steve thompson, suffer from neurological impairments such as early onset, dementia, epilepsy, and parkinson's disease. they argue the rugby bodies did not educate the athletes about the risks of permanent brain damage caused by repetitive concussive impacts. will rugby has not yet been issued with a legal claim, but said in a statement that it is driven by a passion to safeguard our players. or germany's miller acre, my, him, me humble, successfully defended her world athletic championship title in the women's launch up the 28 year old who is also the running olympic champion, seal the when on her last attempt with a distance of 7.12 meters. she secured germany's only gold medal in already and with that erupt, they doc film is up next after a short break. don't forget, you can also get the latest news around the clock on our website to be found at t w dot com or social media channels as well to be found at d w new season. imagine how many portion of love us are now in the world climate change very half the story . this is my plan, the way from just one week how much was can really get.

steve and steph thompson, welcome to hardtalk.i may, i want to begin with that moment when you were diagnosed. an elite former sportsman, rugby player, told that you had early—onset dementia. for both of you, i imagine, that was an extraordinary moment. steve, what was your feeling at that time? er, relief, i must admit, at first. so many things had been going on, i'd changed... so many different things sort of happening in life thatjust didn't seem right. it came to a point, suddenly being tested and that, you sort of go into denial and say no, i'm absolutely fine, there's nothing wrong with me. you do the tests, suddenly, there's a memory test i had to do, and ijust fell apart in the middle, got upset and started crying. that was the moment i thought, "i'm in trouble here." and just after that, it's like guilt. for the first day, wasn't it, it was like, "oh, there's something wrong with me, we can get it fixed." then the reality hits, you can't fix it. it's not necessarily fixable, that's the problem with dementia. and that's wh

my guesss today are steve thompson and his wife steph. he is a former england rugby international who won the world cup in 2003. he has recently learned that he has early—onset dementia. seemingly linked to years of high impact collisions. what happens when the game simply isn't worth it? steve a nd steve and steph thompson, welcome to hardtalk. if i may, i want to begin with that moment when you were diagnosed. an elite former sportsman, rugby player, told that you had early—onset dementia. for both of you, i imagine, that was an extraordinary moment. steve, what was your feeling at that time. , , ., time. er, belief, i must admit, at first. time. er, belief, i must admit, at first so _ time. er, belief, i must admit, at first. so many _ time. er, belief, i must admit, at first. so many things - time. er, belief, i must admit, at first. so many things had i at first. so many things had been going on, i had changed... so many different things sort of happening in life that didn't seem right. it came to a point, suddenly being tested and t

bennie thompson is a total absolute disgrace. >> reporter: now obviously steve bannon wanted bennie thompson to testify at the trial. the judge did not allow that. there is still a slight chaps the judge could revisit that decision. that all depends on how the prosecution's case plays out. erin? >> sarah, thank you. and i want to go now to the former trump white house communications director. our senior legal analyst and former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and juliet keim the former assistant secretary of homeland security. ellie, you hear bannon's defense nine months after defying the subpoena for the first time. what do you make of it? >> well, steve bannon's options and his defenses are narrowing by the day. i think heading into this trial steve bannon was expecting to turn this into a political spectacle, to make the speeches we just saw him make outside the courtroom, say they're targeting me because i'm steve bannon, because i'm unpopular and where is bennie thompson and all that. the reality is what happens inside the courtroom is a very different ball

the issue has been this letter that bennie thompson sent to a lawyer for steve bannon on october 8th in which thompson talks about bannon's claims that he can't respond to the subpoena because of executive privilege that trump has asserted. bannon talks about that. what the lawyers for bannon said today is, well, the government should not be able to introduce this letter because it's here say. if we can't call bennie thompson to testify, the letter shouldn't be allowed. the judge initially said maybe it can be allowed if bannon would simply proffer or make a written statement about his reliance on privilege which the defense said, wait a minute, you said a while ago we can't get into that issue at all here. so we want a continuance, we want a one-month delay. the judge called a recess, came back and said, okay, never mind, no proffer, if this letter is going to be introduced, you have to take out all the references, the three or four paragraphs of bennie thompson's description of bannon's assertion privilege. we're pretty well past that and i think we're going to get along to jury sel

