through his complacency. >> reporter: fox declined to comment when cnn reached out to ask about suzanne scott'she network. for now, fox is not offering any public statements in support of scott. cnn also reached out multiple times to paul ryan and his spokesit its -- speokes people, we haven't heard back. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> for more on the dominion lawsuit fallout let's bring editor-in-chief aidan mclaughlin to cnn. great to see you. thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. brian todd's piece suggested -- there's been a lot of speculation about whether or not suzanne scott could take the fall in all of this. what do you think? i mean, that would be a surprise move for murdoch. that would be essentially him admitting that, you know, he has to clean house to some extent. what do you think? >> yeah. i think when you read this brief that dominion released that includes rupert murdoch's testimony here which was under oath, it certainly raises eyebrows because there is a strong suggestion there that he delegated all of this to suzanne scott, who was ceo of fox news. the sources that i've

after that fact check aired on fox, suzanne scott wrote an email, this is amazing, okay? an email to a fox executive who oversees prime time programming saying, quote, this has to stop now. this is bad business. the audience is furious. bad for business. you can see it right there. in these slides directly from dominion. i have to say, that email from suzanne scott, the ceo of fox, just distills the entire fox, dominion saget down to its very essence. you truly cannot script a better tagline for this whole debacle then, this is bad business, the audience is furious. now, again, we are just learning about that email now because fox initially rejected that email, i wonder why, in the big batch of documents that were made public a few weeks ago. i guess they didn't want public to realize quite how cynical their entire operation is. believe me, there is much more where that came from. here's another one. a few weeks after the 2020 election, suzanne scott, again, writes, quote, i can't keep defending these reporters who don't understand our viewers and how to handle stories. t

only for suzanne scott to appear to pass the message along to another executive with the warning, quoteer, scott also sent along a suggestion to book mike pillow, that's the mega conspiracy theorists, i think that's his name, who is one of the most vocal proponents of the big lie, because he would, quote, get ratings. speaking of the pillow guy, in another exchange, staff on tucker carlson's show says, he quote, seems to have gone off the deep and it is, quote, definitely crazy. but they still wanted to book him on the show and this is amazing, right? listen to this. because he was a major advertiser who stuck around. i quote here, i know there is concern about him being a conspiracy theorist no, but he has bailed us out loads of times when no one else would, meaning his bought ads on the program when no one else would. he's also been moving to newsmax lately. might be good business move to single we wouldn't observe deserve him. at which, point another producer chimes into, had quote, he is crazy and about to get sued by dominion. impressions. wtf is going to say on our air? so on one

suzanne scott, president of the news organizations, writes this, quote, this has to stop now, this isusiness. the audience is furious. bad for business, end quote. bad for business, so let's keep lying to them? >> what it shows is that fox news is primarily a business enterprise. here you have the head of the entire, quote unquote, news organization castigating a reporter for doing their job, fact-checking, i think it, was a trump tweet. and if i were council for fox, i will try to settle this case on the courthouse steps. in part, because in this defamation suit, the standard is not intent, the standard is reckless disregard. and what you have our emails from suzanne scott, from all the primetime personalities, saying that they know that joe biden was the rightful winner of the 2020 election, they know that everything donald trump is saying, all the conspiracy theories he floated, they knew all of that were vicious lies. and yet, telling the truth to their viewers that that was bad for business, that needed to stop, to use the phrase suzanne scott used. >> but if they settle, glenn,

i appointed suzanne scott, i delegate everything to her.this, reading the tea leaves, it looks like she would be the fall person and it's not unprecedented in murdoch history for someone senior like this to end up being expelled from his media empire. look at the news of the world scandal, there were high profile resignations. even his own son, james, had to resign in that scandal. and he did fire roger ails when he was accused of sexual misconduct. he got rid of bill o'reilly. so he is willing to, if push comes to shove, make decisions to get rid of high level personnel. >> you're not hearing the stars themselves will face consequences given they're the ones that pushed the lies. >> it's hard to imagine that someone like sean hannity is going to face consequences. they're the engine of the profit making machine. it's easy to throw someone like suzanne scott under the bus but someone like sean hannity is going to be more difficult. >>> president biden is set to meet behind closed doors with democrats as he tries to unite the party ahead of

