what they're talking about there is the prospect of meeting up with steve bannon. ime he was no longer in the white house. he was the editor in chief of breitbart news. bannon and breitbart were huge boosters of the candidacy in alabama for roy moore. they helped them beat luther strange in the republican primary. then when it came to the general election and moore is facing all of these accusations, this is the story laid out tonight in "the washington post." leigh corfman, she went public with her story in early november. she turned to eddy sexton the childhood friend. to be her lawyer. to help her manage the media scrutiny that was sure to follow. a couple days after the story became public, eddy sexton's long-time friend, the guy we heard him talking to on the phone, a roy moore supporter. he got in touch with eddy and asked him to meet up. he brought along his business partner. davey mentioned he knew steve bannon. the executive wanted to talk about whether his lawyer eddy sexton would say publicly he didn't believe the accusations from leigh corfman. sexton sa

that i've had with steve bannon and with roger stone? y does bob mueller need to see my e-mails when i send roger and steve clips and we talk about how much we hate people? >> sam, you were on the campaign early on. you were there when donald trump was deciding to announce he wanted to run for president. >> donald trump did not collude with the russians! it is the biggest joke, to ever think donald trump colluded with the russians. i can tell you, donald trump, when he was involved in conservative politics, did not halt his business, okay? donald trump did not want to attack hillary clinton early on in the campaign. he only wanted to attack jeb bush, because it wasn't going to be -- it wasn't going to be good for him, and had he not won the primary, he was probably going to endorse hillary clinton. >> sam, you were on this campaign -- >> i am not going to go over my e-mails, i'm not going to spend 80 hours because a bunch of fbi agents and a bunch of u.s. attorneys want me to -- to harass me. and you know, here's the thing. they've gone o

what happened is that the ivanka trump and jared kushner were troubled by steve bannon. they were not happy with him and wanted to push them out reportedly. bannon that priebus and formed a kind of alliance. i think they liked each other and i think they worked reasonably well together. host: what about the structure that was set up with steve bannon in that position and reince priebus as chief of staff? guest: it was really unworkable and it was really a kind of troika were maybe a three headed beast. you had reince priebus as chief of staff in title but not the authority really. you had steve bannon as the particle strategist and then jared kushner, who was family. authority was really divided among three of them. one of the things i learned from my book is that every president finds out often the hard way that you cannot govern effectively without empowering a chief of staff as first among equals to execute your agenda and most important to tell you what you don't want to hear. donald trump failed to do that during the first six months and he paid the price. history is

i don't specifically know what steve bannon's reaction was. i do know that bannon felt at that moment that it was probably the last row for reince priebus. that is what he told me. would argue priebus there was no way to really see mccain's thumbs down coming ahead of time and that that was a surprise. it was a kind of tipping point according to bannon for donald trump, losing his confidence in priebus. look, a white house chief of staff has to be able to deliver on capitol hill. you have to be able to count votes. jim baker under ronald reagan had something called the legislative strategy group. he had a small group of really smart, savvy operators who could count votes and they never went out there unless they knew they could deliver. the trouble with this white house is that it has just been broken. one of the things it has not been able to do is count votes on capitol hill. host: neil and silver spring, maryland, democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. i like to guess the comment on the role of stephen miller in this. how does he re

let's think about steve bannon and cambridge analytica. has been the case throughout this russia story for the last year basically, that there's been a presumption that essentially bannon uniquely among people who were at the uppermost levels of donald trump's presidency and his campaign, that bannon was somehow clean on the question of russia. does this, the cambridge analytica story, start to put steve bannon right in the middle of the data -- the data story and then eventually the russia story? >> it places bannon at the very beginning of the entire story. i mean, it's almost as if bannon and the mercers and alexander knicks got together to create a model for exactly the kind of campaign they wanted to run, not only in the midterms in 2014, but also in 2016 and the presidential election. i mean, bannon had this plan for information warfare. he wanted to create his populist power base and he was going to do it with the help of cambridge analytica. he, then, helped them develop this massive platform and we can dee batd whether or not it w

