and presumably, this taliban escalation is -- certainly not to have complete taliban control.d they bring to bear on this equation? >> all the players in the region, the iranians, russians, chinese, indians, pakistanis, they all have their own desired outcome, priorities, and those do not align. you will see a lot of jostling for power. you will see attempts at patronage and proxy warfare. as this situation develops. and typically, from my study of insurgencies, the more entities involved, the longer something lasts so that is not a good sign. >> what is your gut feeling about where this is heading? >> heading into 2022, we will be looking at and afghanistan controlled by the taliban in large portions of the country. not entirely. at that time, we are likely to see the growth of transnational jihadist groups like al qaeda, like others. my main concern, my main fear is that afghanistan one -- once again turns into a magnet for foreign fighters and there is a mobilization which acts as a force multiplier for many of the most dangerous terrorist groups there. >> what is your sens

replacing it with a taliban flag.e have seen that a lot in the capital. it has left a lot of people very upset. >> the international monetary fund is withholding 400 60 million dollars from afghanistan citing a lack of clarity over government recognition. the u.s. has frozen $9.5 billion of afghan government assets. nearly the entire reserve of its central bank. the u.s. defense secretary has concluded evacuations from kabul have not met their target. lloyd austin has said american troops don't have the capacity to extend the on the airport perimeter to get -- to help you get more people out of afghanistan. the british prime minister says the u.k. will do all that can to avert a humanitarian crisis in afghanistan. boris johnson says he does not believe military action against the taliban is an option. president joe biden says he disagrees with the world health organizations warning against giving coronavirus booster shots. he has unveiled plans to offer them from september. stay with us. inside story is up next. ♪ >>

— taliban promising? well, taliban narsinah taliban promising?liban i narsingh they will not harm anyone, they will not target anyone. —— taliban are saying. but we will have to see how the taliban transition from the military attacks into the politics and what sort of a government we might be looking at but it is definitely something that was in the making of the last few days if not weeks. my colleague said to you earlier on, the messaging from the government was also confusing. president ghani said he was working on reorganising the afghan security forces while he has literally long lost all of us cards, the military has surrendered, the senior government has surrendered so it is still a very fluid and confusing situation. why do you think it has _ confusing situation. why do you think it has been _ confusing situation. why do you think it has been reported i confusing situation. why do you think it has been reported thatl think it has been reported that caliban spokesman has instructed taliban fighters to stay out of kabulfor taliban fighters

so the taliban went to war with the taliban let afghanistan in 2000. what we have seen with iran over the more recent years, particularly with its relationship -- particularly as its relationship with the u.s. got worse, it started to funnel arms to the taliban. i think that's was -- that was meant to poke the u.s. in the eye and present more strength to america's rival in afghanistan. for iran, its major interest and concern is the she a muslim community in afghanistan. they are the religious minority in afghanistan, a very vulnerable community. the taliban, many of the murder. i run will wordy -- worry about their security. i think they will look to get reassurances that [indiscernible] iran does have a potential asset in afghanistan. there is a shia built militia on afghanistan that iran cultivated to deploy to the middle east and fight in the wars there. iran has the option if things came to to reconstitute that afghan/shia militia and try to deploy to protect the shieh community. that is an advantage iran has. final point, it worries about the tal

under the new taliban taliban administered afghanistan. rob, so we're waiting for this press conference to start because he intends discussions on their own stage. you know, it's, i can show what's happening and various assembled media representatives waiting for this press conference to start at rob say, how is the situation in, in cold today after the celtic scenes that we saw on monday, it continues to be slightly surreal. it is quite a calm on the streets. it is quite tense. there is an uneasiness, the tension in the air. we are seeing far more taliban on the streets today tuesday than we did. monday, yesterday, monday was the 1st day that people really started to go out and about and looking with absolute amazement, in some cases, curiosity, and other cases. these new covers people were taking cell fees. they were shaking hands with them. they were looking at in amazement at these taliban as they took up their positions, manning, roadblocks, and so on. we have seen far more a taliban stream in to cobble the capital overnight from outs

