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ned, your initial thoughts on this susan rice bombshell. >> i have been calling for the house intelligence committee to bring her up on the hill to testify under oath. did sue and rice and her deputy ben rhodes follow n $sa protoc protocol -- nsa protocol? i have been advocating this for months. the trump administration and the gop need to go back on this. it could be bigger than watergate. charles: betsy, how do you see it? >> i have seen reports her testimony will be in a closed session. so it won't be as re revalatorys comey's testimony was. how that information gets used. what kind of accountability government officials have. the foreign surveillance intelligence act is up for renewal this year. susan rice's role in this issue is central. charles: we are watching president trump and the first lady as they await president moon from south korea. there is a lot going on in that korean peninsula. charles: from the comey testimony and the thing he said about loretta lynch to susan rice, even if it's behind closed doors, a major step toward discovery of what's going on. >> i have been callin
ned, your initial thoughts on this susan rice bombshell. >> i have been calling for the house intelligence committee to bring her up on the hill to testify under oath. did sue and rice and her deputy ben rhodes follow n $sa protoc protocol -- nsa protocol? i have been advocating this for months. the trump administration and the gop need to go back on this. it could be bigger than watergate. charles: betsy, how do you see it? >> i have seen reports her testimony will be in a closed...
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susan rice, john brennan and samantha power. inclusion of samantha power has raised some red flags. judge andrew napolitano said this. >> should've had nothing to do with this unless it was for political purposes, so the unmasking is a below the radar screen crisis. occurred at the tail end of the obama administration when they began to fear hey, donald trump might win. >> eboni: michael, i appreciate the judge's enthusiasm. we all know unmasking is not a legal and we the definition, it's a subjective standard. i think that's what's frustrating. eric, you point out how dangerous it is. all anybody has to say is susan rice, she said she needed to know who these people are. where is the crime? >> michael: we have political warfare in this country and we had it for decades. it's only now that the right has started fighting the left, yesterday was having awful comedian with the horrible cartoon. >> eboni: who? >> michael: kathy lee gifford i think. when the corporate press thinks it's her problem, when -- they have to be held with t
susan rice, john brennan and samantha power. inclusion of samantha power has raised some red flags. judge andrew napolitano said this. >> should've had nothing to do with this unless it was for political purposes, so the unmasking is a below the radar screen crisis. occurred at the tail end of the obama administration when they began to fear hey, donald trump might win. >> eboni: michael, i appreciate the judge's enthusiasm. we all know unmasking is not a legal and we the...
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. >> bill: fox news alert, and others were coming that former national security advisor susan rice had to testify under oath about allegations of unmasking of names and intel reports. rice has been under fire for her alleged role in revealing the name to trump associates during the election. for her part, she's done nothing wrong. more on this in a few moments inside a "america's newsroom." another alert now on a friday morning, the breaking development over president trump's top priorities, number one the travel ban limiting trade to the u.s. from six muslim majorities is no effect. how will that affect us? meanwhile, health care reform facing an uncertain fate on capitol hill. senate republican trying to find a -- i am bill hemmer, split broadcast prefrontal trip this week, i am bill comer live in washington and shannon, how are you doing? >> shannon: i am doing great as we go into this holiday we can live from new york. president trump applying new pressure to senate republicans to get something done on health care. this morning, if republican senators are unable to pass what they a
. >> bill: fox news alert, and others were coming that former national security advisor susan rice had to testify under oath about allegations of unmasking of names and intel reports. rice has been under fire for her alleged role in revealing the name to trump associates during the election. for her part, she's done nothing wrong. more on this in a few moments inside a "america's newsroom." another alert now on a friday morning, the breaking development over president trump's...
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it was president trump at the white house in april who said that these charges that susan rice was involvedunmasking trump advisors was a massive story that much of the media was ignoring, as you say now, rice is firing back that this is an allegation that she says was made up out of whole cloth. she strongly suggests her race and gender played a role in the heat she faced, dating back to benghazi. rice choosing to air this claim and the friendly venue of the new york magazine profile in which the former national security advisor suggests other obama aides got close scrutiny because they were right. she says at one point, "why me, why not the press secretary who stood up more? she asked. she added, she doesn't know for a center gender is the reason before, well, invoking it. "i don't lead to the simple explanation that it is only race and gender, i'm trying to keep my theories to myself until i'm ready to come out with them. it's not because i don't have any." now, she left out of that the major factor that sparked a central role in benghazi, of course, when she misled the public and five s
it was president trump at the white house in april who said that these charges that susan rice was involvedunmasking trump advisors was a massive story that much of the media was ignoring, as you say now, rice is firing back that this is an allegation that she says was made up out of whole cloth. she strongly suggests her race and gender played a role in the heat she faced, dating back to benghazi. rice choosing to air this claim and the friendly venue of the new york magazine profile in which...
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there's a lot of politics in play. >> i don't think susan rice was good for the job she was in.t agree with that whatsoever. i don't question her clearance. she was cleared. no problem. it's been revealed that she requested more unmasking of names and with a greater volume after the election. julie: i'm just saying do not give security clearance to someone that you think the russians are going to use to blackmail the united states. i mean, what? >> there's no question. julie: yeah, no. anyway, congressman, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you, have a great day. julie: so fun, kelly. kelly: antitrump protestors are rallying nation hide the march for truth. coming up the answers they're seeking. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. usaa gives me the and the security just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love t
there's a lot of politics in play. >> i don't think susan rice was good for the job she was in.t agree with that whatsoever. i don't question her clearance. she was cleared. no problem. it's been revealed that she requested more unmasking of names and with a greater volume after the election. julie: i'm just saying do not give security clearance to someone that you think the russians are going to use to blackmail the united states. i mean, what? >> there's no question. julie: yeah,...