what was so bizarre to me, listening to steve bannon, is that he challenged and said bennie thompson bannon didn't have the guts to show up in front of congress for a lawful subpoena. he just basically thumbed his nose. he didn't have the guts, didn't have the courage, -- he can hide behind his microphone for his podcast and bright bright, but he didn't have the guts to stand in front of a committee and be questioned about what he did. >> details, details. i did reference the prices right, i should remember -- yeah, i used to watch with you, grandma. thanks so much. doug jones, shan wu, doug, thank you so much. we'll be right back. hey, (man) [whispering] what's going on? (burke) it's a farmers policy perk. get farmers and you could save money by doing nothing. just be claim-free on your home insurance for three years. (man) that's really something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. (dad) bravo! (mom) that's our son! (burke) we should. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ wait!!! let me help—land o' frost premium meat. delicious and no by-prod

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. >> so in case it wasn't clear from that, steve bannon really wanted bennie thompson to testify at his trial. the judge shut that down when bannon tried to subpoena him. he left the door open of possibly revisiting that depending on where the prosecution's case goes, but it's a very slim chance we're going to see bennie thompson testifying, especially since he tested positive for covid today. >> i wish i didn't have to waste the audience's time with the sideshow that this is, michael, but this is a big deal that he is having to do this. the prosecution says that bannon straight-up refused to follow the rules. do you think that his defense holds any water here? >> you know, i really don't. and i think that most of what you're seeing is just a circus, even from the sort of the shenanigans outside the courthouse. what he is playing for is for that one juror to come forward and say well, maybe so, maybe he tried to cooperate. he is playing for the one. he is not playing for the win like the prosecution has the get a unanimous guilty verdict. so he just wants to convince one person. so they

benny thompson has an important job. steve bannon is a broadcaster accused of bringing the law. the staffer who is patently on the witness stand, was basically just ask basic questions, did he provide documents and show up? >> as caitlin said, the government cases going forward. steve bannon was served a subpoena, he did not answered. he did not even attempt to answered and showed contempt for the process, for the institution of congress. that, as far as the bennett is concerned is the point. bannon has always been about undermining institutions like congress, defying them flagrantly in an effort to make the point that they are, in his mind, illegitimate. it does not surprise me that these proceedings have gone a long these lines, with bannon continuing to put on a show for his podcast audience. that is ultimately what this is about. he really does have an audience of one at the end of the day. that is still donald trump. i still think that in a lot of noise, bannon is acting in a way that he believes trump would be pleased with. in fact, from the evidence that we have, trump is

the people that i and thinking for example, chairman thompson said he wants to get documents steve bannon before they entertained doing some kind of deposition. of those documents could be eliminating but they are certainly not in the timeline of having to come in and the next four or five days. we also know, and with the chairman told me the other day, is that when they released their final reports, sometime in the early fall that they want to do a hearing around that release so we at least know that we are getting one more hearing, potentially in the early fall when that release comes out and they are all leaving the door open to this making us wonder at what point they finally put the pen down here and stopped that and just said, okay, this is what we have found out, this is what we are presenting. >> congress may have a recess but we will continue for the entire list in pursuit of this story. thank you so much. always great to see all of you. thank you. >>> this morning, it is happening, the highly anticipated and controversial meeting between president biden and saudi arabia's crown

court, and try to get into some challenge with select committee chairman bennie thompson, chiding him for not showing up. steve bannon is a podcaster accused of breaking the law. the staffer who apparently was on the witness stand, i assume that's the staffer who was sent, was basically just asked basic questions, did he provide documents, did he show up. >> the government's case is straightforward. steve bannon was served a subpoena. he didn't answer it. didn't even attempt to answer it. showed contempt for the process, for the institution of congress. that, as far as steve bannon is concerned, is the point. bannon has always been about really undermining institutions like congress, defying them, flagrantly. in an effort to make the point that they are, in his mind, illegitimate. it doesn't surprise me that these proceedings have gone along these lines, with bannon continuing to put on a show for his podcast audience. that is ultimately what this is about. he really does have an audience of one at the end of the day. that is still donald trump. i still think that in a lot of ways bannon is acting in a way tha

