speculate all day or we could play another round of america's slowest-growing sensation -- >> ask a tea partier! >> john: big al jazeera bucks at work. news director for the tea party news network miss scottie nell hughes. let's meet our contestants. democratic contestant, contributor to forbes.com as well as an avid fly fisherman and the creator of the character spike on x-men. >> that's true. >> john: it is rick ungar. and bachelor number two republican contestant, a writer and comedian starring in living in exile and author of the complete idiot's guide to comedy writing, please welcome jim mendrinos. great to have you back. >> thank you. let's play the game. topic number one. >> john: you asked for it, you got it. the sequester. on the topic of sequestration what would you as a democrat like to ask a bona fide tea party official? >> does the clock start now? >> we have the bell? >> virginia and texas. two of the strong holds of the tea party movement continue to look to be the two states that are going to be most impacted by the sequester. how do you explain tea party support for the seques

a lot of people forgotten but tea partiers haven't. their own republican president was not vetoing spending bill. >> big-spending republican, new phrase. nobody had ever heard of one of those. but because of the explosion of government after 9/11, number of tax bills, tax cut bills passed, the deficit exploded under bush. and that made the economic wing of the republican party, which had liked its policies up to a point and this other group of folks who worry about debt and deficits, that made them unhappy. >> don't forget prescription drug benefits for seniors. chris: unfunded. republican party used to be a party i was growing up party to easily vote for. wasn't a big deal. they were not hard right. now it's narrowed down because of the bush years, he supported it, if you don't pass must with the evangelicals, pro-life, same sex, in the platform. sent that one of the residues of this presidency, you have to toe the line on the culture issues or you will not be a nominee? has that changed? >> yes, but on some of the culture issues like

are up in arms about together and that's monsanto progressives in tea partiers alike are furious over the past the passage of the months santo protection act which exempts the biotech giant from basically from the courts from judicial review last month this provision was slipped into a spending bill behind closed doors in congress and what it does is it it's a blame effort to shield months santo away from all but a new food and. report highlights even more ways monsanto has avoided regulatory scrutiny over the years according the report monsanto's board members have worked directly for the food and drug administration they've advised the department of agriculture and they've even served on president obama's committee for trade policy and negotiations monsanto has used these positions to influence public policy and opinion and pressure lawmakers into turning a blind eye to their monopolistic practices so isn't it time we said enough is enough and stopped monsanto from buying off our elected officials well that is the subject of tonight's daily tech. while all eyes were glued on the sup

many saying that tea partiers have been the death of them. you say wt? tea party represents the value that america has had, that made it strong. but,. neil: why are they treating congress like parias? >> it has more to do with wea leadership, and a lack of vision. neil: are you including the speaker of the house in that? >> speaker had concerned about the tea party, which causes me concerns about the speaker so what can i say. not as important about the tea party caucus here in washington, as it is the tea party caucus across america. tea party patriot across the nation have been concerned about out of control government, out of control government spending, and perhaps if you know we had on of the best businessmen. philanthropic but he could not talk about obamacare it was modeled after romneycare, there were millions of americans who stayed home who were tea party folks they felt disen frankized it is time to get them energized. really theare independent, when our leadership and republican party talking we have to get independents on our side, they are

did not lose the elect on social issues, and tea partier, says they are focusing on wrong issue they should be focus on on taxes and debt on win back voter, katrina. immediate post modum, how could you lose all those voters and you say after that not it. that is still place guided? >> i do, i believe that republicans are having such a hard time communicating to their base, and i don't think that going outside of their principles will win them over any more votes, we have to stick to when we know works, tea partiers turned out and returned congress to republican party in 2010, not because they were republicans, not because they were morally on the right side. but because we topped return the fiduciary issues back to where u.s. government should be within the u.s., and the people who make it great. charles: do you feel like at some point, you talked about the base, hard to argue that base is not getting older and smaller. at some point do you have to articulate your core values to your noncore audience? even if you say have won last elect with strategy you describe, there some point, y

as long as they keep marco rubio in there, the conservative, freshman tea partier.ke to look for him for others to vote for. watch for that next week. >> absolutely. >> thanks, brian. >> great job. still ahead, why are you awake. your tweets, texts and e-mails are next. "morning joe" is moments away. most people think that after an accident, you'll have to pay five hundred bucks for your deductible. the truth? at allstate, you could pay zero. allstate gives you a hundred dollars off your deductible the day you sign up. then another hundred off every year you don't have an accident. let the good hands reward your safe driving with a deductible that goes away. ♪ deductible rewards. one more way you're in good hands with allstate. ♪ otherworldly things. but there are some things i've never seen before. this ge jet engine can understand 5,000 data samples per second. which is good for business. because planes use less fuel, spend less time on the ground and more time in the air. suddenly, faraway places don't seem so...far away. ♪ suddand you see the woman don'you fell