it was sent by suzanne scott, the ceo of fox news. let me give you the context of what happened before she sent this email early december. 2020 of fox news correspondent actually went on air and debunked the big lie. uh in fact, checked donald trump, saying that there was no proof of a rigged election. well after that, the ceo lashed out. this is what suzanne scott said. in this email quote, she said, this has to stop now. this is bad business, and there clearly is a lack of understanding. what is happening in these shows. the audience is furious, and we are just feeding them and material. she closed it out by saying bad for business now, alex fox news there pushback on this. they say that the ceo didn't have any issue with fact fact checking donald trump. but she was worried about was people on one show, contradicting people on another show, but you can read it for yourself. there is a lot of evidence here, and this is why dominion thinks that they have a strong case. they say emails like this prove that fox didn't care about the tru

he emails the ceo of fox news, suzanne scott and sees his his son, lachlan to ceo of fox corporation, and then i'll reach you, he says. trump insisting on the election being stolen and convincing 25% of americans was a huge disservice to the country pretty much a crime in available. it blew up on january six, and then he goes on to say best. we don't mention his name unless essential and certainly don't support him. so really candid remarks from the fox chief behind the scenes about trump, and this is why dominion wants to put him on the stand because it shows that he did have editorial oversight over fox news, and it also shows that he that he was willing to, you know, use that editorial oversight to basically banished trump from his network. i mean, these are just low level people were talking about this is rupert murdoch, who is emailing saying that what trump did it? he's he called it pretty much a crime. i mean, that was the most striking part of the email to me. the thing that i find interesting, though he says that pretty much a crime was convincing a quarter of americans that

carlson had told on her to suzanne scott the head of the network. so everyone is still there. assume she has friends at the network. there would be other reporters there who looked at the texts saying oh, my goodness, if i put out an inconvenient fact they will come for my job. that goes beyond just what is happening on the television screen. that goes beyond lying to the audience. that's like we're trying to enact retribution behind the scenes to people that tell the truth to the audience. the other email that you guys haven't said, it's so astonishing to me. tucker said these last four years we're all pretending we've got a lot to show for it because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough to digest. there isn't really an upside to trump. i mean, that reveal like betrays the final lie of trumpism and of all these guys, right? all these times we all knew they hated trump behind the scenes. that's not new news. there has been leaks about that forever, they privately despite trump and think he's an idiot. the notion that they always held onto was that the tweets might

reporter: new reporting says questions are being raised about the future of a fox executive named suzanne scott. >> their ceo who is a very troubled successor to roger ailes, she was the executioner. >> reporter: and scott named by "forbes magazine" as one of the 100 most powerful women in media and entertainment. but as fox news takes more heat over the discovery that some of the top anchors knew the election wasn't stolen from donald trump and still proclaimed it was -- >> suzanne scott is the one at whose desk the buck stops. if you read murdoch's testimony closely. >> reporter: dep huring his deposition, murdoch seemed to distance himself from the decision making at fox. quote, i appointed ms. scott to the job and i delegate everything to her. but analysts say in reality -- >> stakes were far too important in the hours and days and weeks after the november 2020 elections for murdoch to completely sit back and watch it unfold. and in fact the evidence that has been brought to light so far shows that he didn't. >> reporter: murdoch admitted in his deposition that while election lies were bein

amount of material in this latest file legal filing, including an email from rupert murdoch, to suzanne scott, who technically holds the ridiculous title of ceo of fox but is really just a rupert murdoch assistant. the email is the day after joe biden's inauguration, when rupert murdoch begins the day, in a meeting with mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham and he tells suzanne scott what he heard in that meeting. still getting mud thrown out act us. is it in arguable that high profile fox voices voices fed the story that the election was stolen and that january 6th, an important change, to have results overturned? an important chance to have results overturned. maybe john and laura went too far. all very well for sean to tell you he was in despair about trump. but what did he tell his viewers? rupert murdoch knows exactly what sean hannity told his viewers. rupert murdoch paid sean hannity millions upon millions, tens and tens of millions of dollars to tell his viewers what rupert murdoch had shown him. that the election was stolen. that the trump presidency would be restored. under oath rupert

this is an email from murdaugh to fox news ceo suzanne scott in 2020. he explained that he just spoke with president trump, who told murdaugh which fox news host he liked, and which he didn't like. based on their coverage of him. he thought it wise to let the ceo of fox news no those preferences, so, she could act accordingly. then there's this email, again, from rupert murdoch to the ceo of fox news. complaining about an apparent outburst fox host lou dobbs had against republican senator lindsey graham. rupert murdoch asked, could sean, meeting foxes sean kennedy, say something supportive? we can't lose the senate if at all possible. does that we mean we the republican party? does it mean fox news? it is kind of hard to tell where one stops in the other begins. here's another one. again, for murdaugh to the ceo of fox news. this time, november of 2020. after the general election once it was clear, the control of the senate would be decided by runoff elections in georgia. quote, we should concentrate on georgia, helping anyway we can. who is the we hear