it is that he challenged and said that benny thompson didn't have the guts to shop the court. stevedidn't have the guts enough to show up in front of congress person to a lawful subpoena. he just basically -- he did have the guts, he did have the courage, he could hide behind a microphone for his podcast and breitbart. but he didn't have the guts enough to stand on the committee and the question about what he did. >> as they say. details details, about the facts of life. and since i did reference the prices right. i remind population to have your -- yeah i used to watch with my grandma. thank you so much. doug jones, shampoo, and doug high. thank you everyone, we'll be right back. rough thousands of cars. then, tap to b buy. that's it. no sales speak,, no wasted time. go to vroom.com and pick your favovorite. new astepro allergy. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid free spray. while other allergy sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minute so you can. asteprand go. ♪ this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to kno

i think cross-examination from steve bannon's defense attorneys is where we'll get the most interesting content. >> and ban had strong words for bennie thompsonwhat was that about? >> reporter: steve bannon has made some comments that are pretty unusual in an ongoing case, especially when a case is open like this. he was outside the courthouse and made comments. i believe we have audio of the comments we can listen to here. >> where is bennie thompson? we subpoenaed thompson and they're hiding behind these phoney privileges. bennie thompson and the entire committee. we had a staffer up here today, he sent a staffer over. he's too gutless to come over here himself. >> reporter: so, those comments are directly relevant to the ongoing case, so it's somewhat surprising we haven't seen a gag order thus far from the judge because he's not just making general comments. those are very specific to the facts at issue in this indication. and potentially could be heard by jurors coming in and out of the courthouse because those are happening right at one of the entrances here. that could be something we'll hear more about if this continues and he continu

so chairman thompson also has a message tonight for steve bannon, who claims he's willing to testify before the committee. >> we have a subpoena that listed a number of documents that he needed to produce for us. so i would say before we engage mr. bannon at all, he will have to comply with that subpoena. that has not happened yet. >> now, it remains to be seen if bannon complies for his chaim to testify is a stunt to mock the whole process as the justice department alleges. bannon was a key player in trump's claim to power. according to newly published audio, bannon had insight into trump's plan for election tay. here is steve bannon speaking to so-called associates three days before the actual election. >> what trump's going to do is declare victory. he's going to declare victory, and he's just going to say he won. >> then on december 30th, after many in trump's circle told the president he lost the circle, by this point, every single sane individual knew this, bannon still convinced trump to return to washington for the stop the steal rally that. is according to "the washington po

as a committee chair, but he thompson might say, stay tuned. meanwhile, why is steve bannon smiling? -- i repeat, federal court today. not expect data, with jury selection now underway for contempt trial because of failing to -- never provided documents related to january 6th. tonight, bannon is still angry, it seems for an open mind. as long as interim of the january six committee, that is. >> i really want to thank all the jurors for being truthful. i thought that was great. i think it would've been more productive if we had been on capitol hill in front of open mics addressing the nation with exactly all this nonsense -- the trial of putting up on capitol hill. it's time they start having other witnesses giving other testimony other than what they have been putting up. >> don't worry, that happened on the hill as a legislative hearing. they won't have the same thing as your criminal trial, there will be opportunity for you to, should you choose to, testify for anything else, so keep in mind that steve bannon, who could spend at least 30 days leading up to a year in

here and he sent a staffer. >> first of all, bennie thompson has covid so i don't think anyone wants him in the courtroom. putting that aside, i think steve bannon is finding that being on trial as a defendant is not quite as fun as perhaps he imagined. i think maybe he envision it had like his podcast or like that conference where you get to tell people what's what and give people a piece of your mind and rail against the democrats and bennie thompson but in real life in a criminal trial it is a tightly-controlled scenario and this judge has by all indications run a very tight ship. something i used to love as a prosecutor. you don't want someone going off the rails. all these defenses that steve bannon had in mind, executive privilege, i'm being targeted, the judge has shut those down and he's left with this narrow limited defense of basically didn't quite understand what the subpoena meant. >> there's two critical things to any defendant, one is the court of public opinion, right, and one is what happens inside the court. i think what he was saying there is consistent with what he has to say in the court and that is this wasn't a forma

as a committee chair, bennie thompson might say, stay tuned. meanwhile, why is steve bannon smiling? that's him going into federal court today. and i repeat, federal court today, not as a spectator, as a defendant. with jury selection now under way in his contempt trial on charges to comply with the january 6th select committee. recall he just blew off their subpoena for testimony, never provided documents related to january 6th. and tonight, bannon is still angling, it seems, for an open mic as long as it's in front of the january 6th committee, that is. >> i really want to thank all the jurors for being truthful and blunt. i think that was great. i think it would have been more productive if we'd been on capitol hill with open mics addressing the nation with the nonsense, this show trial they've been putting up on capitol hill. it's time they start having other witness and give other testimony other than what they've been putting up. >> don't worry. that happened on the hill as a legislative hearing. they won't have the same thing as your criminal trial. there will