the taliban were back in charge.ed to kabul airport, desperate to escape the country. 0thers hid in their homes. we gave them every chance to determine their own future. we could not provide them with the will to fight for that future. western politicians scrambled to make sense of the chaos. it would be fair to say... the collapse has been faster than even the taliban predicted. what is not true to say is that the uk government was unprepared or did not foresee this. after 20 years trying to rebuild the country, had it all been for nothing? the feeling of abandonment, of not just a country, - but the sacrifice that my friends made. i my friend massoud managed to board one of the last commercial flights out. suhail shaheen has continued to defend the ideology of the new taliban, making a call to me live on air. we're just going to see if we can put you on speaker. but will the taliban stick to their word? or could there be a return to the darkest days of public executions and the extreme suppression of women's rights

ambassador basically to the taliban negotiations has askedal the taliban, do not come into kabul under strength under the americans are out. so, it's not a question of they're not coming in, it's don't come in until americans and their allies are evacuated hopefully within 72 hours. the initial troop withdrawal from afghanistan to target multiple cities in recent days. this morning the taliban did seize control of the eastern city of jalalabad near the pakistan border. just yesterdaypa the taliban captured sharif after we were on air yesterday morning and jalalabad and kabul are still in government possession and now only one of those three cities are under control of the government.co we're not sure how much control the government has over kabul. this follows the taliban's recent capture of key cities of kandahar and, their spiritual home and take over of the country. right now 25 of the 34 capitals are in taliban control and only one major city is not and that major city is kabul. joining me from there because you are going to find this man in a place where everybody else has left in

yes, the taliban are letting people through right now but the taliban is the taliban so the chances of something breaking out is there. it is not without risk. host: in illinois, you are next. caller: good morning. a long time ago i watched a documentary called -- about a forward base in a valley. soldiers were getting shot at from the high ground. as an unsophisticated person, you would watch this and say who would put a forward base in a valley. my point is this, we were there for 20 years. we were told this was not vietnam. why did we fail? what would it have taken to win? did we need to use tactical nuclear weapons? did we need to change completely the rules of engagement? how could we have won? as assumed people had thought this out about why we were there. what did winnie look like and why didn't we win -- what does winning look like and why didn't we win? host: thank you for the call, bill. guest: that base was in the cornwall valley. i have been to the cornwall valley. the soldiers in that unit were there for 15 months, day after day of patrolling and standing watch and trying

the taliban would never accept that. but we had been expecting that it would be some sort of form of woods that would go to the negotiators in doha, that maybe they could ratify that may might lead to some sort of transitional government or kind of a can take a government that might, might then call, say, a lawyer, joe, one of these big gatherings of people being brought in from all over afghanistan to discuss the shape and form of a new government. all that seems to have evaporated very quickly. we, we now left wondering what exact the, of what type of new government were facing. and as far as some officials, taliban officials are concerned, they are just talking about a straight handover of power. why do they need to share power with anybody that doesn't seem inferior, at least anybody to share with so that it seems to be what they are talking in terms of now, it was a straight handover of power. and this evening, at least we do seem to be saying that, you know, in reality as a straight physical, a grabbing of power, i

the taliban have...l, what we see right now is the united states has cut off all of afghanistan's dollar reserves. that's billions and billions of us dollars. we see the imf has also, for the moment, suspended all economic assistance to afghanistan. we see an economy that, until two weeks ago, was 40% reliant on international economic aid and assistance. that's all gone. you'd think if the taliban were serious about trying to get some of those economic lifelines restored, they might be doing more to reach out in terms of guaranteeing rights, guaranteeing political pluralism. we're not seeing it. yeah. and that's what we are trying to get them to understand, the severity of the economy of the country, the enormity of the responsibility on their shoulders, and they must... time should be of the essence, enough urgency to them and that a political settlement, absolutely something that the economy of the future of this country will depend upon. and we hope they realise the enormity of the responsibility that

they took the taliban on trust. tell of on once they pulled out their forces would negotiate with, with the african government that they come up with a unity government. i don't think that president trump restart does negotiations. all president biden was perhaps following the words that we used to hear from ronald reagan that russian program he used to. he used to was site trust, but verify will corey for the vasic fall, i will be felt foreign. why age? you had the us fax, you see fancy blinking on the american television earlier claiming that the commonplace. absolutely. everything they had to this was not a failure of any shape or for may be interesting to see if you'd stand by those remarks. given the scenes that were broadcasting here on al jazeera, just in terms of where the un funds on this james. we understand that the un security can so are likely to be meeting to discuss this. it looks like they're going to have an awful lot to talk about it sooner. absolutely, the situation is moving so fast, there was a

