megan hayes and stuart stevens.erday, my colleagues over the weekend interviewed the president of the heritage foundation, and just listen to his answer when he was asked if heritage would accept the results of 2024 election. watch this. >> is your organization going to accept the results of the 2024 election regardless of the outcome? >> yes, if there is a massive fraud. >> what does that mean? >> there was not massive fraud. >> we have a database that is documented that over years. >> just to be clear, that database he is talking about includes just over 1500 proven instances of voter fraud since 1982. just putting that out there. stuart, why can't he just say yes? >> because they don't believe in democracy. it isn't complicated. this is weatherly put in so much. look, the heritage foundation was and sadly still is sort of intellectual beating heart of the republican party. their voting party has become an autocratic movement. what he gave is the same answer you would give in russia. the same answer -- it's even w

and stuart stevens is joining us, he is a veteran of five republican presidential campaigns.ute square, a pro- democracy media platform. he was the author of it was all a lie, how the republican party became donald trump. and stuart, i would like to begin with you. i referred to you on the other side of this commercial break as the person who ran the last sane republican presidential campaign, which was, of course, 2012 with matt romney. you have been around that panic vibe before. i mean, you remember 1992 with bill clinton, as i described what we saw when the ■çaccess hollywood video broke. people were pulling endorsements from donald trump that day, within minutes. within hours. we are not anywhere near that in terms of public officials, public endorsements with joe biden. but you've seen all this before. what you make of it? >> look, i think you always ask yourself in campaigns, would you rather be my guy or the other guy? i would rather be joe biden in this race. i don't think any of the structure of the race change last night. and i think we are seeing that in the polls

vaughn, claire and stuart stevens all back with us.official side. will any of the sails be trimmed in terms of the questions asked and the kind of answers pursued? >> so i think they'll cover the normal topics that they would cover, your background, your medical history, mental health, financials, which should be an interesting part of the report. and then they'll ask questions about the offense conduct. it will be interesting to see whether he really engages and how much he speaks to that if at all because he's not -- obviously he's disputing the facts that came out at trial and is claiming he's innocent. but it does make sense to me, i'm not surprised at all that todd blanche is participating in this. you saw what happens when there's no teleprompter. you know, he will go off the rails. and so wanting to make sure his client doesn't get himself into any deeper legal jeopardy, he's there to make sure he stays on message, which their attempt in this interview is to really try and paint the most, you know, glowing picture you can of the

built crystal director of defending democracy together and editor at large of the bulwark and stuart stevens, senior advisor to the lincoln project she also wrote the book the conspiracy to end america, gentlemen, great to have you here, stewart, i read your piece in the new york times today you said that you're baffled by why democrats are panicking about president biden after that debate really yeah, look, i mean, this is kinda crazy to me. the question is, is joe biden up to being president? don't we have a big test. he has been president. he is president. he's one of the most successful presidents of the modern era. it just seems sort of ridiculous. she, one guy, he has a bad night when knighton, you ego. okay. we're going to wipe away all this evidence that we have in the past years because i just make a point that the big complaint that a lot of us have the overarching complaint is that donald trump is zaraa terrion who doesn't respect to will of the voters. okay. i think that's true. what does it say that millions and millions and millions of voters voted to nominate joe biden. and no

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stuart stevens. and a producer on the rachel maddow show.ucer of the blog and the author of the imposters. thank you to both of you for joining us. i want to let viewers know i'm on my way to canada to talk about my new book. i have several events in june. join me in calgary tomorrow at the word fest festival at the grand theater. and for those of you in toronto, i will be there on monday. i will be in vancouver on thursday and tickets are available. you can follow me on social media and the details will be there. thank you for watching. you can catch me back here next saturday and sunday. the show is also available as a podcast. you can listen wherever you get podcasts, and you can find our best interviews on youtube. stay tuned. inside with jen psaki begins now. >>> this is revealing something darker. we will break down what happened this week and what happens next.>>> and the verdict would not have been possible without the central witness. we will talk about the attacks against her client. and the last time i sat down with james coney, h