it's interesting about steve bannon, because all along steve bannon has said i came onto the campaign after the convention. i had nothing to do with the trump tower meeting, nothing do with the platform change and ukraine. and that may very well be true, but it is very interesting that there's some worry about the communications of steve bannon and sam nunberg. and we also know mueller has a lot of these communications. sam told you very plainly, mueller already has, based on the charts and the information he had, mueller's already got a lot. it seems like a pr campaign to protect roger stone. mueller can certainly get sam nunberg's communications even if nunberg defies the subpoena. he has a way to get it. >> has a way to get it. one of the fascinating parts of this, for viewers who watch and say okay, a part of this seems very elaborate or spectacle, we are learning very important new things about the timeline, about who is being targeted, and i don't mean targeted as a criminal target, but who is being looked at, those ten names, and then him saying who he's in touch with and then

jake, i communicated with roger stone and steve bannon 15 times a day. so i have to spend 80 hours going over e-mails? >> well, i agree that it seems like a lot of time. but it is law enforcement telling you that you have to do it. that's what a subpoena is. are you actually will to go to jail for this? >> i'm not cooperating. arrest me. >> you're not cooperating. arrest you. >> yes. you're going to arrest me, arrest me. do you know what? i'm not a fan of donald trump, jake. >> i know, you had a big falling out. >> i'm not a fan of his. when they start asking for stuff like this, trump is right. it is a witch hunt. >> when you did meet with the members of the special prosecutor's team and you said they acted very professionally -- >> they acted professionally. and i was very impressed. >> you were very impressed. what were they asking you about? >> they asked about everything in terms of my relationship with trump, in terms of my -- they even -- you know, my father worked for trump in the 1980s, if you read art of the deal. trump mentions it. they asked

cambridge analytica was run with the help of steve bannon. campaign ceo who went on to become chief white house strategist. and whistle-blower christopher wylie says trump campaign manager corey lewandowski was meeting with cambridge analytica even before trump announced his candidacy. so all of this is worth keeping in mind as you hear what whistle-blower christopher wylie says was happening at cambridge analytica. watch this. joining me now, christopher wylie, a former research director from cambridge analytica who blew the whistle on the firm. thank you so much for joining us. are you doing okay in. >> thanks for having me. it's been a long day, but i'm okay. >> you describe a psychological warfare weapon, something you say steve bannon wanted, the ability to play with the psychology of an entire country. how did that work? talk to us about that. >> yeah. so steve came to sel because he believes in something called the breitbart doctrine, which is that in order to change politics, you first have to change culture because politics is downst

something you say steve bannon wanted. the ability to play with the psychology of an entire country. how did that work? talk to us about that. >> yeah. so steve came to scl because he believes in something called the breitbart doctrine. in order to change politics you first have to change culture because politics is down stream from culture. and in order to fight a culture war, you need an arsenal of information weapons. and who better to go to than a company like scl which is a military contractor based in the uk to help set up those information weapons. and so what we worked on at scl and later at cambridge analytica is data harvesting programs where we pull data from users of apps and all the friend networks and run that data through algorithms that can profile the psychological attributes so we would know what information we need to feed to online platforms o to exploitmental vulnerabilities that are algorithms showed they had. >> this goes beyond just sort of programming advertisement toward a certain group. because y

these are the things that steve bannon truly believes.ea that he would suggest to anyone that they wear the phrase "racist" as a badge of honor just tells you the way steve bannon thinks. i mean he is an you wouldn't ma nationalist. ultra nationalist and encouraging that kind of thing. he brought it to the white house and sadly some of that has effected this president to one extent or another. this is a dangerous kind of thing to hear. certainly it is not respective of the values of the manner people and i hope it is rejected. >> how much of that remains in congress of what steve bannon was promulgating? >> there is some it there. we see it not so much in the coarse language that steve bannon uses. but actions speak far louder than words. the fact that we have an inability now to deal with the -- some of the issues we have around immigration. the fact that we see members of congress unwilling to do the most simple things to protect young people from being deported. these nativists, protectionist sort of steps that we hear from steve banno

