thatcher and president reagan. they complemented each other as far as world leaders better than anyone since roosevelt and churchill. but my specific question is after two of the major overseas involving president reagan, the iran-contra issue and then the funding of the mujahedin in afghanistan when the soviet union was there, which at that time included osama bin laden. after president reagan was out of office, i was wondering did lady thatcher ever have any public comments about those two particular blemishes on her good friend's president reagan's record? i will get off the line for your answer. guest: i will have to take a pass on a detail. i do not want to make up an answer. i do not know if she made any comments or in generally comments. in general, she cannot not have been more unwavering in her support of president reagan. it was not just the foreign- policy support. famously, they both worked to speak harsh truths about the unsustainability of the soviet union, something that coincided with the implosion

those of us who are not from her margaret still respect thatcher even if we shun thatcherism. it is and that's era that i would like to make three short observations. liked orether you disliked her, it is impossible to deny the imprint she made both on the nation and the wider world. she was among those very rare leaders who became a towering, historical figure, not as written in the history books, but when still in the prime of her political life. whatever else is said about her , margaret thatcher created a paradigm, setting parameters for economic, political, and social debates for decades to come. she drew the lines of a political map that we here are still navigating today. mostd, she was one of the caricatured figures in modern british politics. she was easily one of the most complex. on the one hand, she is remembered as an ideologue, responsible for her own -ism. you first politics were subtle, pragmatic am a sometimes driven by events. she was a staunch patriot and much more comfortable reaching out across the atlantic then across the channel. she participated in one

i can remember standing there with lady thatcher, prime minister thatcher, looking at the maps and talking about d-day and what had transpired in world war ii. she was -- she conveyed this aura of knowing what needed to be done and being willing to do it no matter what the political cost. i think of what she did, for example, for the british economy. she took over as prime minister after several years of labored government that was socialist in terms of its leaning and the kinds of policies they'd put in place. when she took over, the british economy was in terrible shape. she turned it around. she privatized large parts of the economy that had been in effect nationalized during the years and the opposition party had been in power. sometimes i think of her when i think of the task that is going to be ahead of us after obama leaves office. i happen to think barack obama's taking us in the wrong direction. i think his health care policies and so forth nationalizing the health care system or something close to it, 16% of the economy, that we're going to have whoever replaces him is going to h

thatcher, lady thatcher's granddaughter. now the anthem "hear my prayer, oh lord." taken from psalm 102. ♪ >> let not your heart be troubled. you believe in god, believe also in me. in my father's house are many mansions. if it were not so, i would've told you. . go to prepare a place for you if i go and prepare a place for you, i will come again and receive you unto myself. , there he may be also. whither i go, he knows and the way ye know. we knoways unto him, not whether thou goest, and how can we know the way? , i am theh unto him way, the truth, and the likght. no man cometh unto the father but by me. anthem that follows is chosen by lady thatcher for the service at her husband's funeral, sir denis thatcher. lovely a site well in place, lord of hosts." place, lordwelling of hosts." ♪ >> now the address which is given by a friend of the thatcher family and of lady thatcher, the bishop of london, right honorable richard kwa -- >> the light of the sheet of political controversy, there is a great calm. the storm of conflicting opinions centers on the mrs. thatcher

my understanding is she was not a supporter of thatcher during the thatcherism years. here's the other thing about thatcher and women. she may have blazed that trail, but she was by no means a great supporter in terms of raising women up through the ranks. in fact, if you listen to what people like the late francois hollande, the president of france said, she was absolutely wiley at using her feminine charms when she wanted to. she would flirt shapelessly with male leaders. arguably, that was -- that sort of unspoken flirting that went on with ronald reagan. so margaret thatcher certainly was the iron lady, but she was the iron lady who knew she was a female. >> refused as an iron lady to put that handbag down. i recall specifically that was something she was advised to do, and she said to hell with that. i just wanted to say one thing about what meryl streep said. i think it speaks volumes as well to what you just mentioned. that is that meryl streep also continues to say i was honored to try to imagine her late life journey after power, but i have only a glancing und