former republicans stuart stevens said democrats should stop panicking writing in the new york times,hemselves to do what mr. biden did for their old boss. cover his back and fight." and to our msnbc political analyst to discuss and host of the fast politics podcast and former press secretary to vp nominee paul ryan. ■ç so good to have you in the house. brandon, what are they doing? i mean, how hard is it to stand by your man in the face of the assault that they know is coming and has come from republicans and a sort of rally around? what is your assessment of not only what you saw thursday night but the reaction afterwards? and how does that hurt their efforts going forward? >> i think rallying around makes sense it wasn't his 90 bad minutes. it was the worst debate anyone has ever seen that reveals very deep-seated problems that they have. a candidate who is clearly not just walking into some rhetorical trap and having a bad night. he showed what we have ■çseen f a very long time. this is a person who has significant cognitive issues that they have been lying to us about for a very

stuart stevens, thank you for your time. that is our show for tonight.way too early" is coming up next. >>> a live look at washington, d.c. on this juneteenth, the federal holiday that commemorates the end of slavery here in the united states. we'll go through the historical and political significance of this day. and it comes as the country is remembering a

stuart stevens, thank you so much for your time. that is our show for tonight.th lawrence o'donnell. good evening. >> i just realized we have three senate candidates joining us tonight. sheldon whitehouse and from delaware,

stuart stevens, thank you so much for your time. that is our show for tonight. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening. >> i just realized we have three senate candidates joining us tonight. sheldon whitehouse and from delaware, all running for the united states senate. so they will all have the chance to talk to voters tonight. >> that is a good looking. someone did you very well. >> thank you. >> have a good night. stack at the end of this hour we have to say our final farewell to willie mays, who sadly died tonight at the age of 93. the stock market hit record highs again today. something that the religion called trumpism insists is impossible because in the last presidential campaign, donald trump promised this. >> if he is elected, the stock market will crash. >> trumpism depends on stupidity. it has to because donald trump is so profoundly stupid himself. it is impossible to get stupidity out of trumpism. there was once a time when i could tell you that every republican united states senator knew donald trump was lying when h

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thank you so much i want to turn now to turn out to stuart stevens. he was a top strategies for mitt romney. of course you remember in 20 for his 2012 presidential campaign, it's good to see you. you are the republican here telling those democrats out there that, are freaking out to actually calm down. tell me why looks i think in that campaign you always ask yourself, would you rather be my guy? >> the other guy? i'd rather be joe button and do three. i mean, there's a certain kind of craziness that's going on here. i'm a guy who is a convicted felon who has been found liable of sexual assault to the judge called rape, who is out there saying that america is a third world country and then the colon for him to get out of the race. maybe she shows how trump has succeeded in moving the standards here. but i don't think that most america perkins look across the country and see the same country that donald trump was describing last night. this hellscape of violence like a mad max movie. and we should be ashamed of our country when i think that's just comp

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. ♪ stuart: big tech, one loser, nvidia, 3%, the rest are winners, apple, microsoft, amazon, alphabet moving up. my next guest is the ceo doctor stevenf covid. and hearing you said the probability that covid came from nature is wanting a billion. why are you so certain covid came from the lab? >> six different ways. it is spreading around the world. 1100 animals tested in the supply-chain. 30 people on the market, none of the vendors, the virus was ancestral. the virus in humans, number 3, in the fall showing a major catastrophic event. being put in charge of the lab. it is a smoking gun. 7 features not found in nature, a 1 billion probability it came from a lab. number 5. if you look at what was going on in the laboratory at that time you see all of this activity and a 2,018 grant identified seven features a virus, all of those from sars 2. no evidence it didn't come from the lab. we are talking about this shows the power of the cover-up four years out and only now is this cover up cracking. stuart: a cover-up. did doctor fauci cover up the origins of covid? >> the way i put it is in january 2020, when health providers should of inf