the mercers donated $2 million to a trump super pac before recommending that the campaign hire steve bannonn and cambridge allegedly bringing the information worked up from harvested facebook data. the company cambridge denies the facebook data was use in the services provided to the trump campaign. joining me now is "washington post" investigative reporter michael krennish. thank you for joining me. it's a hard one to get your head around, but tell me about the reports that steve bannon was related to or oversaw the harvesting of this facebook data. >> well, sure, good morning. back in 2013, they started this company cambridge analytica where they met in manhattan. we discussed in the post this morning with my colleagues from london, where steve bannon and the mercers, mr. wiley, the so-called whistleblower, there was a discussion how to understand american voters and persuade american voters. at that time there was no donald trump campaign, but they started testing themes like "drain the swamp" and "build a wall" that became donald trump's message. in the story, it is interesting to see h

we have more details. >> reporter: cambridge analytica was born out of steve bannon's alt-right vision god, what have we -- >> reporter: he had already produced propaganda-inspired films, had run the ultraconservative breitbart news. in 2014 he was looking for yet another tool in his arsenal, and he found it by creating cambridge analytica. >> this was steve bannon's baby. >> reporter: former cambridge analytica employee christopher wiley says from his first meeting with bannon, it was clear the goal not to push a single campaign or candidate but to fundamentally change america. >> he sees this as warfare. he is going to use as aggressive techniques as he can get away with. >> reporter: do you realize what you're saying? you're talking about warfare on the american citizenry. >> this is steve bannon and robert mercy using a foreign military contractor to use some of the same techniques that the militaries use to fight isis on the american electorate. that's what they wanted, and that's what they got. >> reporter: cambridge analytica is a subsidiary of the british sel group. for 25 year

did steve bannon participate in your book? >> absolutely. i met bannon back in 2011 when no one had ever heard of him and i was a political writer for the atlantic at the time. i just come back from alaska and done a big profile of sarah palin and bannon, who at the time was a conservative film occur, call me up and said i read your article and like you to come see my film that like to meet you and bannon and i met in 2011 with no difference in the c steven we see today. disheveled figure in the military jacket with these national ideas it and have representation in american politics. he has since become the force that's given rise not just to the tea party but to donald trump. >> host: the mercer family. are they still with donald trump? >> guest: i think the mercer family are still with donald trump. i have a chapter about the mercer's in devil's bargain in essentially they were the merchant bankers who wanted steve bannon in various projects in these nonprofit foundations and the book clinton cash which was instrumental in tearing down hil

what is the potency of a steve bannon run like we just saw there? what is the value that he offers now to this conversation? >> right now, not that much. concerning the fact that he's been basically expelled from the white house, the trump circle, breitbart. unless you starts his own media company which he has talked about doing and even buying "newsweek." right now his relevancy is next to none. we've seen co-organizers of the women's march and several democrats and their connections to nation of islam leader louis farrakhan and his racist anti-semitic views. we have to make sure there is a line of consistency when we see particular individuals who are espousing racist and extremist views, we have to be on our toes and denounce them. >> you know -- >> that's an important point. we should have that conversation. >> go ahead. >> i don't know that any president has invited louis farrakhan into the white house to be his chief strategist. but i hear your point. >> barack obama was pikctured with him in 2005 when he was senator and that resurfaced in the

