david: what does this mean for gore got and steve miller? they were thought to be very close to steve bannon -- gorka and steve miller? >> i think gorka probably leaves. steve miller had a long relationship with him, he is a smoother figure and has sidled up to other people in the administration including jared kushner. we will see if he sticks around but it may be possible for him to stay. he doesn't have that high profile and has displayed more discipline than steve bannon had. it is the lack of discipline that cost steve bannon his job today. and finally, we have to remember that steve bannon came from breitbart news. does breitbart news now come to be in opposition organ for the president? >> i think it will play a role as an opposition outlet but not to donald trump specifically. it will be in opposition outlet to the mainstream forces within trump's white house -- the so-called globalists. steve bannon on the outside is likely to go back and continue the attacks he was known for. david: josh, thank you for joining us. when we come back,

. >> sean: i want to ask you this, lately, the white house, yourself, steve miller, sebastian gorka, kellyanne conway, you seem willing to go out and say, we are going to call you out on air to your face. i doubt cnn is going to run the exchange with stephen miller today. speak out they may run an edited version, but my guess it isn't the one where stephen miller puts him in his place. >> sean: he really does. at any point do you get frustrated. i have been in talk radio for 30 years, and there are times i met some people trying to get under your skin, i have built up immunities do you ever find yourself getting frustrated up there? >> every once in a while, of course there is a certain level of frustration. look, i know the american people, they did a poll not too long ago, they care about health care, they care about jobs, the economy, immigration. they don't care about russia. they don't care about who has a job in the white house. they care about who has a job at their house. those are the issues they were like for us to be able to talk about, and fortunately, we have a roomful o

are we expecting for people like steve miller or sebastian gorka, more closely aligned with steve bannones the signal anything for them? are you hearing of any additional staff changes? >> all we have heard is that general kelly is not finished cleaning house. if that's accurate i think there are people that will be looking over their shoulder. people, they're probably a couple of them. steve miller has entrenched himself. on the more communication side of things. maybe a better position. there are a couple others who might be looking over their shoulders. >> jesse: hey, bret baier. i don't want to get into the president's head. i think that's a very interesting place to be. if you're president trump, do you run out of people to fire after a while? [laughs] it's the turn factor. he's turning out people. one person goes in the next person goes. if kelly's tax it up and he's got a team, he still got another three years left in the first term. does he keep firing people? or does he stick with the team? even in the primaries -- he was still firing people. >> it's kind of a chaotic scene. 11

steve miller. you know, the press has it's spin on these people and a little vice president micheal pence. you have gotten to know them on a very personal and professional way. when you read the things that are said about them what is it that you dr. ben carson have to say about that? >> none of that surprises me. i remember what they said about me and none of that was true. you move beyond that and recognize that all of the people that you just mentioned understand that we have a mission. that mission is to make this country as great as it can be for as many of the people as you can do it for. you know, you take someone like president trump and it's always like jesus in the bible turned into the temple and turned the tables until the money fell out. republicans and democrats democrats a like. sometimes things have to be shaken up. we were t direction. most of americans understood that. we need to get away from the concept of blaming everybody. it's your fault this happened. your group was there be

. >> you mentioned steve miller. you want them to be removed from the white house as well. >> absolutely. well, the president's agenda is an agenda, first of all that he has embraced. but he's got advisors who advise him on certain policies. these individuals are advising him on counterterrorism, domestic policy and when you look at this trump agenda, it reflects their views and this ve unamerican agenda and that is why we have to address the individuals, first all of. but this is about the trump administration and who he is and what he believes. he never would have hired these people and put them in such strategic spots? >> let me ask you this. some people say this is going to be cover your rear moment. but according to cnn's reporting, this was in the works two weeks ago. this was before charlotte. so he's not firing him or getting rid of him because of his racist attitudes or because he gave him some -- a bad spin on charlottesville. this has nothing to do with charlottesville. >> heicide have never hired steve ba

steve miller has entrenched himself.h writing and on the more communication side of things. maybe a better position. there are a couple others who might be looking over their shoulders. >> jesse: hey, bret. i don't want to get into the president's head. i think that's a veryse interesting place to be. if you're president trump, do you run out of people to fire after a while? [laughter] >> jesse: it's the churn factor. he's turning out people. one person goes in the next person goes.he if kelly stacks the debt, and he's got a team, he has still got another three years left in the first term. does he keep firing people? or does he stick with the team? even in the primaries -- he was still firing people. >> it's kind of a chaotic scene. 11 firings or resignations since february 13th. it's august 18th. you have quite a lot of turmoil. it's not a traditional operation. i don't know if it's going to continue. i think there's a sense that they need to settle things down before the fall. as i mentioned, it's not just hope and wi