thatcherism. churchill was a political gadfly, he moved around, he was conservative, he was liberal. margaret thatcher came into the western world was in a way people don't remember now. the phone company, the utility company, the railroad company, the airline company in britain were all state owned. she privatized all that. unions were effectively running the country. the top marginal tax rate in britain in the 1970s was 83%. so she began the turn to markets that was then followed in country after country, not in exactly the same way. 1979, the year margaret thatcher comes to power is the beginning of the kind of return of free market economics to the world so she's very consequential. >> richard, she once said if you want something said, ask a man. if you want something done, ask a woman. would we be looking at margaret thatcher in a different way if she had been a man presiding over that period in great britain? >> for the most part, not at all. i don't mean to belittle her accomplishment by wh

margaret thatcher. not only broke the get a glass ceiling she also proved that it is true today that the evil that a woman does lose after her and the good is often interred to her bones matthew d. one of bones that's correct that that that that it is fair game i don't what i really don't agree with is a little of these how in the world that men and women are today. and we have gone beyond the response of the walking we should want a man's going women today and then on the time we're talking over each other guys they compete on their own bases she she enjoyed a ten to fifteen percentage point your women have matthew matthew perry minister's son of when skilled unskilled workers are like. well i think the problem for women in the top layer is what's still not lead so you can't necessarily how great that show up as a figurehead for women when we're still trying to break through what i call the dense layer of men they are still not very many women at the top there's a lot of women going to work but the pro

as indeed was margaret thatcher. they would have been strangely bill clinton's change in the democratic party and the vcs tackle the important things like welfare reform had it not been his time in office is it knowledge margaret thatcher had said it had a lot of truth in it and put into effect changes and didn't roll back the changes made to britain. when they met in 1975, they were both between jobs. he had done for two terms heading toward a favorite conservative to become the presidential nominee, but not quite. by rick thatcher had just become the new leader of the opposition, which the conservative party is an old, stuffy, misogynistic old boys network of general major roads were rather sharp to find a strain on who i don't think any of them entertained other. it is a completely due thing. they discovered in a leader of the opposition's office that they had a meeting set between 20 and 30 minutes and they found they were finishing each other send this. this one of those moments where great people come together

thatcher was mrs. thatcher. her name to thatcherism along with ronald reagan, the biggest conservative figure in the late 20th century. not just that, mrs. thatcher was sort of a combination of ronald reagan, ayn rand and dr. strangelove. wrapped into one. she was sort of the ultimate conservative pin-up. and as you say in your introduction, she never went away if that. i think that she was always going to be a big deal when she died. and to the extent that she changed things, she deserves that. the second thing is there's a conservative government running britain at the moment. or a conservative liberal coalition and they're in a lot of trouble. so i think they're sort of trying to seize upon the moment now. to sort of unify the country and put, seize upon her legacy, to try and justify what they're doing at the moment. you know she's going to have what is effectively a state funeral. although it's not being called that. it's being called a ceremonial funeral. and you know, the government tried to exploit the o

margaret thatcher. not only broke the get a glass ceiling she also proved that is true today that the evil that a woman does lose after her and the good is often interred to her bones matthew d. one of bones that's correct that that that that it is fair game i don't what i really don't agree with is a little of these how in the world that men and women are today. and we have gone beyond the laws of the walking we should want a man's word and women today in the time we're talking over each other guys they compete on their own bases she she enjoyed a ten to fifteen percentage point your women have such as matthew matthew perry minister son of skilled and skilled workers alike. well i i think the problem for women in the top layer is we're still not lad so you can't necessarily hold margaret thatcher up as a figurehead for women when we're still trying to break through what i call the dense layer of men there are still not very many women at the top there's a lot of women going to work but the problem at t

