joining us now is suzanne craig, new york times investigative reporter.for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> i do like this is a combination of so much that you set in motion. so let me just first ask, what stood out to you from this? it is a monster, it is a monster lawsuit. >> yeah, i've got it here. >> and there is so many egregious examples. >> there is. i think just the volume and the specificity page after page after page. what i found compelling is someone, you know, as a reporter we usually has a lot of stories that take different components to piece it together. sometimes you have, one case of 2020. we had a huge volume of this tax returns some 20 years other stories, we have a lot of component pieces. in 2018, we were able to show, because we had banked statements, we had financial statements. we were able to show fraud. that's what they've got here. they've got statements, they have got interviews from people. emails across a huge number of entities from the accountants to bankers. that is what i was reading, page after page of di

joining us now is suzanne craig, "new york times" investigative reporter. suzanne, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> this is the culmination of so much work you set into motion. let me first ask, what stood out? it's a monster -- it's a monster lawsuit. >> yeah. i brought it here. >> and there are so many egregious examples. >> what i felt compelling as a reporter, we usually, a lot of stories take different components to piece it together. sometimes you have one in the case of 2020. we had a huge volume of his tax documents. and other stories we have a lot of component pieces. and in 2018 we did and we were able to show because we had bank statements and we had financial statements. we were able to show a fraud. they have statements. they have interviews from people, embarrass across a huge number of entities from the accountants to bankers. i was reading page after page. >> it's full color. >> yeah. >> full spectrum. is there a property that struck you as the most egregious in terms of asset inflation and fraud? >> the asset inflation.

it could be something that ultimately you have those around him dissuading him. >> suzann craig, in your following all of this, this is a civil case and there will be delays going forward, which is what the former president and his team have done right now with the mar-a-lago documents that were seized. we have seen that. it has been weeks and weeks and we are arguing over whether they are classified and whether that matters. this is going to go on for quite some time. months if not years, right? >> yeah. it could go -- at a certain point -- we haven't talked about this. but they could settle. today we are seeing -- it's the attorney general's day. the trump organization has been behind the scenes trying to get a settlement. it hasn't happened. that could still happen. the other thing that's on the horizon -- it's coming up in october -- end of october, the criminal trial against the trump organization is going to start, unless there's a delay or a settlement. that is also similar to -- some similar issues. that is allen weisselberg has settled and that case is going forward. that will h

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let's bring in "new york times" investigative reporter, suzanne craig, she has reported extensively on the finances and taxes of donald trump, and won a pulitzer prize for that work, and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos, and andrew weissman, the former general counsel for the fbi. good morning to you all. just as a big picture look at what we're talking about here. there's so much going on around donald trump, around the elections, around his finances. it's hard to keep track. so what exactly are we talking about here in this lawsuit from the new york state attorney general? >> it's important to note that this is a civil lawsuit. it's not criminal. so if it ends up, you know in a court, he faces civil fines, and there are going to be other remedies, she wants to limit their ability to do business in new york. she wants to limit their lending, limit their, you know, ability to build in new york for a certain amount of period, so those are sort of the remedies. it's not criminal. they have a criminal case, the trump organization, coming up in october, but this is civil. this isn't jus

also the great suzanne craig is here, whose work covering trump's finances has earned her and her colleagues a puitzer prize, and david ferenhold. both of them, msnbc contributors. tom, what leaps out? >> a couple of different things. first off, the scope of this. that it continued up until 2020, when trump, by that point, had to know that he was under investigation or at least questions were well swirling about what was going on in his world, and yet, according to the attorney general, didn't lay them to step off the gas, that they kept going with some of the evaluations that she now questions. so, i think that that's interesting, number one. number two -- >> he was committing fraud while he was president. >> and while apparently he was under investigation. and so, i think that is -- those are two kind of glaring points, according to the attorney general's office. and another thing that sticks out to me, you mentioned the potential $250 million discouragement, the potential for a lifetime ban for the trumps, not just the former president, running his company, but this idea and it's an issue

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