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and into t future? >>well, the president has been very directbout the fact he wants to always reac out and will aays reach outnd welcome ideas. and you sawit when he just gave his joint session speechhe other day on health care. there are going to be bipartisan ideas and policies in thi alth care bill. be it an idea that senator mccain advocated during presidential primary. it will in the bi. so theinal product wi be bipartisan. if republican or individuals decide to vote for it, that's thr choice. >> ros the policy will be bipartisan. whetr you get votes... >> l's step back. >> rose: not whether you get republican votes or not. >> the republicans have decided in the worst economic crisis-- outse of three of them in the senate-- not voteor the recove act that waso essential to getting u out o the... basically out of what was e jaws of adepression. two, a number of them, though, more than three, jned us in passing the children's health ca bill. seven if my number is exactly right. the coumer credit ca fo

mind it or maybe would like t see it. the sdis andhe entire gulf, the egyptians, yemeis and jordanians would like to not see a nuear iranecause it wod change thealance of power. and there's a religus element in the arab world. most of thoseountries that i ve counted in the arab gu have a lot of shiites among th. iraq, for emple, 65%, saud arabia %,yemen 90%. what if of those shiites if iran obtains a nuclear bo say come prect us,ive us re human rights, maybe they will see an intentio by them to secede. >> so thi would b very worrying from saudi abia who have those large population >> all of thos countries are in fear of iran becauseofthe shiite minorits in their countries. >> what influen do these arab nations, if any, have ove iran >> i would say aside om sir ya, why syria? it is ruled by a site minority. and also their relations with hezbollah, iran would ke to maintain a goo relatiship with hezboah. the ly key to that is syria. sya and iranian relationships are th closest inhe arab world. bedes that no oer arab country

yoare calling anyobile etherou're calling at&t, t-mobile don't worry. >> charlie: palmp.how does one go about saying i'm going to challengehe iphe. it on.n on. as well as ackberry. >> it was palm's decisionto taken ale. palm h had long standing relationship wh sprint. when i saw phone early as d r guys we said, this is a great device. we're goingto put a lot of weight -- >> chaie: do you win oroe dendr loses? >> it has i apact but it esn't determine whether we w or lose. ry important. you look at almost an sprint ad if ere's phone in itt's e palmpre ourxclusive phone, our flagship pho. >> charlie: iit ming a dent in to the iphone market? >>t's doi wel but you' got to almost put iphone to be separate category. apple brand has done so well. like comparing someone michael jord. >> charlie: wn you think of all. this this open debat >> every chrome which i more gear to open system. are we lookg -- are we looking at operating systems which instar net will play creasingly? the votal role? >> solutely. that's really what 4g is going to be all about. voice just becomes applition.

this ithe heart of t conflict. this conflict has been perpetuatefor so many duke -- my latest speech,t wasn't ey r me. d i said we'll recognize a palestinian ste, but we asd do the palestinia recognize the jewish state which ought to be a fairly simple exercise. and i think that'shat they' graping with. >> chaie: what do you think their problem withhe words jewish state is? >> i thi it mea the end of any claims on israel, on the negave or the galilee where you have a sizeabl minority. i ink that also means at there won't be this inflood of refues palestinian refugees. whatever happens isrl as a jewish state cease to exist. itught to besimple to say a ndred years after,ore than a hundred years after hertzel publishehis great manifesto the jewish state and after president obama today -- yesterday i suppose it would be in your time saide needo recognize th jewish state. weecognize the jewish ste. it ought to be a fairly simple exercise from the palestinian ma toe. it's not hamas to say that. >>harlie: was that lguage

