a meeting, or i think that it is fair to say that both sides would want more, but i think that what we have got with us is the right balance and i look forward to the other conversations and the amendments that the colleagues want to suggest. >> thank you, supervisor avalos? >> thank you. i actually have again, i really appreciate the work that has gone into this legislation. on the community side. and the experience and workers have had for perhaps, decades or forever. and of not having predictbility in their schedules. and of course, negotiations that went on in the offices and the crafting legislation, and so that shows a lot of work and i will be supportive. and i believe that i can support these amendments that are being proposed by president chiu. and there is one that i am not really comfortable with and that is the threshold for 20 employees of the formula retail establishment and to be in this legislation, and i think that if we actually are carving out formula retail establishments with fewer than 20, we encourage there to be the very abuses that we are trying to regulate

so, and i am hoping that by the time that we turn it that way, that we give that enough time to work out the details, so that by the time that comes to the commission, and you know, it is better public policy than what we have right now, because it is what it is. >> commissioner walker? >> i agree and i know that specifically it is not on the agenda specific and the area of code enforcement and we are already seeing cases come to dbi. that have complaints around short term rentals and we, we have directors hearings that are hearing these cases and so our department is already engaged and it would really be wise to hear those issues, that are up, both as we are looking at it, and is this a place that can be rented out to somebody? is it safe? is there health and safety issues? we certainly have the option of looking at those things, at the director's hearing. but, it is not clear to me that we have our ducks or any ducks lined up on this as far as how we are going to evaluate, you know, what is a when is someone living in these buildings and when is it a separate rental, i mean that t

so we think that that it follows a fortiori that if the court relies on statute, that we meet that statuted, of course, that that makes perfect sense. if the chief justice were -- yours. and yours says, "there shall be regulations prohibiting the disclosure of information obtained or developed in carrying out security" and now here's the criterion " if the under secretary decides disclosing information would be detrimental to the security of transportation." now, that it seems to me could include everything from a spark plug that is deficient in the -- airplane to a terrorist. and i don't i mean i don't know ow i would judge that. i mean, to the ear telling the cia you can't disclose sources seems a lot narrower than telling the department of transportation or homeland what is it, dot that, everybody in charge of airplanes, you have a regulation, detrimental to the security of transportation. i don't know. how would you decide it? i mean, it sounds to me that that's quite a lot broader and so much can be detrimental to the security of an airplane. >> so, your honor, a couple of points on t

and that, that was good. and that was, and there was good, really trusting relationships getting built more, and the people talking and hitch away and talking to the developers and the developers speaking to each other and we are, and there is another one at the 3:00, which some of us are going to as well. and you know that it is always good and i think that it is positive and it is just unfortunate what happened at the land use and there was a lot of good stuff being done that probably did not seem like that and some of the other things at that hearing were that there were other city departments that we were kind of getting ahead for the dpw were there and they were there actually and but, any way, i think that moving forward, we can make it good, and it is interesting, at the supervisor yee's group, the noise it is not just night noise, it is all noise and it is church bells, it is siren and things that you would not think about that people complain about to 311 and that is going forward that is going to be

so that you know that you can apply. and you are here at the beginning of our meeting when the inspectors talked about the businesses that were not in compliance. >> right. >> and so i think that we don't want you to be one of those and don't want to put the fines on you and the police coming out every weekend and so these are just initiatives for you to run a good business. >> i am sorry, i thought that i was confused there because i thought that you were getting this just because of the... >> right. so. don't worry about that. worry about what is in the policy and making sure that you meet that. >> no problem. >> and i am going to bring the police just to talk about any concerns that they might have and then we will talk about it as a commission. >> thank you. >> >> hello, commissioners, central station is recommending approval, and i believe that the good neighbor policy covers most of the issues that we will have and the big ones have already been talked about in the sidewalk, and you know, the block, as well as in t