thatcher was 87 years old.verage of her story this morning as we start a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." glad to have you with us everybody. i'm martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. thatcher is certainly one of the towering figures of the 20th century. her faith in the free markets led her country out of socialism and the economic despair of the late '70s. great britain's first woman prime minister had a huge impact all over the world. martha: greg palkot joins us now live from london. so, greg, what has the reaction there been to this announcement this morning? >> reporter: martha, gregg, you can imagine, it has only been about two hours since we learned of passing of margaret thatcher. already there has been a huge reaction here in the u.k. and around the world. she was the first woman u.k. prime minister and she was also the longest-serving u.k. prime minister in the 20th century. some at least one analyst called her, the towering political figure in the u.k. in postwar hist

to cross-talk margaret thatcher's legacy i'm joined by matthew melky or in washington he is a fellow at the competitive enterprise institute and a regular contributor to open market dot org also in washington we have clifford these he is a professor of economics and finance and shenandoah university and in london we crossed the felicity gary she is an international criminal barrister and media commentator on cross talk rules in effect i mean you can jump any time you want felicity what is the lasting legacy of her she's buried today well to me that she's a terrible disappointment that she had great power. great responsibility i think that might be a quote from spiderman but it's not funny that we're now suffering the like to say of her policies decades ago that cripple the country ok matthew jump in agree or disagree with that. i'm going to have to disagree with that peter and i figured you were actually was a revolutionary both on the right. she was a revolutionary figure in politics on both the right and the left she had the courage to stand up to this keynesian consensus that it d

, of the thatcher years. was it not, marten? >> again, chuck, people fail to give credit to john major because it was john and bill clinton who ended up opening negotiations secretly with the ira that came, that brought to fruition the good friday agreement, of course, with senator george mitchell. it was not margaret thatcher. margaret thatcher campaign organizer and manager was killed by the m in 1976. so, she was not that effective. that that kind of iron lady stance seemed to work in some sectors, but didn't work so well domestically. that was very difficult for her, i think. >> well, you know, i do think that in retrospect, the unions and the breaking of the unions given the state, don't you think, martin, that the country had been in in the 1970s with the power outages. you know, you couldn't get your dead bodies buried in cemeteries. >> nothing was collected. it was terrible. >> the supporters today would say that the union husband tos broken and she did it. >> ushered in some fairly brutal attacks on

lady thatcher didn't say too much. she gave some speeches but in the last few years she was in ill health. do you believe she would barackproved of barack obama's economic policies? >> well, i doubt it, bill. i think it's pretty clear. i mean, she was a free market person. she was a low tax person. she was a deregulator president obama is basically the opposite of those things. i'm not saying he a socialist but i think his policies are in line with some of the social democrats who have been so prominent in europe mean politics in recent times. and i think she stood to thwart that she resisted that. so i doubt very seriously she would have approved of president obama's economic policies at least. >> bill: what about overseas the foreign affairs situation? >> well, she was another person who believed in being firm and strong and, you know, she famously told president bush during the run up to the gulf war the first gulf war when they there was some doubt about which way the u.s. was going to go, she said famously now, ge

thatcher was britain's first female prime minister. her economic reforms transformed britain, but were also deeply polarizing. in recent years, she largely kept out of the public eye as her health began to deteriorate. >> at her last public appearance in 2010, margaret thatcher could barely stand. at her side was british prime minister david cameron, who earlier today offered this moving statement. >> i believe she will go down as the greatest risk peacetime prime minister. >> european leaders echoed those sentiments. >> she was one of the few people who wrote history even while she was still alive. >> may, 19 79. an historic moment in britain. thatcher became the first woman to move into number 10 downing street. >> i know full well the responsibilities that await me as i enter the door of number 10. >> and responsibility she bore for more than 11 years, longer than any other -- a responsibility she bore for more than 11 years, longer than any other british prime minister in the 20th century. she took on the mining industry. 25,000 mi