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the american government lamed the taliban -- blamed the taliban for harboring al qaeda. taliban says it has changed since it was last in power. we have more on how they may govern this time around. reporter: step-by-step, a return to rule. ever since the taliban signed a deal last year with the u.s., their old enemy, they have been emboldened. moments like this started to shift their international image. then suddenly, this summer, district by district, they were back in charge. these scenes were recently filmed for us in a province at the gates of kabul. scenes of an orderly transition, the taliban taking over, taking care of the people. but more grislyeos have been surfacing. alleged abuses and atrocities. whato you say to those who fear the return of the taliban? >> they should not fear because the government that will come after this will be acceptable to all. reporter: taliban rule that returns to afghanistan will be different than the one they govern so harshly in the lat 1990's. we have reported on the change, however imperfect over the last two decades. no one ex

the taliban have not changed.hat words from the teller banning kabul do not reflect the reality. we changed his voice. as i am talking to you right now, girls are not allowed to go to school where i am. many women are not allowed to work. even before the taliban took control, afghans were suffering. now across the country, there are real fears for the future. the world may have left, but afghanistan still the international red cross is on the ground continuing its humanitarian effort. the international red cross is on the ground continuing its humanitarian effort. the international red cross is on the ground continuing its humanitarian effort. is on the ground continuing robert mardini is the director general of the international committee of the red cross and hejoins me now. the international red cross is on the ground continuing what is your main worry now? the main worry — what is your main worry now? tie: main worry beyond the horrific blasts we have seen at kabul airport, a stark reminder and of ho afghans st

does he cut a deal with taliban taliban the -- with the taliban?any issue with the withdrawal? can it be conducted in an orderly fashion? in the coming days and weeks, i expect al qaeda and other terror groups, keep in mind the united nations called the deputy mayor of the taliban and military strategist who is the man with the plan to take over afghanistan. host: there's also a call for a human emergency meeting. guest: this is all perfunctory. the time for diplomacy and a stern word of statements has long passed. diplomacy and a stern word of statements, that's what got us here. the u.s. officials thought there was a diplomatic solution when the taliban always had a military solution. host: bill roggio, you can find his reporting and his work. we appreciate your time. guest: thank you for having me. it was a pleasure. host: we are going to take a short break. woman come back, we will continue talking about afghanistan. -- when we come back, we will continue talking about afghanistan. was leaving afghanistan a mistake? yes, no, unsure and afghan w

with the taliban. given the fact that the united states heavily relied on the taliban kind of in the closing hours of its withdrawl. but morden area, american, see the taliban still is america's enemy, not a friend. and so there is some confusion about how this diplomatic process will work . moving forward, now, what this administration has continued to suggest is that what the taliban wants most of all is legitimacy. particularly on the international stage. and so as any blake and the secretary state was very clear that he said, this is something that will have to be earned in terms of living up to international commitments. the other part of the speech was really just to reassure the, the afghan populace. if you will, that america is not going to even though it's withdrawn. forget about the people, not only that are still there, but also in terms of humanitarian assistance. what the united states promises to do and what can be expected. kimberly and president biden's come on the growing pressure beca

s. taliban deal was signed in february of 2020. you will remember that we would see a reduction of violence. we did not. there had been an expert to expectation when the talks between the african republic and the taliban began in september of last year. that we would see a reduction of violence. we have not. there had been an expectation that when international troops left, we would see a reduction of violence. we did not. instead, despite significant concessions for peace, we have seen a 50 percent, 50 percent increase in civilian casualties with the certainty of many more as the cities are attacks. there is a striking contrast between the activity on the battlefields and the quiet stalemate as a negotiation table in doha, where we should be seeing the opposite quiet on the battlefield. an engagement around the negotiating table. mister president, i have focused a day on the war against cities because a party that was genuinely committed to in a go shaded settlement would not risk so many civilian casualties. because it would unde