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all we t was aggressn. we had no choice but toefend oursees here, gwen. >> ifill: why dn't israel participae, cooperate, tell its side ofthe storyo this u.n. commission. >> first o all the human rights mmission has condemned israel more frequently than allther tions in the world combined. more than libya, morehan north korea,ore than saudi arabia. it's hdly an impartl body. this is the same humanrights commission that copletely ignod ham rocket fire into israel ov the course of four years. the mandate of e commission said that israel was guilt of war crimes, saidothing about hamas in the actual madate. one of the judg involved in the commsion had published a letter accusing israel of unwarranted gression. finally t commission itself, the report, the investigation, tooplace under the ausces of t hamas-run governmt in gaza. hamas actually picked e witsses for this commission. so israel basically was the equivalt o being sumned to a court in which its guilt was already presumed, in which one ofhe jurorers had

gwen: we go t the reports covering the week. ceci connolly of "the washington post", john harwood of cnbc and the "new york times," martha radtz of abc news, dyy. andyy --greg ip of he economist. >> celebrati 40 years of journalistic exclence, live om our nation's capital, thi is "washington wk" with gwen ifl, produced in association with "national joual." corporate funding for "washington week" isrovided by -- >> we know y we're hee. t redefine air travel r a new generatn. >> to ensure our forces are safer and stronger. >> to ake the world we shre toomorrow and beyond. >> around theglobe, et people of boeg re working together to make a difference >> that's why we' here. >> major fundinis also provid by the annenrg, the corporation forublic broadcasti, and by contributions to your pbs station fromviewers lie you. thk you. once again, live from washington, moderat gwen ifill. gwen: good eening. after weeks of closedoor negotiatio and carefully oated trial balloons, we finally got to see t senate finance mmittee's health care plan

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and thadministration had t de with it when school districts around t country were getting calls from angry andpset parentsho didn't want theirchool kids to be indoctrinated. even tugh past sociists such as prgen and george h.w. sh reached out to school dswith their milar stay in schoo messages as prident obama did today with what was a very benign speech that t chairman the florida replican party had to say after he read it yesterday-- becausthe white house d to release it a day early to calm people down-- that it was aine speech that every kid should hr. >> re: and it als eoed one of his favore thes, whichs personal responsibilit >> it is. it was...ou know, in a way it's a sme that it was cover up by this message because i think that the firstfrican american presidentas a very cogent message to send to african american school kid who as you know, have a disproportionately hh rate of dropping out of high school and i think someby regardless of rac who camerom modt meanas have prevus presidents like chard nixon and hers but a lot of them have ce from more privileged bagrounds that he

he was t commander of s.forces to fht al qaed now he's gone to afghantan with a msion to co up with a stragy to implement the objectives that were defined byresident obama when he me in. he believes th what is quired to succeed in the effort a counterinsurgency strategy i thinkwe would irease the risk signicantly if we would on focus on al qaeda and leavthe rest on their own. i thinkproblem in afghantan and the problem with trorism woul increase. >> ifill: does it sound to you listeninto secretary clinton and presidenobama over the last several days tht they e moving away om the suggestion he's made moving away from the assertio the president made not long a ago that thiis a war of necessy? >>erhaps. i hope so. but the gros that threaten the ited states are not in afghanistan. they're in pakistan. al qaeda to wre taliban. aming otherroups) they're all in pakistan. why are we fghting in afghistan? >> ifill:well? answer that estion. because we are there in afghistan that ty have been pushed some o tse groups to

d what does that do to t dialue? >> you knowefore we get to it i believe well need to get both the israelis and the palestinians. the first line has to crossed andnamely... a certain threshd has to be ossed. a line. given the evoluti of this conflict and wre we are today prior t the genesis of it each side has its own narrative o thegenesis of the conflict, how it stted, theature of it, et cetera. rose: who was there. >> unt and unless there is a recognition that palestinians need to have thewn state and that t this ste should happen, you know, this conflict is not ally going to end >> re: do you believe the majority ofsraeli citizens want tha? >> you kno, i belie that is true this is when the process began. it was implicit in the oslo acrds that the palestinian state was going to emerge. it was not explicitlystated. you know going back to the declaration of mutual recognition of 1993 it was not mentioned. it was presumed that there was going to be thispalestinian ate, for sure. in any event the political press was n

