well speaking of the t.s.a. today november twenty fourth was declared national opt out day a day when airline passengers were supposed to decide whether or not they'll speak up against the t.s.a. the measures forgo the x. ray body scanners and get a pat down in public to show all travelers just how invasive they really are but nowadays arrived it seems like most passengers are pretty calm and there's really not much for protest at all so we can't help but wonder was the t.s.a. hysteria justified because often finds out. there's another case of outrage over t.s.a. pat downs the fury over the pat down it's not exactly dying down it's the t.s.a. versus t.n.a. scanners are turning the tables now men can be judged by their package according to the media the american people don't appreciate being scanned or added down it takes make sure your risk so today on one of the busiest travel days of the year some frequent flyers decided to take action you are saying that the day during the thanksgiving holiday is probably a g

no, the t.s.a. implemented a new more intrusive pat-down message because of the general tightening of air security. the new method involves the touching of the breast and gener general -- genitals. i don't think you got anything in there. there is a sliding hand motion, to use a technical term, sliding hand motion on the body parts where a lighter touch was used before. sliding hand motion. oh, isn't that nice? it's another way of saying fondling, or i'm just car ring. imagine watching in your teenager's room and her boyfriend was there going no, it's just a sliding hand motion. oh, then i'm fine with it! yeah! that kind of sounds more like scene from a danielle steele novel than a security procedural. handbook. what do i know? don't worry about the sliding hand motion, the t.s.a. has thought of everything. you walk in on your daughter and her boyfriend is doing this with a sliding hand, huh? but this is totally different. t.s.a. says it's just sex. so you walk in with your daughter and she has a gi

wouldn't a unionized t.s.a. under the umbrella of homeland security be the best thing i mean why you start to hold new security force when you already have one it's called the department of homeland security. yes glad obama is going to create his own private army and then he's going to rule the world the way he is already the leader of the free world he already commands the u.s. military the largest in the world so why the hell does he need a private army not to mention have you heard the reports about how poorly trained the t.s.a. agents are how they're rushed through how they don't get to work on proper proper monitoring equipment i mean that's not who i would recruit as my personal army but let to ever get tired of scaring everybody about obama staging a worldwide takeover i understand that you and fox news have to gin up stories to scare people to get them to watch but it's the holidays can't we all just get along for a few days when that tonight's top time whatever saying that obama is going to unionize the

you know someone is going to the t.s.a. and saying you know they followed me or they grow up meet appropriately the response is you know what it's in the name of security so they're not backing off so something has to be done and there's so much money they're putting into this and these machines cost i think a couple hundred thousand dollars each i mean it's so expensive they're not going to back off unless you have got our solution though sure absolutely i think you can be safe if you allow the screening procedures to focus on security and not on just throwing things against the wall there are people who do security for a living there are private security firms there are airlines that may do security for their own passengers for example if you want airlines handle their security you have different options southwest will handle their security different delta will or united will and you as the customer can choose how you want to fly and the airline pilots' unions of course are also very upset about this and they're saying th

morgan by silver and you also see t.s.a. and alex jones i know you have been coming up as a guest in the second half of the show. and so finally i want to take you before if we don't stop these guys here's a very important story to look at because you're talking about terror and the financial terror going on here is the headline new york terror watching cameras triple with bomb plots so they talk about all the c.c.t.v. cameras being put near in the financial district of new york city at wall street you think wow the homeland security is finally on our side they're going to start. started viewing these financial terrorist down there no no no no guess who owns these cameras. goldman sachs and the new york fed well you know as i said you know there needs to be this campaign to capitalize you know i would go so far as to pick up on that french revolution thing and of course the reign of terror was all about decapitation this is what we're talking about here is the capitalization we can do capitalize j.p. morgan the financial ter

kelly, the t.s.a. said today pilots won't be subjected to this enhanced screening, but a lot of passengers will be whether they like it or not. >> reporter: that's right, katie. and actually a recent cbs news poll found that four out of five americans are okay with this enhanced screening, but right now that one out of five has the loudest voice. flight attendant kathy bossy does not like the new rules. as a breast cancer survivor, she worried about going through body scanners at charlotte airport in north carolina. after reluctantly being scanned, a t.s.a. agent pulled her aside for a private patdown. >> she put her full hand on my breast and said "what is this?" and i said "it's a troughs thesis because i've had breast cancer." and she goes "you'll need to show me that." it was just so horrific of an experience that it just blew my mind. >> reporter: though the t.s.a. bowed to pressure from the pilots' union allowing them to skipped airport screening by showing two i.d.s, flight attendants and the tr