>> saying that -- >> that that, too, is real? >> correct. >> yes. >> we are providing two alternative arguments, justice kennedy, one, saying that this does not am to recognition or if the court decides to reach the separation of powers question and views this as somehowism plic kagt the recognition clause that, at this point, the law passed by congress would trump the president, allowing the state department's say so to control because it's an expert in foreign relations would be abdicating an independent function and turn the president into a autocrat whose word controls. we suggest this is a -- analogous the president's authority to enter into executive agreements to resolve foreign claims and that justice though that is not an explicit authorization provided to the president, it is also not exclusive and agreements entered into by the president cannot contra duct or run counter to the express will of congress. with regard to the international response to this, the consequences, first of all, described by the solicitor general

and that does include the other ways that you can reduce your gas use and i think that it is valuable and those things should be made available. and as it was already said and the people need to know what the alternatives not just what you are about to put a bunch of gas in your car and you are bad and at that point you have your credit card out and you have the gap off and you are going to say that oh, my gosh i am going to drive away and not buy gas toetd that is not going to happen, and sometimes i am questioning whether this particular the point of sale is a good place to educate people because they can stop and go home and not buy the cell phone or whatever, the electric knife sharpener, or whatever they were about to buy, how many people are going to change their behavior at that point, i don't know, i do wonder if that is on the bus, by riding the bus you will put x-amount of co2, but i agree that the pounds, i know what 20 pounds of oranges is, because i have carried them, but 20 pounds of co2 is hard for me to imagine, and maybe a little more thought to not necessarily other

, and that -- that provision that had basically -- court created provision that basically existed for nearly 30 years. was no longer any good. so alito, out of the goodness of his heart, decided to sketch out a scenario under which the government could claim that all these records were law enforcement records. basically, basically the argument he made was that any records that deal with security issues are clearly, you know, created to be used for law enforcement purposes. and if any record fits into that category, then, you know, then it -- then down the line it can be used for -- it can be claimed as an exemption. he also said that even earlier supreme court decision which a case called john doe -- john doe corporation versus john doe agency, in which the supreme court decided that a audit that had been conducted by the defense contracting aud itting agency, just plain vanilla audit, that would -- that was more or less publicly available when it was created, qualified as a law exemption record after it became part of a fbi investigation of the contractor. and the argument was that t

or my goal is to reach that agreement on common level warning to meet, an ada and that means that the height and also the working vehicles because of the ada and you can't jump across a gap and you have the different width vehicles and you will hear the presentation shortly. this slide has been around since i joined, seven years ago and it shows, one of each train on the same platform. and that is still my hope. >> thank you. >> dr. reiskin has a question. >> just to, i think that you spoke clearly about the benefits of the common boarding platform, could you kind of looking at it in the opposite, if we don't achieve it, how do you see that impacting the operation of the transit center? >> it will be less we will not be able to get the full number of trains, it will work in the interim, i think, and it is going to be very restrictive for the cal train and difficult. you know, there are things that need to be worked out or we should not be concentrating on the reasons why not. but obviously, that last picture that you see assumes that we have the same kind of operating system. and we d

thinking that we hope that we can negotiate and get that, and that is so i have it at this time. thank you. >> okay. >> thank you, commissioners, john here with are you ban and rose here on behalf of the permit holders, and the permit before you tonight is the culmination of the ten year process to renovate and enlarge the property and the existing two story, one family building will be enlarged to three stories and three dwelling units and first i want to provide a little history about the project and so the previous owners applied for a permit for the project in 2004. and it was issued and in 2006 and 2007 they were cited for performing work outside of the scope of the permit and they had been doing more demolition than was authorized by the permit and after an investigation by dbi and a director's hearing, they, and it was confirmed that the work was outside of the scope of the permit and it was so egregious that a moratorium was placed on the issuance of any of the new permits for five years other than to reconstruct the original building back in the original place. >> if we