move forward and create good paying jobs and address neo-naziism in our country. >> you mentioned steve millerthem to be remove flumd white house as well. >> absolutely. well, the president's agenda is an agenda, first of all that he has embraced. but he's got advisors who advise him on certain policies. these individuals are advising him on counterterrorism, domestic policy and when you look at this trump agenda, it reflects their views and this very erican agenda and that is why we have to address the individuals, first all of. but this is about the trump administration and who he is and what he believes. he never would have hired these people and put them in such strategic spots? >> let me ask you this. some people say this is going to be cover your rear moment. but according to cnn's reporting, this was in the works two weeks ago. this was before charlotte. so he's not firing him or getting rid of him because of his racist attitudes or because he gave him some -- a bad spin on charlottesville. this has nothing to do with charlottesville. >> heicide have never hired steve bannon. steve bann

thinking about this, steve miller must been part of the advisory board putting that proposal togetherat's where he delivered it yesterday. it was multipronged, wasn't just cutting down on illegal immigration. it also put them back on sanctuary city laws. robust, broad, conference of. >> eboni: i was wondering why not do the part that's probably going to be easier first. >> eric: is this going to be easy? >> eboni: easier. >> eric: this might be the hardest part of it. contemplating -- sanctuary cities pushing back on all federal law. >> kat: i think we need to look at the welfare aspect of aids and i think it's of having something like a wall, good thing to do would be to a lemonade the welfare incentives. i've never understood how many without it was a good idea to say don't come over here but if you do, we will give you a ton of stuff. i never, ever understood how anybody felt that was a strong point of view. it's great to be nice but we all slept half sovereignty -- it's great to be nice but we all have to have sovereignty. >> trace: if they are going to start poking these democrat

. >> i think steve miller obviously has been there for sometime, but it's not necessarily the peopleho get you to the white house that you need around you when you finally get there. and i think the main thing that has to be done, now, once the shake-up is complete, and there may be more people to come, is the president has to get back on track. he has to honor the promises that he made during the campaign he has to get a legislative agenda passed by 2018, the start of the new year, otherwise we're going to be consumed next year with the midterm elections. it will be every man and woman for themselves and they're going to be running for the hills. the president needs a staff around him, that's congenial, and believe me, it's possible, it happens. i worked with two presidents and the staffs had disagreements but they were in the room and once that disagreement was over, and a consensus was had, policy was made and that's what we have to do. yes i have to make sure the president understands that you make policy in washington but you sell them on main street. >> tucker: for sure. i thin

you have steve miller carrying the torch on both of those issues quite nicely.nd steve miller doesn't come with any of the bannon baggage. >> he's fighting with mcmaster. we know he doesn't have that many friends in the white house, breitbart is going after jared kushner and mcmaster. is there concern that steve bannon on the outside is much more dangerous than a steve bannon or much more problematic than steve bannon on the inside? >> that's exactly it. one of the interesting things about bannon and one of the details maggie and i uncovered in the course of doing this. mick mull veinny gave a lot of staffers a copy about henry the eighth, bannon really embibed that about i think just in the terms of the way this is shaping up, having your strongest noble on the outside of the castle is often times more dangerous than having him on the inside. to put it in al capone terms, you want to keep your enemies -- what is it, your friends close and enemies closer. >> exactly. >> and bannon has tremendous contacts. big money contacts on the outside, sheldon adelson really

he's got steve miller, sebastian gorkha and now here we are.n today if he corrects whether or not he said on saturday, how do you make sense of all of these actions? >> breitbart has become pejorative. scaramucci got that right. i think there was a redemption for him. we can't have breitbart as a vehicle for the alt-right and we certainly can't have oval office as a vehicle for the alt-right. donald trump can't afford to have this cancer in the republican party which he represents. my party nominated donald trump to be president. so guilty or not, whoever is in the white house associated with alt-right has to go or it's going to playigue the republica party. it's a do-or-die moment. i think a lot of republicans have come out and said the right thing. if you base your campaign saying we have to call white supremacists terrorism by its name. >> consistency should be there. this should not be a partisan issue. rick, thanks for being here. cornell, thanks so much for your words on this. stephaniet i'm only recently an american citizen. when 9/11 i