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in a include for form -- susan rice. john brennan, samantha power, all of these officials seeking to unmask the names of trump campaign officials, the come i -- committee seeking classified documents from the agents, so far the committee has met nothing but resis stanlt froresistance from the agent, james rose we rosen with our report. reporter: fbi concerned they were served with sou supervisorinas, each named as figures of interest three senior obama era officials, former "house" national security adviser susan rice was dedicated last month. rice at the time denied wrong doing and told us today she is unaware of subpoenas directed at her, and john bron an was also named in the declineys of in the land. brennan declined our request for comment, the soup en' naimi of samantha power, she is a former. >> she served in barack obama senate office before joining his administration. they are now devoting greater scrutiny to power, they don't to see her roll. contacted by fox news, power declined to come, today's disclose use w
in a include for form -- susan rice. john brennan, samantha power, all of these officials seeking to unmask the names of trump campaign officials, the come i -- committee seeking classified documents from the agents, so far the committee has met nothing but resis stanlt froresistance from the agent, james rose we rosen with our report. reporter: fbi concerned they were served with sou supervisorinas, each named as figures of interest three senior obama era officials, former "house"...
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it's not just susan rice. it's the others.'d like to know, quite frankly, in the president's presidential briefing every day what information was provided to him about fisa court requests and unmasking. >> eric: here's what's important. when you lean on susan rice, maybe she did not leak. when she gets a little nervous, when you start tightening the dragon around her, she will tell us who actually leak. >> eboni: i don't think so. >> eric: someone's going to jail. you can't do it. somebody committed a felony. >> they will find some low-level patsy and hang it on them. >> i wish these members of congress were smart enough to do that. they aren't smart enough. and she took them tasked to tha that. >> eboni: up next, the firestorm between president trump and msnbc host. even with allegations of blackmail. stay with us. ♪ that's cool. i got a new helmet. we know steve. switching to allstate is worth it. the toothpaste that helps new parodontax. prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum probl
it's not just susan rice. it's the others.'d like to know, quite frankly, in the president's presidential briefing every day what information was provided to him about fisa court requests and unmasking. >> eric: here's what's important. when you lean on susan rice, maybe she did not leak. when she gets a little nervous, when you start tightening the dragon around her, she will tell us who actually leak. >> eboni: i don't think so. >> eric: someone's going to jail. you can't do...
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among those asked to testify covers security adviser susan rice. john brennan and u.n.ador samantha power. president trump will announce his decision on the involvement of the united states in the paris climate agreement today. trump expected to pull the united states out of the deal. labor has to fill another top executive position. the head of finance at a group that is saving the company in july. the departure comes as the first-quarter loss of $708 million. check in the u.s. stock ahead of their opening bell. in the last couple of moments, s&p, nasdaq to the grade. that is what is happening now. lauren. transfer we are joined by prosecutor david berger right here. and repeat, former u.s. intelligence officer. i want to begin with you. we're expecting to hear testimonies from james called me next week. you say on the obstruction of justice issue there is one question that needs to be asked. that question is did obama ever discuss an fbi investigation? >> yeah, let's understand what happened in the prior administration. i would bet president obama had conversations ab
among those asked to testify covers security adviser susan rice. john brennan and u.n.ador samantha power. president trump will announce his decision on the involvement of the united states in the paris climate agreement today. trump expected to pull the united states out of the deal. labor has to fill another top executive position. the head of finance at a group that is saving the company in july. the departure comes as the first-quarter loss of $708 million. check in the u.s. stock ahead of...
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catch-up. >> bill: fox news alert, and others were coming that former national security advisor susan riceon a friday morning, the breaking development over president trump's top priorities, number one the travel ban limiting trade to the u.s. from six muslim majorities is no effect. how will that affect us?
catch-up. >> bill: fox news alert, and others were coming that former national security advisor susan riceon a friday morning, the breaking development over president trump's top priorities, number one the travel ban limiting trade to the u.s. from six muslim majorities is no effect. how will that affect us?
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been sort of ho-hum news, but when we saw that it included the nsa, the fbi, the cia, it included susan rice, powers, brennan, people became giddy with excitement that perhaps we will get to the truth finally. in responding to requestsvery for information regarding those foreign intelligence surveillance activityings. charles: i also hear the nsa is not exactly, you know, cooperating that much either. what do you make of it then? going back to the end of president obama, former president obama's term where he allowed -- he gave the power for so many people to be able to do this. obviously, creating an atmosphere where leaks became so much more possible. really rewrite history as to how the obama administration is viewed. charles: real quick, matthew, i want to get your thoughts of a report i saw in "the new york post" that journalists are now being surveilled to help find out where these leaks are possibly coming from. first, your thoughts on the legality of that, and do you would be a lot of concern trying to figure out where these leaks are coming from. charles: matthew whitaker, thank
been sort of ho-hum news, but when we saw that it included the nsa, the fbi, the cia, it included susan rice, powers, brennan, people became giddy with excitement that perhaps we will get to the truth finally. in responding to requestsvery for information regarding those foreign intelligence surveillance activityings. charles: i also hear the nsa is not exactly, you know, cooperating that much either. what do you make of it then? going back to the end of president obama, former president...
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did susan rice -- >> is she of interest to you? >> it's not clear to me what she may or may not know. i will say this about unmasking. it is a word that sounds ominous. it's something that happens every single day on the part of senior administration officials when they need to look at a masked u.s. person's name to understand the intelligence they are looking at. of course, it's something we take seriously here. you are, in fact, exposing a u.s. person's name to a senior official. as a result, that is surrounded by lawyers, audited by inspector generals. there are those making allegations if susan rice may have unmasked something. maybe she did. the question is was it unproper? i have no reason to believe it is. she has aggressively denied she did any improper unmasking. my guess is that's what the conversation is going to revolve around. >> chairman nunez, who kind of stepped aside from the investigation, will he be participating in the interview with susan rice? >> i would be surprised if that's the case. again, i have been list
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susan rice has admitted that she did unmask when she said that she hadn't. a big deal because this is supposed to protect american citizens from foreign operatives who wish to do us harm. if there talking to americans and their names are revealed, it ultimately does them harm. >> trish: it feels very banana republic to me. this feels like something a government and south america would be pulling. this is not something that the united states government should be doing, not the kind of behavior you would expect of our leaders to be engaging in. this unmasking is very scary because this is all about them trying to influence who is actually running the country and a way that i think is very detrimental to our foundation and who we are. this is not right and this could turn out to be a very scary situation. >> kennedy: how many agencies can share information, it doesn't matter who your party is, what your gender is. it's wrong, it's a violation of civil liberties and we have to keep an eye on it. they are not offering tips on spicing things up in the boudoir, "co
susan rice has admitted that she did unmask when she said that she hadn't. a big deal because this is supposed to protect american citizens from foreign operatives who wish to do us harm. if there talking to americans and their names are revealed, it ultimately does them harm. >> trish: it feels very banana republic to me. this feels like something a government and south america would be pulling. this is not something that the united states government should be doing, not the kind of...