, that has everybody involved, that is more ambitious anything that's come before, that has a lasting structure, so you don't have to renegotiating this all the time. but instead you have a structure set, and then an understanding that each x years it be five, there will be debate about whether each x years but countries have to agree on their mitigation commitments, and to have that expectation that it be and higher rain right into the agreement. agreement that elevates more than has ever happened before, adaptation with the understanding that there needs both more planning and more resources to implement the plans. that will provide for financial and technological support for developing countries, and all of structure that a can last and that it's, that not perfect, but is a good strong start. do.'s what we're trying to whether we get there or not, i don't know. of the things that will be most challenging, we're going to in spades in lima and we will see it in paris is the age the fire wall between developed and developing countries, and we are, as i've said, more times than i can c

for that surveillance and that they're comfortable and know that they have the information that they know what's going on, and if they can evaluate what's going on, things will be a lot better when it comes to balancing privacy and security. thank you. >> paul rosenfelt is the founder of the group and he was senior secretary for policy security. >> thank you, members of the board, i appreciate the opportunity to speak with you today. it's really entirely appropriate appropriate in this technological age, and the reason for that is one that puts me in some disagreement with my fellow panel liis panelists. i think as acceptable as they were were somehow outdated and they don't survive the technological challenges we face. the 1973 thunder bird was a marvelous car, but we wouldn't think of holding it out today as the motor, we need a test for privacy today. what would that look like? there are many ways to answer that question, and i think to answer it, you have to begin by thinking about what sort of value privacy is. and here again, i think i find myself in some disagreement with othe

is there any candidate that changes that? path?it that narrow a >> if you think about where we were as a national party a few weeks ago being $26 million in debt and where we were with 80 employees and barack obama had 800 employees. we did not have a lot initially to offer. mitt romney lost by a quarter million votes. granted elect oral college was pretty lopsided but vote totals, you talk about 100,000 in ohio,a, virginia, obviously new hampshire. we are talking about working like dogs to grow the electorate and turn the dial a few little notches in order to win. if we work hard and get a candidate on the ballot that people want to sit down and have a beer with, i think we can win. tell you this. if we did not win purple states on tuesday, it would've an difficult for me to sit here and make a case for you that if we couldn't win the purple state and a good environment with good candidates, it would be difficult to tell you we would be able to win with 75% or 80% turnout. i get the point. my answer to mr. cheney's question would

if you pull out that piece or that piece. on the other hand, what i have said is there's no law that has ever been passed that's perfect. and given the contentious nature in which it was passed in the first place, there are places where if i were just drafting a bill on our own, we would have made those changes back then and certainly as we've been implementing, there are some other areas where we think we can do it even better. so if in fact one of the items on mitch mcconnell's agenda and john boehner's agenda is to make responsible changes to the affordable care act to make it work better, i'll be open and receptive to hearing those ideas. but what i will remind them is that despite all of the contention, we now know that the law works. you've got millions of people who have health insurance who didn't have it before. you've got states that have expanded medicaid to folks who did not have it before including republican governors who concluded this is a good deal for their state. and despite some of the previous predictions

any person who looks at that photo who may or may not know that that photo was uploaded without consent. i think there's a virginia state statute that was passed within -- that went into effect this summer. the first prosecution under that law is under way. it's a rell testifyly narrow law that includes a requirement that there's an intent to coerce harass or intimidate a person by displaying their image and trying to define exactly what kind of -- what the content of the sort of image would be. it's an attempt to draft a fairly narrow line. i don't know if it's been challenged yet under the first amendment. the state of arizona also passed a law, the nude photo law as trying to restrict the ability of people sharing photos without their consent. it would make it a felony. there are no exceptions for news readiness. there's no real acknowledgement that if somebody poses for a photo for an art exhibit and they've clearly given their consent to the person taking the photograph to be included in the exhibit. if someone else then posts that exhibit online, they haven't gotten consent direct