how is the t.s.a. responding? >> the t.s.a. chief has already said he has no intention whatsoever of changing any policies. as for the question of priffization of security, a t.s.a. spokesman said today that airports are welcomed to apply to do that but added all commercial airports are regulated by t.s.a. whether the actual screening is performed by t.s.a. officers or private companies. t.s.a. sets the security standards that must be followed and includes the use of enhanced patdowns and imaging technology if installed at the airport. in other words, shep, whether it's private agents doing it or t.s.a. agents. the procedures would stay the same, shep. >> shepard: jonathan, we have also heard from security experts, many, one after another after another who say these screeners, that these machines don't do any good and that the screeners themselves should use a little bit more discretion. >> yeah. one of those experts was none other than the former head of security for the israeli airline, generally acknowledged to be the most s

t.s.a. whether the screening is performed by officers or private companies and the t.s.a. sets the standards that must be followed and includes enhanced pat down and image technology if installed at the airport." we should note that the associated press reports congressman has gotten $81,000 in campaign donations from people connected to the private contractors working at airports. he suggested this. for more on how this works, live from washington, dc. >>reporter: they complain that t.s.a. is a bloated bureaucracy with 3,500 administration personnel in washington, dc, and 8,000 in the field but he was an author of an opt out provision which allows the airport to use private security if they wish. when government gets ahold of anything it usually does it in a very expensive and in efficient fashion. >>reporter: you may not get argument on that but that is not going to eliminate the pat down issue. airports can use private contractors but they are governed by t.s.a. rules and the rule is if y

new t.s.a. procedures have fliers up in arms. former governor sarah palin talks about her plans for 2012 in the continuing series. live from the studio in washington, this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. house democrats are expressing sadness and some division tonight. rumblings of tension under lay pointed an ongoing debate over a leadership post for the top african-american member. while one of the most powerful lawmakers of the last half century has suffered a humiliating fall from grace. here is correspondent james rosen. >> reporter: for two-and-a-half years in front of cameras and behind closed doors, congressman charles rangel fought to stave off the moment but never contested the underlying charge against him. the 80-year-old democrat who represented harlem for four decades finds his options narrowing. >> count ten. conduct of vode of violation of ethics. >> the panel found rangel former chairman of the tax writing ways and means committee guilty of 11 violations of house rules, including failure to dis

next up, t.s.a.at-down and x-ray screening. ooo >>> we want to be sensitive to people's concerns about privacy, about their personal being and things. while ensuring that everybody on every flight has been properly screened. >> i don't think that the government has the right to look under the clothes of anyone it wants without reasonable cause. i think we need to set a limit between security and privacy. i think it takes at it step too far. >> bret: that is one virginia man who says the t.s.a. is going too far at the airport and organizing an opt-out day wednesday before thanksgiving, saying air travelers should opt out of the full body scans in favor of a pat-down. slow things down. that should be fun. meanwhile, the t.s.a. is defending its efforts to keep people safe. we're back with the panel. fred? >> this can not go on this way for sure. people running t.s.a. have to get a grip. when you go on the internet it's bubbling over with video of a 3-year-old for heaven's sake going please don't touch m

head of t.s.a.while no policy changes are imminent the agency will work to make methods as minimally invasive as possible. that brings us to the answers to the water cooler question of the day. do the new methods are you rethinking plans. derrick says i will not change my travel plans to fly. i realize why we have to undergo the extreme measures for safety. i just wish they didn't have a body scanner because it is an invasion of privacy. >> the simple fact that security has been acceptstepped up to x- and body searchs scares me enough to not fly. that is why they call it terrorism. >> janet says i'm thinking of avoiding flying. i'm not sure which is more embarrassing the full body or hands on. i understand the need for security but metal detectors are invasive enough. maybe flying is too friendly. i think i will take the train. we will post more answers on the front page of the website. >> good morning. sarah caldwell checking the morning commute. it is a foggy start. it may slow you down a bit. the

today the head of the t.s.a. john pistole pleaded with travelers not to boycott body scans saying that would only tie up the lines. pistole will be talking with him in a moment, by the way, also said he's taking another look at the new procedures including patdowns, as he tries to balance security and privacy. and for a perfect spikive about one million passengers have been patted down in the past month, and just a fraction of those, 700, have complained. don teague is at the dallas fort worth airport tonight. don, the numbers may be small, but some of the stories we're hearing are pretty outrageous. >> reporter: they sure are, seems every day we're hearing new stories of humiliation and outrage, as the t.s.a. walks a fine line between p. r. and safety. >> that's not right. >> reporter: this grandmother sandra murdic says she felt violated at houston's airport when a t.s.a. agent made her take off her underwear during a patdown in a private room, her artificial knee had set off alarms. >> we've always told our ch

