let's give it up for ted rall, ladies and gentlemen,. [applause] >> we will be up your signing books. they do so much for coming. >> if you would please fold up the chairs. [inaudible conversations] >> booktv is on twitter and facebook. tweet us, twitter.com/booktv, or post a comment on our facebook page, facebook.com/booktv. >> published by national geographic, "mars up close" has been written by marc kaufman. what's your background to write about space exploration? >> my background is actually as a journalist long time, and not as a science journalist. i was a foreign correspondent for a long time for "the philadelphia inquirer" and the "washington post," but what i learned was that being in foreign countries is kind of a good way of learning how to speak to scientists. they are talking a different light which, different culture. you spend time with them and work it out and to come up with some really fascinating things. >> what was a curiosity? >> curiosity was the rover up on to mars, and it is searching for