> just looking at some of your viewers statement from chairman betty thompson and liz cheney in the situation, the conviction of steve law and the affirmation of the committee's work. steve bannon chose allegiance to donald trump with the law, no one is above the law. what do you think? >> this shows the commitment to continue to go to the mat. there is another figure out there, another thing that will happen here. and also held in contempt of congress that shows just how aware they are. you have to go back to the 1970s. that's pretty compelling. now remember that there are other figures that they did not go to the match with when it pertains to attempt of congress. mark meadows this one, and the department of justice has not decided to prosecute the former aide there and something that came out yesterday where the committee members alluded to the fact that they do not want to get bogged down on his guys on attempt of congress. even if steve bannon goes to jail, that is not necessary mean that they are getting on the track here. that committee is going to expire at the end of this congress. so there is not a lot of b

steve bannon on the stand. as they were explaining their reasoning for this when the jury was not in the room, they were, again, saying that they needed to call chairman bennie thompson order to really make a case to make their defense. the judge did not allow that. they said that steve bannon was eager to take the stand, but if he had done so, he would have explained that he was listening to the advice of his attorney that he believed he had some protection under executive privilege, and that's why he didn't show up. the judge is not allowing him to make those arguments. that is why they didn't move forward with this defense. >> thank you so much. before you go, i want to ask you one quick question, if he's found guilty, and that's an if, we have no idea, how much time behind bars might he be looking at? >> reporter: he's looking at a minimum of 30 days behind bars. but it's clear from this that his lawyers intend to appeal. because these are misdemeanor, there is a good chance he will not serve that. >> thanks so much. joining me now to talk about this and much more, former d.c. police officer michael fanone. he was in the same courthouse today giving a victim impa

staff writer for the "atlantic" derrick thompson, thank you very much. we appreciate it. steveyou have charts for us, but on another topic. i feel like there's a theme this morning. of things we cannot, because of politics, collectively act on, whether it be climate change or covid. this morning, you're looking at guns and mass shootings. we had another one at a mall in indiana yesterday. yet, the action we've seen in congress, we have had a first step. there's been a bill. but democrats will say it is so far short of what is needed. republicans still holding to their position that seems to really feed into a gun culture in this country, that surpasses every country in the world. give us a sense of what your charts are looking at this morning. >> mika, this is incredibly frustrating, i think, to all of us, especially when the data is so unbelievably clear. facts are stubborn things, and it wouldn't take a lot to make a difference in the mass shootings going on out there, like the one at the mall at indiana, and, yet, we do nothing. you can see what's going on out there. the fir

committee chair bennie thompson gave an update on where things stand with bannon. >> since steve bannon indicated he's willing to cooperate, has he had any contact with the committee about providing documents or coming in? >> no. you know, we have a subpoena that listed a number of documents that he needed to produce for us. so i would say before we engage with mr. bannon at all he would have to comply with that subpoena. >> and that hasn't happened yet. >> that has not happened. >> nbc news has learned the bipartisan group of senators working on reforms to the electoral count act in the wake of the 2020 election, expect to release its bill early next week. republican senators susan collins of maine said the group is trying to decide whether it is better to introduce one bill, or multiple bills. she said she anticipates broad support for whatever they introduce next week saying they've received input from members of the administrations under both former's obama and trump. the electoral count act governs the process of how they select the president and vice president and how congress tal