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today i saw the taliban in kabul. - taliban in kabul now? yes. today i saw the taliban in kabul.aw the taliban in kabul. we were | saw the taliban in kabul. we were out in the western outskirts of city and there was a stream of taliban fighters coming out of the city on captured police rangers, and they're being cheered by by standers and little children running after them. it was an extraordinary scene. what about the institutions, the authorities, the security forces in kabul, what happened to them? they have completely meanted away —— melted away, collapsed. it started today. there was a rumour the taliban were inside the city. it wasn't true, they were on the outskirts. but soon you saw police abandoning their posts and changing into plain cloths and soon the city was full of soldiers without their uniforms trying to get out, to not be the last ones killed in a war that was lost. and the taliban was sending people to government facilities to facilitate a handover, so they weren't in the city in the force today, but the transition is very much under way. t force today, but the

how united are the taliban as a group fan? do you i taliban as a group fan?s within the group? 0r factions within the group? or do they tend to have a very shared sense of what the country should look like? welcome on the surface, it looks good, but there is quite a difference between them. there are commanders who fought the afghan forces before a week ago who were killed and wounded. their view of this government is that they won this war and they have the right to mandate to rule however they want however, political leadership might be inclined to accommodate and different political sections and different political views. there are divisions. we have yet to see those divisions hire how deep they are, after consultations emerged from the meaningful consultations emerge. meaningful consultations emerue. , , , , emerge. just very briefly, there are _ emerge. just very briefly, there are four— emerge. just very briefly, there are four essays - emerge. just very briefly, . there are four essays holding out against the taliban. they are still fighting, there is

to the taliban.liban government, and will probably be recognising it. russia has had talks already, but encouragingly, russia special�*s envoy to afghanistan has spoken to his opposite number in the us, so thatis his opposite number in the us, so that is encouraging because the only way that is going to be lasting peace in afghanistan is if all the countries in the region can agree on what it looks like. i have to say that to looking down the future, i think the west will be a lot less relevant. china will want its mineral resources from afghanistan it russia well one day peaceful stable border or border area on those southern republics that stand between afghanistan and its own territory. iran has its own interests there. ararat is very close to the iranian border. but all of those countries will certainly china, russia and iran that have bad relations at the united states will, to some extent, i think, be not exactly growing, but certainly want to be back to satisfied to see the humiliation of a co

there is a huge pakistani taliban presence, people disaffected by the pakistani taliban or who were inups who crossed over into isis. this is seen as a for tile battle space -- as a fertile battle space by isis. >> let me get this straight. what you are saying also is the group, in your opinion, wants to establish a caliphate and also wants to reestablish some sort of relevance in afghanistan. >> they are already relevant. they just have to expand their operations. they have to take advantage of the strategic vacuum that has been created. they will want to expand into pakistan as well, where there is fertile ground. places on the western periphery of afghanistan that were formerly under the control at one point, from 2007 to the early 2010s, by the pakistani taliban. this is a battle space that they know. at the end of the day, isis in afghanistan are people from outside. this is isis parachuting people from the mothership. in the arab world, these are locals who are battle hardened, they know the terrain, and they are coming out under a new label and see they have a better opportunity

-taliban talks in doha. meanwhile, former afghan president hamid karzai held talks today with the head of the haqqani network, a powerful faction of the taliban. this all comes as the taliban moves to secure its control of afghanistan. on tuesday, the taliban held a news conference where they promised amnesty for former government officials and pledged to eradicate opium production. the taliban also made promises to protect some rights of journalists and women. >> government offices will be activated soon and all employees, including women, returned to work and work in areas permitted by sharia law. we and you see that in the field of medicine, education, police, and other sectors of society. we need women because it is a necessity of society. amy: despite the taliban's pledges, many women across afghanistan have not left their homes since the taliban seized control. earlier today, the taliban opened fire on hundreds of protesters in northeastern jalalabad who marched through the streets holding the black, r