advisor to the president that's my buddy so that's sebastian gorka what tell us the stories of steve miller and and steve benen and why specifically you know each of them are well i mean it's no it's no secret that steve bannon has been a promoter built the platform through breitbart which he called the platform for the all right. in many ways was the. mastermind in the presidential campaign of trying to energize and solidify that base and what we've seen this afternoon is that base is energized that base supports the president entirely and sees this as their moment and bannon's one of the people that helped make that happen steven miller was someone you know fascinating background. grew up jewish. progressive parents and in california and really took a major turn. he's he's someone that has been promoting that that white supremacist and white nationalist ideology for many many years you know i've read that his high school friends talk about this but you know so you know republican administrations have been dog whistle and race for ever and. racism and anti-semitism richard nixon famously y

three of us was awarded mas with the southern victory what possibly would cause sebastian gorka or steve miller whoever wrote that speech to him to put that it's not about a dog whistle it's a shout out phrase to the people who are in charlottesville to protest the removal of robert e. lee scott statue it's like i'm with you guys and you're correct this was before this is before that not just decided to murder somebody so did the president by saying that incite someone to murder well that's now the dow we've got it we've got to get some new bills of the prosecution. i don't know i would say. he when you say that what he said cherish the history obviously in this context you're not you know you know what the situation is it's about removing the statue so yeah that i think that may well have been a signal that he's in favor of not removing the statue or he's opposed to the charlottes or the whole city council decision or something like that. whether that's not incitement to murder obviously you know we're on says we're on dangerous ground these days nowadays if you text your boyfriend saying you

that too is a sign of white supremacy, and i'm afraid at the highest levels of stephen miller and steve bannon whispering into the ears of our president, theirs white nationalists and alt-right sensibilities, those are connected. we do a great disservice to pretend that those things are disconnected. how do you respond? >> what he said today was completely appropriate. he said we condemn hatred, bigotry and prejudice and violence. he said a version of that, but not nearly as much -- >> so it's too late? do you agree with michael that it's too late? >> that will be for people to decide themselves. i would remember people to lead editorial, because i think it made an important point. is the media has been obsessed about trump's response to this horrible incident. as i said i thought it was inadequate, but i think there's something bigger going on, which is the racial polarization in this country which is as bad as it's been in recent memory, the political polarization that's leading to this violence. i'm not condoning it in any way, this country has to be brought together. i would say don

white supremacist in charlottesville, we write too request immediate removal of steve bannon, steve miller, and going t going to work going t-- this letter does not have the guts to say, that it is pure guilt by insinuation. >> no question they are accusing him of being a racist and having racists on his staff, and god bless him, he is not going to take it lying down it offended him as it should, it would offense me, my favorite question, is was a question asked by donald trump who look add press, tell me what is alt-right, what is this made upward you made up, alt-right, if you are talking about racists, let's talk them racists, if you call them something else, let's find out what alt-right means. >> it means a creation of media, to put an umbrella over everyone which would include racists, with the people in the white house. this is a a mechanism by which they are able to call people who are not white supremacists or racists that, this say short word for racism. >> absolutely and designed so they can get away is with smearings president with being a racist, when he is not a racist, and s

i am struck, i see this like steve miller, who saw talking about the legislation, and steve bannon, who are proponents of this vision and the white house. i hear their voices when trump says in the sound bite that this legislation will not only restore our competitive edge but the sacred bonds of trust between america and its citizens, touching on a larger theme of national identity that i think is going to be good with his base. >> bret: i want to point out "the new york times" story, there is pushback by the justice department that this was not anything they are doing on the college thing but the rest of the list, they haven't had any big successes legislatively. can they get one with this? what democrats are going to sign on to the effort? >> you are right that the problem is that the two groups coming out most hard against this will be big businesses and corporations that benefit the most from low skilled importation of low-wage workers. low skilled and low-wage worker workers. politically on the left, they benefit the most from the current policy. many corporations, i assume, will

