their spiegel saying -- their spiegel saying there are russian ground troops in syria, what you makeit? is that something we should believe? >> well, it's hard to argue with some of the video evidence. i think the question is always going to be about the detail and scale. what we can see for sure is a senior russian officer, i think it is entirely possible that he is far from where you would expect russians to be. what exactly he is doing there is not clear from the clip. that is not proof that there are 3000 russians or that russian ground forces are engaged in ground combat operations. with respect to the weapon systems, the russians have been flying bashar al-assad from the very beginning of the conflict, in fact for decades before that, so pointing out that there is a russian weapons system, even if it is a newly delivered system, that is consistent with what we have already seen, so i think it is true to an extent, but my guess is that it would be hard to conceal 3000 russian ground troops actually operating in this fight. i think we would see casualties. >> you don't think that

i'm gabe spiegel .. >> she wants to take your picture.> >> of half of fox 8 madonna's want to say heavy random acts of kindness day, the best selection , do not even have, eat come to think of safety first report has more funny or funnier a mcdonald's here at detroit and 117th..r we will check back in with gabe tiny houses neighborhoods in the and a couple are being dealt in cleveland. >> premiers joins us with more. >> developers are developing to tiny houses in the detroit shoreway neighborhood . here, west 58th and erie avenue . you can see that they are tiny aboutou 580 square feet . typical home is about 2600 eco-friendly and energy-efficient they say that they are part of an experiment to see if there is a demandarre in cleveland in a and it sounds like there is.ve >> i think the market will be really broad . it will appeal to is a louisville first-floor homeme and also be appealing to a younger audience because of the portability aspect. >> they will go up for sale this summer between 125 and $50,000. rat snake in and a major announcement coming involves honoringce pro football h

, join us tomorrow for the triumphant return of chef gabe spiegel, on fridays edition of trending, as he shows us how to make one of the most incredible pieces you'll ever see it is super easy . will and jada smith are known as cutting-edge cutting-edge parents cannot cutting-edge make their own decisions . recently when asked about histtre m hands off parenting skills on british radio company said that we may have gone too far, that it may have been a mistake .a they have two children, and one from a previous marriage, the start of the karate kid is known to have at little fashion sense he dresses like a girl, and recently named the new face of louis vuitton's womenswear . says that his son is an artist and would do anything that he wants it is apparent that can be scary,y, and he does not care what on valentine's day spent more than you do on halloween and mother's day,, you spare no expense for your lover . bankrate.com says the the average cost for valentine's day ise $512, that is $15 with chocolates, diamond earrings during three and $23, dinner for two, $80, roses, champagne to

thomas asking, what is the status of the news person newsperson who was on that noon and 4:00 p.m.. spiegel was coming back, this rod windsor ohio. is at a gas station with my brother-in-law and the clerk said, to my my brother-in-law that you're famous .my they said it is dave spiegel . not trending, the performance of grease live last night ? ratings three hour live broadcast had lovely weather to deal with, quick costume changes, perhaps theyk went to audio flub . pretty much electrifying, julianne hough stole the show playing sandy,t everybody had chills with vanessa hudgens blame pink lady rizzo who said said, there are worse things i can do, just hours earliere before they mike scioscia share the news that her father had passed away . and grammy nominated currently we junction, rocking the world as frenchy, recently musicals have done well, such as the sound of music and the wiz, both did good still ahead, the officer who lost a partner in in the line of duty is one step closer to going which candidates will get the personal part of jumping on the race for the white house.t >> tonight

notice that i am here by myself, we had to glance gabe spiegel leave early today because today is random acts of kindness day 5:00 p.m. he will perform some 5 random acts of kindness,r he will be serving up generosity soh don't miss them being kind today at five . >> cat would break cavity break is cat would break us into the overhead of his pitchers and catchers in arizona for the tribe asasn j.t. has the latest from the newsroom. >> the cavaliers return to the court on thursday amidst lots of rumors surrounding nbath trade deadline, and the indians are getting to go back to work ., cavaliers return to the practice court today preparing for the first came in the second half this season on thursday when the there arestc rumors with the names of shumpert in moscow they can moscow they keep coming up but not certain ofe cavaliers will be big players before the players before the deadline or just change it a bit, or just aofla pat it .a indians pitchers and catchers report today to goodyear arizona, josh tomlin, earned a long-term deal if he came back from shoulder surgery he had two comple