— on the taliban? there are some countries that _ on the taliban?es that have an - on the taliban? there are some countries that have an influence with the taliban. the fund 23 countries that recognise the first element government back in the 19905 pakistan one of the key neighbours, saudi arabia and the uae. you can add to that list turkey, who've been operating at the airport and have some links with the taliban will stop catarrh who have hosted the political office of the taliban over the last few years. —— political office of the taliban over the last few years. -- qatar. al5o china and some degree russia and iran. we are talking here of the neighbouring countries and some of the islamic countries that have had traditional link5 the islamic countries that have had traditional links with the taliban. and if britain, america and the west want to influence events on the ground it is very difficult and virtually impossible for them to do so directly and they will need to do so directly and they will need to do so vicariously through these other coun

so the taliban went to war with the taliban let afghanistan in 2000.we have seen with iran over the more recent years, particularly with its relationship -- particularly as its relationship with the u.s. got worse, it started to funnel arms to the taliban. i think that's was -- that was meant to poke the u.s. in the eye and present more strength to america's rival in afghanistan. for iran, its major interest and concern is the she a muslim community in afghanistan. they are the religious minority in afghanistan, a very vulnerable community. the taliban, many of the murder. i run will wordy -- worry about their security. i think they will look to get reassurances that [indiscernible] iran does have a potential asset in afghanistan. there is a shia built militia on afghanistan that iran cultivated to deploy to the middle east and fight in the wars there. iran has the option if things came to to reconstitute that afghan/shia militia and try to deploy to protect the shieh community. that is an advantage iran has. final point, it worries about the taliban a

arthel: but maybe that is what will prevent a taliban-ruled afghanistan, a taliban government, from beingd as a bona fide government. >> reporter: absolutely. you are going to see a number of international bodies make very clear statements over the next week about the situation in afghanistan. the u.n. security council is scheduled to meet on monday to discuss the situation and, and we'll certainly hear more after that. arthel? arthel: trey yingst, thank you very much, trey. ♪ >> the president has decided to stay. we would have been back at war with the taliban attacking our forces. the offense i have you see throughout the country almost certainly would have proceeded. we would have had about 2500 forces in country with air power. that would not have been sufficient to deal with the situation, and i would be on your hoe right now explaining why -- show right now ec a planing why we were sending tens of thousands of troops back into afghanistan. eric: that's secretary of state antony blinken this morning defending the president's decision to pull bluing plug on -- pull the plug on afghani

those with the taliban and other groups as well, quite frankly the taliban is preoccupied with how theyl manage this country after 20 years out of power. and the fate of americans is a secondary issue for those leaders in space happen now. i think the united states needs to it filmic to deliver a clear message with clear consequencese taliban or other groups and those who worked with us from getting out of the country. they went just kind of an overall assessment, brett, i have to go but i want to get your take on what you think the near future, maybe even a couple of years. is it bleak for afghanistan where is it dyer? what do you think happens on the ground going forward? >> i'm very worried. i think quite frankly we are in a position that is more dangerous than it was september 2001 because the taliban have not only won propaganda victory in 2004 in other countries but they will also use that to show their reins, fill their coffers, and 20 years of planting us and their allies. they have a lot of american arms and even american trained soldiers. this is a combustible next. >> trace:

the taliban have taken power. and the biden administration faces a new urgent mission evacuating thousands of americans and afghan allies stuck on the ground. the pentagon has sent nearly 6,000 u.s. troops to protect kabul's airport to allow for flights out of the country and the u.n. report shows the taliban are already carrying out a door-to-doorman hunt seeking reprisals against afghans who were allied with the u.s. on friday, the president acknowledged the danger of this mission. president biden: i cannot promise what the final outcome will be. and it will be without risk of loss. but as commander in chief, i can assure you that i will mobilize every resource necessary. pete: what's the latest in afghanistan? how did we get here? and what's next? joining us tonight with more insight are four top reporters on this story. peter baker, the chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." and here in the studio with me anne gearan the white house correspondent for "the washington post." vivian salama the