the caricature of arguments that a trial lawyer would make for example, steve bannon's lawyer suggested that maybe benny thompson did not actually sign the subpoena for bannon and it might've been forged because his signature did not look like his signature on other letters. so these were the kinds of -- seemed the defense was grasping at toward the end after their major arguments, they were basically excluded by the judge before the trial even got underway. >> and it is always a bad sign if you want to hang your case on things that aren't even allowed in. that can be debated and litigated, criminal appeals happen. but that was the same total we got from mr. bannon outside court today. he is now convicted and faces a mandatory minimum unless it is overturned on appeal, and yet he was defiantly trying to continue his fight with the committee. take a listen. >> i want to thank the jury for whatever they did, the judge, the court administration. i only have one disappointment and that is the gutless members of that show trail committee, the j6 committee, did not have the guts to come down here and testify in open c

meanwhile the committee chair bennie thompson gave an update on where things stand with bannon. >> since steve bannon indicated he is willing to cooperate, has he had any contact with the committee for any documents, or coming in? >> no, you know, we have a subpoena that listed a number of documents that he needed to produce for us. so i would say before we engage mr. bannon at all, he would have to comply with that subpoena. >> and that hasn't happened yet? >> that has not happened yet. >> we have now the latest on soaring inflation, as prices are rising at the fastest pace in 41 years. this, as the consumer price index shows americans paid more last month for just about every necessity. from gas prices, to groceries, to rent. nbc news correspondent tom costello has the details. >> for anyone struggling with daily expenses, especially seniors on fixed incomes, the inflation report is not just an economic stat, it is very real. the highest inflation in 41 years. and delray beach florida, the cost of electricity to keep the ac on is crushing 66-year-old veronica bowly, she just received last mo

steve bannon continues today. the former white house strategist decided he was above the law, the prosecution said. >>reporter: bannon with a message for bennie thompson. >> he's made it a crime. made it a crime. not a civil charge of wanting my testimony, but a crime and he didn't have the courage or guts to show up here. >> reporter: thompson likely not appearing at the committee's thursday hearing after testing positive for covid the panel will not receive an expected trove of text messages from the secret service from january 5th and 6th. the "washington post" reports the agency determined it has no new texts to provide congress and texts exchanged around the time of the insurrection were purged blaming a technical upgrade or migration. >> they received four requests from congressional committees in, on january 16th to preserve records. and they have this planned migration for the 25th >> reporter: the national archives asking the agency to investigate the potentially unauthorized deletion of january 6 texts. thursday's hearing expected to focus on three-plus hours of the capitol attack during which the committee says donald trump did little two w

issued a statement in reaction to a jury today finding steve bannon guilty of contempt of congress by not abiding by its subpoenas. congressman thompson and congresswoman chaina said this is a victory for the rule of law and an affirmation of the committee's work. how big of a win is this for the committee, this conviction? >> well, it's a big win for them and a long time coming, i'm sure they think the wheels of justice move slowly sometimes. it's been a long time since they have been trying to get information from steve bannon, and of course, lots of other witnesses too. we have navarro's trial coming up and they referred a couple other folks over to doj for refusing to testify. doj decided not to pursue. they have been pushing this all along. you cannot thwart our subpoenas, you cannot ignore us. now they finally have their vindication. steve bannon is going to jail. it won't be for long, but he's going to prison and it's because he defied this subpoena, and i think they want that message to resonate loudly with everyone the committee is dealing with. >> jim, do you agree? you think steve bannon is going to go to jail? >> look, his

manu, at this point does the committee still wanti to talk t steve bannon or is it about the power of the subpoena? >> it's both. bennie thompsonthe chairman of the committee, told me last week that they would like to talk to him. but just because he says he will comply with the subpoena and now belatedly in the run-up to this trial doesn't mean they were going to bring him forward. they want him to produce documents first. he needs to fully comply with the subpoena before they depose him. his offer to testify seems to be an effort to stave off something serious in his trial rather than come before this committee. but that is a key moment. donald trump was speaking to steve bannon in the run-up to january 6. what did he say in that phone call? the claim that bannon said there was executive privilege here, bannon was not an employee of the white house at the time either. so the january 6th committee says a lot of questions he has raised and he needs to come forward. >> and the power of the subpoena question that you just raised is a big one. we know that the january 6th committee is continuing to do its investigation. the member