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but at t end of the day, it'she president's decision i think that we heard t president saying yesrdays look, you're going to have to convin me that whater decision-- is it classic counterinsurgency wi additional tros? is countersurgency at the sameroop level? is ia different mix of troops? ist a cnterterrorism strate? .... >> warner: fewer troops. >> who knows? what we're looking atthough are the goals that we hve. ougoal is torotect the united states of america, our allies, our friendsround the wod, fro what is the epicenter of trrorism, namely theafghanistan/pakistan rder. i mean jus today we have th announcement inew york about a very impornt terrorm investigioninvolve rg pele from afghanistan. some peoe say, well, al eda is no longer in afghanistan. afghanistan were taken over by the taliban, i cat tell yo how fast a qae would be back in afghanistan. we have to bereally clear-eyed about th. what i'm very gratefulor is that w're not cing in with any ideologil, you know, pre-suppositio. we're not coming in wededo the past. what we try to doin this ministration is to sort out all of

t it's not onl on me. i mean wt has shed all of us is the great expience of the jewish people in the 20th centy. this transformationrom utter powerlessneswhere we wt a win toss lead. i was in bern the other day andisited the villa where the zis met in january of 1942 and deded in a few hours to destro the jewish people. invitation reads, hitler's deputy, the head,ou are rdially invited to a diussion on the finalolution of the jewish people, you know, after breakfast. they say breakfast will be served. and they ate breakfast, a hearty breakfast an they discussed this for several hours nobody batted an eye lash. ey drank cognac an they decided to terminate the jewish pele, people and they did. that was notonditioned. and the stat of israel was estaished to change that coition so thatwe can vern our destiny so that we may still have anti-semitism and the raging fires of hatred of the jewish people ragi around us but for th first time in many many centuries, the jews would have the power to defend themselves,

>>t's voluntary. itould simply guarantee that the is at least one health insurance plan i the exchange like everybo else that ordinary americans can afford and can count to havemore modete preums and yet the same befits or perhaps more. we'll see. it's stable. it's affordable. i believe it saves $50 biion. >> reporter: but utah republan orrin hatch waed a public opti would only make health care more expensive. >> ihought the goal of health reform was to actuall make it re affordable now, letme make a very important point. w i believehat a new government plan is nothing more than a trojan horse for a single-payor systein washinon. washington-runrograms undermin market-based competition through their ability to impose price controls andhift costs to her purchasers. proponents of this government plan seem to count on the efficiency of the fderal government in delivering care for arican families since it is already doing such great job wit our banking and automobile industries. >> reporter: senor rockefel

nuclear inspectors t visit t plt, seen here in satellite ima image, but he said iran isn bound to allow such ipections within one moh as the united states has demanded. and he defended the bilding of the ant and iran's nlear program. >> translator: this plantis to show thatunder no cirmstance will theslamic republic let itsuclear activity in various fids of technogy be stopped for evenone moment. >> this week's talk, as you might imagine, a topping number one on iran's television which aoreported that an's parliament warned u. against additional pessure just tw days aw from that key meetin in geva. >> as the debate over how iran intendto use nriched uranium continue there is another debate. is iran building a warhead for a missile at can carry a nuclear charge in "the w york times" reports a disagreeme between the united states and its key alies on wther iran is in fact designing a warhead. it's the american inteigence assessments that are kaush poups acrding to thetime, americ officials id that iran halted warhd design efforts 2003, a concluon they reached after penetrating ir's comput

i think tt i wish t president talked about a lot more. bui don't see a public option or a non-puic option, either of those thing,really having much of an impact on health care costs. the ings that proce health care costs are dtors, hospals, medica equipment manufacters, pharmeuticals. the insurae companies, sure maybe they're making toouch money, i don know. but their level of profit is not the iue here. the issue is the way the system is now organized, nothing in this bill changes that. >>rose: ri how willery,hat d you think of the esident? >> it was very able perfmance. giving barack obama a teleprompter i like giving a yo-yo ma a cello. it's a can't-miss sort of thing. but undeeath thehetoric about being open to republica ideas anthis door being open althe time was a very tgh an partisan speec it w a speech that basally brushed aside all the concerns we saw in those townall meetgs expressed in august a to the attitude that the oppositiono these plans is basically ill inntioned or ignorant or both. and, you know, look, i think it will p