the weather plays a big role in the commute so gabe spiegel keeps an eye on all of itg. >> depends on where you are, some live traffic cams take a quick look at the bottom-line issueue need to slow down, the damage with reduced visibility to believe this is route 8 northbound and east glenville . heading northbound on route 8 get off the east glenwood avenue headed towards akron high school . the roads here are pretty nice . cease to be some snag there on the left side of the road but not slowing it down here at route eight and east cleveland . traffic still pretty heavy in both directionsl, with conditions completely different you can see a squall florida . under a sun visor into 4:00 p.m. for northeast ohio .4: you have to go slowyo lots of people heading downtown tonight for the cavaliers game with tipoff at 8:00 p.m. so be aware of the just take it easy, fox 8, fox 8 the official school closing station with closings and delays on-air, online. the only morning show that starts at 4:00 a.m.,h the i-team has found a state trooper punished for lying in courta to get out of a traffic t

brennan spiegel - ceda-sinai health sm - 1: - 1:18 "now we needo know -- does it improve pain scores, does it impre blood pres?" nats unger patients havbeen most willing to test the system... buit's olderatients who appear to be most amazed bit and could get the biggest ather and tron the 5s. weatheand afon the 5s. teorist stephen bowers is here now with rst alert 5. a weak distuan moved through last night. it dn't bring mu, buthe tiny bitf precipitation it ought with it has ed colorado andas over oklama this morni. we still have some snowy sts the norn motains at willontinue througthis morning, the iue for us wi bemeind as that diurbance moves away. thwinds inhe hills to start our day,ut after 10 am it will begin spreading east of the mountain the wind from pueb aon city south through trinidad can be especially gusty and in t 15-30 h rang the morning drive cos with no weatheissues. temperatures will in the 30s with some lingering clouds. the evenindrive will be breezy on the pueblo end with temperatures cooling through the 50s and 60s. temperatures now are in the 20s. with increasing

ratherat recess. in texas say it appears that scully a tie of natural causes.c in el paso texas casey spiegel, fox news. back are behind bars this morning police say the alleged shooter and his partner suspended last nighth he remains in critical condition this point he was shot while getting out of his car near the scene family says he lost a knife and the bullet remains lost should bring will that mayor today happened to fall on valentine's day several couple decided to tie the night att times square. the first to break single digit temperatures as they took about federal smart and sweetheart set their ideas here the eighth annual valentines part sculpture the of hearts the days events areys not limited to just sit with theto price proposals and some downs. this may not be an argument you want to set on valentine's day dallas man is stop at nothing to prove who is the best fog in the family. when our house there is no debate only data. they measure the space his wife takes aa them pointed a laserd down the middle to prove his point. here's the kicker his wife is pregnant it the soon-to-be p

an annual harvest for hundred campaign shout underway fox 8 gave spiegel taking partrt in the point there hoping they say yes. highly dangers highlighting the why experts say drivers should reallyri just avoid the big b celebration today at fark fit. many of our viewers sent heaven spelled backwards tune in tonight more photos throughout the day and you can see all the welcome to patty harkin we're seeing rain this morning talking with folks out lorraine county out towards vermillion. no freezing rain to the hits will they have theirerno salt trucks outa on first super we had a fatal accident down and akron akron policeow tell me they do have best road closed t if you live in that area yes, you are allowed access this is the inin about perch no issues as you head into town a few more carsw out and about. so the flight impact your morning commute and keep in mindpa to have this wealth this also p.m. scott fors again. you actually learn a lot.o here's what's happening now and what it does is a kind it takes a sample of the atmosphere and we knew get those different youyo get the shape this

after each player goes down, spiegel on the more cinnamon and sugar after all the dough is used up. and if there is any leftover butter, drizzled out on top. it is customary to hide a small plastic baby inside of the cake before baking it, but we think it's more practical and safer to use a gumdrop instead. i will tell you the story behind that in a minute. once it is baked, use is simple to ingredient glaze and decorated with purple, green and gold sugar which represents justice, faith and power. i do hope you will go online and get the recipe for our and whoever gets the baby, or the gumdrop, and their piece of cake, has to make the next king cake or host of the next party. i'm howard in the mr. food test kitchen where today we found a festive way for you to say, oh it's so good. look what you got, you make the next party. gras at several grea (phone ringing) you can't deal with something, by ignoring it. but that's how some presidential candidates seem to be dealing with social security. americans work hard, and pay into it. so our next president needs a real plan (elephant noise