team was currently or about to start talking to the taliban to try to tell the taliban what the u.s. is expecting their behavior to be, and what the possible consequences could be from the united states as f as sanctions or isolation if the taliban don't behave the way americans want them to. host: getting people out of kabul is on people's minds. we heard macron talk about how those who helped france over the past two decades, france would do its best to get them out. he made to guarantee this would happen. i wonder what the stance is on washington -- in washington on this. caroline: the message is we are fully focused on getting all those american citizens out of afghanistan as quickly as possible, but not just american citizens. they are also focused on getting afghan allies, as they call them, those who have worked so closely with the americans throughout these 20 years, as well as getting out some third country citizens that need their help, citizens of u.s. allies. right now, the white house has confirmed -- jake sullivan did confirm that the taliban did say that they would pro

the taliban regime. nation—building mission, and that is clearly been a failure. there were gains that were made for afghan people over these years, in terms of education, health, women's right, how long those gains will endure is now very much in question. and so you have to consider there was a two—part mission by the united states in afghanistan — counterterrorism and regime change. he first had some successes. the second distinct lean not, because we are back to where we started 20 years ago.— started 20 years ago. laurel miller there from the _ started 20 years ago. laurel miller there from the international... - colonel chris kolenda, author of zero—sum victory: what we're getting wrong about war, led the us troops as commander to fight against the taliban in 2007. i have got a personal reaction and a policy reaction. my personal reaction is it is very upsetting, it is very disappointing. i've got afghan friends who i am messaging back and forth who are very concerned about their safety, their pers

the taliban could make it to kabul, and that— the taliban could make it to kabul, and that in— the talibane 13th of august, this was the us assessment. kabul is not right now in an imminent— kabul is not right now in an imminent threat— kabul is not right now in an. imminent threat environment. clearly. — imminent threat environment. clearly. if— imminent threat environment. clearly. if you _ imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just _ imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just look - imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just look at - imminent threat environment. | clearly, if you just look at what the taliban _ clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have _ clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have been - clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have been doing, . clearly, if you just look at what . the taliban have been doing, you clearly, if you just look at what - the taliban have been doing, you can see that _ the taliban have been doing, you can see that they— the taliban have been doing, you can see that they are _ the taliban have been do

in the past about his trust of the taliban. >> do you trust the taliban? >> president biden: is that a serious question? i do not. no, i do not trust the taliban. that's a silly question. do i trust the tally ban, no, but i trust the capacity of the afghan military better trained, better equipped and more competent in terms of conducting -- >> dana: i think the question that a lot of people are asking today why would we have pulled our military out before getting our own american citizens out of the country? >> it makes no sense. this is one of the biggest operational failures i've seen in my professional life. the fact that the president is going on tv and really throwing our afghan allies on the bus and spitting on the graves of the 50,000 afghans who sacrificed their lives. it's a disgrace. for the administration to equivocate on the fact we'll do everything possible to get our people out is also unacceptable. this is america. we do not leave our people behind. we have to get our people out as well as our afghan allies out of that country. we have appro

statements over the last 24 hours now that they've been talking to the taliban, that the taliban has guaranteed the safety of its personnel in herat, in kabul. so they are being careful not to ruffle their feathers and see how the dust settles there. i don't think the iranians want to open up front with the taliban. they've got enough problems to deal with'v along their other borders. so they're hedging their bets there to see what happens. you know, unlike the u.s. and other western person in afghanistan, they're not eye evacuating, the iranians. they're staying there. they've obviously struck some sort of deal however temporary it may be with the taliban. and they'll put their feelers out as we go forward to see how much influence they can garner with the new regime in afghanistan. >> ali arouzi, nbc news correspondent in teheran, thank you very much for joining me today. >>>jo joining me now, nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea, thank you so much for coming to "the sunday show." from where you sit and your years of reporting from the white house an

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taliban has been. taliban has been. it 3 complicated because afghanistan is so important to iran, both economically and regard to the amount of trade but also because afghanistan is home to so many she a muslim. the islamic regime of iran is sheer. and that is key to understanding the difference between the taliban and the islamic regime of iran when it comes to their relationship. the taliban is here and the islamic regime of iran is sheer. and historically they have been better enemies. there was one key event where the taliban assassinated almost one dozen iranians diplomats and a journalist and it almost led to war between the two. instead, a run opted to co—operate with the us in order to topple the taliban. come 2001, the us led invasion in afghanistan and that calculation changed on iran's part. they began cooperating with the taliban and to stave off the us influence, so much so that the us officials accused iran of having supplied weapons and money to the taliban, something the iranians deny.