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. >> bret: there are subpoenas out for the house intelligence committee for susan rice, john brennan,antha power, the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations about this unmasking issue. this is the democrat of the house until committee questioning all of this. >> i don't know what the chairman had this in mind because we weren't consulted and why the chairman is picking these three people apart aside from the fact that they were part of the obama administration. if susan rice has been a perennial target for whatever reason, but again, we have a very little insight into what the chairman is doing here and i think the only guidance we can get is what we hear coming out of the white house. if this is what the white house wants to see happen, they would rather be talking about these issues. >> bret: were back with the panel, the coverage of this is a long -- track, not really the substance of the unmasking. >> when you're looking at the actual things that are going on with these investigations, we do have evidence of crimes, leaked u.s. persons information to end plays a big part of
. >> bret: there are subpoenas out for the house intelligence committee for susan rice, john brennan,antha power, the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations about this unmasking issue. this is the democrat of the house until committee questioning all of this. >> i don't know what the chairman had this in mind because we weren't consulted and why the chairman is picking these three people apart aside from the fact that they were part of the obama administration. if susan rice...
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why won't susan rice talk? >> bret: hillary clinton is obviously convinced of the linkage, the collusion, even though there's not evidence that we've seen. she talked about it at length today about the linkage and she believes the trump campaign is there. here are former clinton cia director and former obama cia director. "there's a lot of things i've seen, i think have been disclosed too much. the real scandal here, makes it hard for the secrecy that's essential for the operation of the u.s. government. i think people who have broken these tacit informal agreements taking classified information attorney lids are basically traitors to the country." then you have michael morel and the obama administration, acting cia director about the kushner story on "the washington post" " just a perspective of two former democratic cia directors. >> democratic is the keyword. they are not partisans. what they are speaking for is the institutions, and they are basically saying you might have a romantic notion. being a deep th
why won't susan rice talk? >> bret: hillary clinton is obviously convinced of the linkage, the collusion, even though there's not evidence that we've seen. she talked about it at length today about the linkage and she believes the trump campaign is there. here are former clinton cia director and former obama cia director. "there's a lot of things i've seen, i think have been disclosed too much. the real scandal here, makes it hard for the secrecy that's essential for the operation of...
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we don't know whether or not susan rice did anything wrong or not.ure out. >> a number of people said she didn't on both sides of the aisle. >> the bottom line is the documents haven't been produced and it's a serious allegation. prejudicial views are not having her lie about benghazi. what she said about benghazi is not true. she wonders why she is the center of the concern is because of her own actions. >> shannon: there are multiple ongoing investigations and requests for information from her and others. my understanding thus far she will not participate and take part in this. could she clear up some of those things about why unmasking was done and where leaks came from. if she goes on the record does it help her case? >> i believe it does. we talked about it a few weeks ago on this program where she should appear. the issue she wasn't given enough time to prepare and felt like it was partisan motivated. she got the request only from the republicans on the committee and not the democrats as well. but i think in these very trying times and while de
we don't know whether or not susan rice did anything wrong or not.ure out. >> a number of people said she didn't on both sides of the aisle. >> the bottom line is the documents haven't been produced and it's a serious allegation. prejudicial views are not having her lie about benghazi. what she said about benghazi is not true. she wonders why she is the center of the concern is because of her own actions. >> shannon: there are multiple ongoing investigations and requests for...
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this is something that susan rice has adamantly denied and said she has done nothing withdrawn. people who have reviewed say she has done nothing wrong. she has agreed to testify behind closed doors as part of the investigation and the house side which is ramping up as they try to interview a number of high profile witnesses next month not only susan rice but roger stone and both trump advisers who agreed to talk to the committee in the coming weeks. >> they will be very busy. thanks very much. we are hearing new rumblings that senate leaders are not likely to draft compromise bill by tomorrow as hoped. let's go to ryan nobles up on capitol hill. we are learning more about the senate's plans impact on medicaid, as well. >> a new addition to the congressional budget office's report was released today. it predicts that medicaid funding will slow by 35% by 2036. it does gont eas far as to predict how many will come off the health insurance roles. this report comes as senate republicans continue to haggle over this legislation. tonight the white house is taking a more active role in
this is something that susan rice has adamantly denied and said she has done nothing withdrawn. people who have reviewed say she has done nothing wrong. she has agreed to testify behind closed doors as part of the investigation and the house side which is ramping up as they try to interview a number of high profile witnesses next month not only susan rice but roger stone and both trump advisers who agreed to talk to the committee in the coming weeks. >> they will be very busy. thanks very...
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to the news that susan rice, who was asked to testify and said no to that senate intel committee, willow do so before the house committee. >> i'm glad that susan is going to show up. i think congress wants to hear exactly what happened. it's kind of interesting that we are at the point where lindsay graham, you've got rand paul, cannot get an answer to a very simple question. were they targeted, where they unmasked, hopefully we get answers to those questions. hopefully we also get better insight into exactly what the russians were planning to do in the 2016 election. we haven't heard that much. >> martha: it's two parts of two important elements. we need understand why they were on masse, if it was proper sheep claim, we need to -- if it's for some other reason, it's not. >> that's true. i think president trump created the pressure for susan rice to testify when he suggested that the unmasking is the real story, not what's going on with russia. >> martha: if the only illegality we know of so far. >> it's not illegal. >> martha: it's not illegal. >> it's illegal if you do it for politi
to the news that susan rice, who was asked to testify and said no to that senate intel committee, willow do so before the house committee. >> i'm glad that susan is going to show up. i think congress wants to hear exactly what happened. it's kind of interesting that we are at the point where lindsay graham, you've got rand paul, cannot get an answer to a very simple question. were they targeted, where they unmasked, hopefully we get answers to those questions. hopefully we also get better...