>>neil: the t.s.a. chief is getting all hell at the hearings going on, it is supposed to be security, and everything now to do with the whole situation. >>judge napolitano: he has the whole name now of "is -- "pistol." >>neil: and the judge's show is each night at 8:00 on fox business network and he gets worked up about stuff. you should cash legal when he is annoyed by the money supply. after all the spending they are worried about the deficit. did you hear this? >> i don't see how we can afford to borrow an additional $700 billion from other countries we cannot afford the additional staff. >> a republican senator who could be a republican presidential candidate is not buying the deficit conversion. funny how nature just knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxidants. refreshingly good. consider this: these duracell batteries were given... to the mattel children's hospital, u.c.

pistole to reconsider the t.s.a. screening rules on the heels of horror stories throughout the country, women feeling assaulted. we know of the "don't touch my junk" but there are horrifying stories, some claiming assault after the searching. >> what stopped me cold when i saw this, kathy from charlotte, north carolina, has been a flight attendant for 32 years and in august she was asked to go through the null full body scanners at charlotte international airport and she says she did not want to add the extra radiation because she is a breast cancer survivor and they went through the pat down and a woman gets to a point where she has a right breast prosthetic and the person wanted to see it. that was a story that stopped me and i said this is going too far. >> is the flight attendant complied and she felt she had to show the t.s.a. worker her device and she felt humiliated and assaulted so she complained to her union which then approached the t.s.a. and that was not following procedure. they are allowed to ask what i

that's a t.s.a.olicy. >> laura: it's a stupid policy. >> they are permitted to pat your head down. they watch you do it and then they swab your hands. >> laura: i have a question. this is going to seem really odd. when you go through screening and you are in your full robe, i'm not sure what you call the thing around your neck. you are going through t.s.a. >> right. >> laura: do you take everything off through the x-ray machine? or no? >> i take my shoes off, i take jackets off. i go through the same process everyone else does. the only thing that stays on is a head scarf. >> laura: do they make you take your neck covering off. >> no. if the neck covering is attached to the head scarf it stays on. if that gets me to secondary screening, then i have the right per t.s.a.'s policies to pat my own head down under their supervision. >> laura: how about your groin area? do you get to pat that down. >> no. all of that remains the same for all passengers. >> laura: that's again sharia law i understand. >> th

i know t.s.a. screeners are now having to deal with some very sensitive issues, as we just heard, cancer patients, people who may have prosthetic glands. have they been required to go through additional training as a result of this? >> each security officer is held to the highest level of professionalism. and our goal is to treat each and every passenger with dignity and respect. now, obviously, from the report we just heard, that apparently has not appeared-- happened. i did talk with one of the passengers you interviewed this afternoon and we had a good discussion about what his experience was, and we finished the conversation by him offering to provide training and assistance to our screeners, basically to sensitize them to the issues that are involved. so that's our goal. we're nearly 2 million people traveling every day, that is the challenge that we deal with. but each security officer is trained to deal with those situations. >> couric: and that certainly shows your contention that this prog

. >> reporter: the t.s.a. says at most only 3% of travelers are getting padded down, roughly 60,000 out of two million a day. but an online protest campaign is causing concerns. businessman brian sodergren is urging travelers to opt out of the ten-second body scan and insist on a slower patdown as a way to gum up a system he finds invasive and unnecessary. >> how much are we willing to let government poke and prod us and are we willing to let them see under our clothes just because we bought a plane ticket? >> reporter: sodergren says he'll drive this thanksgiving rather than submit to the t.s.a. rules. but air travelers worry that if some fliers do what he wants, it could make a bad situation worse. >> i would be more frustrated with the people planning the boycott than actually the security itself just to get done. we all want to go home. >> reporter: that's why robert himes traveled from pennsylvania to wisconsin by car. >> we've been through airports before with our kids, but the hassle through the airport

