one famous general was stonewall jackson. he won a battle with information from a beautiful spy named belle boyd. is that all of it? kathy: not so hot? jim: well, not if you expect to win a contest with it. kathy: it's not long enough either. jim: you should do more reading, make a lot of notes, organize your material, and then start writing. kathy: okay. jim: yeah. kathy: i'm afraid. jim: why? you've written essays before. i meet greer garson i won't be able to think of a thing to say. jim: oh, i'm sure you'll think of something. tell her what grammar school you go to. kathy: oh, no. you don't talk to a queen about such little kid stuff. she would think i was a child. this has to be important, high class, grown-up talk. how do you do, miss garson? (daydream harp music) how do you do, miss greer garson? greer: how do you do, miss kathy anderson? kathy: i'm quite excellent. thank you, miss garson. greer: i am happy to hear that. won't you come in, miss anderson? kathy: thank you. i'd be highly impressed to do so. shall we sit

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lee and stonewall jackson. this gushing about removing depictions of confederate flag from those windows. a panel of historians talked about the flag's history in relation to slavery and modern-day racism. this is about an hour and 50 minutes. >> welcome everyone and thank you for being here tonight i am dean of the washington national cathedral. an honor and pleasure to have you here for us to begin a series of conversations that we hope will be a blessing to many. -- for thisthi evening is to create a cap conversation about the lee jackson windows and the larger issues of race and the legacy of slavery and our nation. know the recent history of events regarding these windows, i invite you to read about that history in the information we provided for you within your program on tonight's conversation. this is the first in an ongoing series of conversations over the next two years intended to foster conversation and a deeper understanding. while the leadership of the cathedral made the decision to remove the con

lee and stonewall jackson. this gushing about removing depictions of confederate flag from those windows. a panel of historians talked about the flag's history in relation to slavery and modern-day racism. this is about an hour and 50 minutes. >> welcome everyone and thank you for being here tonight i am dean of the washington national cathedral.

a year earlier when stonewall jackson marked. he had 28,000 men. where are those 20,000 men? after that, grant waits for any other confederate shenanigans, nothing comes, he'll begin to pull out on the night of the 20th. to pick up that story, come back next year, and we'll tell you that one, too. the landscape they leave behind is devastated, but if you go out there today you'll hear the birds sing and the whir of insects in the trees. if you're lucky you'll feel a breeze. we could all use one of those, right? it's beautiful. it's pristine. >> it was a soggy mess yesterday. >> just as it was when they were fighting. but i invite to you go out and visit there, stand in that spot and listen to those birds, hear the whir of those insects, feel that breeze, think about those men, the men who suffered and died and sacrificed there. they would be glad you have come there to remember them. thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you for the fantastic talk. one right over here? >> i've heard of a tactic called the column, which is positive many law e -- >> you should direct this question t

i'm sure jim and wayne will back me up on this, what if stonewall jackson was there? what if they captured this? what you find when you study , time keepske this everything from happening at once. history is like that. everything is tied together. but there is no way to know. happened at the southerners had achieved their breakthrough. the window of opportunity on the night of july 2 was brief. here, let's get to this fella. come on. sorry. william goldsborough, major with battalion,aryland part of stuart's brigade that took that lower hill. i'm sorry. you think i was in a technician. look at that face. severalough was one of that thought they did have an opportunity. insaid there were no troops my median front that night, so i was convinced. the captain reported back to me that he it seen wagons, a full moon that night, union wagons in motion. we were not only on their flank, but the rear of the enemies right. tos information i departed general edward johnson. there are a couple of different accounts that very. goldsborough wrote an account in ,900 that said edward j

now, just before mcdowell moves south, stonewall jackson will kick up his heels in the shenandoah valley. as a result, union troops will be sent to the shenandoah shally and the military situation changes. in the fall of 1862 it's now under a new commander. a man who is today not known for hi generalship but his whiskers. he had these chops called side burns. they took his name and inverted it. that's what we remember burnside for now. he comes back with men on crossing the river, attacking robert e. lee. when that takes place chatham is going to come under the union army's control and it's going to be used as a headquarters by several different officers. before the battle it was used by orlando wilcox. during the battle itself it's going to be the headquarters of general edward sumner. it's sumner's troops crossing the river and attack the confederates at the infamous stone wall where they will be slaughtered. sumner is in this building directing the movement of his troops while they're doing that. after the battle is over, in fact, even before the battle is over they're going to start

but they've been plagued by the shadow of having killed stonewall jackson accidentally a year earlier. they're already putting up a defense against a feeble assault by ambrose burnside. they're holding off burnside like this and suddenly, where did you come from? and they're having to do a two-front defense but labor's men hold. bearny's men come up out of that swale and hit the tip and begin sweeping in this direction. their attack is so overwhelming they wipe confederate units right off the map. some of the most storied, hardest fighting veterans in the army. hayes louisiana tigers, gone. as they keep sweeping this way, the stonewall brigade, gone. james walker, stonewall jim to his men trying to rally the stonewall brigade is shot down. and his efforts to try to stem the tide. but nothing can stop the federals as they finally get down to about where upton had his break through two days earlier. there they're finally stopped by the men of junius daniels. daniels is shot through the bowels and will die. but his men will hold. but now robert e. lee has a hole in his line a half a mile

it does not say anything against presbyterians, because i am sure stonewall jackson was a famous presbyterian. the fact that you had a divine or predestined, whether you are going to be victorious or you were going to lose on the field make peopleidn't sit around and wait for it to happen. in essence, what filters through mcclellan's mind is the doctrine of predestination. whatever happens was divinely ordained. he won a battle, it was him. but if he lost, it was not him. and it just created enormous -- susan: how did he account for in action? candice hooper: he was waiting for a sign. [laughter] candice hooper: that is the always thing i can imagine, he was waiting for a sign. susan: lincoln finally got frustrated and fired him. the amazing thing is you been challenged him for the presidency. -- he then challenged him for the presidency. and she encouraged him. candice hooper: fremont and mcclellan ran against lincoln in the 1864 campaign. jesse maneuvers her husband out of it, but mcclellan was the democratic candidate for president against lincoln in the 1864 campaign. and you know, whatev

lee and stonewall jackson. next a meeting in response of removing the flags from the windows. a panel talks about the flag's history in relation to slavery.