, the real market thatcher.mes it would be difficult for her family to recognize the wife, the mother, the grandmother in the mythological figure. he was a little more political. he didn't just remind us of a nice story about the young poet who would written a letter to her that she reply to, worked on developing the ice cream. but he also went back over her work, one of the most controversial phrases she had ever used that no such thing as society was misunderstood, quoted another speech that should give in and tried to explain in terms of christian thinking that it was first and foremost individual. [bells ringing] >> the rest of the family. is still in the cathedral the great gathering of, the great and powerful, and then among them, the two new zealand women who looked after lady thatcher in her final years. a great close friend was with her for a long, long time, more intimate with her then perhaps anybody who is talked a bit about her, the jokes she made, really clearly knows what lady thatcher was like in

barack obama is half the taxer that margaret thatcher was, half the socialist that margaret thatcher was. president obama hasn't dare propose a health care program as purely socialistic as margaret thatcher's health care system, the one she supported and bragged about. but republicans call barack obama a socialist as if it is an epithet, and call margaret thatcher a hero. ignorance is the first requirement for republicans add iragency of margaret thatcher. sarah palin and most republican presidential candidates would be horrified to discover that margaret thatcher actually believed in evolution. >> i began with charles darwin and his work on the theory of evolution of the origin of species. darwin's voyages were among the high points of scientific discovery. the beliefs of darwin's era should help to see us through, the belief in reason and the scientific method. >> every elected republican in washington would refuse to applaud if they heard margaret thatcher say this. >> it is mankind and his activities which are changing the environment of our planet in damaging and dangerous ways.

an anti-thatcher website started the hash tag, now thatcher's dead, and instead some really dumb people read it as "now that cher is dead. rip, cher, just saw the hash tag. never was a fan myself, but you have to respect her influence. now that cher is dead. rip, cher. at least now we will find out about life after love now that cher is dead. thatcher's death was not all about cher. the associated press obituary of thatcher show a distinct difference in style. for example, critics thought she was, quote, a heart less tyrant who ushered in an era of greed that i can cked the weak out on the streets, end quote. and then refers to chavez as a populous who grew saided against u.s. influence and had broad support particularly among the poor, end quote. meanwhile, young brits expressed their hatred for thatcher the only way they know how, by throwing parties, street parties, and rejoicing in her death with as you can tell lots of clever signs and some bull horns and a lot of mulling about . a lot of mulling about in hats. a lot of stupid hats because they are stupid people. kt, you knew lady

margaret thatcher was 87 years ol >> woodruff: and we have much more about margaret thatcher coming up, including her interview with macneil and lehrer; plus, secretaries baker and schultz on her legacy today. also ahead, how states are tackling guns, and new efforts to protect the berlin wall. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: a suicide bomber in syria blew up his car in damascus today, killing at least 15 people. it happened in the city's financial district. rescue workers searched the smoking wreckage for survivors. the state news agency said the blast wounded 146 people. other reports had that number at 53. the body of an american diplomat killed in afghanistan was flown back to dover air force base in delaware today for a private ceremony. 25-year-old anne smedinghoff was one of five americans who died in a suicide bombing on saturday. the group was delivering textbooks to school children in the southern city of zabul. the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack. north korea has cut its last major ties to the south, suspending ope

talk to me about margaret thatcher, also the woman. i always felt there was a real connection between margaret thatcher and ronald reagan. he enjoyed her company. >> there's no question about it, andrea. they were, they were a pair. and why? well they had a common view about economics, they had a common view about the power of democracy. and free economic systems. they had a common view about the evil of communism. and in terms of the way reagan and thatcher approached the soviet union, let's not destroy them, let's just show these folks what a better world is waiting for them. and it was that belief in democracy that you could show it to others as a candle to light up a dark place, is what i think made it so successful and what gave gorbachev something to work with. rather than implacable enemy, that we're out to destroy the soviet union. >> how, if you can remember this role, how do you assess her role as a woman, a woman leader in what was then the g-7 before the russians joined as the g-8? she was unparalleled. there had been a gol

thatcher who became a symbolic figure, even an -ism.hilda thatcher are here at her funeral service. lying here she is one of us, stiny t to cmon of all human beings. there is an important place for debating policies and legacies, for assessing the impact of political decisions on the everyday lives of individuals and communities. parliament held a frank debate last week. here and today is neither the time nor the place. this, at lady thatcher's personal request, is a funeral service, not a memorial service with the customer eulogies. -- with the customary eulogies. at such a time, the past should not aspire to the judgments which are proper to the politician. instead, this is a place for ordinary human compassion of the kinds that is reconciling. it is splace where the simple truths which transcend political debate and above all, it is the place for hope. it must be very difficult for those members of her family and those closely associated with her to recognize the wife, mother, and grandmother in the mythological figure. our hearts go