that was t idea. you can argue whetherr not it was true or not, but that was the ideaf the sort of diaspora jew who lived in exile. and the ear zionis very much nted jews who were physical, who defded themselves. so having an army becam more than just about defending the country, it became a statement of the new kind of jew that was going toome out of the second world war. >> rose: when israel was created it was a triumph of zionism. >> yes. >> rose: whe is zionism today? >> well, it's a strange thing. the znists were kind of revolutionies and you can sort of think about it. theyere part of all the other revolutionary movements the 20th century that we know. expt i sueeded and itas basically goodnd now you have this state. but now so much effort wasut into building the stat now it'sort of like znism has kind of grown old, you know? and ung people don't want to be... consider themselves zionists, evenews. and they have to me from zionism to being israelis and th's a really tricky thingnd that's the thi

where does t president g from this speech in t president? >> well, he's actually got get to getlegislation. ngressman weiner poted out, he kept talki about "my plan, my plan." there is no plan. but i ink it's pretty clear... >> rose: you don buy the argumenthat essentially his plan isthelan comingut of the sete finance... >> i thinke's shifted over esntially to the senateplan. so he's gotto do that. he's got to ttle the public option once d for all, which i ink.... >> rose: what els does he need do on settling it? >> well, i mean he's got to... he sort ofays... he say "i' li it, i understand it's going to go" but he didt explain how it's going to go, what people are going toet in favor of it. the nal thing i ink he has todo... listen, august happened. the summer happened, this bill, at lea until the speech, was stl unpopulaand i thoughte went some way to easing so of that anxiety, especially the last secon of the speech, because itas not aiberal address. it was the left has some ias, the right has somedeas, i'm going to head straight down th

after a drought in t i.p.o. market d to the recession. so is this the begning of a gusher of newly public companies? sct gurvey reports. >> reporte with the market rally, it was ly a matter of time before the green oots of itial public offerings sprouted. after ven months of a virtual shutown in the ipo market, the number of new ises has been rising, ahough it remains ll below last year's levels. last week, a123 systems went public on the nasd. thisompany makes batteries for eltric cars, an industry targeted for fundi in the economictimulus package. investors havelready bid its stock price up by 50 but david menlow of ipo financial network worries ey are being too eculative. >> t big trap for investors are gonna behose companies that come into thearketplace as a result of a stimulus spending tt is coming around the cornernext week, next month, in the next quaer, what have you these are mpanies that will not immediately benefit from whever money is being thrown around butt will be the perception that evyone will getrapped into. >> reporter

t he does t say that if yo do, we will been win. no feignower has ever succeeded in th pre i am not saying we cannot, but it is very dicey, very costly, a we may havelready missed the wdow three four years ago. th president has to fire out whether is is worth wagering a good al of h presidency on deposi. >> he has also got to consider the position he put himse in. mcchrystal is his person out there. he repced the command, most lily on the recommendation of this occurred a defense,ut he replaced the commander o there. he is giving a strategthey said the needed, counterinsurncy strategy, and mcchrystal as tellg him the trh. it is ing to cost. now obama s got to face the challenge of meeting t cost and i am not sure heas it in him to do it. >> colb's right. the war is being run by obama' on general could on th27th of march obama made a speech, anked byhe secretaries of defen and ste, where he began by sayg, "today i announced a comprehensive ne strategy on afghanistan." it is s strategy. for the last six mohs it has be his strategy. an