that taliban and this taliban is that the taliban of 2001 were new. now this taliban is experienced, disciplined. our activities are going well. we are obeying our leaders. >> reporter: a lot of people are concerned that if the taliban takes power again, women's rights will move backwards. how can you guarantee that women's rights will be protected? >> translator: we assure this to people all over the world, especially the people of afghanistan. islam has given rights to everyone equally. women have their own rights. how much islam has given rights to women, we will give them that much. >> reporter: that is clearly open for interpretation. next to the mosque, we find a classroom of young girls. but their teacher says they will only receive religious education and will not attend regular school. at night, i am separated from my male colleagues and sleep in the women's part of the house with the children. i've been talking to some of the women in this room, and i promised that i wouldn't show any of their faces. but it's interesting because, you know, t

taliban fla- shoes because the taliban taliban flag is _ shoes because the taliban taliban flag is whitely insane idea that the shoes you're wearing could be in some _ shoes you're wearing could be in some ways — shoes you're wearing could be in some ways deemed disrespectful, but that seems to be the case and i'm very worried about the prospect of girls. _ very worried about the prospect of girls. we _ very worried about the prospect of girls, we turned the clock back 20 years _ girls, we turned the clock back 20 years and — girls, we turned the clock back 20 years and people who have been great campaigners from female education in afghanistan and pakistan, there is a great _ afghanistan and pakistan, there is a great fear— afghanistan and pakistan, there is a great fear tonight that those schools _ great fear tonight that those schools will all be closed and will be schools will all be closed and will he going — schools will all be closed and will be going right back to the worst period _ be going right back to the worst period of— be going right back to the worst period of the taliban

so how does the rise of the taliban, the re-emergence of the l taliban, the re—emergence of the talibanfit into that picture for china? ., ., , taliban fit into that picture for china? . . , . taliban fit into that picture for china? . ., ., , ., china? china has had long-standing arrangements _ china? china has had long-standing arrangements with _ china? china has had long-standing arrangements with taliban - china? china has had long-standing arrangements with taliban when - china? china has had long-standing. arrangements with taliban when they were in government last time. china was one of the few with access to have investment and economic interest in the country. taliban know that in a situation where they will struggle for legitimacy internationally, they will not get aid from the west, another government might find china a lifeline on the economic side. there will be trying to create the conditions for at least a good political relationship with the chinese. there was a prominent meeting which took place recently between the chinese foreign minister in which the taliban made st

what are the taliban promising?— west. what are the taliban ”romisin? . ., , promising?taliban are seeing they will not _ promising? the taliban are seeing they will not harm _ promising? the taliban are seeing they will not harm anyone, - promising? the taliban are seeing they will not harm anyone, they i promising? the taliban are seeing i they will not harm anyone, they will not target anyone, they will protect businesses but we will have to see how that taliban transition from the military attacks on the military side of things into the politics and what sort of government we might be looking at and what sort of settlement. it is definitely something that was in the making over the last few days if not weeks and hours. my colleague said to you earlier on the messaging from the government was also confusing. the president said he was working on reorganising the afghan national security forces while he has left the ri last all have his cards and the ri last all have his cards and the military has surrendered and it is still a very fluid and confusing situation. ~ , .,