thompson, he will join in remotely.>>> not far away from the capitol, steve bannon's defense team will take over today, as the content- prosecution presented two witnesses. tanon is accused of not showing up to the hearings after he was subpoenaed for the prosecution witnesses basically testified, yeah, he wasn't there. then, the prosecution rests. >>> we'll be watching what president biden says about policing and police funding today. talking about it on social media. on facebook, finally @scottmcgrewtv. >> thank you, scott. >>> the e-trucks, replacing a fleet of vehicles for the u.s. postal service that when the service between 1987 and 1994, many of which lack of safety features like airbags and backup cameras. it will now include about 165,000 new e-vehicles, for half the new fleet for the next decade the original plan only called for about 10% of v- vehicles. >>> happening today, the return of comic-con. thousands of fans are already lined up for the first live comic-con in three years. >> a long, long, long wait. they have purchased their tickets a long time ago. in 2019, they had to roll them over again and ag

after trump's long-time ally steve bannon was found guilty of contempt for refusing to appear before the committee. congressman bennie thompson and congresswoman liz cheney came out with a warning, for anyone else who tries to on strubt or stone wall their investigation, just as there must be accountability for all those responsible for the events of january 6th, anyone who obstructs our investigation into these matters should face consequences. no one is above the law. now bannon, i should note, is the first close aide to trump to be convicted as a result of investigations into the insurrection. he could face months if not a year in jail. after the verdict trump's former chief strategist lashed out at the committee. >> i only have one disappointment, and that is the gutless members of that show trial committee, the j6 committee didn't have the guts to come down here and testify in open court. >> well, a lot of tough talk from bannon, even though of course the whole reality of this is that he did not testify in his own defense, despite vowing just days ago that he would go medieval during the trial. his word. now today's verd

the house select committee's chair and vice chair, bennie thompson and liz cheney, they sent out a statement today. it said, the conviction of steve bannon is a victory for the rule of law and an important affirmation of the select committee's work. anyone who obstructs our investigation should face consequences. no one is above the law. but what they're saying there is about the consequences, it is not about the enforcement of the subpoena. and they are left with this conviction that is great news for them, but it didn't mean that they're going to be getting information out of steve bannon now and forcing that subpoena. they will not and may not ever learn what steve bannon knew about the lead up to january 6th and about his conversations with president trump. >> and katelyn, what's the timeline for sentencing and how fast can an appeal be filed? >> reporter: right. well, we don't have -- we don't have a long time ahead of us. steve bannon now is going to be -- sentencing is set for october 21st. so that's about one year exactly from wherever he was supposed to sit for this testimony for congress. his attorney did tell us that th

steve bannon. you know, they were talking about the letters that went back and forth between those two, and in the letter that bennie thompson notes that while they welcome getting information from him, it doesn't change the fact that he didn't comply with his subpoena. it doesn't change the fact that they referred him for criminal contempt. and when she was quizzing this house staffer, she asked, you know, did bannon offer his testimony after he was charged? no, did he offer it in february, march, april, may? the answer was no every time. then they get around to the fact that he didn't actually offer to try to give any information to the committee until he got around to july 10th, which of course, was just a week before his trial date. now, the defense will have an opportunity to present their case, starting tomorrow. we don't yet know what that's going to look like. we know they have a couple witnesses they could call, but we don't know who on the list if any they plan to. and we still don't know if bannon is going to testify in his own defense, wolf. >> we'll find out tomorrow. meanwhile, rudy giuliani has now been ordere

for instance if representative thompson said i find that you have no viable privilege, he can't force the testimony but that to use the issue of them, to move into court, steve danna did not avail himself of the process, he justified the subpoena and boasted about it. >> what you make of this clarification, i'll say, of steve bannon saying in fact, i stand with trump and the constitution, and what that means, really, for any kind of future negotiation he will have with the january 6th committee, calling them, as he put it, gutless members of the committee. >> yeah, that will not serve steve bannon well come sentencing time, those statements will be held against him. i predict, by judge nichols and i think it qualifies as irony that he said i stand by donald trump and the constitution because i don't think anybody can say with a straight face that donald trump stands with the constitution, not after what we saw at last night's j6 public hearing. >> two major stories developing this hour of course, glenn as always, we appreciate you jumping on for us and being there in front of the courthouse and clarifying things for us as steve bannon has been found guilty o