it was dennis thatcher really that did so much for maggie thatcher because he gave her a little bit of wealth and a little bit of position. and it was out of that that she was able to kind of climb the ladder of becoming a tory lader because otherwise she wasn't have been able to. she was interesting in that sense the way shmanaged to ugh all of that out. >> is she a hero to women because she was a strong woman. >> she's not-- one of the interesting thing is that feminists have never claimed her, even now. recently there was a list made newspaper britain by the deputy leader of the labor party of the ten greatest women in britain. and she wasn't even on it. which was ridiculous. >> ridiculous. >> absolutely absurd but they never claimed her. she never wanted to be seen as a feminist. she rejected that idea that she owed anything to women's lib. she said some of made it long before women's lib. she wasn't ever embraced b that cmunity. ev now there is a gdging acceptance of margaret thatcher. i personly think she did break amazing barriers for women. she actually did really cut through.

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margaret thatcher defined leadership. et al. she divided the country. -- at home she divided the country. held by some as a postwar savior and condemned by others as a curse. flowers began to be left outside her london home after the news broke at lunchtime that she died at the age of 87, following a stroke. flags were lowered to half mast, this is the passing of no ordinary politician. friend spoke not just of their great sadness but of their real shock, even after years of serious illness. >> i got the call this morning. they asked me to put a statement out confirming it to the world. that is what i did. >> the former prime minister died here at the london ritz hotel where she lives since christmas. barriers have been erected to give her privacy at the start of what may be her final journal -- journey through she flew home from an official trip to madrid and canceled a trip to paris. tonight he paid tribute to a woman he said had not just led the country but had saved it. >> for many of us, she was and is an inspiration. for o

margaret thatcher did not change history, margaret thatcher bent history in every way.he conservatives were really about as weak as could be. over the next four years, this shopkeeper's daughter, who was excluded not only from the men's club, but also excluded from the elite circles in great britain. she led a revolution. it could only be called a revolution and in four years authorities took control of ten downing street. she led for over a decade and she saved great britain's economy. it is strange when you go to great britain, you still don't see that this great woman, you don't see the recognition. but steve ratner, you actually worked for "the new york times" in the early '80s and some of her more tumultous years and without her leader great britain would be france today economically. >> at best. when you say she took over a dead party, she took over a dead country in a lot of ways. britain was still suffering even then from the after effects of world war ii. a poor country, in the grip of organized labor and strikes all the done. a big coal mining country. the tra

thatcher once said there is no such thing as society.here are individual men and women, there are families. no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. david hopper, general secretary of the durham miners association who were crushed by thatcher in a series of violent strikes said she destroyed our community, our villages and our people. she absolutely hated working people and i've got very bitter memories of what she did. we live now still today on the reagan-thatcher access, their legacies reaching forward through the years this their shared contempt, they bequeathed massive inequality. today, decades after they left office f you compare inequality, england and the u.s. are at the top. this is the society that thatcher and reagan gave us. societies of shrinking middle classes and tremendously high levels of inequality. if you do not like that vision, you have little occasion to celebrate margaret thatcher today. joining me, cass sunstein and author of "simpler" and martin bashir. host

president obama, margaret thatcher are polar opposites. exact opposites. >> i think what dana is saying is that he is attempting to do what thatcher did from the other side. which is to pull everybody over towards the left. >> oh, to pull people to the left? >> yeah. that's what i'm trying to say? >> remember what thatcher did, everyone was so far left, she was just bringing some of the left toward the center. >> that's my point. >> i don't think obama is doing that at all. >> no, he is trying. >> he is pulling everybody further to the left. >> let's remember, history tells us there will be a reaction against this and there probably will be a conservative wave coming down the road i'm afraid. >> the one thing, too when you look at the way she spoke, there was no symbolism or airy imagery. it was just plain, spoken stuff. and she could do it better than anybody. >> she earned her way. she wasn't born into a type of political dynasty. >> she helped invent soft serve ice cream. >> the media was terrible to her husband. they liked to paint him