. >> voucher receiving a big nomination here is gabe spiegel withh trending online stories. >> ball drop is very much in the news every hour or so todayen he received a nomination for the nobel peace prize the only official vote came from, according to the french press came from vigorous peace through strength ideology, as a deterrence against isis and how is china, off-line nominators can be prizewinners festers or governments that are not made public, the nominees are supposed to be kept private for about 50 years that are often late, pope francis is a front runner, also fidel castro, vladimir putin and rush limbaugh past.lash officially, he has been nominated. >> ariel winter, and 18-year-old star from modern family is proud to show off her scarst . last summer she had breast reduction r surgery and this past weekend she attended the screen actors guild awards wearing this black dress and you can see her scars under her arm she downsized from a 32 f. two of 34 d. which helped alleviate back problems and she was tired of the getting . said -- a reason i do not make an effort to cover-u

(spiegel) in india, it's called the guru-sishya parampara-- the teacher/student tradition-- where the god. my musical hero was alla rakha who i had listened to on many recordings. i had no money, but i would go and meet him and sleep on the floor of his hotel and take care of errands and help out with driving, cooking, shopping, cleaning, anything. and when he felt like it, he would teach me. these lessons were not formal. he never wrote anything down for me. in fact, i never sat in front of him with drums. he only would recite compositions to me, and i was expected to remember them and, at a later time, write them down. (das gupta) in our instrumental music, you have to gather the ability or acquire the ability of singing whatever you are playing. the teacher can say to you, "here's a theme, "gi-ni-da, da-ga-da-da, da-ga-da, kae-na-ga-da, da-ga-na-da, di-ni-di-ni-da." and then you recite back to him, gi-ni-da, da-ga-da-da, da-ga-da, kae-na-ga-da, da-ga-na-da, di-ni-di-ni-da. ♪ ah-ma-nei-za, ma-ma-nei-za, ♪ ♪ nei-pa-ba-lama-lama- ba-lama-nei-za. ♪ you have to reproduce. [plays same pi

. >> those heartrending online topics tonight with gabe spiegel . they talk about facebook, it is untrendy, before facebook, what were we doing before that ? basically were on twitter and they said that need binoculars to stock your ex, and some said, i got more sleepai. >> to see what you have to say . he says that i feel that before facebook there was more interaction and education . before facebook, i never had to my school ever again . before facebook, i had a much tougher time to find out what my ex was up with . i was unaware of my dog groomers political views . but facebook i assumed everybody knew the difference between a bear, blair, they're in there . before myspace we would do blogs justld there was some micro-blogging just a fantasy football wasin big before facebook . you know anybody with a rpf, f they have that angry what such as kanye west . it stands for the resting the face . scientists discovered that people with these solid faces like kanye west or the claim, that their emotions of content was significantly higher, does not mean

remember geauga lake looking like this the new tour of the former northeast ohio we had our own gabe spiegel doing at a mcdonald's drive-through later on in sports the legendary jimmy browns will be frozen in time here about a statue honoring the the republican candidates try to put their best foot forward ahead of the south carolina primary they host a town hall meeting featuring ben carson marco rubio and ted crews person was asked about the controversy surrounding the supreme court he of his presidency humid move forward when repair took the stage he targeted cruise with some harsh words. i said he's been lying if you say something that isn't true there's no other word for it. what is about your record jeff declared out because if you don't the people say it must be true you didn't dispute it. he referred to him as donald trump with a smile they will take part in the second townhall tomorrow. apple is challenging a charges order to to help the fbi unlocking iphone apple ceo says that order to unlock it could threaten the security of millions of iphone the white house doesn't see it that w

. >> fundraiser port clinton is media as gabe spiegel is here with trendy. wi great people are holding a fundraiser that is getting some buzz online for $10 you could winld ar-15 it's not automatic rifle, and war $1,000 cash and port clinton . raffle is on the way on the face of page brought to you by the port clinton announced on april 15 some people there are upset, the air fatigue, not an assault rifle pr stands for parmalat rifle they are regulated in six states not ohiore the air 15 is legal as is the best way to raise funds for chairman of the port clinton committeesese and port clinton policen tell us tell us that lester the ruffled off to guns, they have not received complaints the winner has to be 18 or older and passedin fbi background check and now the question is is this the best way to go about this and apparently it is they have no problem the last couple years . or they could select the cash. they have not had any complaints , that some people who complained and said that we should do the story because of lots of school shootings th . the argument comes up that come into