that we run into. >> i think that that is the challenge for both entities that they are both looking to get the broadest number of bids and the, you know, the broadest swath of the companies and it is different for either. and so there is going to have to be a give from one or the other, or there is some creative solutions that i can can't conceive of in terms of how to get that and i think, you know, just speaking from san francisco, and from transbay joint powers authority, you know, our highest preference and need is really a common boarding platform, just because we are constricted in spa*is space for the tunnel and the under grouped and we can't change that shape and it might be possible in san jose, and i don't know (inaudible) at all to add tracks, and with the different boarding platforms but that, and we are not going to have that same flexibility and i would reiterate that from our end that we have to see a common platform and i am glad that you are country confident that we are going to get there in 60 days. >> you mentioned the cap and trade funds, are these funds to pay

border, that that's going to end. but what we do need is to figure out how to reduce the fact that we have 12 million people who are unauthorized or undocumented in this country. and we do need to realize that there are people gaining from the fact that there are people who are not here without a legal status. and a lot of those people include president obama, boehner, the democrats and republicans and politicians that use this issue as a political football to throw it back and forth. and that's just the reality. >> congressman, did you want to jump in on that, or -- >> i mean, whoa. again, what i would ask george is that, you know, if he thinks that we have a problem, then i would like for him to call boehner up. we go back in november and ask boehner to put a bill on the floor. you have tea party influence. you could call some tea party groups. we need the speaker of the house and ask him to put a bill on the floor. >> no. we have asked -- >> you're saying we have a broken system. >> we have asked the president, you

that can be the thing that fuels you forward. so i just -- i don't want that to become the legitimator, you have to show that you are not frustrated before we listen to you or before you will be able to mobilize. i actually think we need a little bit more righteous indignation about how much we've lost, that he's given us, and take this as a moment to try to renew the vision of civil rights that he basically dedicated his life for. >> jose anderson. >> i think professor crenshaw's points are well-taken. i think both he and houston were angriest about the hypocrisy of the constitution as written. i think he thought that even in its words and its language that it was being applied in a way that was hypocritical on its face and i think that's really what most of his fight was about, is that you can't get on with validatingvalidating yours society when in society when yo live and govern yourselves be by the structural hypocrisy. i think that fuelled everything he did from the first cases he did to the last opinion he wrote listing al

but the flip side of that is that an officer's belief that you needed all of your brake lights, and that is not actually law, does not mean that that person is guilty. the defendant here or driver actually could not held liable for the brake light violations. so it's not the fact that an officer thinks reasonably that the law is something. that doesn't make it the law. just like if a citizen does not think that's the law, that does not mean they can escape liability. >> there is a problem however -- i'm sorry. the police officer wasn't stopping him because of a brake light. the police officer was involved in a criminal interdiction and admitted that this was a pretext. a lawful protection, he thought. so he wasn't there just to tell him if he had just stopped him and said "fix your brake light" and drove away, there'd never be a lawsuit, correct? >> that's correct. >> so how many citizens have been stopped for one brake light who are asked to have their car searched? and is that something that we as a society should be encouraging? >> well, wholly innocent people are stopped quite often

that what comes with that is that we're preparing our students that make -- for them to make an impact on that global stage in an economic sense. so i think with program development and in the assessment of those programs going forward, we actually spend a lot of time doing that. and i'll also add that along these lines, the university has opened what we call global gateway offices in three countries around the world, one in shanghai, china, one in mumbai, india, and i had the bless of being in sao palo just three weeks ago. the problem is the gateways that provide portals into those countries is to really make sure that ohio state is well connected to these countries on all dimensions, education, and for the economic impact that we can have in those countries. >> it's poised to open in the fall of 2015, what does this cost, who pays for it and why do you think it's worth it? >> we actually opened it on time, because like i mentioned just a moment ago, i traveled down to sao palo to officially cut the ribbon and open the office. the $250,000 comes directly from my budget in the office