so i think steve miller needs to come out of his million dollar condo in downtown d.c.his daddy helped him pay for and see what happens when his policy -- >> bill: hit him at the knees. is that your cosmopolitan bias coming out again? >> right. >> bill: okay, it's early. brad, they'll cut the number who come into this country. they want to be more specific over who gets admission in. how does that change our country, if it does? >> it changes our country because we accept people that our country needs. we should still be acquiring the best and brightest minds to come to america. encourage them to come here because our country needs that kind of brain power. that's what has built our country, innovation, ingenuity. there has to be a rhyme or reason what we allow and now just swing our gates open and pick arbitrary numbers. we have to be able in today's day and age to vet these people and understand what their intentions are to come to our country. >> bill: this was a candidate during the election said he will bring in the best and brightest. that's who we want in for our

he has issued words but a statement would be to be fire steve bannon, gorka afternoon miller and say'm so incensed about nazis that claim to be my allies i'm going to send a signal. that would be more leadership. i believe it's incumbent on moral leaders like mike pence to say hey, it's their jobs or mine on the line here. this is an absolute moment in our country that calls for that kind of moral leadership. that would be what a statement looks like. >> tom perriello, brendon gilmore, thank you. >>> strong criticism from all sides towards the president. the long-term impact that could plague his presidency because of his long delay in addressing the racism and violence in charlottesville. ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you want at the lowest price. grazi, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor. the energy conscious whopeople among usle? say small actions can add up to something... humongous. a little thing here. a little thing there. starts to feel like a badge maybe millions can wear. who are all these caretakers, advocates too? turns out, it's californians it's me and

today is a perfect example, and i think why steve miller took exception to this is because of the constant brought by the mainstream media to suggest that anyone who wants to secure the borders or build a wall or have proper screening from countries that have an influx of people coming and the arm operably screen, the travel ban, is a bigot or a racist. they accuse the president of that. the vitriol that jim acosta approached it with. this is what we are dealing with now any time the subject comes up, and it is frustrating. >> juan: this ends this whole argument that this is just about legal immigrants. you have a policy on the table that will cut legal immigration in half. >> dana: >> greg: i agree with r once. all right, "the new york times" said the justice department could be preparing to sue some of america's politics, but the >> kimberly: two stories developing out of washington today. "the new york times" put out a report of the trump administration could be targeting affirmative action policies on campus, but the justice department says the paper got the story wrong. also today, th

that seemed to say you want people from the uk and australia, basically western europeans, and steve millerd back on that and said there was a cosmopolitan access. >> let them go to countries where people are migrating to learn english. i can tell you that his ancestors and many in the us, they were italian or german and they did not speak english. it doesn't say give me english speakers, it says bring me anyone that has -- focusing not just on skill, but on attributions. >> is anyone worried about going up against the president. they believe that legal immigration hurts more than it helps american workers. >> i don't think so. they don't really have to do anything to prevent it from becoming law. they just have to not bother with it. are we seeing it more and more from congress that they're just deciding to let trump be trump? >> if your becoming a lame duck president six months in? >> i don't think we're quite at that point yet. everything the president says and does is having an impact, but i think there is an increasing level of frustration, and it will be a real test to see if it is a

let's briefly remind our viewers who steve miller is. we saw him sparring last week with our own jim acosta over the white house's announcement about plans to restrict illegal immigration. that has been miller's pet issue for many years going back to when he served as an aide to then senator and now attorney general jeff sessions. but we haven't seen stephen miller in front of the camera for months now. he was instrumental in the planning and what many saw as a disastrous rollout of the administration's original travel ban targeting seven muslim majority countries. he made the rounds on the sunday shows trying to sell that ban, but one of the arguments he made at the time raised eyebrows because he pointed to terrorist attacks like 9/11, the boston bomber and the san bernardino attacks as three incidents that would have been prevented by the travel ban even though none of the attackers in the incidents came from any of those countries. so we saw them stephen miller take a more behind the scenes role. now he's re-emerging. we understand th