to your question about what the point, what the relevance of suzanne scott saying, you know, this issiness, that is essentially the core of dominion's argument. and these e-mails help prove that in spades, which is that fox news may cold calculated business decisions, as ratings were falling after it declared biden the victory of the presidency, and it needed to please the audience, because the audience didn't want to hear the truth that donald trump had been defeated you see time and time again between e-mails and exchanges between hosts and producers, they knew their audience didn't want to hear the inconvenient truth. the alternative fox came up with, which was to endorse this lie that the election had been stolen through the use of dominion machines is very likely defamatory and a jury is going to have to decide that, and the evidence is really not on fox's si side. >> this seems like it's going to trial. getting any word about might be fox trying to settle this behind the scenes every time more information comes out, i'm surprised that fox hasn't tried to just make this go away

suzanne scott, the fox news ceo, fox news president j.ace fox news host bret bear and a list of other star personalities and high ranking executive at the company. now we'll see if fox news allows some of these people to testify . they have signaled that they do want to call people themselves like suzanne scott, the fox news ceo to the stand, obviously, for very different reasons than why dominion would want to call them and foxes a shirt to ah, the present legal challenges to dominion calling some of these witnesses. we don't know how the judge will rule on this, but this is for sure shaping up well to be a very high profile trial in a few weeks. $0.6 billion lawsuit against fox any chance sarah that rupert murdoch himself could be called to testify. well that's the big question right now. wolf the judge said that he received a letter from fox's lawyers that basically said that murdoch himself probably couldn't travel the lawyers and clarified and said, look, we're not saying that he physically can't travel but that there's no need to br

we're talking about rupert murdoch, lachlan murdaugh, who i believe is the chair of fox, suzanne scottesident of fox news. the fox corp senior vp, arena bergeron teed, the senior executive vp of corporate communications, and all of the top fox primetime talent. how meaningful is that in the context of a defamation lawsuit? >> well, it's incredibly meaningful. and particularly, in the context of this defamation lawsuit. given the crush of evidence here, i think we have to ask, will, what are they actually going to argue about? in front of a jury? if this case makes its way to a jury, which it seems like it's headed to do. i think this is going to be one of the real issues. if pressed, and if they're backed into a corner, i think what they might say is, okay, our guests lead on air, okay, maybe some of our hosts lead on her, but that doesn't mean that the entire organization is responsible. this is really great evidence to say, well, everybody knew, on the way up the chain, that there were knowingly making false statements in their broadcasts, and the opportunities to stop it. one of the

rupert murdoch and his son, his chief legal officer, the chief executive of fox, suzanne scott, theyusually happen. it's really extraordinary. usually you would see companies settling the case far earlier than the point we've gotten to now, and so i just think it really is sent a chill through the entire organization. >> jeremy peters, jeremy, thank you very much. and let's ask the question of former u.s. attorney barbara mcquaid, also msnbc legal analyst. why hasn't fox news settled this or tried to settle it? >> proving a defamation case can be very difficult. not only do you have to prove that lies were communicated, you have to show that there's an actual damage to the reputation of dominion. if dominion continues to do business or sell voting machines to communities, then that damages aspect may be difficult to prove. and so it may very well be that fox wants to win this case and proclaim vindication, and so it may be able to win on different grounds, but if they can claim vindication, then their viewers will likely not ask enough questions to know that it was on the basis of th

fox news ceo suzanne scott told him "privately, they're all there, but we need to be careful about using the shows and pissing off the viewers. dominion says that night the hosts did not declare joe biden the winner stephanie gosk, nbc news >>> in 60 seconds, the battle over tiktok federal agencies ordered to get it off their phones, but could that rule extend to the millions of americans who love the app? >>> the white house has now set a deadline to remove tiktok, the popular chinese-owned app, from all federal devices citing security concerns. now there is a growing push to ban tiktok altogether in the u.s. let's get more from jake ward. >> reporter: every time an american opens tiktok, each of them might be handing over personal information like names, email addresses, even physical location. it all forms a vast database on americans inside a chinese-owned company. and that has made tiktok the latest front in a deepening war of words with china. the white house saying it needs to curb foreign adversaries' access to american data while china's foreign minister criticized the world's n