that is sad, that is very sad. but why is that? we live to well? things that e the we enjoy? a third t time they saw world country, every american see what is like. to realize the freedom that we enjoy. we get more moved away from that. sometimes we think that it cannot happen to us. know what reality is. it can happen to us. to reeducate our future young men and women, on that mindset. from their not come classmates, friends but from parents. if the parents do not. who is going to? thankfully there are those who and already on board to serve and sacrifice, but it should be this whole country that does. that is where we need to start. [applause] >> i'm not sure. i do feel, maybe it's this egocentric. that god blessed me with a lot of common sense, which i think lost in this country, a lot of common sense. what we had become taught. difference al between the japanese and americans, i cannot speak for was not over se i there. principal difference between we want and americans, to survive and we're going to can do in possibly order to preserve that life. that believe was, it was

that might be hesitant in applying that rule? >> the thing that i think to say is that we are working hard at making our programs of service inclusive and our public programs inclusive and it is something through the staff training and stuff that we send out to people regularly, and it is just something that is grown to be part of our culture, so, >> thank you. >> i don't know what else to say about that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> moving back to agenda item 6, information item and a review of the civil service rule, 115 and, its implementation for hiring people with disabilities. >> the presentation by donna. >> let me apologize for being late, i looked at it twice and it said 2:30 and so i am here at 2:30, thank you for accommodating me. >> i am the director at the department of workforce services and with me is ed who is the newly acquired recruiter and i will talk about him later. i thought that i would do a quick recap, in 1985, prop a was passed to amend the city charter so that qualified individuals with disabilities c

that that was, that function was being fulfilled. i think some staff members are also cleared for some of the other committees, i don't have all of that information in front of me, i believe judiciary has clear staffers, whether or not that's enough staff to be cleared. i don't know. i think congress, it would be for my personal perspective it would be helpful if congress figure ld out for itself which committees are performing which function and which staff members need to be cleared in order to oversee our activities, then we can assess it. i would certainly support a desire to make sure that there are enough cleared staff to perform oversight, absolutely. >> so transitioning to the member questions and while this is happening, just reminder, there are folks with cards if you have questions that you'd like to submit from the public and to keep everyone on their toes, this time i'm going to start with pat. >> okay. you may be sorry about that choice. i might not be, they might be. this is somewhat of a loaded question, but it's one

with the ideas that that the republicans have. there will be some ideas that i have got that i think the evidence backs up would be good for the economy. and republicans disagree. they are not going to support those ideas, but i will keep on arguing for them because i think they are the right thing for the country to do. there are going to be some ideas that they have got that they believe that will improve the economy or create jobs that from my perspective isn't going to help middle class families improve their economic situation. so i probably won't support theirs. but i do think there will be areas where we do agree on infrastructure and making sure that we are boosting american exports. and part of my task then is to reach out to republicans, make sure that i'm listening to them. i'm looking forward to them putting forward a very specific agenda in terms of what they would like to accomplish. let's compare notes in terms of what i'm looking at and what they are looking at. and let's get started on those things where we agree.

it's not clear at the moment how that does that. and in fact, rachel, it's a very, every camera angle we have is of a very thin group of protesters. this is not the mass that we saw this summer. it seems if we are to judge by what we can get within our frames of the cameras, that most people who protested decided to stay hole and take this news at home tonight. >> that, that may well be. we also heard from craig melvin earlier where we had been able to see a large concentration of people outside the ferguson police department. an order was given to disburse. people did seem to disburse. things did get a little hairy at times. i think joy's question is a good one. i mean, if you go back to the initial demonstrations, including the ones that turned problematic in the first few days after the killing of michael brown. remember what the police ordered. they ordered that people only protest during the day. it didn't work. people protested at night. but they said even and sometimes very reasonably. it seems people can be peaceful during t