head of t.s.a. says the screenings are part of an evolving program that are being refined to strike a balance between security and privacy. as america heads to the busiest travel day of the year the public uproar continues over new aorta security screening -- airport screening. body scans and patdowns that are called invasive. >> i don't want people to be irradiated and sexually assaulted by t.s.a. agents. >> even hillary clinton said she would hesitate to submit to a patdown. >> not if i could avoid it. who would? >> still, clinton joined other white house officials in defending the methods. >> if we are to detect terrorists who have proven to be innovative and creative in their design and implementation of pwoplts that will blow up airplanes we have to do something that prevents that. >> in a statement to politico the head of the t.s.a. says the program will be adapted as conditions warrant to make procedures as minimally invasive as possible. a shift in stance amid criticism the new rules were no

a head of the t.s.a. answered some of the questions last night. >> we have exempted children 12 and under from the pat down we do. everyone has a right to opt out of the advanced imaging but you will receive a similar level of screening, a thorough pat down. we do not want to have someone like a christmas day bomber go to an airport and opt out and think he will be able to get through. >> that doesn't make sense. he did not get on in america. remember? he got on in yemen. the other terrorists have not been getting on aircraft in the united states. there is nothing that can happen in the other countries but the t.s.a. doesn't operate there. >> you make a great point, what the new back scanner machine is supposed to do is detect nonmetal weapons so the metal detector can only do so much and terrorists have gotten more creative and we need something new. the first line of defense, the pilots and the flight attendants objected to the machines because of increased radiation. the pictures of the machines were i

the t.s.a. is working overtime to reassure passengers, promising that images aren't sure and the scans have safe levels of radiation. a cbs news poll finds 81% of americans are okay with that. >> i'd rather have a body scan than being pat down. >> this weekend president obama seemed to indicate the furor over privacy would lead to changes down the road. >> what i've said to the t.s.a. is you have to constantly refine and measure whether what we're doing is the only way to assure the american people's safety. >> reporter: yet t.s.a.'s administrator appeared dug in, in this interview today. >> we're not going to change anything. >> no, not going to change. >> reporter: but within hours, t.s.a. issued statement clarifying the door is open to changes. it says security procedures "will be adapted as conditions warrant to be as minimally invasive as possible." t.s.a. says 99% of passengers are consenting to the full body imaging. interestingly, while we were observing today, most of the passengers wer

been to t.s.a. lately?u don't know them, is my point, you have never met these people, this is now how i would choose to meet people. >>jonathan: junk touching strangers is a bizarre way of. much. touching. shipship urgely --ship usually you have coffee first. >>jonathan: and your kids are going through or your 1-year-old daughter and you are going to do what now? i don't want my daughter radiated or for you to have a picture of her and i dam sure don't want you to town her in a way that only her doctors do. >>jonathan: a lost people are concerned about that. >>shepard: the homeland security secretary says they are willing to listen >>jonathan: we will try out a lot of different methods before anyone agrees. >>shepard: when when they took the lighters away. they left the matchers but took the lighters. and now, great to see you. more comments at foxnews.com/shep and the don't want to deal with a lot of flibbity-flab or mumbo-jumbo. sounds like you need to name your price. no gobbledy-gook? never. do i still

t.s.a. security screening experts and met with their prime minister and minister of transport to say, what are you doing? how can we work with you? to your point, senator hutchison, what are your current protocols, processes, what can we do in terms of capacity building, training tech neengs, tactics, and technology? we've taken specific steps which i'll be glad to get into in response to questions. i can go into considerable detail in my written statement on that plot. we continue to work with our international partners on the number of issues that relate to both passenger and cargo flights and a lot more we can talk about in that regard. i want to update you on my review of t.s.a. surface transportation program priorities because that's a significant issue we are addressing. we continue to work with surface transportation providers, particularly passenger rail and mass transit, close vulnerability gaps with a risk-based, intelligence driven process. we want to target grant funds on high-ri

supporting t.s.a. workforce and strengthening the partnerships with stake holders and the traveling public. with that, chairman dorgan and ranking member hutchison, i will be glad to take your questions. thank you. >> thank you very much for your test mind your description of what your seath doing. in fact, i would like to ask just a couple of questions. someone this the issue of background screening for workers who work in and around the airport. all of us who travel see a lot of people that are serving in different ways on the airport grounds and i know they are screened for background screening. there is a current process for that screening as i understand which involves in large part the private sector and you are preparing to begin to change that. maybe you can describe to us what you that change might be and how you are proceeding and why it is necessary. my understanding is that the aviation workers said about 1/3 of the cost of port workers screened by the federal government whereas aviation wo