analytica and how they came to work for trump's campaign. >> they came together because of one man, steve bannon, and what former colleagues say is that bannon believed he was fighting a culture war. cambridge analytica was born out of steve bannon's alt-right vision for america. he had already produced propaganda inspired films hflt run the ultra conservative breitbart news. in 2014, he was looking for yet another tool in his arsenal and he found it by creating cambridge analytica. >> this was steve bannon's baby. >> reporter: the former cambridge analytica said from his first meeting with bannon, it was clear, the goal. not to push a single campaign or candidate but to fundamentally change americans. >> he sees this as warfare. he will use as aggressive techniques as he can get away with. >> do you realize what you're saying? you're talking about warfare on the american citizens. >> this is steve bannon and robert mercer using a former military contractor to use some of the same techniques that the military uses to fight isis on the american electorate. that's what they wanted and that's what

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and he found it by creating cambridge analytica. >> this was steve bannon's baby. >> reporter: this formermployee says from his first meeting with bannon, it was clear the goal. not to push a single campaign or candidate, but to fundamentally change america. >> he sees this as warfare, so he is going to use as aggressive techniques as he can get away with. >> you are talking about warfare on the american citizenry. >> this is steve bannon and robert mercer using a foreign military contractor to use some of the same techniques that the militaries use to fight isis on the american electorate. that's what they wanted. and that's what they got. >> reporter: cambridge analytica is a subsidiary of the british scl group. for 25 years the military contractor has worked with 60 countries including british and american governments helping battle crime, drugs, terrorists by changing the opinions of foreign populations. >> scl sales pitch essentially was look, we go into foreign countries and we use our tools, our psycho graphic profiling to manipulate public opinion. ultimately that is what bannon wa

former trump strtrategist steve bannon made a surprise appearance at the far right national conference in france this weekend. attendees that they should wear allegations of racism against them as a badge of honor. the french far right hold similar views on immigration, trade, the eu, and russia. marine le pen said she wants to rebrand the national front party , changing it to the national right party. pen herself is calllled a psychological red flag. >> this weekend, marine le pen rebranded the national front. >> i propose the national front become the national rally. partyporters to former royalty. >> i think it is good. >> is this simply to change the national front name? i am hesitant. >> in her closing speech, marine a pen treaded a line between more -- party and a >> you know it is a psychological red flag for many people. >> this is the latest push for the makeover for the party, after they were sound and loss to emmanuel macron in last year's election. she also revoked her father's honorary title of president for life and barred him from the congress. since taking over, marine

they wanted every e-mail i had with roger stone and with steve bannon. why should i hand them e-mails from november 1st, 2015? i was thinking about this today, katie, i was preparing it. should i spend 50 hours going over all my e-mails with roger and with steve bannon? and then they wanted e-mails that hi with hope hicks, with corey lewandowski. are you giving me a break? it's ridiculous. >> what sam nunberg was talking about was a request within that subpoena seeking all documents involving the president and a host of his closest advisers. nbc news has on it and a copy of the subpoena and it does ask for all e-mails, text messages, phone logs that pertain to ten key figures in the trump campaign and the white house. from the president and aides like hope hicks, paul manafort to long time gop operative and trump friend roger stone, who nunberg describes as a mentor. just a few hours ago, nunberg appeared again on this network and explained for the real reasons for defying the command to appear before a grand jury. >> i've talked to them, i've spent mone

by that point steve bannon is the vice president of cambridge analytica. so certainly, you know, he is a presence within the new entity, the new u.s. entity, cambridge analytica, at the time that wylie is discussing. >> and finally there's a remarkable moment of alexander nix talking about his appearance before the house intelligence committee. and it's the first time we've seen this, a kind of unguarded report back from someone who got called before that committee about the different treatment they got from republicans and democrats. take a listen. >> i went to speak to them and the republicans ask three questions. five minutes, done. democrats asked two hours of questions. >> ait was voluntary and i did because i'm trying to help. we have no secrets. >> correct. >> they're politicians, they're not technical. they don't understand how it works. they don't understand because the candidate is never involved. he's told what to do by the campaign team. >> so the candidate is the puppet? >> of course. >> so the candidate is the puppet, but i thought that was a