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they are seeking documents from john brennan, susan rice and samantha power.hose subpoenas related to allegations the obama administration improperly unmasked names of american citizens. joining us now to talk about it marie harf, and pete hoekstra. former house intelligence committee chairman. welcome to you both. all right. so we have two different sets of subpoenas. a group of them were pushed by the ranking member schiff, those are more toward the russia probe but the three that go to the intelligence agencies. the first question i have marie, to you, why would ambassador samantha power, a diplomat, be asking for unmasking? >> we'll see what the facts are here. i don't know why these people are sub aoen add and we'll see what that information shows. policymakers and national security officials, foreign policy officials need more information about these intelligence reports in order to do their jobs defending the foreign policy of the united states. i don't know the facts behind this. but i feel fairly confident when i served in the administration people we
they are seeking documents from john brennan, susan rice and samantha power.hose subpoenas related to allegations the obama administration improperly unmasked names of american citizens. joining us now to talk about it marie harf, and pete hoekstra. former house intelligence committee chairman. welcome to you both. all right. so we have two different sets of subpoenas. a group of them were pushed by the ranking member schiff, those are more toward the russia probe but the three that go to the...
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at the end of the day, samantha powers, clapper, susan rice, they could come up with nothing. the group of people being subpoenaed have far more checkered histories, one could argue. michael flynn, michael cohen. they're not peers of samantha power. >> well, they're totally different parties, first of all. >> yes. >> i don't want to pay you $2, so it is unprecedented we have this going on right now. i think nunez is actually trying to get to the bottom of what is going on. however, the timing of this is very concerning and it should not have been done in a freelance position. if any official, be it any administration, unmasks somebody for some sort of political motive, that is absolutely unacceptable. i think that nunez really needs to explain why he did it now, of all times, and why the president put out a tweet just the same morning that he did it. is he still colluding with the white house? >> ithe a chance it could blow up in his face though if they subpoena samantha power, susan rice, et cetera? if they were unmasking tied to bad behavior that members of the trump campaig
at the end of the day, samantha powers, clapper, susan rice, they could come up with nothing. the group of people being subpoenaed have far more checkered histories, one could argue. michael flynn, michael cohen. they're not peers of samantha power. >> well, they're totally different parties, first of all. >> yes. >> i don't want to pay you $2, so it is unprecedented we have this going on right now. i think nunez is actually trying to get to the bottom of what is going on....
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ainsley: condoleezza rice how do you think she was treated because susan rice said she took the same it worse. do you agree with that? >> i don't know off hand to be honest. i think that condoleezza rice, when we look at portrayals of her in international media, in u.s. media, calling her a raven and, you know, the whole military boots thing, the secretary of state of the united states had to defend a fashion choice that was actually a really fierce one, i think that looking at the way women are boxed in and the way that appearance and sue per plus things actually have to be discussed at all is something that we really should be advancing beyond. ainsley: you know, camille, i can understand when you are talking about gender when you don't get equal pay and dhifned thing. when she didn't do her job and she lies over and over and over at the national level on national television to all of us and people died in benghazi, why does it have to be about sexism? why does it have to be about racism? why can't it just be on the facts and her record? >> i think speculating about racism and gende
ainsley: condoleezza rice how do you think she was treated because susan rice said she took the same it worse. do you agree with that? >> i don't know off hand to be honest. i think that condoleezza rice, when we look at portrayals of her in international media, in u.s. media, calling her a raven and, you know, the whole military boots thing, the secretary of state of the united states had to defend a fashion choice that was actually a really fierce one, i think that looking at the way...
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speaking of susan rice, she was caught in another lie. remember when she said this?we did blow the whistle on october 7th and that came as soon as the intelligence community, 17 agencies, came to a consensus was involved as an effort to play in the electoral process. rob: the new york times issuing a correction about their fake news claim that all 17 us intelligence agencies agreed the russians did hack the 2016 election, these are big stories that are being taken back and retracted. this is hundreds of journalists walking out in protest. and in an effort to save money. >> two police officers fighting for their lives after a traffic stop turned into a gunfight. >> immediately coming under fire. the officers able to fight back killing one suspect taken into custody, one of those officers is in grave condition, and nine year veterans of the force. did you hear about venus williams? she is at fault for a car crash that left an elderly man dead. this police report shows williams cut in front of another car when she drove through an intersection near her home in palm beac
speaking of susan rice, she was caught in another lie. remember when she said this?we did blow the whistle on october 7th and that came as soon as the intelligence community, 17 agencies, came to a consensus was involved as an effort to play in the electoral process. rob: the new york times issuing a correction about their fake news claim that all 17 us intelligence agencies agreed the russians did hack the 2016 election, these are big stories that are being taken back and retracted. this is...
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the subpoena specifically named susan rice, samantha, and john. tweeting quote the big story is the unmasking and surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration. fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano joins me now and, you know, if there's something there, if, that's scary stuff. >> well, if there's something there, meaning unmasking, the revelation of a person whose communication has been captured by the intelligence community and used for political purposes, we have a very, very serious threat to the republic. so unmasking is only illegal if it's done for the wrong purpose and given to the wrong people. so if susan rice needs to know with whom citizen x is speaking in russia, and she needs to know the name of that person, she's entitled to know it, as long as she uses it for intelligence purposes. but if she uses it for political purposes, or she is unmasking citizen x talking to citizen x and has nothing to do with national security, then we have a very, very serious threat to the integrity of the repub
the subpoena specifically named susan rice, samantha, and john. tweeting quote the big story is the unmasking and surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration. fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano joins me now and, you know, if there's something there, if, that's scary stuff. >> well, if there's something there, meaning unmasking, the revelation of a person whose communication has been captured by the intelligence community and used for...