in another email, fox news ceo suzanne scott warned of the financial fallout if the network conducted fact checking of trump's lies after the 2020 election, cnn's oliver darcy spoke earlier about these revelations. there's just more fallout every day from this $1.6 billion lawsuit against fox news from dominion voting systems, and now we're having new emails that really shed light on the pressure that fox news is under as a business after they called the election accurately for joe biden. i want to read to you an email that suzanne scott, the ceo, sent another executive after a correspondent eric shawn, fact check trump slides and a guest who went on sean hannity's program and spread some election lies. and she said, this has to stop and goes on to say this is a bad business, and there clearly is a lack of understanding what is happening in these shows. the audience is furious, and we are just feeding the material. bad for business. now. fox news will this was because they fact checked a guest that was spreading again. these election conspiracy theories on sean hannity's show , but st

those are the words of fox news chief suzanne scott about anchors and correspondents at the network who were fact checking then president trump's election lies on air writing in one email coming to light and filings from dominions $1.6 billion defamation suit against fox news, scott writes. this has to stop now the audience is furious. bad for business. scott lashing out in another message, saying, in part quote, i can't keep defending these reporters who don't understand our viewers and how to handle stories and in another email written on inauguration day, rupert murdoch , obviously the ultimate boss of the company, lays into the former president himself. in this case, the totally opposite side, murdoch, saying trump's election lies were quote a huge disservice to the country. pretty much a crime. amazing. thank you so much for joining us. 3 60 begins now. moments ago , a vigil for the three adults and 39 year olds who were murdered at the covenant school two days ago ended in nashville. a city still in mourning. tonight was a moment for people to gather to console and to remember. fi

tell the truth, according to this lawsuit in the communications, and she was getting dinged by suzanne scott for trying to tell the truth for trying to do you know journalism, which is reporting the facts and the truth. so let's turn to another big story. that's out. of course, we're all watching. i'm here in manhattan right now we're watching with the grand jury is going to do there examining donald trump's role in the hush money payments scheme with adult performer stormy daniels that is set to break for most of april, a source tells cnn. trump praised the grand jury as we know on on true social this morning writing quote, i have gained such respect for this grand jury and perhaps even a grand jury system as a whole. the evidence is so overwhelming in my favor and so ridiculously bad for the highly partisan and hateful district attorney van. how do you interpret that? well when they indict him. i don't think he's gonna be saying the same thing. so you know it. basically today , you know, trump tries to manage his emotions moment to moment, so he's feeling good about what seems to be a dela

newly revealed emails showing fox news chief executive suzanne scott lashing out in an email after aecked trump's election lies. >> she said, "this has to stop" and goes on to say "this is bad business, and there clearly is a lack of understanding what is happening in these shows. the audience is furious, and we are just feeding them material. bad for business." [cheers and applause] >> john: well, that will teach me. i guess i lost. but yeah, fox news got mad at their fact-checker. i didn't even know they had a fact-checker. it's like hearing there's a head of diversity at the kkk. and secondly, what kind of news network gets mad when their journalists do journalism? one of their reporters could win a pulitzer prize and his boss would be like, "do you know how bad this looks for us? you better go on air and say hillary clinton is a vampire lesbian or you're fired." yo, i can't wait to see what other things fox admits to in these emails. we're a few weeks away from finding out sean hannity does a drag story hour at his local kindergarten. [applause] yeah, yeah. and finally, let's mov

fox news ceo suzanne scott told him "privately, they're all there, but we need to be careful about using the shows and pissing off the viewers." dominion says that night the hosts did not declare joe biden the winner. stephanie gosk, nbc news. >>> in 60 seconds, the battle over tiktok. federal agencies ordered to get it off their phones, but could that rule extend to the millions of americans who love the app? at ancient roman coinage? no. he's making real-time money moves with merrill. so no matter what the market's doing, he's ready. and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your tracks... choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if y

. >> a got a phone call from suzanne scott, she said, that they had been missing for 5 hours.as been missing before, i figured, i said that to suzanne, i'm sure they are just hownchhunkered down, i really believed that, pierre had 9 lives, he always came back. whether it was shrapnel in him or kidnapped or whatever. >> sure, they could be hiding out in a building, pierre knows his way on the ground. they could have been in a ditch some where, call me pepessimistic after decades of fighting in the war, i thought the worst. >> i heard on the news there was going be a curfew for 36 hours in kyiv. i thought, okay. if he is hurt, and lying in a ditch where some, wounded, he will not survivor the cold and 36 hour curfew. i started calling everyone that i knew. messaging them. saying help. my husband is missing, find him. find pierre. >>pier pierre was always with ben jee benji. the fact he was missing did not make sense. >> i called rick there my phone ridges, it is alicia. i am like, christ. this is pretty heavy. i answered it, alicia was inconsolable, i said this is when we know,