afraid of when it comes to one world government well it's very interesting when right wing folks tea partiers here about the notion of a trade agreement submitting the united states to the jurisdiction of three person attorney tribunals who who are meeting under world bank or united nations rules who are empowered to demand we pay unlimited sums of u.s. taxpayer money over any domestic law that u.s. firms have to meet but they don't like it makes their hair in fire on a bipartisan trans partisan right left in the middle kind of way most people don't know what's happening so that's part of the deal. now now lori the interesting about this e.u. agreement it's just leave it to sort of talking about it is they're going to create this whole ideal of this investor state dispute resolution which is the first of its kind in which corporations can actually sue states for laws they don't like so if the united states were to pass a law giving us all off friday you know the german company could sue them and say this is an unfair law it's unfair labor practice it's going to screw up our trade agreement th

and the tea partiers called it a home run.hn carney mentioned at our briefing yesterday look they put this burden on the ffa. >> the loss walls off three-quarters of the budget and does not give them any flexibility. why? because it was written to be a bad law. >> bill: now there are a couple of ideas on the table in congress. again, notice what congress has responded to about the sequester, okay? they didn't respond to all of the cuts in head start around the country. they didn't respond to all of the cuts in meals on wheels for example, or other programs that would help the poor or middle class, emts getting laid off they didn't respond to the furloughs for pentagon employees. no. but white house tours, oh my god, right? or now flight delays. oh, my god. the sky is falling. the sky is falling. some republicans have come forward and said they want to sponsor legislation which would carve out an exemption to the sequesters just for airlines just for passengers who happen to be flying that day. you know what? no freakin' way. n

over three-quarters identify themselves as tea partiers more than republicans.an three-quarterers also prefer a candidate who is likely to lose but shared their principles. finally the survey revealed . . . this idealogical gap in views could spell trouble for the gop in 2014. joining us tonight is one of our "war room" favorites, lee fang contributing writer to "the nation." who has a new book called "the machine: a field guide to the resurgent right." welcome back into "the war room" lee. >> hey michael thanks for having me. >> michael: of course. a few years ago it seemed like the republican party was going to take the tea party in. will that ever happen? >> i think we need to reconceptualize the tea party. if you look at the detailed history of how it came about, in a way it was manufactured by corporate interests and republican operatives who are concerned that republicans after 2008 didn't have a populous base. kind of a grassroots vanguard to push their interest. back in 2008 as is the case today, the republican brand was in tatters, right? people don't i

we should point out they call the tea partiers romantic terrorists. somebody needs to make that point. >> i will make that point in my next book. >> i was going to make a joke and i thought people won't know it is a joke. >> the best part, the bio on the columbia website somehow manages to never look at the weather underground stuff. but it does say dr. kathy bodine has been a counselor with the prom development since 1964. working within communities with limited resources to solve social problems and supporting individuals to overcome their own odds and a sense and direction. >> the nyu talks about the activist. >> jonathon and remi, you were both all for columbia hiring this murderer. remi, you challenged greg's assertion. a couple things. when she took part in the brinks robbery she was 38 years old. you you can't even say it was youthful stupidity. >> i didn't say that. and i didn't say columbia shouldn't hire her. >> i want to say this was full on adult stupidity. michael, do you want to handle the question on whether she has shown remorse? >> we

he's then joined by ted cruz and mike lee, two other tea partiers and that is just an absurd position to say we're not evening going to debate this after sandy hook. it allowed obama to say look, they don't even think you deserve a fair hearing. what people want is a fair shot. they want to legislation to get passed. but what they really want, they want the opportunity for their voices to be heard and a chance to count the votes on the floor of the senate and if you come up short, you know who's on your side, who's against you and you know who you need to go and find for the next round, so if paul hadn't made such a huge deal about it to begin with with, obama might not have been able to knock him down. >> he was really feeling his os from the filibuster. i think he had a lot of political success striking out ahead of everyone else, so he struck out ahead here. pat toomey, republican from pennsylvania, we have word now that joe mansion of west virginia have called a press conference for tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. mark, you guys ran an ad, which i want to show, pressuring pat toome