with steve bannon's refusal to answer some of the questions. but, you know, congressman stewart was saying essentially there was no need to subpoena people. some people came back for a second interview, and we got the answers we needed. is that true? >> and i respect my colleague congressman stewart, but i wholeheartedly disagree. this was a take their word for it investigation that simply went through the motions. this was like bringing in a suspect that you suspect of arson or something else, asking them, did you start the fire? they say, i didn't start any fire. and you say, oh, great. go ahead and go home. that's what this was. >> the other thing that congressman stewart says is that the u.s. intelligence assessment from the cia, fbi, and the dni, that russian interference in the election was an effort from putin to help trump win the election is just flat out wrong. congressman stewart says i went to cia. i read the raw intelligence, and the cia just got it wrong. what did they know that the u.s. intelligence community apparently doesn't?

of staff and reince priebus said you need to be number one what was his relationship light with steve bannon? interestingly they got along pretty well. there are always factions is the white house this was like game of thrones. but i think what happened is jared ivanka were not happy with him wanting to push him out and bannon and reince priebus formed an alliance i think they like each other and act actually worked reasonably well to gather. >> what about that structure with steve bannon in that position with reince priebus as chief of staff? >> it was unworkable maybe that three headed beast with reince priebus chief of staff title but not the authority and then defendant as a political strategist then you have jared kushner who was family so it was divided among the three of them. one of the things i learned from my book that every president learns the hardware you cannot govern effectively without empowering a chief of staff first among equals to execute your agenda and tell you what you don't want to hear. donaldng f trump failed to do tt during the first six months and he paid thete pr

steve bannon raised it with rnc chairman reince priebus. how was it that trump was there and happened to call on her? trump's response was odd, bannon thought, that trump had a fully developed answer. trump's own campaign was weirded out by that interaction. that's in "russian roulette", which comes out at midnight. there's a lot more. not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. and no surgery. results and patient experience may vary. some rare side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort and swelling. ask your doctor if coolsculpting is right for you and visit coolsculpting.com today... for your chance to win a free treatment. minute cou>> tech: at safelite s we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replac

data from as many as 50 million facebook users at the direction of former trump campaign adviser steve bannonhis. >> steve wanted weapons for his culture war. that's what he wanted. we offered him a way to accomplish what he wanted to do which was change the culture of america. >> wiley's claims have been refuted. facebook has suspended cambridge analytical for violating privacy policies and denies there was any kind of data breach. my panel is back with me. joy, i'll start with you on this. those are pretty strong words from wily says weapons for his culture war referring to steve bannon. >> this is definitely of concern, particularly over the last year and a half and certainly in smaller communities this is an issue of the privacy and data we're sharing across our networks, how much of it is being used not only for political gain but also big corporations in general, how they're able to take this data and that you are clicking a button because there's this long list of things you're supposed to read and agree to. so there's what people are doing with data that they have a legal -- a legal w

bigger world view from steve bannon and nationalists there. where does it go now? >> first of all, i was confused by that statement, it's not like the freedom caucus and the right wing conservatives are considered anti-globalist. >> good point. >> anyway, that aside, i think they worked closely on tax reform. i think cohn will view his legacy as passing the president's tax agenda. i think when people look back on his work in the white house, that will compete with one thing that i think is more important, and that is, you cannot miss the fact that he is resigning in the wake of a loss on tariffs. tariffs is a very important economic issue, a lot of reasons to be against tariffs. but this is the same person who was about to resign after the president's comments in the wake of charlottesville, wrote a resignation letter reportedly, and decided not to go ahead with it. i think the question is, how could you be so worked up about a tariff issue that you resign, and yet when the president said what he said about charlottesville, it pricked your con