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susan rice, john brennan, samantha power. the president tweeted earlier today...e's right over the target. joining us with reaction, sara carter and john solomon. unappealing layers of an onion here. now this is a big one that has been peeled away. >> what we wanted to do with follow the facts. the documentation. i think with the house intelligence committee is doing is the same thing. they are looking at what are they unmasking and why? with this all related to necessary foreign intelligence that they needed to know or were they unmasking other people? this is what we don't know yet. what we suspect is for other people are being unmasked. devin nunes who spoke a little bit about it, peter king and others who have had some knowledge about what is in those documents. i think that is what is so important here. what were they unmasking and why? those are the answers we need in order to understand the gravity of this. >> sean: we've got to also put this in context, john. this is all part of your reporting as well. this is seen through the prism of an election cycle, 2
susan rice, john brennan, samantha power. the president tweeted earlier today...e's right over the target. joining us with reaction, sara carter and john solomon. unappealing layers of an onion here. now this is a big one that has been peeled away. >> what we wanted to do with follow the facts. the documentation. i think with the house intelligence committee is doing is the same thing. they are looking at what are they unmasking and why? with this all related to necessary foreign...
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it was not just susan rice, it was cia director, and john brennan, attorney general loretta lynch, veryhe question that i have, i want to know when did they send all of these documents over to the library? that's what i am concerned about. a day trying to hide this from the american people? these are actual federal documents, i assume that there is a lot of concern here. >> sean: tom just told us why. >> what about the intelligence committee? >> sean: shipped them out quick, right? so much investigative work on all of these issues, mueller, rosenstein, comey, investigative creek. i agree with you, mueller needs to be recused, comey needs to be looked into for crimes, hillary clinton investigated, rosenstein recused, it never happens. they dig deeper because they cannot get russia-trump collusion. >> because they are not losing themselves, you have to wonder why? is there reason other than the law and the statutes, so forth? is this a vendetta? is it retribution or revenge for the firing of james comey? because comey and mueller are best friends, are they now acting in collusion to bring
it was not just susan rice, it was cia director, and john brennan, attorney general loretta lynch, veryhe question that i have, i want to know when did they send all of these documents over to the library? that's what i am concerned about. a day trying to hide this from the american people? these are actual federal documents, i assume that there is a lot of concern here. >> sean: tom just told us why. >> what about the intelligence committee? >> sean: shipped them out quick,...
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fox news confirmed there are three others for the obama administration officials, susan rice from theector john brennan and samantha pour. what do -- power. what do you think it means in terms of the unmasking? >> unmasking is letting out who you have intercepted communications from even if it was an accident. for example, the cia or nsa can't basically randomly spy on americans but sometimes if you're spying on a russian, diplomat, you'll pick up a conversation with an american and then in the document that is are put together the name of the american is masked, blacked out in some face but then if you go further and you unmask and you show it to that to people who don't have clearances or don't have a need to know, you for whatever reason, political or whatever you've done a very bad and daughters-in-law thing from the point of classified information. dagen: as a diplomat what business does she have requesting the unmasking of individuals? how often did it happen? who were the trump officials, what was the justification of it in. >> those are all great questions. i don't know. i've
fox news confirmed there are three others for the obama administration officials, susan rice from theector john brennan and samantha pour. what do -- power. what do you think it means in terms of the unmasking? >> unmasking is letting out who you have intercepted communications from even if it was an accident. for example, the cia or nsa can't basically randomly spy on americans but sometimes if you're spying on a russian, diplomat, you'll pick up a conversation with an american and then...
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susan rice has been a tar fet for the gop for whatever reason. we have very little insight into what the chairman is doing here. i think the only guidance we can get is that we hear coming out of the white house. this is what the white house wants to see happen. they'd rather be talking about these issues. again, the intelligence agencies have been cooperating with us. we do oversight all the time of issues of unmasking, so i'm not sure why there was a necessity to issue a subpoena for agencies that are already working with us unless the goal was simply to get publicity or perhaps obskcue the subpoenas. >> you may have seen the president's tweet earlier this morning. he tweeted the big story is the unmasking and surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration. clearly he and devin nunez are on the same page right now. i thought devin nunes had removed himself from the rush vchg investigation. >> clearly the president thinks it relates to the russia investigation. there are a couple issues here. one is that the chairman is s
susan rice has been a tar fet for the gop for whatever reason. we have very little insight into what the chairman is doing here. i think the only guidance we can get is that we hear coming out of the white house. this is what the white house wants to see happen. they'd rather be talking about these issues. again, the intelligence agencies have been cooperating with us. we do oversight all the time of issues of unmasking, so i'm not sure why there was a necessity to issue a subpoena for agencies...
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and former national security adviser susan rice who requested the unmasking. chael flynn and michael cohen. and president trump is already weighing in this morning on twitter saying quote the big story is the unmasking and surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration. guys, no question about the meaning of that tweet. and there's no timeline yet on the testimony of any of those subpoenas. >> very much so. griff, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> so is the mainstream media so eager to take down the president? they're actually helping the russians undermine the u.s.? our next guest says "yes," and he's got the proof. one of the nation's top investigative journalists is on deck. brian: and more winning. what's happening today that the president can check off as another campaign promise fulfilled? we'll explain. ♪ ♪ that's life. you diet. you exercise. and if you still need help lowering your blood sugar... ...this is jardiance. along with diet and exercise... jardiance lowers blood sugar and a1c in adults with type 2 diabetes. jardia
and former national security adviser susan rice who requested the unmasking. chael flynn and michael cohen. and president trump is already weighing in this morning on twitter saying quote the big story is the unmasking and surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration. guys, no question about the meaning of that tweet. and there's no timeline yet on the testimony of any of those subpoenas. >> very much so. griff, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> so is...
