allison stanger's new book is called "whistleblowers." tom mueller wrote "crisis of conscience." whistle-blower in an age of fraud. allison, let me start out with you. you claim that whistleblowing is as old as the public. the first weiss weiss protection law, which was >> the world's first was passed in congress in 1778. that was before the ratification of the constitution, and it was passed because of a man by the name of essex hopkins. hopkins was chief of the navy, and he was removed from office for abusing his office for private gain. he was taking the u.s. navy other places, not the places general washington wanted him to engage the british, and instead of going to chesapeake bay, he would go, for example, to the bahamas, and this served his commercial interests, but it certainly didn't serve the war effort and it certainly didn't serve the cause of the newly united states. so it was certainly about the abuse of power and corruption in public servants. >> tom, you point out that these whistleblowers are often acting in circumstances

well stanger breaks it it's been put on the back burner in the u.k. with a snap at general election set for next month now stealing the focus and is the 1st time the country will head to the polls in december since 1923 when the seasonal chill taking grip there's concern the weather might impact voting. 'd it's about common sense and putting safety 1st look out for black ice look out for each other in times of low body temperatures if your friend is starting to look it's maybe time to head home those . few women add to the divorce leaving only the die hard men complaining during the evening risks perpetuating a culture imported text when men build professional relationships with one another and women are left at the impact a few hours of daylight may seem like a minor concern but the news comes at a time when the political discourse wants women is already talked. well british people certainly do like talking about the weather that's your news update on a lot could not be back here with a roundup of the headlines in about 30 minutes time. i don't want

. >> allison stanger, tom mueller, happy to have you on. >> nice to be here, fareed. >> thank you, fareed do you get when you mix right wing populism with left wing communists? i'll tell you about this odd recipe when we come back. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one. for small prices, you can build big dreams, spend less, get way more. shop everything home at wayfair.com >>> now for the "what in the world" segment. if you're trying to understand the right, in poland the law and justice party just won a second term. law and justice, or beast, as it's known in poland, has all the hallmarks of the new right. they attack liberal values, democratic institutions, they claim to be speaking for ordinary polls. but on the economy, the right wing piece is embracing the left. the biggest policy triumph for its government's last term was the family 500-plus program. it gives families cash handouts of about $130 per child per month regardless of income. the atlantic compared it to a scheme similar to the one

thank you everyone for allowing me to be here and thank you to my sister, president stanger, everyonee that's here. north benson university the nobel prize is like awesome. congratulations. that's terrific. when my sister, again, kim, thank you for the introduction. for all those who have siblings, brothers or sisters, how many? if they said they were going to introduce you at a thing like this and you thought about all the things you did to them when you were a kid it would probably make you pretty nervous. some of the things i did to my poor sister was terrible. i remember one time, she always told me she would get me back for, and she hasn't yet. i thought this was going to be it. there's two things i did to her that were really like all of you brothers here he was kind of understand this. she was making fun of me one day we had a cottage on page like and she wanted to go water skiing but she had been really busting me, and being like a little sister who could be a pain in the neck. i said i will take you waterskiing. sure. so she got waterskiing and we used to go around the lake t

author allison stanger.ing on. >> i know this will shock people who read your book, but republicans who are actually champions of whistleblowers, as kurt tells us regularly because he was on the committee, when they were investigating fast and furious and benghazi. they encouraged the protection of whistleblowers. why is that always a good idea? >> it's a good idea because whistle blowing is really an american tradition. the united states passed the world's first whistleblower protection law in 1778, that's before the ratification of the constitution, which is the reason why you see -- you saw both democrats and republicans in the senate unanimously vote to turn the whistleblower complaint over to congress. it's not a partisan issue. it's an american issue. and i think it's really interesting when you brought up benghazi. there was a cia whistleblower who launched that investigation. and we don't even think of whistleblowers as being associated with that, that's because members of congress at the time did no