tea partiers didn't want to shuffle the debt with u.s. finances but rather hold out for farther reaching reform, not a patchwork solution like sequestration. >> i know there are economists who said that. do i believe them? no. do most tea party members believe them? no. >> they don't view it as compromise. they view it as selling out. >> reporter: for clarity and resolution we spoke with political scientist from santa clara university who says the claim of obstruction is largely right from the procedural sense. then we asked how do you assess blame? >> whether one side is right or the other side is right you have to figure out what is the art of the possible? what can we accomplish? and if one side is not going to meet the other side half way this is reed's claim then nothing can get done at all. >> and that's the point here. there is no half way for tea party members. mr. morgan explained the group's objective is to get the right deal and not the most politicly feasible one. we can debate their believes. the tea party approach certainly

do you think for a second the republicans, the tea partiers, if you think that the obama sort of blackr stuff is crazy now. wait until you bring back in a clinton. it's, it doesn't matter. because in the minds of anybody 50 and under, they remember those eight years. i remember them distinctly. ky never get them out of my head. i want her to run. i would vote for her in a skinny-second. but the republican conspiracy theories will go through the roof like you have never seen. >> it's democratic derangement syndrome. >> i think most american people will toss all of that stuff out. it's like a better at the race track. you toss it out. except maybe for benghazi. i don't see the old stuff having any traction beyond that base at all. >> am i the only person at the table that feels kind of bad for joe biden? joe biden has been a good soldier to president obama. he's the true inheriter of the obama legacy. he negotiated a lot of deals that obama gets credit for. >> it should be clinton-biden. >> he can be vice president again? >> i think he could run for vice president. i don't think it's in

now, tea partier says using this to justify or research. no one is advocating privacy anymore.o scared. but what you think of that? >> i am so puzzled, neil, that rand paul made these comments. and i am even more puzzled that when given a chance to clarify thaa he really did not mean what he said, especially the part about the liquor store being robbed for $50 that the drug might be appropriate use there. i am just very surprised he did not say come make my speak for a living. you speak for a living. i made a mistake. that is not really mean that. i am dumbfounded by this. neil: i gave it a chance and respecting wrigley, don't get me wrong, to clarify that position and are less a, there are situations in which you would approve of that technology. kind of double down to say, well, in instances such as these, referring to boston, yes, but the $50 liquor store robbery you alluded to, that as well, to very obviously different events of difference severity, but he did not distinguish, which coming back to wondering whether this whole drone filibustering thing was just out of place.

america, even, you remember during obama care when obama care was trying to be sold, a lot of tea partiersd up at rallies saying don't touch my medicare. well, the president is actually leading the charge now against social security medicare in the eyes of many people. >> you know i don't want to get into chain cpi but i did see the piece you did on your blog, nice explainer. thank you. can we blame any american right or left though for loving a program that will give them three to eight times every dollar that they pay in? >> no. >> it sounds good to me. >> well, it sounds very good. i think the real question here, aside from politics and apart from political tactics, is whether social security is really in a terrible state of affairs. social security, you know, the surpluses for years have been papering over budget deficits. the federal government has been using those surpluses for all kinds of other purposes and social security, and i used to be a trustee of the social security trust fund, it actually is flush for another 20 years. it's probably good to make some changes now. >> i retir

he's a tea partier more than a social conservative. maybe you can't distinguish the two. the question is how do you distinguish yourself in your early days in the united states senate to the conservative base, the answer is act like joe mccarthy. >> yeah. we talked about that a lot. how he's handled himself in this first couple of months as senator. >> of course, when people like us talk like that, it makes it more -- >> bill: michael, i want to get your take on what is happening on the gun safety front because a lot of people are making the point that it looks like the congress has lost interest the subject has changed. it has been 100 days almost. tomorrow is when the president goes to newtown. 100 days after the murder at sandy hook elementary school. and yesterday the state of connecticut passed the toughest gun control measures so far of any state in the nation. senator richard blumenthal from connecticut pointed out what is contained in that package. >> the measures in connecticut will ban not only the sale of assault weapons but possession of the high-capacity maga