. >> sebastian gorka that steven miller or steve bannon. >> i wish you were just as enraged. >> i wishu would be just as enraged. >> i wish you were just as enraged -- i was with president obama in charleston. i was standing in front of the coffin of the past for killed there. i saw as tears welled in president obama's eyes. donald trump does not have the that moral fiber in his body to come close to that. >> you do not note president trump and what's in his heart. >> the reason is because he toyed with white supremacy for two years. >> why won't josh answer the question. >> i'll ask any question you want. >> why did president obama refuse to call them white supremacists and neo-nazis right after the speech? >> read his speech in charleston. >> no, no, no not the speech in charleston. >> paris, hang on. josh. >> immediately after. >> josh. >> i will not let people sit here and have a different standard for president trump. >> hang on. this won't work. paris, someone just justified white supremacy. >> be careful when you talk about my integrity. >> i'm talking about the facts, man. >> r

that dog whistle for years and continues to do it and if he continues to have steve bannon and steve millerng the justice department, trafficking in these horrible, horrible racist ideas. >> you worked in the bush administration or even steve bannon who ran breitbart.com when it claimed itself-declared to be the home for the alt-right which is the dressed up name for white nationalism and you've been saying that these people should be rooted out. >> i don't know how sebastian gorka got into the country with these ungnationalist groups. it's an umbrella organization or movement called the alt-right and the alt-right is a terrorist movement and that's what we have seen, deaths today in charlottesville because of the alt-right terrorist movement. it was given a platform by steve bannon at breitbart news and the trump administration needs to remove from the federal government anyone who has had any association with the so-called alt-right movement which, once again, is a terrorist movement. people are dying because of it. it's a threat to our national security and these people need to be out of

. >> steve bannon, sebastian gorka, steven miller. if donald trump cuts ties with them, would that do anything to help brinl this gap, this divide in this country, convince people that he is trying to work for everybody, not the 30% of voters who elected him? >> if he cut ties with them and said i'm cutting ties with him because of what they represent and what they are saying is wrong and is not good for america, yes. if he just starts playing musical chairs with the same kind of believes, then we're just going to see the same kind of policies. my concern is that the hate that we're seeing has been in many ways empowered. now they feel they can come out of the shadows now, and they're being blatant now. this was domestic terrorism. he never used that term. these people had on trump hats. he never addressed that. that is why we really need to show an america that does not stand for going backwards. the when we're calling ministers together that are going to be in washington on the day doctor king made the i a dream speech, we're saying

if you lose thor people, yeah, you have donald trump, steve bannon, and steve miller we have a long track record to know exactly what they would like to do left to their own devices without those guardrails be very aware things could go bad if those people leave. >> you don't think any name on the marquee of certainly the cnbc community and the business community, the rex tillerson, the former ceo of exxon mobil, who is the secretary of state, steve mnuchin, the secretary of treasury, those are the names i'm getting at. >> i have no reason to believe they're going to leave any time soon we reported this morning that gary cohn was furious, but was not going to leave, at least not imminently i will tell you that a number of the people whose names have been mentioned the last couple minutes have told a lot of people, told us they're seriously thinking about leaving before the end of the year if that happens, you lose a lot of those guardrails. and remember, the business leaders leaving, the reason i think this is the worst day of the presidency so far is that this is a republican president t

and with that, sarah huckabee sanders joined by steve miller. >> the president endorsed this morningys will have lots of fun. take it away, steven. >> thank you. great to be here today to talk with you about the president's new proposal for immigration reform. i'll just walk through the basics of it and then we'll take some questions and hopefully be able to answer all of them. so this is the largest proposed reform to our immigration policy in half a century. the most important question when it comes to the u.s. immigration system is who gets a green card. a green card is the golden ticket of u.s. immigration. every year we issue a million green cards to foreign nationals from all the countries of the worl, but we do have without regard to whether that applicant has demonstrated the skill that can add to the u.s. economy, whether they can pay their own way or be reliant on wealth fair or whether they'll displace or take a job from an american worker. and as a result of this policy in place now for many years, we've seen significant reductions in wages for blue collar workers, massiv

it was odd to see the white house, wolf, steve miller. there is some difference between what the statue of liberty looked like when it was first brought here to the united states, and what it loobd like now with a poem attached to it. they look like they're just losing the argument and i think you saw that toetd. >> you said there was an office of white supremacy of steve bannon in the white house. t there is no -- >> it shows steve bannon in which it represents a platform for white supremacy in this country. and being in the white house, it lends legitimacy to that whole wing of the president's supporters. >> it's not white supremacy, necessarily. >> let's be clear about this. it is a synonym for white suprema supremacy. you can make it as nice a noun as you want it to be, but this is dangerous in american public life and we can't mask that. the fact of the matter is, when the naacp has received threats, it has been from folks who march under that banner. i don't make any apologies for calling it for what it is. >> guys, stand by. we're