coming to sports illustrated in the googles driverless car gets the big green light here ist gabe spiegel with trending. those driverless cars could be states at less than four years,y ntsb has agreed with google but basic computers can control cars and be be considered a driver of the vehicle, a redefinition of drivero is a big deal, google still hasn't long has a long road ahead before they can have with mr. petals come pedals, the only question isw right at at the back will be enough to stop the car is still being being debated and likely not going to be allowedd, google hopes to sell those cars commercially by 2020 .e the hottest color for the upcoming swimsuit season is silver, for all says that throughout all of your previous mutual definitions of sexy . this has comes in all shapes h sizes and ages come . swimsuits were all is running an ad in the next sports illustrated featuring thish 56 real bombshell , nicole griffin, also ashley graham and nigerian model , they say, the concession with youth is a disease, they say that the campaign proves that our melting are melting pot socie

gabe spiegel here with more on what's trending things backck research shows that without the smartphone, more of us cannot rememberer family and phone numbers birthdays or addresses and forget about directions or math problems, gps and calculators have is covered . they say thatemem learning skills peak beforein the age of 33 and then . and then a steady decline , if you want to memorize something, repetition works every time according to the try some brain games . if i sound like a comical subject but it is serious, for those of you who have not given up on your new year's resolution to get back in shape,e they sure that she wear the correct underpants . you need the proper items for the gym .e this is from the doctors from the huffington >> lee ware those bonds or silky and satin non- breathable materials allowing moisture to get trapped in areas increasing risk ofofu infections they say, where something more breathable like cotton, the style is also important, bonds can help to spread e. coli were easier . older underwear with exposed plastic . those can cause rashes .ho . it's okay

like you pull more weight than your husband doing housework, that's because that your hair isis gabe spiegel with trending. >> bishops shows that women do about seven more hours of because of your husband . social behavior researchers at the university of michigan confirming the numbersea seven more hours a week for the lives of you save your your husbands an hour a week, then still tend to work more outside the home, when kids are involved, the work really multiplies, 28 hours a weekk cleaning cooking and washing, young single women do the least amount about 12 hours a week,wo men do more work in 1976 women did 26 hours compared two nasa these 5 cents if you things if you want to get a new job, this is trend all over twitter . this is a steppingstone . is this year supervisors job open, and was this your chair and i probably shouldn't say this and also cannot start on monday, google my name . or, pants are optional has been nice for the links in the area are still freezing, we catch up with a couple of lucky dogs were rescuedou from the link firefighters rescue two dogs after they fell into

. >> especially about our back page of manning and here is gabe spiegel with trending topics. talk is about his whether or not he wash being paid to say what heg said after the game last night . >> clearly, peyton manning is very thirsty for some budweiser and he's the highest-paid quarter back in the latee new york, gatorade, directv, nike and now maybe budweiser is also paying him . for the record, budweiser did not pay peyton manning to mention budweiser tonight we were surprised and delighted that he did. >> according to a public relations representative for budweiser . a business reporter for espn who said, why did he mention bud dale county owns a piece of two anheuser-busch distributors. >> that's a fact . so is this a sleazy move ?? >> i think that he's a classy guy and i don't believe in. some say that he's walked off into retirement and wants towa phone the runway with endorsement. he is a brilliant football mind and maybe he could come here and with some the connection with haslam. i thought that thought that mention budweiser. >> i thought that it was as well ,a ev

. >> gabe spiegel answer was is here with some of your comments is that i do not have a scientific poll but if you read on social media thatat 9 percent of the audience as it is time for him to go he's been given chance after chance .' remember the old times, rehab and domestic issues and promising to not embarrass himself or the tape again and again and here is what people say, this was from facebook, he says -- he's guilty of nothing given the chance hear. >> says to dump him for the team will once again be the laughingstock of the novell. >> michael says -- he is a loser , sent him packing already .t here's an john manziel is 23, they owe him $8 million guaranteed for a four-year deal, this was just two years ago, retracted them about number 23 with high hopes lot of people but people were still optimistic about him .e i think some more overly excited, but the thing is hi that he is 23 and he does have a canon of art and some talk that he might get traded to the ramsm maybe he will be picked up in dallas,, but at this stage i think most of people here say thatbag it has been fun but