margaret thatcher has died.prime minister in england, in great britain, 1979 to 1990. she led a conservative government for that time. she was a fierce ally of the united states. a great friend to ronald reagan and controversial for some in britain with austerity measures, she battled the unions there. she also led that nation in the falkland war against arrest aga argentina. solidified support within that condition. >> she escaped an ira terrorist bombing at her hotel and she went on eventually to see peace, at that time unthinkable. so she saw a lot of changes over her life time. including 2002, she retired from public life after a series of small strokes and she's been really very private since then. her daughter confirmed in 2008 that she was suffering from dementia, but clearly a woman whose public image was very -- iron lady. >> you say talk about the changes she saw, how about this, she was the first and only so far woman prime minister of britain. and she led that country again through difficult times. a

, thatcher, thatcher, out, out, out. charles spent last night watching and urinary and charles: the ending left me feeling hollow. we toggle between the game and "dynasty" last night. stuart: who should i trust more? who should i go to for financial advice? charles: me. i want to understand everyone in all four quarters of this planet. we will sell them everything from refrigerators to cars. stuart: you say watch out for those companies that sell a lot of their stock in places elsewhere in the world. charles: i think americans have this. view of the rest of the world. the movie itself had a great plot. stuart: good stuff, charles. thank you very much, indeed. connell, it is yours. connell: i really should have watched more of the show

thatcher played in this country's history. >> as our first woman prime minister, margaret thatcher succeeded against all the odds. and the real thing about margaret thatcher is that she she didn't just lead our country, she saved our country. and i believe she'll go down into the greatest british peace time prime minister. >> reaction is beginning to pour in from around the world. and you know, one of the big parts of her legacy was leading this country's effort in the faulkland's war some 30 years ago, which cemented her reputation as the iron lady and also helped her politically here at home. richard. >> scott, thank you so much for the very latest there. martin bashir here in the studio with us, thanks for being here. >> it's great to be here. >> the prime minister calling her the greatest peace time prime minister, but yet she's been described as beating loved and loathed. why? >> because her legacy can be divided in a sense between her successes on the foreign policy front, which were considerable. her and is ronald reagan engaged gorbechev and ultimately in 1989 the berlin wall came do

they captured the essence of margaret thatcher, the women and the essence of margaret thatcher the onen and states of men and we are getting off to such a superstar. i wish to be brief, but i like to put on record she was the best boss i ever worked for. as a chief policy advisor in the middle years and then was able to advise is a member of parliament and a junior minister. the private side of margaret thatcher was so different from the public side, yet many people beyond this house remember the woman who was so fierce and conviction. what we saw, who worked with her closely with someone who worked incredibly long hours with energy intelligence because she was so keen to get it right and she took a very wide range of advice when you are working with margaret thatcher and you have an idea and you're putting it to her, not only did she produce the evidence and the facts many times, the cheap new person after person coming to downing street is going to be given as a kind of test and they didn't know they were part of a running focus, that's your idea was they are in front of the gas and

bare necessary margaret thatcher was 87.shington james rosen, fox news. >> bret: senior political analyst brit hume covered presidents who dealt with thatcher. he joins us tonight with some thoughts. good evening brit. >> good evening, bret. she is recognized for the stead fastness that made her known as the iron lady. she showed that in her years of grin prime ministership and doubts arose about the conservative economic policies she had administered in strong doses to the ailing british economy. she never wavered. and she showed it again in waging war against argentina over possession of the falkland islands. what is less widely acknowledged is that margaret thatcher was very smart and her policies were precisely what britain needed to revive a nation that was regarded then as the proverbial sick man of europe. under her, private business flourished anew in britain and london reclaimed its lost place as a center of world finance. though an unrelenting faux of socialism, thatcher quickly saw soviet leader gorbachev as somet