you could see people like tucker carlson, sean hannity, fox news ceo suzanne scott.l potentially be on that witness list if this does go to trial in a few weeks. sunday was election day in the caribbean nation of cuba. 470 candidates ran for the 470 seats in the national assembly, but one stood out from all the others. elian gonzalez, now seeking to become a lawmaker , some 23 years after he was caught in a u. s. cuba custody dispute. as he told patrick ottman. that experience taught him a lot about us cuban relations and about his own father. yeah gonzalez walks with his wife and their daughter in his hometown of cardinals. cuba preparing to step back in the public view. gonzalez is here to vote for himself and the other candidates for cuba's national assembly. candidates run on opposed so he is all but guaranteed to win. it will be gonzalez's first official role since the legal battle that brought him back to cuba 23 years ago. early on in our interview, gonzales makes it clear the u. s. is still on his mind. gigi said, i'm someone the american people know, and i c

murdoch and suzanne scott the ceo asked me if i would do a show, they didn't ask me what kind. said okay, i would like do it on a sunday night, late, see how we can do it. a long form interview. do what you can. that is pretty much the only direction i have been given. so, i tell you this for a the reason, when i come here and do this program, i determine what i will say in opening statement and who the guests will be. they have enough faith in me to know i'm not going to blow the place up. this is very important to understand, they treat all of the hosts this way, the news room this way. this fantastic network, if it didn't exist, i want you to think about what kind of media you would be receiving day in and day out. from "meet the press," from "good morning america," from god knows what. it would just be the same thing over and over. we really do have a competition of ideas here. even among conservatives. even within the newsroom. and that is a good thing. that is the way it is supposed to be, there is a vibrant, visionous network. -- vib i just decided on say it we come unde

murdoch and suzanne scott the ceo asked me if i would do a show.y didn't ask me what kind of a show.t ki i said okay. let's doe it on a sunday night, late, see how we can do it a long form interview. do what you can and do then. best. that is pretty much the only directed i have been given. so, i tell you that for a reasons. when i come herereas and do this program, i determine what i'm going to say in theop openineng statement who who th ie bests will be, they -- who the guests will be.is this is very important to understand, they treat all the hosts this way, the news room this way.. this fantastic network, if it didn't exist, i want you to think what what kind of media you would be receiving day in day out, from "meet th e press," from "good mornin frog america," from god knows what. w it wouldou be the same thing over and over.we we do have a competition of ideas here. even among the conservatives, even withinen w the newsroom. that is a good thing. that is the way it is supposed to be this is a vibrant network, nobody-- asked me to tell you th

this was an e-mail sent from suzanne scott. of fox news on december 2022 from they fact-checked trump. this has to stop now. this is bad business, the audience is furious. bad for business. it is amazing. it is right there in print. the people who wrote these admit they wrote them. that it is bad business to give the audience facts to fact-check and the audience does not care at all. no one who watches fox news is even going to know about this because they get their news from fox news and they're not going to report it. they're going to bob happily along and cheering along with the five and nodding and grunting along with every story they hear from what is the wwe of news organization. [applause] >> jimmy: and congress -- republicans in congress are even more brazen. kevin mccarthy is planning to investigate the guy investigating investi investigating trump in new york. sadly what's been lost in all of this is lucky little leprechaun, george santos, attempt to do repair work on his image. >> what are the biggest misconception a

murdoch was e-mailing the fox news ceo, suzanne scott, about the conspiracy theory that it was terrible stuff, just damaging everybody. that includes the fox viewers who were lied it was an insurrection. many who watched fox and heard those claims echoed, many have paid the price. when the history of this era was written, there may be many chapters on how these rich, powerful people who didn't really have much pressure to do so decided against their own knowledge to go lie america into an insurrection, even if they hated trump passionately and viewed him as a raging disaster. they were pretending to support him, which led a lot of people to believe they really did support him. that's how lying and pretending works. that's how we got ourselves that close to that attempted coup. what's tucker carlson doing lately? it not something we have echoed or aired on this program but you may have heard about it. he spent last week misleading about the insurrection leading with the man he so passionately hates. just as a jury might use this evidence to convict mr. carlson's employer is one piece of