you listened to the speech by steve bannon. did the crowd actually like bannon? >> they loved it, cyril, they loved his message. their side, because they believe they have a lot in common, was winning, steve bannon explained he was cheering europe's populist uprising. he believes even more it's advanced even more than in the united states. he focused his message very much on economic nationalism. that's something that has been one of le pen's focuses since 2011. the idea that the economic nationalism carries measures to keep business at home. it went down extremely well, standing ovation. perhaps the most chilling part when is he encouraged the crowd to identify the press and to boo them, which they did with alacrity. >> what about marine le pen herself, the far-right candidate, former presidential candidate? how does this fit into her narrative? she's been trying to make the party more mainstream, and here comes steve bannon saying, hey, you should actually own the label of racist and xenophobe. >> well, when you listen to that line that we just heard that crept

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i spoke to steve bannon for the first time last week after i went in there. and i spoke to him, and steve and i were discussing about how we both feel, katy, like i'm telling you, that trump very well may have done something during the election. i don't know what it is. i could be wrong, by the way. >> okay. nunberg later expanded on that claim in the studio with msnbc's ari melber. >> i think they were interested in something with his business. >> with his business? >> yes, with his business. >> did they ask you about the way he run his business? >> yes. and by the way, i have no idea what he did. and he may not have done anything and coy be wrong. >> you felt they were asking you more about potential crimes related to the trump organization than the campaign? >> that's what i felt. >> the white house dismissed nunberg's claims about a potential case against the president of the united states. >> i definitely think he doesn't know that for sure because he is incorrect, as we've said many times before there was no collusion with the trump campaign. anything fu

we were just saying this is a netflix kind of poster thing going on here with donald trump and steve bannon. joshua has worked for the atlantic. he's a bloomberg writer and he is on "cnn" a great deal. you have seen them all over the place. the thing aboutr this look that is so significant is its not just about trump. a lot more going on around him. we begin with the core question what is the one thing you want these people to keep with them? >> first of all my mother also calls you -- so even in my own family but that's okay. the one take away i think that i learned writing the book and thinking about, my book tells the story of how steve bannon and donald trump came together andha tramped in a way that even those of us who are weak-kneed who had front row action didn't see it happening in real time. i didn't think donald trump was going to win until 10:00 p.m. on election night and it hit you like a vendor bolt. i think in reassessing how that happened what is most important to know about donald trump is he is an incredibly intuitive politician. when i was out on the campaign trail at sta

steve bannon, and cambridge analytica, all sort of around the same issue.his is what christopher wylie told us about this last night. >> the company good funded in the spring of 2014, and he wanted to be able to have a functioning program in time for the midterm. so we have sort of a steve bannon and a billionaire breathing down our necks going where's the data, where's our information weapons? >> so that's pretty explicit. but i want to particularly ask you, because american election law prohibits foreigners from controlling or drekly or indirectly participating in the running of a campaign. do you believe that was violated in this case from the knowledge you have right now? >> it's certainly possible, and we owe it to the american people to find out. steve bannon obviously was in very early in terms of the formation and worked for cambridge analytica, and the timing in which they got this facebook data is essential to determine did they bring on this researcher who had this relationship with st. petersburg university, did they bring him on for the purpose

i can tell you that steve bannon and roger stone, i e-mailed with them like 30 times day. it's how we communicate. >> you're assuming they have those communications. you're unwilling to answer in front of a grand jury. >> i'm not going to answer in front of a grand jury if they do not explain why i have to go in now. vladmir putin is too smart to collude with donald trump. donald trump won't keep his mouth closed. >> how do you know donald trump would not collude with the russians or allow others around him to do that? >> there's an issue when trump said that he liked putin being in syria. he said that. it was inherent that trump understood because he has a very good understanding of middle america that average americans at that point where we're not going to remember -- remember isis was chopping off american's heads at that point. barack obama was pretty pathetic. he had withdrawn from iraq. this is my opinion. he had withdrawn from iraq and we had watched isis take over this wide wrath of land. i said, at that point, i said look, it could be a problem. people like marco