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sources are telling us tonight that behind closed doors, susan rice has agreed to testify before thehouse. they have targeted her believing she was involved in so-called unmasking of the identity. in intelligence reports she has denied she has done anything wrong, but she has agreed to testify, jim. and that's going to happen as the committee plans to interview a number of witnesses next month. >> thanks very much. manu raju on the bill. >> out front, the ranking member of the hout intelligence committee, congressman, thanks for taking the time tonight. >> thanks, jim. >> we noticed whachs a strong bipartisan statement from the europeans today saying that the white house response to the question on any potential comey tapes in the words of the statement stopped short of clarifying. i thought this was key, too, threatening compulsory action if your committee doesn't get the answers it wants. are you saying that if you don't get confirmation, you are prepared to subpoena the white house on this question? >> you know, our practice has been we always seek voluntary inspiration from anyon
sources are telling us tonight that behind closed doors, susan rice has agreed to testify before thehouse. they have targeted her believing she was involved in so-called unmasking of the identity. in intelligence reports she has denied she has done anything wrong, but she has agreed to testify, jim. and that's going to happen as the committee plans to interview a number of witnesses next month. >> thanks very much. manu raju on the bill. >> out front, the ranking member of the hout...
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he talks about he wants any information about unmasking requests from samantha power, from susan rice, from john brennan. >> well, as you just heard from phil mattingly's report, i think the nature of how these subpoenas were issued sort of betrays the motivation behind them. so you had four subpoenas that were issued on a bipartisan basis. that tells you that there's a legitimate oversight purpose being served with the issuance of those subpoenas. and then you have three that the republican chairman nunes acted alone in issuing and actually sort of violated his own previous commitment to step back from this investigation. so i think that tells you everything you need to know about the lack of any legitimacy to this. there's been plenty said and plenty of national security experts have explained that even though we don't know yet who might have been responsible for any unmasking that took place in this incident, if, say, someone like susan rice were to have sought it, it would have been entirely appropriate given the nature of what the u.s. government has been concerned about for thes
he talks about he wants any information about unmasking requests from samantha power, from susan rice, from john brennan. >> well, as you just heard from phil mattingly's report, i think the nature of how these subpoenas were issued sort of betrays the motivation behind them. so you had four subpoenas that were issued on a bipartisan basis. that tells you that there's a legitimate oversight purpose being served with the issuance of those subpoenas. and then you have three that the...
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susan rice. john brennan, samantha powers, somebody we didn't expect was going to be in there.the people who were the custodians of the records that were unmasked. fbi, nsa, cia. stuart: can we say the obama team spied on the trump campaign? >> we can say it with absolute certainty. stuart: good lord. so the president was right in that tweet saturday morning? >> yes, yes. stuart: judge, thank you very much indeed, sir, appreciate it. >> you have a great man to your left there. i know ashley's a great man. stuart: can i introduce him myself? [laughter] >> okay. thanks, judge! [laughter]. stuart: the market shows a 22-point gain for the dow industrials. now this. lot of debate recently about tax cuts and whether they produce economic growth. so let's look at the reagan tax cuts and their effect. in january, 1983, tax rates dropped. that was the moment the economy got a shot in the arm. fast-forward to january 1989 when ronald reag left the white house. in those six years, the economy grew at an annual rate of 4.8%. that is fact and that is stunning. joining me now is the aforemen
susan rice. john brennan, samantha powers, somebody we didn't expect was going to be in there.the people who were the custodians of the records that were unmasked. fbi, nsa, cia. stuart: can we say the obama team spied on the trump campaign? >> we can say it with absolute certainty. stuart: good lord. so the president was right in that tweet saturday morning? >> yes, yes. stuart: judge, thank you very much indeed, sir, appreciate it. >> you have a great man to your left there....
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lou: susan rice playing the race and gender cards.has been the victim of racism and sexism because people want to investigate her conduct. asking why me? why not jay carney who was our press secretary. this is a wonderful moment in journalism. here to talk about her claims, kimberly guilfoyle. >> who wants to goinld the bus next, jay? anyone? she is the unmasker and fabricator and went on the sunday news shows and lied and pushed a video and said that's what benghazi was about. lou: she seems to have forgotten all of that. to see that kinds of revision so soon afterwards. we are watching this administration start to have its way. the president now winning and winning big. and it seems that he has turned a very important corner here. and what i worry about is the same time we are watching the republicans in the senate and the house, they are all set to let them die in the senate, including kate's law, which is critically important. another law on sanctuary cities. what should he do? is there much he can do? >> i think he's on the right
lou: susan rice playing the race and gender cards.has been the victim of racism and sexism because people want to investigate her conduct. asking why me? why not jay carney who was our press secretary. this is a wonderful moment in journalism. here to talk about her claims, kimberly guilfoyle. >> who wants to goinld the bus next, jay? anyone? she is the unmasker and fabricator and went on the sunday news shows and lied and pushed a video and said that's what benghazi was about. lou: she...
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susan rice and the blame game over the unmasking of twrum officials.e answers and excused. answers and excused. we are coming right backckckckck drownings are the number one cause of accidental death for young children. simple safety steps are the best way to prevent these tragedies. make sure kids learn how to swim. designate an adult water watcher to watch kids in and around water. save the phone calls and texts for when the kids are out of the water. properly fence all pools with fences at least four feet high and with self-closing, self-latching gates. when above ground pools aren't in use remove the ladders. when pools aren't in use, cover them. teach kids to stay away from drains. and if a child is missing check the pool or spa first. consider the steps you take then add a few more. because you never know which pool safety step will save a life until it does. simple steps save lives to learn some new ones visit poolsafely.gov lou: susan rice playing the race and gender cards. claiming she has been the victim of racism and sexism because people wa
susan rice and the blame game over the unmasking of twrum officials.e answers and excused. answers and excused. we are coming right backckckckck drownings are the number one cause of accidental death for young children. simple safety steps are the best way to prevent these tragedies. make sure kids learn how to swim. designate an adult water watcher to watch kids in and around water. save the phone calls and texts for when the kids are out of the water. properly fence all pools with fences at...