harvest for hunger campaign started this morning at the food bank, f gabe spiegel was there to take part in the supermarket challenge .spth more people need l help with daily meals than ever before andth nearly every suburb, when you'ree business asking to give, so please give so many people depend on it,so. variant for a wild ride. >> there will be a miss coming tomorrow and thursday,, started off looking out the storm is gaining strength and coming this direction starting tonight after midnight, tomorrow morning, it willit be here with with rainfall that at some point .wi the call tuesday is march 1 with springtime beginning next tuesday .i backup 30s, 40s and 50s across the state . threw for hopkins and akron-canton nearing 50 dover/new philly had low 50s . at the lecture it was much colder .le chargers increasing johnson, 56 ahead of the low of moisture to work with . we have winter storm warnings to the north and west including much of michiganl they will be cold enough to support snow severe weather has been an issue in louisiana, alabama, mississippi and theue florida panhandle ha

pay close attention to the battle between fbi and apple, those trending topics tonight here is gabe spiegel tick-tock apple versus fbi, and even the even the top executives at thee mobile world congress in barcelona spain will not discuss the privacy versus security debatebain but here in trending we will because there is no topic that is off-limits a judge orderingt apple to unlock the cell phone, iphone 5-c used byce churches in the december san bernardino shootings where 14 were murdered,sh apple ceo tim cook told abc news that would be the equivalent of cancer. the fbi could try to guess the passcode that can't wrong guesses on the cell phone wouldpa wipe everything from it, the government wants apple to create bypass the passcode and gain access and intelligence for the one-time request, apple has receivedce 15 requests over the past five months to do the same thing , apple says that they will fight this, if the government forces us to do this thenve it what will they force us to do next richard wareat the next court showdown will be march 22 . in the past our apple responded say that

sot: d brennan spiegel - ceda-sinai health system :28 - :33 "this is aincredible opportunity to escape the four wallof the hospita" patients are carried awato different rlds... likeceland or the ocn. researchers have tested the virtual reality syst with about 70 pple far. ny say it's helping lieve stress and anxiety. sot: kathy freund - patient - :45 - :4 his was like the greatest diversion that i could have ever had." "ahhoh gosh!! mott children's hospit at the unersity of michigan. docts there ve also us virtual reality -- in this case -- turning wheelchairs into rollercoasters! 'm on of the world!!" thcersinai team thinks virtual reity could also be useful for women enduring long labors... and those havi to wait for painful predures. sot: dr. brennan spl - cedars-sinai health system - 1:13 - 18 "now we need to knowdoest improve pain scos,s it impre oopresre?" nats yoger patients have been most willing to te system... buit older patients who appe to be most amazed by it and could get the biggest benefit. erika edwas, nbc news. in this morning's health watch... having physically deman

brennan spiegel - cedars-sinai health system - :28 - :33) "this is an incredible opportunity to escape the four walls of the hospital." patients are carried away to different worlds... like iceland or the ocean. researchers have tested the virtual reality system with about 70 people so far. many say it's helping relieve stress and anxiety. (sot: kathy freund - patient - :45 - :48) "this was like the greatest diversion that i could have ever had." "ahhh oh gosh!! that feeling.. illustrated perfectly... by a young boy at c.s. mott children's hospital at the university of michigan. doctors there have also used virtual reality -- in this case rollercoaste rs! "i'm on top of the world!!" the cedars-sinai team thinks virtual reality could also be useful for women enduring long labors... . d those having to wait for painful procedures. (sot: dr. brennan spiegel - cedars-sinai health system - 1:13 - 1:18) "now we need to know -- ds it improve pain scores, does it improve blood pressure?" (nats) younger patients have been most willing to test the system... but it's older patients who appear to

it may just brush the mountains of north carolina with an isolated spiegel this morning, and that will be get. mostly sunny for the upstate. greenville currently at 51. let's see what the expected high will be today. 68 for the afternoon. asheville at 48 will climb to 61 or 62. really nice weather to start the week. again, breezes at 10-15 in the upstate. tomorrow we will see a 30% to that will increase to 60% or 70% of the area tuesday night into wednesday. high temperatures will cool down into the upper 40's, upper 50's for wednesday and the next couple days. friday chance of showers and saturday looks to be sunny. 56 in the afternoon. sunday will get up to 63. will see a little drop in the temperatures this week and rebounding by the end of the week. geoff: thank you. space-x continues to try to help millions get internet and phone no announcer: you're watching live, local, breaking news with geoff hart, allyson powell, and weather with meteorologist dale gilbert. this is wyff news 4 today in high definition. geoff: we are bringing you a live look right now from carolina. county. a