it's t john wayne appach to foreign plicy. yogot to sger, you got to be tough. you got t walk in.and if y don't, i think acknowledging mistak is notonly the intellectually hest thing to do. it is realism. i mean 's not gointo be a pattern and a habit in every speec b it is a way o signaling and saying thiss a different regme as david calls itit is a different approach. but it is one thing to say we are going to close guantanamo buthen not to really close it andot to take any the people in our ownountry. and then ask other countries why d't you take those people, well substantively thy are still a problem. >> the mcchrystal rort on afghanistanbig deal? >> i thought it was a big deal it remarkable report. >> lehrer: 66 page >> anit's very nest bout where we have been faing and it makes the case quite intellintly thre has been all the talk abouthe troop levels. the tro levels are not the maithing. the main tng is the strategy. and mcchrystal alo with vid petraeusre part of these group theycall the coin group. t counterinurgency strategy whicsu don't just try to kill the bad gu, you h

her people said that in t meeting. you see, it isn't what it is today t what change us make in the amendment process and kning you'll have all republicanmaybe minus one voting against you. that c make it better and hopefully something at i could vote for becse it's abetter product. >> charlie: are you ing to vote for bill tha doesn't include a pubc option? >> you know, would be rd-pressed too. i'd hard-pressed to. people say there two ways of looking at a public option, one the president just said very wellnd that is at it's not the government taking it over, it's not --t's just an entity. it doesn't give government money. haso get money fro its premiums from thpeople who deci to go with it and it' t going to have to make profit. it's a totally nonprofit insunce compan insurance enti and that in turn fors and people will come to understand this more and more as time goes by that it fors otheinsurance companies to lower the cost ofheir insurance. that's the whole point of it you can't just p another insurance companouth

t cause people to think and reize that there are solutis to problems that are facing t country, recognizing that we can applit in other cities. hopefully other mayorsother police chiefs, oth people will see it. i do want -- i do believe tha thcommunity itself has to see thproject, too, beuse that's a large element inside of the correcti, you know what i mean? but if the city hall and the mayor are theirst touch that the citizens have after their house, the family, the neighborhoodcity hall, you know, the yor. so i mayors across the country start to take notice, you wld be used as mel. then inside th model they'll start to contact t people as well from the grass roots and hopefully mething can happen from there. think it's an extremely positive thing. i'd like it to brah out for people to see . maybe on the net that will happen. they still might not get all the deographics, but -- tavis: y'll get them. foresthitaker did a lost great work and he's done it again o this project. e piece is called "brick city." five nights now showi on the sundance channel forest, ways good to have you on the pr

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t us be a little reluctant t say -- i don't believe in the three- shion shot. >>he two-cushion shot is a distinct possibili. let me think somebody else -- pinker sebody else --it did take healthcare righ off the front page that is whethe administration wants to concerate all its energy right n. >> but if you are looking for a w out of this, and you are going to back off, what better way of doing it than t put this o there as a challge, to start this discuion in this debate the way it is going right noover whether we ould do i or not? i'm just not sure i'm ready to conclude -- im not sure it i bado take hped off the front page. it imessy, is sausage makg up the. don't forget that all the lls show t american people deeply waring. this inot something where republicans canake hay. >> wavering o that andn healthare. ohealth care, the numbers are tight. a slight plurality against but really quite tig. both of e policies are real insoble and the president ha to decide. >> we have sought in word and deed andew era of engagement with the world, and now is the time for a

t if the governmes of iran and north kea choose t iore inteational standards, if ey t the pursuit of nuclear weaponahead of r stability, if they are oblivious to the dangers of escating nuclear arms ras in both east asia and the middle eat, then they must be held accountable. >>n an interview with the associatedress, iranian presidt mahmoud ahmadinejad said that he excts xt week's discussions with the wt about ir's nuclear pogram to be free and open, but called on the world's clear powers to give up some of their weapons, too. ist likely nucle negotiations withiran will succeed or are harsher sanctis against iran inevitabl joing us is maour farhang, a professor of internional relations at beningtoncollege. professor farhang was revoluonary iran's first ambassador tthe united tions. welcome to the program. >> pleasure to be here. >> do you thin that these talks,hich are going to b stting next week, are they going to succeed or are harsr sationsnevitable against iran? >> regrettably the talks will not succeed but i'm not sure we'll see harsher sanctio. ey will not succeed because irson