further about the group's message and practices. >> reporter: cambridge analytica was born out of steve bannonion for america. he had produced propaganda inspired films. but in 2014, he was looking for another tool in his arsenal. christopher wylie said from his first meeting with bannon, it was clear the goal. to fundamentally change america. >> he sees this as warfare. he is going to use as aggressive techniques that he is going to get away with. this is steve bannon and robert mercer using a foreign military contractor to use some of the same techniques that the military used to fight isis on the american electorate and that is what they got. >> reporter: cambridge analytica is a british subsidiary for scl group. helping battle crime, drugs, terrorists by chaeking the opinions of foreign populations. >> sales pitch was we go into foreign countries and we use our tools, our profiling to manipulate public opinion. that is what bannon wanted to do in the united states. >> so he created american arm cambridge list cambridge analytica. wylie says using psycho graphic data gathered from a faceboo

for example, steve bannon. one of the reasons that steve part of the book permeates so deeply is because he was on the record. those were his words. he never denied them, and they were telling where he was at the time and when he was talking to michael wolff and building the level of access will fat for some. of time in the west wing which was extraordinary. so i think that much is very true. i think he is a journalist took had and interpreted it from his sources and gave us a picture of the white house. one part of that is the level of chaos and backbiting. i think that is a fairly accurate picture. i think that is a fairly accurate picture you can read every single day. the other thing, they just mentioned, the real on the record quotes of people who worked in the west wing at the time. mostnk those were the important part of the book, from our perspective. it set off a whole cycle of steve bannon being excised and also kind of a fracturing of the trump university i think is still an ongoing story about the s

steve bannon in the interview for my new paper back told me

he clearly doesn't want to talk about roger stone and steve bannon. >> you know what, too bad. it is not up to witnesses to decide what they want to talk about and what they don't want to talk about. you know, this is ten people who are obviously centrally involved in this investigation. and prosecutors and fbi agents, their job is to set a wiet net, if he has no contact with steve bannon, so be it. but when you get a grand jury subpoena, you have to answer it. what he keeps saying, they want me. mueller wants me to say x. mueller wants me to say y. mueller wants him to tell the truth. that's why someone gets a grand jury subpoena. and the idea that sam nunberg gets to decide what he talks about and what questions he answers, i think everyone knows that's just absurd. >> jeff is spot on. i would say one of the most striking things i heard from mr. nunberg today is him saying he has, quote, no interest in providing these records to mr. mueller. jeff can attest, all of the subpoenas i obtained and served, never saw a line that took into consideration the interest of the person be

, i forget -- >> sloppy steve. >> sloppy steve bannon. n't come up with one for hope hicks. which means she still has a chance. steve, let me ask you this. hope hicks has been often described as the. >>'s emotional support. recent reports paint the president as increasingly alone and isolated. is there a core saying with hicks' absence? >> i don't think so. by the way, i'm very happy i wasn't nicknamed sloppy steve that one is taken. if the president gets mad at me -- >> not yet. >> exactly, not yet. he'll have to come up with another one. the main reason that i support this president is i believe in him. an ancillary reason is i don't want a nickname someday. but to answer your question, no, listen. i do believe this, that reports of the president's supposed isolation or december upon dense in the white house, chaos, these are overplayed. is there more turnover than i would like? absolutely there is -- >> olivia wants to weigh in on this. >> i just think that it's not tethered to reality, with respect. i mean, there has been unprecedented