a dressmaker top executive's were concerned about alienating pro trump audience, fox news ceo suzanne scotte will highlight our stars and plant sites letting viewers know we hear them and respect them. rupert murdaugh testified some opinion host did endorse unproven election fraud theories but not all of fox he said and i think i was like to be stronger in denouncing it in hindsight. fox challenges dominion claim of 1.6 billion in damages inflated given private equity firm got three quarters of the company five years ago for $38 million. legally, dominion must prove fox acted with malice or disregard for the truth. there was straight reporting by the news division which caused friction but the fact that some people privately dismissed it as nuts or outlandish or saying it doesn't necessarily mean fox couldn't cover and comment on the extremely newsworthy skeptical of the president saying election was stolen, that's why the case is a major test of the first amendment. footnote, auckland murdaugh said is an obligation to report the news, i think the noise you hear is not about the law or jour

here is a list of people along with david clark, meade cooper, suzanne scott, warmer for corporationes like rupert murdoch and many others, host like maria bartiromo, tucker and his producers, the list goes on and on. joining us now, adam serwer, staffer on the atlantic's and author of the recent article called why fox news lies to its viewers, and josh marshall, founder of undervalued points. his latest points is tucker carlson and no crying in baseball. the three of us have known each other various capacities for long time and watch the development of various ecosystems. adam, first your sort of top line view of how we ended up at this moment? >> i think it's pretty clear example of audience capture. fox news feeds a sort of conspiratorial information to its audience. it's audience then wants to hear the news that they want to hear, whether or not it's true. and when fox does not give them that information they, are willing to go elsewhere. so fox in response has to, it has to provide them with the things that they know are not true but which their audience wants to hear. and that

and rupert murdoch, and suzanne scott, the ceo of fox news, tried everything to ring the alarm bells here. and ringing the alarm bells, in many instances, edmonton door seeing these fantastical notions that dominion machines were somehow at the center of a plot to siphon votes away from donald trump and give them to joe biden. so, it all started, symone, with the panic over tv ratings. >> that's certainly -- jeremy, it's something else that we learned today. it's that a fox news producer, who works for fox news and maria bartiromo is suing the company. so, what is going on there? >> this is actually very interesting. because maria bartiromo, as much as she is kind of a secondary figure within the fox news orbit -- right, like, we consider these folks like tucker carlson, sean hannity, to be the biggest stars of the network -- but they are not the ones that could plan fox news in the biggest jeopardy in this lawsuit. that's maria bartiromo and this guy, lou dobbs, who never no longer works there. -- she was responsible for giving credence to really crazy conspiracy theories about the

joe biden's administration, fox chairman rupert murdoch conceded in an email to fox news' ceo suzanne scotttalent went too far. >> disturbing irregularities have been found and must be investigated to the fullest. >> reporter: during his deposition, murdoch was believed to you believe dominion was engaged in a massive and coordinated effort to steal the election? murdoch replied, no. fox now saying dominion is cherry picking emails and documents to release. dominion has been caught red handed using more distortions and misinformation in their campaign to smear fox news and trample on free speech. but dominion says the emails, texts and deposition testimony speak for themselves. the revelations didn't come as a surprise to at least one republican. >> i'm not surprised that intelligent people realize that what they were saying on the air was untruthful, and i'm just disappointed that they would sell their personal integrity so cheaply. >> reporter: we are expecting new evidence to be released tonight. some of the documents already coming in, we still need to review those. both sides of the ca

from murdaugh, two fox news ceo suzanne scott, where he says, still getting mud thrown at us, maybe sean and laura went too far. of course referring to primetime anchors laura ingraham and shawn and hannity. with, that let's get smarter the help of our lead off panel tonight, jeff candidacy, the co-anchor pbs, newshour and pbs's chief washington correspondent and an msnbc political contributor. chairman peters tries, political reporter for the new york times, nick reston is here a national political reporter at the washington post, and former federal prosecutor renato, he's also legal affairs analyst for politico. jeremy, i want you to be here because you go inside fox news, every day, you are reporting what sticks out to you the most in this. >> i think what you see first and foremost, it is almost kind of a contempt for president trump. coming from some unlikely sources, namely tucker carlson 's producers. so few people of fox news, have been as big a cheerleader for president trump, as tucker carlson. so what he's saying privately, things like you thinks what trump is doing by refusin