the legislation that gave t.s.a. create t.s.a. and give it all this power this that they only had to operate as with the government screening for two years they haven't had to do this for a very long time and i think they're continuing to do it because working for the public sector is a great job it's great money but yeah a lot of people point out that these machines are totally unnecessary that if you if a terrorist wants to put a bomb in their underwear and then you make them go through an x. ray machine that will put a bomb in something else they'll put it in a laptop there are. other ways to get something out people right are starting to fight back we have people calling for national opt out days but that if we look at who it is that's peddling these machines are the reason we got into this discussion if we look at people like michael chertoff who he's consulting firm actually you know works with the firm that makes these back scatters and yet he's on live t.v. telling people that this is a necessity because we live in a dange

earlier he noted that the t.s.a. procedures are not necessarily set in stone. >> what i agreed to do is to look at how we can do this type of screening if we can do it less invasively has been the request than i am open to doing that. >> shepard: we're told not to expect any quick fixes that means, of course, thanksgiving threaferls could be in for hassles. our news correspondent steve centanni at reagan's international airport tonight. steve, i guess it could take a while for the t.s.a. to change its patdown procedures? >> well, that's right, because the t.s.a. is saying for now they are not changing their policy. the policy includes those back scanners, full body scanners, if you refuse to go to that do you get the patdown. but they stress only a small number of people are going to find themselves in that position because not every airport across the country has these scanners. in fact,, at this airport there are only four and all across the country there are 400 at 70 different airports. all of, this of course, be

the head of the t.s.a. urging passengers not to boycott body scans because it could cause delays during the travel wish but people will anyway because the delays might change the policy. our national correspondent continues the coverage at reagan national airport in washington, dc. do we expect any real changes to the screening policies? or do the people have no voice? >>reporter: the people have a voice and the t.s.a. says they want to hear from people and they want to hear concerns and deal with the situation. as jntsly as possible. but we do not expect immediate changes to those that some consider embarrassing pat downs or the revealing imaging or images taken at the gate. that is because there is a real security threat and they want to make sure there is nothing that happens on the busy thanksgiving travel holiday. here is the head of the t.s.a. this morning. well, anyway, he said he wants to be as minimally invasive as possible but did not talk about concrete changes to the policy and he said there wil

now tyner was threatened by the t.s.a. that if he didn't agree to a pat down he could face a ten thousand dollars fine and a civil suit so tired declined again and then got a refund forced ticket for you know this incident does raise the issue once again our full body scans and invasive pat downs really necessary several passengers have claimed the pat down is like getting molested out of the body scanners have already caused trouble over a very intimate and personal pictures getting leaked not to mention x. ray exposure and this idea of paying customers being assumed guilty before proven innocent well it's not sitting well with a lot of people taking to the skies so could this encounter become the new slogan for the growing protest against the t.s.a. if you touch my junk i'll have you arrested just to have you know the video is going viral with more people viewing this passengers follow a blog post it could become a way to fuel fliers across the country so i'm just saying come november twenty fourth airports around the co

the t.s.a. is refusing to budge on their controversial policy that involve full body scans and intrusive patdowns of passengers. however, they announce today that pilots will get a pass on some of the screening procedures. but complicating matters the government refuses to profile passengers who are most likely to blow up planes. many americans don't think grandma and little kids are a threat to passenger safety but the feds apparently disagree. the burning question: should there be any limits on what the government can do under the guise of keeping us safe? joining us now is the man responsible for making those calls t.s.a. administrator john pistole. mr. pistole, thanks for coming in tonight. now, you are aware that there is a growing backlash in the country against this kind of what's viewed as intrusive, maybe overly aggressive techniques being used by t.s.a. at the airport. and then i just heard you say in the tape that we played from yesterday and when you were in front of congress, you ar