. >>> before donald trump ran for president, steve bannon was working at cambridge analytica to testcy of appeals to grievance. fire fighting is a very dangerous profession. we have one to two fires a day and when you respond together and you put your lives on the line, you do have to surround yourself with experts. and for us the expert in gas and electric is pg&e. we run about 2,500/2,800 fire calls a year and on almost every one of those calls pg&e is responding to that call as well. and so when we show up to a fire and pg&e shows up with us it makes a tremendous team during a moment of crisis. i rely on them, the firefighters in this department rely on them, and so we have to practice safety everyday. utilizing pg&e's talent and expertise in that area trains our firefighters on the gas or electric aspect of a fire and when we have an emergency situation we are going to be much more skilled and prepared to mitigate that emergency for all concerned. the things we do every single day that puts ourselves in harm's way, and to have a partner that is so skilled at what they do is indis

he is a carbon cocopy of the steve bannon a year ago and the steve bannon in the white house. and he is a racist and so is donald trump, and that is why he has been president for a year and a half, and he has not been able to unify this country and move us forward and he is moving us forward to exploiting the racist. >> and dave is making the point exactly, because if i had a nickel for every time a democrat called me a racist, i would be a wealthy man on that alone, but the republicans have to stay focused on the message and every time you are called a racist or a homo phobe, it has the ugly tick us off message and it is very tempting to defend yourselves because the accusations are inflammatory. >> and factual. >> and some of them were borne from events as opposed to the blanket statement that all republicans or all conservatives, and ariva, we invited you in to be a legal mind on the stormy daniel, but would you like to weigh? >> well, listening to the clip, and we did not hear the clip, but the bannon says wear those names as a badge of honor, and he did not say don't get

first, to underscore what jim himes said, when steve bannon came before our committee, he initially refused to answer any question on what took place during the transition, during his time in the administration, and in most cases, after he left the administration. he said he was operating under the instructions of the white house, a white house that said publicly it was fully cooperating with our committee. the committee immediately took issue with that. the majority subpoenaed him on the spot, and was indignant that a witness should refuse to answer questions so broadly. when he came back under compulsion, he came back with a list of 25 questions that had helpfully been drafted by the white house, all of which would be answered with the word "no." any further questions would be refused by the witness. the majority said that is absolutely unacceptable. that will impede all future investigations. we will have to move forward with contempt. we have heard nothing since. they wouldy said rather shut down the investigation and find out the answers to the questions we have for steve bannon. why d

the president had enough of steve bannon, but before steve bannon left the white house because this is how steve bannon operated, he would tell people, sources and so on, he really did not like gary cohn's globalist views and that one nickname was given to cohn inside the white house was quote globalist gary. so, wolf, this appears to be a casualty of just an economic, you know, knife fight going on behind the scenes inside the white house. two pre-trialivailing view notie house. one for -- views in the white house. one for tracking down trade and people like gary cohn who were trying to persuade the president not to go down the road. the president is going down this road and gary cohn is out the door as a result of that, wolf. >> gary cohn came could work from goldman sachs. stand by. we'll get back to you. i want to bring in kaitlan collins. she is working the story for us. you are getting more information. what else are you learning? >> we are learning more about the details surrounding the departure. it is something that people saw coming for some time. they knew that gary cohn's d

steve bannon, sarah was asked when was the last time the president spoke to steve bannon? >> i'm not aware of any phone calls they've had recently. i think in the last several

and there we have steve bannon, and hope we know who steve bannon, and hope we know who steve bailey.. it has got nothing to do with this. he has written in the telegraph said that brussels has been viciously dismissive!” shouldn't say that at...” been viciously dismissive!” shouldn't say that at... i do think he has much to do with the price of fish but there you go. the telegraph love that, it is on the front page! that we find this out. shadow secretary of state for housing has said that this year policy shows that policies —— they have no plans to fix the housing policy. it is a fault of whitehall not town halls. since 2010 ross lee ping has more than doubles, the number of new homes being built still has not recovered to prerecession levels. well, the independent. the headline. goodness me. so rude tonight. the tories quietly shelved benefit sanctions reform, yellow card plan prevent poorest being unfair, doctor says a positively by rob are pleased to see around his desk some nights. what are the reforms? this is being going on for a long time. it is like a catch—22, people do n