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and the speed of his pull out number 2 by the taliban. and the speed that they filled, the vacuum 1st going to the nor there is going to start not that traditional stronghold taking lots of territory there. then going to the border areas then now to the south. and so that some of the key cities in the south, but also to other parts of africa, i'm pushing in on the cities and that has continued in recent hours. the battle in laska, god continues right in the heart of the provincial capital of helmand in nimrod. which is next to helmand, just to the west of it, that the battles have been underway and in the raj, the regional capital, they're the tell about now for the 1st time have control of a provincial capital. they seem to achieve that from most reports without many shots being fired. they took the prison there, let go of prisoners. some of them taliban. they used humvees and other vehicles that originally supplied by the u. s. and nato. they are now in the hands of taliban having been captured by african forces ins, around which they c

they have recognized the taliban.9 billion of government afghanistan cash in the united states right now in our various central banks. and there will be a push, i believe, by this administration to trade it to give the taliban access to this money. congress should stop that from happening and in the united united nations you should get rid of the sanctions and that is what is happening over the next month, sean. >> sean: by the way, the chinese already lectured america, if you can believe it after covid, on human rights. the biden administration, not mike pompeo. thank you both. sad, tragic, preventable, all of this. more "hannity" after the break. >> sean: unfortunately that's all the time we have this evening. in the meantime we've got to hope and pray joe biden will wake up and change his mind and not a single american or one of our allies will be left in harm's way. there is still time, joe. wake up. we're americans. if the dutch, the french and the english can do it, you can, too. let not your heart be trouble. l

we can judge the taliban _ are they a change taliban?iban by their words i are they a change taliban? we can judge the taliban by their words orj judge the taliban by their words or we canjudge the judge the taliban by their words or we can judge the taliban by their actions stop for afghans it has to be by their actions. their words say repeatedly this will not be the taliban rule between 1996 and 2000 won. a harsh, authoritarian rule, which led to them being a pariah state. what is the evidence on the ground? in recent months, as the taliban overran district after district, the schools were shut, girls were allowed to go to school, mainly up to the sixth grade. music was banned, media outlets were shut down, men were told to grow their beards. this led afghans to say, yes, the taliban have changed, but actually they are worse than they were the first time round. but they give us a different picture here in kabul, where they know the eyes of the world on the capital. they talk about no revenge, no vindictiveness, no actions against memb

. . , ., ., , taliban are here.t many --eole taliban are here. that is what many peeple should _ taliban are here. that is what many people should be _ taliban are here. that is what many people should be careful— taliban are here. that is what many people should be careful about, - taliban are here. that is what many| people should be careful about, with what we have seen. if you say the taliban have entered the city, it will create panic. as we know, as of now, after speaking to my colleagues, they were only seen on the outskirts. they were also not in an aggressive posture, according to another colleague. so we have to understand, there are talks going on as we speak, both in the presidential palace and in doha, the interior minister of afghanistan has issued a video saying there are talks about a peaceful transfer of power, a transitional government. quite a dramatic statement coming out from a senior government officials. we have still not heard from the presidential palace, so i'm only giving you what the inte

the taliban have _ relationship with the taliban?the country as a new taliban and they want to have ties with the world but how do the corp with certain issues, women's education, girls education freedom of press? we will have to see because those issues are real, for the taliban and afghan people and the international community thoseissues and the international community those issues are real. istale and the international community those issues are real.— and the international community those issues are real. we are 'ust heanna those issues are real. we are 'ust hearing that fl those issues are real. we are 'ust hearing that the i those issues are real. we are 'ust hearing that the prime i those issues are real. we are just hearing that the prime minister i those issues are real. we are just l hearing that the prime minister will be chairing a corporate meeting on afghanistan beginning right now stop plans for wider asylum and any eligibility to the resettlement scheme will be decided in the next few —— cobra. days. it's a cool day w

they've had many battles with the existing taliban and seems like the taliban was pointing the finger to groups like this. how does this complicate our getting out of town effort, presumably to get done by tuesday? >> i would suggest this is the reason that the president has decided to get out of afghanistan. the problem is when you pull out of places like afghanistan, you leave a vacuum. whenever you're in a situation of withdrawal like we are right now with the u.s. military withdrawing by tuesday, you have a situation where terror groups will try to take advantage of that. they did that with the sovieting in 19899. they want to look like they're firing on you the way out. this is the nightmare scenario the pentagon planned for. they knew it was a possibility but it was the worst case scenario. it's highly improbable thepresident will beside to ramp up and send more forces, stay, take over bagram air base. those seem like possibilities that i'm having here at the pentagon. general mckenzie said that he still has 5,200 troops on the ground in kabul at the airport. he does not anticip