the work primarily we know of steve bannon and steve miller, one of whom is not at the white house any longer. i give trump credit in that the process did take a while. he did change position from the campaign, and from what he had said previously when presented with more and better information. but that's the anomaly thus far in his presidency. the way in which the travel ban was both written and executing is more to the rule, which is much more about impact. that's why you see the policy confusion. one policy was created sort of in a week or two out of whole cloth to make good on a campaign promise. the other one was seven months plus in the making. there's a difference when you spend time engaged with the issues, talk to the relevant people who tell you this can work and this can't work. now oftentimes, by the way those policy solutions are less than thrilling to any one side. i think that's what you're getting out of afghanistan. >> david gregory you've talked about the split screen we see with the president. tell prompter president trump where he sticks to the speech writers' word

inclination, when i heard fire and fury, i immediately thought of donald trump's chief speech writer, steve millerwho uses that kind of language all the time. the death metal slayer language approach to speech writing. american carnage. but i have been told by about a half dozen folks in the white house, people associated with the president, that while that language has been in the air for a while, and he's been talking about it behind the scenes, more importantly, he's been really getting riled up. even before this "washington post" report, about not getting enough credit for this 15-0 u.n. skoi security council sanction that included china. so the clip in the wayback machine and also a 1999 he interview that trump gave with tim russert on nbc. that north korea has been on his mind for quite some time and he's been stew about the u.n. vote. >> let me get to these latest responses coming from the military talking about absolute force. absolute force. they're saying the only appropriate response, this yesterday. apparently on state television they were talking about going after guam. so twice you h

tonight, jenny miller told cnn if i had any respect for her it probably would have been hurtful because she was very cons sending. earlier she posted a picture of hers self and her husband stevein. miller commented glad we could pay for your little get appeared to bee little the woman, she called her own comments highly insensitive. it was, i think, her expensive high fashion tags that got her in real [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> steve: from studio 6b in rockefeller center in the heart of new york city, it's "the tonight show starring jimmy fallon." tonight, join jimmy and his guests -- jessica biel, matt bomer, muca

miller. i know steve bannon. i'd love to see your evidence that stephen miller is this horrible person when you, mr. painter, said that you have deep amount of respect for jeff sessions. but what's the offense of stephen miller? he worked for jeff sessions. he was jeff sessions' chief spokesman. >> that's also how he got his job. >> he is a white supremacist and you know it. don't lie. >> you're wrong. i'm not lying. you're saying outrageous -- >> how do you excuse what bannon has to say about jews? i'd like to hear that, brian. >> you know that breitbart is run by -- there are two jewish editors over there. >> that's not the question i asked you. >> nobody out there is going to hear you. brian, give your answer, then governor, back to you. >> i don't think he is an anti-semite. he probably said an awful thing that he regrets now that's part of his divorce proceeding but he's hired two jewish individuals to run breitbart so he doesn't seem that antisemitic to me. >> governor? >> that's like saying people in the so

that dog whistle for years and he continues to do it and if he continues to have steve bannon an steve millerebastian gorka and running the justice department, he will continue to do this. so it is disgraceful that our president is still trafficking in these horrible, horrible racist ideas. >> and richard painter, you worked in the bush administration. can you imagine someone like sebastian gorka who is linked to the rend, cl which is a nazi organization or even steve bannon who right breitbart when it claimed to be declared the home for the alt right which is the dressed up name for white nationalism being in any other republican administration. you've been saying that people should be rooted out. >> well, i don't know how sebastian gorka got into the country with his affiliation, his -- with she's hungarian ultra nationalist pronazi groups. but putting that aside, what this is all about is not just the national socialists or the klu klux klan, there is a movement called the alt right and the alt right is a terrorist movement and that is what we have seen, deaths today in ch t chalt -- in ch

program and some basic way, or else you're not going to get the program enacted again, other than steve miller, i don't know who those people are. everyone else seems against the program. >> you have to start right now with his left, and kelly also has to get his arms run who's there and who needs to stay there and who may need to go. one thing is for sure, the president sets the agenda. the president will hire people now who believe in his agenda, and it's going to be their responsibility to get it done. good, competent people who know the way washington works. in order to wean the swamp, many people who will understand the in order to clean the swamp, you need people who will understand the swamp and many of those people have the pedigrees of prior republican administrations. those are the type of people you should be leaning on. success is going to be driven by the president being able to keep his promises. >> tucker: yeah, butgr you've got to have people p around you who agree with those promises andd are trying full-time to subvert them -- as a lot of the people around him are. this is th