murdoch conceded in an e-mail to suzanne scott in january 2021 that some of fox's top talent went too far in their coverage. >> do you believe that dominion was engaged in a massive and coordinated effort to steal the 2020 presidential election? murdoch reflied, no. we plied, no. >> dominion made an effort to show that rupert murdoch was hands on. he was aware of what people were saying on his air. he had the ability to stop these guests from appearing and repeating these things. >> both judge asked them to resolve the case in their favor without going to trial. if not, it will go to trial in delaware beginning next month. >> is there any chance they could settle? i imagine that is what a lot of people whose texts are coming out are thinking about right now. what do you i what is your sense? >> you make a great point, kaitlan. and there certainly a chance that this could settle. but there is no sign right now that any settlement is in the works. dominion is asking for $1.6 billion. if they settle, they could settle for an amount much less than that. if this goes to a jury, the jury co

he raised the possibility that executives, perhaps even fox news executive suzanne scott, who heads theremoved or should be removed from the board, and, you know, rupert me delk during one of his depositions, i up for to be a reviolation comment. he said -- i appointed misscott to the job, and i delegate everything to her. effectively saying she's the one in charge here, so if there's any wrongdoing, it falls on her shoulders. it will be interesting to see whether people like her manage to survive this ever-growing scandal. >> yeah, complicity through complacency. it's hard to argue with a sentiment like that. oliver, thank you. >>> closing arguments are underway in the double murder trial. this is coming after the jury visited the crime scene. this is the area here. we brand-new video from the scene and we have the latest, coming up. ur pace. store yoyour things until you're ready. then we e deliver to your new home - across town or across the country. pods, yourur personal moving and storage team. my moderate to sever plaque psoriasis... the burning, itching. the pain. emerge tremfyan

another email that we have in which murdoch emails fox ceo suzanne scott, and he talks about -- he saysg with mcconnell, lindsey graham and other anti-impeachers and talks about how we're still getting mud thrown at us, and that it's unarguable that fox news fed the story that the election was stolen. and murdoch says maybe sean hannity and laura ingram went too far. these are, again, part of hundreds of pages of documents that we're just getting and poring over, brianna. >> yeah. norm, how significant is this? >> brianna, i think it's significant. there is a staggering trove of information here, and it still has a considerable number of redactions. coming in proximity to fox continuing to broadcast allegations by tucker carlson. who knows what is under those redactions? probably even more damaging information. so i think this is very important, and we have yet to get to trial, which will come in april. who knows what lies ahead? >> what do you think about the redactions and just how lengthy this filing is? >> well, so these documents, the exhibits that support andominios motion for sum

this is an e-mail from murdoch to the fox news ceo suzanne scott in 2020. he told murdoch which fox news hosts he likedh and which he didn't likend based on their coverage of him. murdoch found it wise to let the ceo of fox news know those preferences so she could act accordingly. then there's e-mail again from murdoch to thel ceo of fox new this time complaining about an apparent outburst. murdoch asks could sean say something supportive? we can't lose the senate if at all possible. does that we mean we the republican party? does it mean fox news? it is kind of hard to tell where one stop and the other begins. here's another one again from murdoch to the ceo of fox news this time november 2020 after the general election once it was clear the control ofr the sept would be decided by runoff elections in georgia. quote, we should concentrate on georgia, c helping any way we c. who is the we here? it turns out over and over again that question is hard to answer when you're talking about the highest levels of fox news. if you have any doubt about the kind of po

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an email from january 20th, '21, from rupert murdoch to his son loughlin murdoch and fox ceo suzanne scotttrump fsing on the election being stolen and convincing 25% of americans will be huge disservice to the country. pretty much a crime, all caps. pretty much a crime. inevitable it blew up on january 6th. best we don't mention his name unless essential and certainly don't support him. pretty much a crime? what inevitable that it blew up on january 6th? wow. joining us now, nbc news senior vuf and legal correspondent, the woman who conducted that fantastic interview, sincynthia mcfadden, she sat down with that interview with abby grossberg. also law professor laurence tribe is also here take me through this stunning conversation. >> you know, part of this is about whether they were putting things on the air. i mean, the lawsuit, the dominion suit really is banked on did fox knowingly put on the air this slanderous untrue material, did they know or should they have known and one of the fascinating things that grossberg said to me, i asked her, i mean, come on, you are putting people on day

viewers were reacting. >> and this report also offered a window into the thinking of fox boss suzanne scottd this quote that she gave, according to "the new york times," which obtained this recording, she was talking about things like not calling a race to hold viewers in suspense. and according to this report, the executives also mused whether it would be a good idea just not to call races because it might hurt the feelings of viewers if it's calling for a democrat, or just to keep the race going on because it would boost viewership. again, these are not things that normal news networks actually consider when calling races. they call races as soon as they're confident in the math. but over at fox, it's obviously another story. >> right, and i think, you know, if you put this to the side of the revelations coming out of the dominion lawsuit, where you had anchors, major prime-time anchors over at fox worried about ratings, worried about what this does to their brand and so on, when it comes to covering an election, election results, and so on, facts are facts. the truth is the truth. and th