but when you get past the tea partiers, i think you'll see there will be a lot more reasonability when the republican side than we've seen in previous years. i feel confident we'll see a vote. >> bill: some republicans realize that they need to reach out, right? >> but you know, there are a few republicans that think that they're untouchable in those districts. they can be monolithic about their rhetoric and what they stand for but i think there's plenty of republicans when you get to texas and you get to a lot of many states where before, it was -- the rhetoric was harsh on immigrant issues and comprehensive immigration reform. i think it has end to down. so luckily that's plenty of opportunity for us to roll up our sleeves in our house and get some good legislation done. >> bill: isn't it funny what getting beat 72-27 by the latino vote can do to you. >> some people call it a wake-up call. others say it is practical. i think it is a wonderful thing to see we'll get it done finally. >> bill: congressman tony cardenas representing the 29th congressional district in california in the sa

the tea partiers don't like him. probably not. but it is a, you know, all of the subtleties of what wayne laperriere said, and years ago and all that, are never part of this debate. >> right. >> i mean, this debate is black and white. >> they're coming to get your guns. >> exactly right. >> don't even look at my gun. that is -- you are undermining the second amendment. it is -- and, you know, that's why they don't want to debate on the senate floor. because, you know, it's sort of like, i've been asking about afghanistan. why -- for five years i've been asking why are we in afghanistan? and the answer is always, because of pakistan. well, then why aren't we in pakistan? we can't so we have to be -- it doesn't really help in pakistan. no. but we need to be -- there is not a good answer. it's the same thing. why can't we do criminal background checks? well it might lead to a national registry. why can't we ban assault weapons? because they're not really assault weapons. what are they? semiautomatic. so why can't we ban

he's a tea partier. if they get his support, it would almost certainly be enough to get it passed.if he doesn't, you could see the gun proposal die in the senate this week. >> the compromise would be a significant breakthrough. but you still have an uphill fight in the house. the assault weapons ban is basically dead. >> reporter: it is. he also wanted to limit high-capacity magazine clips. that effort is basically dead, too. this would be one victory, a minor one, but the white house would take it. >>> now, we're going to the alarm over the new and mysterious bird flu trending in china. the h7n9 virus has killed six so far. it has never before been seen in humans. cdc is working very closely with chinese health officials to see if they can stop the spread. abc's chief health and medical editor, dr. richard besser is here. part of the reason this particular strain of the bird flu is it's already adepting quite quickly in mammals. >> they've seen changes that allow it to survive in people. could this become the next pandemic strain? normally bird strains affect birds and people stra

we are talking in terms of medicare, talking about a program that even a majority of tea partiers dot touched. that is if a are more notion than the idea that somehow we are going to go back to traditional that we had in this country for the vast majority. >> let me interject. not just traditional tax base. there is a bunch of new taxes. carbon tax and financial transaction tax. >> we are never going to get close to the marginal tax rates we had 30 years ago. the question as to whether or not these budgets are fantastical is also, i think, look, we have the sequester now. there's really no -- weir we have de facto budget. beer seeing competing measures for what the government should do at this point. and the ryan budget basically says that the government should just go away. [ male announcer ] ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much you think. except it's 2% every year. does that make a difference? search "cost of financial advisors" ouch. over time it really adds up. then go to e-trade and find out how much our

is that something that tea partiers really think? that the rest of us pretending to not be racist?got booed so badly he had to cut his speech short? >> caller: why is ne the hall of fame? what's the deal with that? >> no idea. >> caller: i totally forgot about that. selective thinking or something. i don't know. that's ridiculous. >> stephanie: thank you. >> they introduced donald trump at wrestle mania and he got booed so badly, that he had to cut his speech short. >> stephanie: that's a shame. all right. speaking of guns as we were talking about gun legislation dan pfeiffer yesterday, white house senior adviser. >> we're going to try to get the strongest bill we can. this is a 90% issue. can't get 90% of americans to agree on the weather. >> stephanie: thank you. yet we'll have the same problem with the red state democrats. that was depressing by the salon piece, to what degree they go or the nra goes to take the teeth out of things or they scream about we don't enforce the laws we have now. because of you guys. you make sure whatever we enact is not enforced because there's no o

and not even the tea partiers. it turns out they are. that when it came down to it, yeah, they said sure. we don't care if it cuts the pentagon or not. we're going for the whole trillions, the whole sequester. >> there is a long way for this to go. airport thing you're talking about. if airlines are significantly delayed, that could lead to industry pressure on congress to do stuff. honestly, we have to see how it goes. >> bill: i think by the end of the year we'll see enough pressure that congress might say maybe we better back out of this. evan mcmorris santoro good to see you. fun to have you here as a "friend of bill." i'll tell you what the president is up to today on the west coast. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: all right, president