so you've t t doctors. not st the a.m.a. t a broad spectrum of doctorsayingyes, we've got to hav reform." we've got the prmaceutical indury who said "we'll ante up r contribution and hopefully pay for the so-caedlosingf the doughnut hole or subsiding senior citizens to b able to access drugs in the process." we've seen hospitals come to the table and say "we know there's got to be delivery reform so we're taking care of people not just doing at i cal piece work medicine, fee for service medici that's just providing a lot of prescriptions fo procedures that we know have no medical value. $700 billi a year is sted in this country providing procedures that have no known medical value. so we know we've got change the waywe're doingusiness. what we still haven't seen completely forthcoming is whether the insurance indtry willnderstand that now they have an obgation to provide productshat are going to n just cherryick sic.. health peop and ave sick peop to the side but areoing to provide produc that areoing to be both cost effecti

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key issue that the west wantto talk about and that t u.n. security counci has brought u repeatedlyhe continued enchment of uraum as well as the devopment of heavy water rctor technolo. >> the uited states andts european allies have threaten iran with more punitive sanctionsif iran doesot suspend uranium enrichment an israel is closely wching develoents. defense correspondent from channel 10 news of isrel believes that the ntanyahu government will gi diplomacy time to rk, but oly until early ne year. i think thatome time in the beginning of 2010, bot at jerusalem a washington we will have to reasss their position abou iran d theirrethink what need to be done about the nuclear proam. it is no secret at they have a military option against iran. >> for closerook at how the west might resnd to iran, we are joined tonight from washington by far i bors gae ar. thank you for coming on the prram. letme starty asking you, if the we does opt fo hrsher sanctions what kinof areas will be targeted? >> the most lely option will be to tighten t financia con

but for thestudent, t ma thing is they're suming their edation.me are even heing to clear thrubble. most kids hope their schoolill be repd bore the onsetf winter. >> we e hoping we will be able to continue our edation. >> on the outskirts of the capital of minra, girls sit under the shad of a large tree for their lessons as their scol building is still unsafe. 150 schools in swat have been destroyebut the will of the people remains strong, alng wi their determinati to lea as normal a lifes possible. some hools cannot be used by its stunts. but even he, a boy flies kite. the rsh winter is aproaching andit will be to cold to use thtents. for now, the priority is to bud as fast as possible and hope tat peace in the valley is a lasting one. kamahaidar, al jazeer sl islamabad. >>> the killing of a suspected rrorist connected to a long string of dadly bombing from ind near. he was noordin mohammad p. he died in gun fight during raid on a hideout in central indosia. st recently noordin was tied to t july bombingsf the jw marriott andhe ritz-carlton hotel

so tha essentially is t trade off foreople who have insurance. >> and all o these issues and all of t playe are going to be hotly debated in washington. so tell us what happe next. how mu longer is this debate going t go on? >> wow f i knew exactly what was gog to happen next woulbe a fortunate person. but i think here's what we can count and here is wh i'm hearing from the analysts. were in foreeks more negotiations, certaiy on the senateide. we're going to see people, ere's already concern among democrats who tnk that the senate proposal we've seen fro max baucus, e chairman of the finance committee is a little too it doesn't provide generous enough benefits. so they're going to probably want to add more o the nefit side. thatrocess, the negotiion kos go on for a couple o weeks. then whave to get tothe sete floor. that's going to take couplef weeks so are where near the end. i think iis going to take anotr couple of months and it's going to be hard negotiating. >> does the president real want the he care reform bill, will he get it in 2009? >> here's what i'm hearing fr people who f