on it chief executive suzanne scott expresses regret for reporting the truth.s one of the sad reality, if we hadn't called arizona those three or four days following election day our ratings would have been bigger. the mystery would have still been hanging out there. that is a news executive, the top news executive second-guessing herself for reporting the news which angered president trump and some fox viewers which then seemed to scare many at fox news. perspective from harvard law school's laurence tribe author of "to end a presidency." professor tribe, were you surprised by in that top executives were regretting the arizona call which was -- it was an early call but they got it right. >> it's remarkable. what i'm surprised about is not that that's what they said because we've learned increasingly that their whole business model is to lie if it helps their ratings. what i'm surprised about is that we learned directly what they said that we have the zoom call, we have the receipts. you know, just four days from now it's going to be the 59th anniversary of "th

at one meeting held november 15, 2020, suzanne scott, the chief executive of fox news media, told othersen, it's one of the sad realities -- if we hadn't called arizona, those three or four days following election day, our ratings would have been higher." we are joined now by angelo carusone, president of the watchdog group media matters, which recently sent a federal elections commission complaint against fox news based on evidence from the dominion lawsuit. welcome to democracy now! stop off talkingbout -- start of what your filing is about. >> investigate in the claims that came out of the dominion filings and to take the appropriate action. it is completely within the letter of the law says that the campaigns act is pretty explicit. it says you can't give anything of value to a political candidate that is not tracked, not long. in certain circumstances, is found this kinds of private information that could be used for political purposes is a thing of value. it seems to me black-and-white and so we want to make sure what happened i fox doesn't skate accountabilityecause nody went thro

much less sophisticated news network, i was beating fox in a few instances, and rupert murdoch, suzanne scottbells here, and ringing the alarm bells in many instances, meant endorsing these fantastical notions that dominion machines were somehow at the center of a plot, to siphon votes away from donald trump and give them to joe biden so it all started with the panic over tv ratings. >> when, they, jamming those on the house we learned today, that a fox news producer who works for tucker carlson, and maria bartiromo, is suing the company. so what is going on there? >> so this is actually very interesting, because maria bartiromo as mice as she is kind of a secondary for in the fox news orbit we consider these folks like tucker carlsen sean hannity to be with stars in the network, when they're not the ones that could land fox news in the biggest jeopardy in this lawsuit, that's maria bartiromo and this guy lou dobbs who no longer works there, we are still employed by the network, and she was responsible for giving credence, to really crazy conspiracy theories about the dominion voting machines

ryan, need to take immediate action, including possibly removing people like the fox news ceo suzanne scott they have a responsibility to shareholders. and by their lack of corporate governance, they have effectively opened up fox news and fox corporation -- >> to a huge financial hit. >> huge legal exposure so they have to do something. i was talking to paul ryan. he privately warned the mar docks and said that's not enough. he has responsibility to the shareholders and not the murdochs. we will see what happens. there is some history here. murdochs news of the world scandal there was some high-profile resignations there, including james murdoch, murdoch's son. this story is only getting start. >> imagine if it goes to stand, some of fox high-profile personalities. >> it would be devastating. imagine rupert murdoch on the stand, loughlin murdoch, sean hannity, tucker carlson on the stand. weeks and weeks of damnk headlines which could damage fox's brand- to preserve the business relationships they have to have some reputation that they are a legitimate news company. i have been saying that

working on a town hall that the former president did with fox and me having to talk directly to suzanne scott in there. we did work hand-in-hand with them and that came at the presence direction. if you did not like something he would immediately call fox and have them fix it or try to make a new story out of it. >> incredible. that is a lot of what we observed on the outside with the press. hannity at a trump rally and that kind of a thing, but just where you are saying right now is some insight we haven't really heard before about this relationship that was going on between fox and the trump white house. >> obviously 2020 hindsight is in 2020. looking back that was completely unethical frankly, so i do apologize for that, but that is how it worked. >> very interesting to we will have to table this discussion for another time. thanks so much for your time. >>> speaking of this. still ahead. he calls it a lot of noise but we unpacked the fox company ceos reaction to the bombshell after bombshell revealal about fox and their most popopular personalities. your live i in the cnn newsroo i'm lind