germany's der spiegel says, weapon against europe, argues by aiding assad and attacking its own people, russia is funneling millions into europe weakening european countries and exacerbating societal conditions. acting in the knowledge that compassion is one of the most extreme. tensions between russia and turkey that are ready to explode, how proassad iran and antiassad saudi arabia, are entering their own cold war and how russian vice president dimitri medvedev, all sides must think closely about their next moves. >>> india's supreme court has intervened in the bail hearing of a university student who faces charges of sedition. demanding an investigation into why police didn't take charge after violence and scuffles broke out, a hearing was supposed to be held andy indian slogans were used. , in iran, women are using smartphones to out-smart the morality police. an app helps women. al jazeera's ines ferre reports. >> in this youtube video a woman avoids arrest. to enforce the islamic female dress code. a new app is aimed at helping citizens avoid confrontations like that and get away

. >> germany's der spiegel says, putin's, says the lack of strategy from europe and the u.s. is letting putin achieve his goals of increasing russian influence in the middle east and eastern europe. rapprochement and friendship only embolden putin's aggression. >>> left turn maybe coming to an end, noting elections in venezuela, argentina and bolivia have all swung to the right. long been distinct from the global north but it argues that economic pressures and globalization are pushing south american countries. gop primary showing donald trump winning thing jackpot on the presidential casino' casino's mo one shot. >>> appeals committee cut blatter and platini's suspension from eight to six years. with respect to a $2 million payment to plat-ini. they say they will appeal to the court of arbitration for sport. this week fifa will elect a new president to replace blatter. >>> focusing on a new material that could revolutionize the cell phones of the future. as tarek bazley reports, graphite. >> 200 times stronger than steel but almost invisible to the eye. graphine conducts ele

donald finds it hard to lose and he finds it difficult for him but at the end of the day the iowa spiegeleople spoke. trish: this is a reaction to donald trump saying he wants to recount in iowa. >> i know the one situation is being investigated by authorities in iowa. the voter violation forum and that is under serious investigation but i think they should throw him out of iowa because i don't think what he did is she disagrees. it is in disgrace to the alleged durrell process. trish: let's start with blake byrne in exeter, new hampshire. he sought from speak, our residents feeling this marco momentum? is this catching on, are you hearing anecdotally what we are seeing? >> right down the street i drove by earlier today. a lot of students are at this donald trump speech today at the old town hall. he is pulling up for the tracking poll here but trump was inert in exeter at the old town hall, a place that abraham lincoln once spoke. donald trump did not get into the back and forth between him and ted cruz, marco rubio, didn't talk about it at all, he brought jeb bush but donald trump had a

think that has become practice and what it says about the way people are thinking about trade and spiegelittle bit more about your concerns about how this would impact, you mentioned the difference between tpp and naf nafta, whether this corrects the problems democrats have long had with this stuff. >> we made progress when there was a change from bush to president obama. under president bush we did put together the may 10th agreement. it wasn't exactly an agreement. it was put together by house democrats and it was accepted by the bush administration assuming that that might lead to acceptance of panama, colombia, korea. that did happen. i sat down and began to renegotiate at the panamanian embassy taken may 10th and the panamanian parliament speaker became someone who had killed a marine. so there was progress when we changed from clinton/bush to president obama in terms of renegotiating those agreements. sometimes it works for the better if a republican became president, i think much of what we have done they would try to wash away. that our efforts and new trade policy they would try

glass spiegel, technically it was not repealed.f things.w a lot allowed commercial and investment banking to merge. bank toit -- it allows own traveling. anybody have their car insurance through their bank? the theory did not work out. the company split. exception is usda which operates on a different business model. banking and insurance have not mixed. it is an area where a lot of people scratch their heads. it was a big driving force with allowing that activity. the question you ask yourself is , what are the companies and the names you think about the financial crisis, fannie, freddie, aig, countrywide, indymac, lean in, bear insurance. none of them could have existed doing all the businesses they did under glass-steagall. that did not change any of their corporation structure. i think what my friend is getting at, and absence of the four is the idea that our grandparents, in that generation in the 30's who lived through financial crisis coupled what we did put in a series of tough regulations that kind of hemmed in the practic