. >> shepard: even the t.s.a. boss a bit uncomfortable. >> it was more invasive than what i was used to. >> shepard: so is it all just a bit too much? tonight, congress asks questions. >> what's the impression of all of that? >> shepard: and some pilots take action. plus, controlling cholesterol. if exercise isn't working and watching your diet is a drag, well, scientists have just come up with something new and one doctor says it could be the biggest break through in a decade. but first from fox this wednesday night. an historic courtroom defeat for the united states government in the case of this first guantanamo bay detainee to be tried in american civilian court. this man, an accused terrorist found not guilty on 284 counts, all of the serious charges. murder and attempted murder. not guilty. there is one guilty verdict. conspiracy to destroy buildings and u.s. property. prosecutors accuse the man ahmed ghailani helping to bomb two united states embassies in 18998, one in kenya, one in tanzania. twin attacks t

the fact that the t.s.a.achines in 60 largest airports means many airports in the country don't have any of the machines at all. and there is a consequence instead of using the equipment as secondary screening for someone would has exhibited suspicious characteristics, which would be possible if they were spread out across the whole system, we use them as primary screening, they are too slow, too expensive, and the pat downs are simply offensive. as a practical matter, as a security issue, they are not doing any good. we are asking pilots to go through. i call it to everyone's attention if the pilots want to do anything adverse with respect to the airplane they don't need a bomb. >>neil: but what happened to the old way? you didn't have to go through a pat down. now we are told that we do a pat down or we do, depending on the airplane, a machine that is eating you in your birthday seat. when did we get so touchy feely? >>guest: i think the problem you have is sort of a political problem in the sense that no o

now whether you are for or against it there's a lot of buzz out there going on around the new t.s.a. pat downs whoopi goldberg made a comment over the weekend saying that personally she's ok with it but several others are very much against the hands on approach people like airline pilots and even secretary of state hillary clinton who says that she wore the security measure if she could now while politicians are attempting to fix this little p.r. mess many people out there have made light of the privacy invading pat downs saturday night live had a sketch portraying the t.s.a. workers which is now gone viral on the web and singer but county that a remake of an old country music tune called you can trust the t.s.a. . well run money inside you said. your legs. which you can trust to see. you so you know you have a p.r. problem when they write a song about you but it gets even better now guys created underwear with a fig leaf in the front so that you're not baring all for these backscatter machines and a scientist even offered of this gem of idea he said why not just distort the images s

now head of the t.s.a. is speaking out. >> but first, a quiet morning. >> and welcome back, everyone. 4:39 this thursday morning. a check of traffic and weather. it is a quiet thursday. that's a nice change. >> yes, we don't have high winds to talk about or rain to talk about. we don't have to recap any thunderstorms. we just have good, typical november weather today. we'll start the day with sunshine. mainly clear skies overhead with clouds over the mountains. off to our southwest where we have some action now. a little disturb nance or a dip in the upper level flow causing some light rain all the way out to the gulf of mexico. it is going to push eastward. most of it should fall apart before getting here. limited sunshine today. we'll see it. it is just going to be limited mainly to the morning hours. a few breaks here and there. martinsburg, 41. frederick at 43. an increase in clouds later this morning. high in the mid 50's, exactly average for this time of year. light west winds. sunny and dry tomorrow

now the t.s.a.opened up an official investigation targeting tyner which could lead to prosecution and fines up to $11,000. his story seems to have touched a nerve in a nation that's increasingly concerned aboutbe how intrucetive the security measures have become. "usa today" today, op-ed, published, homeland security secretary janet napolitano insists the methods are safe, efficient and protect passenger privacy and the technology quote cannot store, export and transmitt images. yet, today, they're reporting that the u.s. marshals in florida improperly and illegally saved thousands of the images on the scanner. some of which may have been leaked online. meanwhile, according to the council on islamic relations, the new pat-down policy may violate the certain religious rules and kept to muslim woman's head and neck area only. it seems unlikely this argument will make headway judging from the t.s.a. chief john pistole's testimony earlier on capitol hill today. >> we want to be concerned about people's

but at this point, t.s.a. in consultation with our counterterrorism experts have indicated to me that the procedures that they have been putting in place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat that we saw in the christmas day bombing. every week i meet with my counterterrorism team and i'm constantly asking them whether is what we're doing absolutely necessary? have we thought it through? are there other ways of accomplishing it that meet the same objectives? bill plant. >> thank you mr. president. nato's commitment to afghanistan extends through 2014, what about the u.s.? it's possible, given the circumstances that there maybe a need for troops and combat action after 2014, is the u.s. committed? if it's your decision, will you keep troops committed in a combat role if necessary? . and united states is part of nato so we are scommeetly aligned in what we're going to be doing. our goal is that the afghans have taken the lead in 2014 and in the same way that we