i, you know, i think you're going to have gorcka out there on fox saying these crazy stuff and steve miller who says crazy stuff every day. so it's -- we're far from having this be over. >> i want to ask about the president of liberty university, jerry fall well jr., who defended the president's controversial comments on ch charlot charlottesville. >> he said there were very fine people on both sides. >> i have no idea. he has inside information that i don't have. i don't know if there were historical purists there who were trying to preserve some stat statues, i don't know. but he had information i didn't have. >> so i'm just watching your face. inside information? what? >> it's painful to watch that because he's obviously trying to keep his support with donald trump without saying the fact that what donald trump said is inexcusable, unacceptable. there were no good people at that rally. anyone -- and i'm really going out here on a limb. let's just say there were some people from the community who were interested in what may happen at the rally. the minute they saw who was attending. if th

it is interesting because steven miller a few years ago was on the radio with steve bannon was talkingon, legal immigration saying you have to reduce it, you used to have a period of assimilation in the past, and that's -- that and this thing about the huddled masses being able to yearn, that's nationalist talk, they'll say that poem is not relevant to statue of liberty because it doesn't apply. and interesting statistic for people watching, before the 1965 act, nine out of ten immigrants came to the united states mostly from europe, and it changed dramatically after that. you could see the change on these interactive maps, it flipped after 1965 that nine out of ten came from europe to nine out of ten came from other parts of the world. we sped this up, i don't know if you can see, shows you from 1800s to today. do you think this sort of sense among a lot of americans, even if they don't see it as racist that the country used to attract europeans, now it attracts others is what the tension is about? >> for me this is the cold words being used here that are not at all subtle. this idea

victims of this notion that immigrants are coming in with green cards, and this whole notion that steve miller has which is where are you coming from. but the fact that they're saying we are here to protect you, african american worker, you latino son of immigrant workers. we're here to protect you. and that, that kind of racial divisionary politic is a very dangerous thing be. i agree with you, whether or not the base is. because people are opening their eyes. >> well, and a certain point, you got to deliver. you got to deliver the people you said you were going to make lives better for independent with the guys getting on the bus in upstate new york. thank you both. >>> ahead, the president signs what may be the most significant legislation he signed yet. and against his own will with no cameras present, how the congress forced the president's hand on sanctions against russia and how that's going forward with ted liu in just a few minutes. these days families want to be connected 24/7. that's why at comcast we're continuing to make our services more reliable than ever. like technology that c

. >> those who don't stand-up and call out the racism coming from trump and steve bannon and steve miller in the white house, those people are racist and they need to be called out for it. >> how dare you -- >> how dare you question me on that. you have a lot of nerve -- national television. >> steve, hold on. lou, please go. >> yeah, it's appalling that he would call americans, trump supporters racist. there are racist -- >> trump supporters are racist. if you don't know that, you are exactly the problem, sir. >> let me respond. >> guys. guys. hang on. i'm going to say this. keith made the clarification, not all trump supporters are racist. lou, go. with that in mind, go. >> this is a national issue. both sides the right and the left support unity. this isn't about racism. this is about -- hang on. i'm going to cut you all off for the vice president of the united states. let's listen in. >> brought her grandchildren here five days ago. the children had to get up at 4:00 in the morning to buy a piece of bread. i asked her how long this crisis, to use her word existed in venezuela. she sai

i think steve miller would not be a reset if he were to be briefing very often because he would be taking a more pug nashs point of view that the president likes. >> steven miller would certainly be a reversal back to the anti-press times in the white house and during the campaign. peter baker and michael submit, guys, thank you very much. >>> and let's go to tonight's panel. all of us ladies, susan dell%o, beth few wee is the senator plit iks editor and zbler leana maxwell is the director of progressive programming. she was the director for progressive media for the clinton campaign. beth, i want to start with you. >> okay. >> first 100 days, not so great. second 100 days seemed to be a lot worse than the first 100 days. how is that possible? >> wow, what a question. well, i mean, the russia investigation is looming over everything and that's coloring everything. even the things that he's managed to do and accomplish, we had the vote on the u.s. security council about north korea the other day, 15-0 in favor of imposing greater sanctions. you could give him that. you can give him neal go