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susan rice, john brennan, and samantha power. president trump tweeted today... that had to do with the russian investigation but the surprise is these four and coming from devon nunez who i thought has taken a step back. >> kimberly: i think this is a huge story. i'm not sure why it hasn't gotten more coverage. i think it's very significant and should grab the attention of all americans in terms of a privacy grab and surveillance. one of the basic things that we hold near to our hearts and deer in this country. we fought for our liberty, our freedoms, our privacy rights. i think it's important they conduct the investigation and really get to the bottom of this. it can be swept away with an inordinate amount of focus. >> juan: what you think, you have jim call me saying his testimony will come next thursday. you have this ongoing effort, it looks like this is the big story, jesse... >> jesse: i think democrats are going to regret these investigations because i think the russian thing is going to hurt them. it's going to backfire. susan rice, john brennan, samanth
susan rice, john brennan, and samantha power. president trump tweeted today... that had to do with the russian investigation but the surprise is these four and coming from devon nunez who i thought has taken a step back. >> kimberly: i think this is a huge story. i'm not sure why it hasn't gotten more coverage. i think it's very significant and should grab the attention of all americans in terms of a privacy grab and surveillance. one of the basic things that we hold near to our hearts...
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stuart: so why is all the publicity about comey and very little about susan rice, samantha power?wer -- who is a diplomat and that's it -- why is she, reportedly, asking for the names of people identified by the nsa? what on earth is going on? >> well, you know, it sounds like mischief, to me. if you look at from the point of view of an investigator, what is her need to know? i mean, you can have classified material given to you if you have the right clearances, but part of the process is that you have to have a need to know. what was her need to know? and the only thing i can think of is for political purposes, and that's not what it's all about. i think it was totally inappropriate not only for her to ask for it, but for the intelligence community to give it to her. that's even more troubling to me than the request. stuart: danny, what is your opinion of fbi director comey before, during and after the election? >> oh, my goodness. i think james comey's a good man. i've had meetings with him within the last couple of months, and i think he's a good man. i think he got off course
stuart: so why is all the publicity about comey and very little about susan rice, samantha power?wer -- who is a diplomat and that's it -- why is she, reportedly, asking for the names of people identified by the nsa? what on earth is going on? >> well, you know, it sounds like mischief, to me. if you look at from the point of view of an investigator, what is her need to know? i mean, you can have classified material given to you if you have the right clearances, but part of the process is...
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if susan rice and u.n. ambassador warned fact making a request of the elegance community that i want to listen to lindsey graham's conversation with the foreign person, that bothers me simply because i'm in a different branch of government. what national security value comes from having someone like susan rice be able to listen into conversations with the lyrical opponents and foreign leaders. pat to me would be be a great abuse of intelligence gathering. the question is did the obama industry should politicize intelligence? we won't know until we find out who made a request from asking how many americans were surveilled. on the 15th demo collections. how many were members of congress, how many requests in their conversations. >> we will see. good to see you, senator. >> more developing from london this hour. scott yards this afternoon is a major concert is about to begin in manchester. how do you keep this event safe today? we are their life in a moment. bill: fox news alert. what we are learning about ari
if susan rice and u.n. ambassador warned fact making a request of the elegance community that i want to listen to lindsey graham's conversation with the foreign person, that bothers me simply because i'm in a different branch of government. what national security value comes from having someone like susan rice be able to listen into conversations with the lyrical opponents and foreign leaders. pat to me would be be a great abuse of intelligence gathering. the question is did the obama industry...
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>> tom: hillary clinton, obama, susan rice. >> eric: susan rice went on five separate talkshows. >> eboniresent that, it has a racial connotation. >> eric: we will circle back with our specialists shelby holliday and tom fitton. don't go away. when they thought they should westart saving for retirement.le then we asked some older people when they actually did start saving. this gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too many of us aren't prepared for retirement. just start as early as you can. it's going to pay off in the future. if we all start saving a little more today, we'll all be better prepared tomorrow. prudential. bring your challenges. >> kat: time to circle back with our specialists shelby holliday and tom fitton. tom, what did you think of the leaks and all that happened today? >> tom: 4.5 million people have security clearances and it's no surprise that someone like reality winner -- it's a serious issue. too many people have access to sensitive information in the casual approach to leaking classified information just because
>> tom: hillary clinton, obama, susan rice. >> eric: susan rice went on five separate talkshows. >> eboniresent that, it has a racial connotation. >> eric: we will circle back with our specialists shelby holliday and tom fitton. don't go away. when they thought they should westart saving for retirement.le then we asked some older people when they actually did start saving. this gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too...
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former national security advisor susan rice, samantha power and former cia director john brennan all named in the subpoenas. a senior aid claims nunes was acting separately and he only recused himself. >> can this investigation continue? >> why would it not? >> in april nunes announced he was temporarily putting mike conway in charge of the russian probe. he faced a firestorm of criticism about how he handled classified materials when he obtained documents in a secret white house meeting. >> i have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, i guess, at least monitored. >> i don't agree with the chairman's characterization. >> the house rules state the chairman can issue subpoenas if he consults with the democrats. it is clear that did not happen in some cases. also this morning the president now weighing in on this debate over what this committee should be looking at. the president tweeting just within the last hour saying the big story is the unmasking and surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration. >> all righ
former national security advisor susan rice, samantha power and former cia director john brennan all named in the subpoenas. a senior aid claims nunes was acting separately and he only recused himself. >> can this investigation continue? >> why would it not? >> in april nunes announced he was temporarily putting mike conway in charge of the russian probe. he faced a firestorm of criticism about how he handled classified materials when he obtained documents in a secret white...