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in t past the u.s. and europe said at sanctio would be counteroductive helping rally people behind the iranian government. but with so mu discontent on the streets foowing june's disputed electns, some now believe strongeranctions could weaken t government even more. >> lehrer: in waington today >> lehrer: in washingtonoday, white housspokesman robert gibbs said iran's decision t test-fire missiles was "provocative." now judy woodrf continues our ad story coverage. >>oodruff: for more on iran's missile tests turn to karim sadjadpour, an associate at e carnegiendowment for inteational peace. and michl elleman, a former united nations missile inspeor who is now a visiting fell at the international initute for stragic studies. thank you both for bei with us. i'm going to start with u, michael elleman. ese missiles tests, what re do we know about them? >> we know vy little other an the iranian proclamatis. they have not leased videotapes of these specific tests so we don't kn how successfulhey might have be

in which you wand to go to work at at&t. yet at&t were only hiring people from harvard.your sister lived near harvard? >> yes. she lived in boston. >> charlie: she went to see what kind of internship offers they made on the bulletin boards or whatever they did. at harvard because that's where their audience was. >> at the time, i just wanted really good summer internship on my resume. >> charlie: you were at what point in your academic career? >> first year out of -- after my first year of business school, i went to business school my mba right out of under grad i had no significant work experience. my resume was raking leaves, cutting lawns. those kinds of things. i wanted to have a marquee name on my resume before i went out in to the job world. >> charlie: be great to say at&t internship. >> correct. i was at cornell. my sister figured, a lot of the top schools, summer internships are tougher to get, particularly back then but i think still are than full-time job. there aren't nearly as many. she went over to -- i talked to her about going over to harvard she said, ok

>>t will never happ. it's not st the presint but others have said t coressional budget office it will never ce cle to driving e giant insurance compaes out business. now iave my moments sometimes when i wh that wld hapn becae of insurance practis. is fellow from cigna came before the congress committee and became a sort of a folkero antalked about their responsibility a his responsibility t and he grew sickf it from purging people from the rol and finding -- thiss overdramaticut it w ue and someone had acne when they were younger an therefore they don't qualify being insured. thgs that are horric and alwaysappened in americand der the radar >> crlie: is that going to chge? >> you're da right it's going to have to change or it won't get my vote. >> charlie:o you believe there will be health care reform in is congress, first question? i want very much to. charlie, you're aski me a favor question and i'm not givi you a fair answer but t best can i hope so but it will have be better product coming out of fina

t i don't think that... i ink maybe his pubc persona seems more sure footed, but behind the scenes this is... you do. you know, you hear sries about how is really athletic and really into, like, me ereme sports. and it doesn'teemo match up with the keebler elf demeanor has at times. but when you talk to him in person, you see the guy who go down the doue diamon slopes and it's not as tough to see. >> rose: so how would you measure the level of condence of dr. summers? >> he's a... >> rose: (lahs) >> you've had him onour show. i mean,thesere... look,he ople who enter th our... i guess it's dferent. because the world of medias... you have lot of ople who are very insecure fundamentally lookinfor approval. >> rose: (laughs) yes. >> so witho getting into psychoanalyzg you or me, i will s that th world of politics, tse are not a lotf ople who are... who seem be having tooany sleepless nights in terms of their insecurities. maybe they're worried about things tt might haen that they can control. >>ose: as always, t

they are t ends of the spectrum. counterinsurgency some call it nation buiing.it's a manpower heavy te of assignment. you send a lot oforces in. ey secure the area and they help build local overnments. the idea being that they leave a viable sysm in place so that when forceleave, that contry n survive, in this case, ghanistan on its own andnot bring the talin back in so it's securit it's governance andn the case of afghanistan, it al means the training of its my and police. gwen: that'what the 40,000 troops would be r. >> that's rit, they would be part of that. that's one end of the spectrum. the other is counrterrorism. at's a much more lited approa. that calls f using drones and other itelligent-gatheri apparatuto monitor the situation. the idea being there thathe united states can on do so much, that maybee shouldn't be in the busess of nation building. it's considered a moreimited approach, but also deands far less toops and is less stly. both imptant factors given the poll numbers swing the american public is not eager about th war and the economic reities