thompson, the chair. our reporters and d.o.j. experts will tell us what, if anything, we should read into that. we also know today that former trump strategist steve bannon will go on trial next week for his contempt of congress case for refusing to answer the committee's question. his legal team lost a second team to delay his trial over publicity of the trial's hearings and as the man who tried to get trump in office prepares to go before a judge, there is also news today about what that man, the one he helped get into the office, is doing in 2024. donald trump telling new york magazine he's already made the decision about whether he will run again for president and that, quote, i feel very confident that if i decide to run, i'll win. it doesn't quite match up to the "new york times" reporting on how the republican party feels about him but i digress. joining us now is ryan reilly, a justice reporter for us here at nbc news. also the "new york times" congressional reporter luke broadwater and former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. ryan, you were always things january 6th committee panel and d.o.j. talk to us about this white h

steve bannon leaving angry after his send day in court on criminal contempt of congress charges. bannon was upset that january 6 committee chair benfully fnie t was not on the witness list. >> bennie thompson sent a staffer over here. where is bennie thompson? we subpoenaed thompson and they are hiding behind the phony privileges. >> bannon's legal team tried to subpoena several house members but the judge wouldn't allow it. >>> right now wildfires are scorching the earth as a heatwave grips the northern hemisphere. just hours from now, president biden announcing new action on climate change and the hunt for suspects under way after a high priced jewelry heist on a highway. new dove ultimate antiperspirant. our unique water based f formula and 6x more glycerin. helps restore skin to its best condition. new dove ultimate. she's feeling the power of listerine.. he's feeling it. yep, them too. it's an invigorating rush... ...zapping millions of germs in seconds. whoa... ...which leaves you feeling... ahhhhhhh listerine. feel the whoa! ♪ my name austin james. as a musian living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system. with a painless,

can't argue this, thompson says in the letter, the government wants that letter in, bannon's lawyer said it was hearsay. but the judge said no, it can be introduced as evidence. all stevee was relying on trump executive privilege. that is known as a proffer. and the defense lawyers have said what? wait a minute. you told us earlier we could never argue that to the jury, what is the deal if now we can? that is a major change here. we're not prepared for that. that changes our whole approach to the trial. we want it delayed at least a month. so the judge has recessed the hearing to consider that motion. so everything is on hold for now. we're waiting to hear until judge karl nichols comes back into court to decide whether in fact to proceed or whether in fact to delay things another month. >> big department there. we'll stay on top of it. appreciate it. >>> russian president vladimir putin is in iran right now, his second trip outside russia since the invasion of ukraine. why he is there and how the visit could affect relations with the u.s. next. d affect relations with the u.s next a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. because with miro, they could proble

steve annan. the fact that bannon was found guilty of flaunting the subpoena sends a significant message to a lot of people. bannon the other day outside the courtroom challenged bennie thompsonsaid he was gutless. refused to testify under oath in his criminal trial. but bannon is the gutless one. he was gutless when he refused to testify under oath, he was gutless when he refused to testify at his trial. he is the coward and stands behind a microphone or radio and spits out things that are antidemocratic, anti-american. judy: this first conviction of somebody close to former president trump based on the work of this committee, how significant? >> very significant. before i was in congress, i was a congressional counsel. this is for the rights of congress, asserting their right to investigate. so i think it is very significant that now congress can play its role in asserting its right to investigate so the gutless steve bannon, who was so critical in this insurrection -- we know steve bannon was calling the president all during christmas time, saying, get in there and be running this insurrection, which we know steve bannon was very much involved in. i think steve bannon is g

steve bannon and navarro. the department has green lit all of the access to the house select committee's transcripts. that's more than about 1,000 witnesses, i might add. in the word of chairman bennie thompson, no one the committee has talked to is off limits. now, that list is about to include some household names, including some with potential political futures. these witnesses have unique insights into the chaos of the administration, of course, after the capitol was attacked. today it was former acting white house chief of staff, mick mulvaney. at the time, he had been serving overseas. but he has not been shy about what he saw as a dysfunctional executive branch. >> the west wing was broken. it was not functioning properly. >> and the committee is really moving her up the totem pole, from assistant to some of the highest positions in government. they've interviewed trump secretary of the treasury, steve mnuchin, who is one of only four cabinet secretaries to serve for the entire trump administration. we know that former director of national intelligence john ratcliffe is in talks, as is former acting homeland security secretary chad wolf and former secretary of state and potential 2024