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john brennan, former dreck of the cia, susan rice, former nationecity adviser and samantha power. of all obvus run and could as part of the intelligence community could unmasked names. that was part of his remix. susan rice is somewhat stranger because usually the national security advisor doesn't get involved at that level. the samantha power, totally unheard of. although she may be considered in some formal sense a part of the intelligence community. >> who knows. i think there is examination. maria: we will examine in the weeks to come. the thursday testimony will be important. michael mukasey, great to see you. thank you for your insights as always. getting back to live, do we know about the attackers. the man who oversaw the response to the boston marathon attack as you know who likes to be in control? this guy. check it out! self-appendectomy! oh, that's really attached. that's why i rent from national. where i get the control to choose any car in the aisle i want, not some car they choose for me. which makes me one smooth operator. ah! still a little tender. (vo) go nationa
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at some point when you know john brennan, samantha power and susan rice had access to unmasked americanstelligence, the next obvious question is did they brief the president? did the president benefit from that? i'm certain as the summer winds on, we're going to get questions like that, and hopefully, a few answers. lou: and upcoming as well is the interrogation, if you will -- [laughter] the testimony of the former director of the fbi. >> sure. lou: i want to get your sense of that, because it seems to me that as one looks at the record of director comey amongst the first questions that should be asked by the panel is how is it you did not bring scandal after scandal after scandal to resolution and left open files and open cases that look for all the world like political, if you will, subterfuge rather than investigative success? >> june 8th is going to be a very big day for james comey to come back to the hill and testify before the senate. and i think it's going to be a little bit, i think it could be comey versus comey, which i think some of the words he uttered previously are going
at some point when you know john brennan, samantha power and susan rice had access to unmasked americanstelligence, the next obvious question is did they brief the president? did the president benefit from that? i'm certain as the summer winds on, we're going to get questions like that, and hopefully, a few answers. lou: and upcoming as well is the interrogation, if you will -- [laughter] the testimony of the former director of the fbi. >> sure. lou: i want to get your sense of that,...
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susan rice, under president obama, will, indeed, testify in front of the house intelligence committees, the top ranking republican went after her bringing claims. she's going to talk. what else do you know? >> initially, she refused to appear in front of the committee. now she is going to appear, it's going to be a closed door session. she probably will talk about what she learned. a lot is classified information. she'll go into detail about what she knew about michael flynn. but, what we don't know is if she was actually involved in it or if there was any need to unmask michael flynn's information and the intelligence that they have learned. this has been the focus of the republicans on the hill, certainly on the house side. they have been very interested in this unmasking and who released and who revealed michael flynn's name. keep in mind, we believe that the investigation may not have needed for his name to be unmasked because the way the u.s. government learned of his name may not have required that. >> again, a closed door hearing in front of the house intelligence committee wit
susan rice, under president obama, will, indeed, testify in front of the house intelligence committees, the top ranking republican went after her bringing claims. she's going to talk. what else do you know? >> initially, she refused to appear in front of the committee. now she is going to appear, it's going to be a closed door session. she probably will talk about what she learned. a lot is classified information. she'll go into detail about what she knew about michael flynn. but, what we...
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susan rice is somewhat stranger because usually the national security advisor doesn't get involved athat level. the samantha power, totally unheard of. although she may be consider in some formal sense a part of the intelligence community. >> who knows. i think there is examination. maria: we will examine in the weeks to come. the thursday testimony will be important. michael mukasey, great to see you. thank you for your insights as always. getting back to live, do we know about the attackers. the man who oversaw the response the man who oversaw the response to the boston marathon attack as i love to eat. i love hanging out with my friends. the man who oversaw the response to the boston marathon attack as i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free. it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well fitting dentures let in food particles just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. su
susan rice is somewhat stranger because usually the national security advisor doesn't get involved athat level. the samantha power, totally unheard of. although she may be consider in some formal sense a part of the intelligence community. >> who knows. i think there is examination. maria: we will examine in the weeks to come. the thursday testimony will be important. michael mukasey, great to see you. thank you for your insights as always. getting back to live, do we know about the...
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this is going to kill us with loretta lynch and susan rice and all the rest.ir interests are not aligned on this topic. >> tucker: what do they do at that point? to they go back to finding a new murder trial to cover? what is the next ways for them? >> i think the trouble when you go down this thing -- it's like, we used to have these things long before television. 80 years ago, when there where supposedly be a 5-year-old boy trapped in a well, and the media would camp out around the well to wait for the little boy to be rescued, and that was dramatic in a sob story way. but if there is no little 7-year-old in the well, if there actually is nothing there, then, all you have done in the long run, i think, is destroyed yourself. you go back to that malaysian jet thing, they actually are, in this case, they are -- do you remember on cnn when they thought the malaysian jet might have flown into a black hole? that's what they have done. they have taken a very small story and an expanding end, they are flying their network into a black hole. whether they can emerge
this is going to kill us with loretta lynch and susan rice and all the rest.ir interests are not aligned on this topic. >> tucker: what do they do at that point? to they go back to finding a new murder trial to cover? what is the next ways for them? >> i think the trouble when you go down this thing -- it's like, we used to have these things long before television. 80 years ago, when there where supposedly be a 5-year-old boy trapped in a well, and the media would camp out around...
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but we have had susan rice all but confirmed that she did, indeed, unmask trump officials and mr. brennan too. so it'll be interesting to see what she has to say because it's very difficult to come up with a good reason for why the former embassador to the united nations would be unmasking officials. paul: all right, what about devin nunes and the democrats are hitting him, you're supposed to be out of the russian probe and why are you issuing subpoenas? >> he has never rescued himself from the question of who is doing leaking and who is doing unmasking in the white house or out of the white house. paul: all right, let's talk, joe, about this attempt in the white house now, we have news that they're hiring some lawyer lawyers, donald trump's long-time lawyer will lead the defense for donald trump and create a unit in the white house much as karl rove advised that would deal with this, isolated, try to quarantine it? >> moving their agenda and managing a scandal, the benefit here is that you've got a lot of policy people that are getting pulled off on the russia news of the day and
but we have had susan rice all but confirmed that she did, indeed, unmask trump officials and mr. brennan too. so it'll be interesting to see what she has to say because it's very difficult to come up with a good reason for why the former embassador to the united nations would be unmasking officials. paul: all right, what about devin nunes and the democrats are hitting him, you're supposed to be out of the russian probe and why are you issuing subpoenas? >> he has never rescued himself...