that is the most egregious thing certainly that most -- that both parties are entitled to your vote. your vote is your vote and it is your power and your responsibility to use that vote in a manner you see fit and vote for candidates that you think represent you the best. not who you believe is going to win the horse race that actually is our political system has turned into. >> let's get some clarity on an issue, please. you both mention the bush family a couple of times. miss nunn, your campaign is using the former president george bush in a campaign ad. but this is what was said by one of the president's spokespersons. he said that "michelle nunn and her team have been repeatedly told the president bush did not want to use this photo as part of this campaign." that ad is still running. why? >> that ad is a perfect embodiment of my message, which is that i am going to work with who ever the president is, whether it is republican or democrat. in that ad is president george h bush, whom i have worked with, president clinton, and president obama. and i believe we have too much of the

why do we think that that's corruption? why do we think that that's corrupt? witticisms why? what does corruption main? it means the basement, defilement and destruction of something. how do you have a view of corruption if you don't first have a few of propriety or if you think about it in terms of the deceased body corrupted by disease of germs, you wouldn't know when something is corrupt. you can't think i don't have any idea what the good looks like but what the corrupt version of that looks like. let me ask you. how can we give the government that we actually have today as corrupt just because individua individuals, sorry. how can we view the process of a businessman or corporation for private interests trying to access government officials to campaign donations or lobbying as corrupt? the reason i asked it that way is i want you to think about not the government as it is conceived of in the constitution declaration of independence but the government would actually have. think about it like this. so every election seas do we not hear some variant of the following? vote f

would put him on that. >> that is very astute. that is right. there is a great element in churchill of self-assessment. he knows exactly who he is. he has napoleon and nelson, busts of both of them on his desk. remember that he was not a tall man, he was a shrimpy guy who built himself up using dumbbells and morally, also. >> you do have a feeling that he believed so much in his own capacity that he could be britain, that he was willing to do almost anything to make that happen. whether it meant to shifting parties or whatever was necessary. to get power. >> yes, yes. there had been no one like him before our sense in british politics because he left to tories and then rejoined them. he says he had been consistent but he abandoned free-trade and came back to free-trade. this renegade, this trader is made chancellor of the exchequer. >> the recognized that he had real ability. >> they did. everybody knew throughout his career that they were dealing with somebody exceptional. >> so everybody knew. but not to be trusted. >> correct.

is one other thing that we have recommended that we can do and but that typically is of the common area of of the building, and there is not a requirement right now in the housing code, that requires that when you rent a dwelling unit that you have an inspection, there is not. we will sometimes go in to obviously for residential hotels we will do the room to room inspections depend oning what is happening with that hotel, we don't do the ip specs ls of the dwelling units unless there is a complaint or a specific history with that building or a city attorney task force inspection. generally the inspection is in a common area and that has been in the housing code for a while and perhaps in of the things that you are suggesting if you have a single family dwelling there is not a requirement, after it is built and it receives its certificate of final completing and occupancy, unless there is a complaint, we don't inspect that it is a complaint driven situation, whether it is the whole dwelling unit or a room within that unit, before they rent it, there is no requirement of the inspection, c

that's the scientific premise. is that true? >> i thought so. >> in the casey anthony trial... >> in fact there is no nationl standard for any forensic testimony. >> the judge allowed in the smell test when it comes to death? >> and it had never been allowed in a court. >> and what about getting certified in forensics? you can do that online. >> if you want a certificate that says you are certified in forensics, this is the place to go to. >> tonight ofrontline, correspondent lowell bergman joins with propublica in an investigation of one of the increasingly controversial tools of the criminal justice system: forensic science. >> there is something that people need to understand about bad expert witness testimony and bad science: it doesn't just put innocent people in jail, it leaves murderers on the street. frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. and by the corporation for public broadcasting. major support for frontline is provided by the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundat

so there's parts that are like that. components like that that you can address. but also, for a need-based student, can we use our world campus to give essentially an cd online semester scholarship? where in the summer you take t a nine credits and we make sure that student in taking those kio credits doesn't have to take on debt? different kindo of scholarships the way to think about it.th and then, we make -- we make up for the fact that they didn't take as many credits during the year. i also like the idea of lookingu at a student and saying, okay, i you're going to work 20 hours a week. andbu at minimum wage job. but we don't want you to work more than 20 hours a week. you work 20 hours a week and then we look at what your famil, contribution is and the scholarships and the loans. and if there's a gap, there's an unmet need, can we deliver a kind of penn state promise that we'll fill that gap? so for all the pennsylvania lara students, additional scholarships on the order of $30 million. and we could look every single one of those students in the eye don't wo

i think that that is all that i have to talk about. did you want to talk? >> sure. >> hi, i'm steven, again. yeah, so i wanted to talk to you about a part of the project that i spent some time working on, thinking about. and which is, peter and both peter and (inaudible) already mentioned the sort of organizing and understanding of the data. and for a visualization/computing project, the data format, and structures that are very important, and i, and there are a number of sort of technical issues that are, that i can touch on i guess. so one of the first things that we tried to do with the data, is simply draw a correlation between things and so you saw ash's visualization, that drew a correlation between lobbying event, and contributions. and we were interested in doing the same thing for lobbying events and voting records. and you know, and for every variable in the data set there is a corresponding correlation that can be made against all of the other variables in the data set. and so we were also interested in connecting this data set up with other ones

that we make that consistent in this ordinance as well. but colleagues, i look forward to the discussion that we are going to have today and the feedback that we are going to hear from the public comment as we move this forward. >> supervisor avalos has a question? >> actually, i didn't have any anything to say, except this legislation is something that i am really excited to support. it is legislation that has been a long time coming especially in a way that our economy works, and workers have been squeezed over the past 30 years and having some predictbility to scheduling, and having some standards in place about retention. and makes so much sense, and it will give workers and in san francisco, some real leverage to make sure that they have a workplace, that is going to be considering their full lives. and i do have a concern about franchise agreements with 20 or less employees being carved out of this legislation, and not being subject to this legislation. and to me, that we can fit and dramatically, and i don't think that we need to ha

frederick hayek knew that. ronald reagan knew that. we know that. that is the great strength. we are right, as he was, and they are wrong. because they are wrong, their policies won't work, and because the american people ultimately are adults, they can see that. host>> i guess that kind of cous as a cheerful ending. [laughter] [applause] do you guys have some questions to ask these gentlemen? line-up. what would reagan do? [laughter] >> i guess i'm first. >> they expect you to be shorter. >> five nervous. my name is annie. i am a sophomore at university of oregon. conservatives in oregon exist. i go to school into the town, usa. i'm so nervous. my question to you is, i believe that conservatives answer questions about social issues and alienate young people. how should conservatives answer questions about issues to go along with the ideas of expanding our ranks so we promote the whole -- i believe in things socially different from other people in this room -- how should we answer the question? >> the perception that liberals like to give the public about the conservative view

i believe that that and that division would be part of the response. i'm correcting that. >> that is correct. do you know whether or not the secretary transferred money from the cdc's global health programs? >> i would have to get back to you. >> likewise on the cdc's preparedness and public response division. >> i have to get back to you. >> both of those are part of the ebola response. >> you indicated what you don't know and do you know if they were transferred at all? >> they are the secretary's transfer and i don't know the details of what has been done. >> okay. >> so you don't know the details. you would not know if any of this was transferred to help support the financial underpinnings of obamacare? >> i don't know. >> likewise, do you know of any transfers made to the administration by the administration for children and families to care for increasing numbers of unaccompanied children arriving in the united states? >> i am not familiar with that. >> would you give us the answers to all of those? >> i can get you the fair amount of money. part

i believe that that and that division would be part of the response. i'm correcting that. >> that is correct. do you know whether or not the secretary transferred money from the cdc's global health programs? >> i would have to get back to you. >> likewise on the cdc's preparedness and public response division. >> i have to get back to you. >> both of those are part of the ebola response. >> you indicated what you don't know and do you know if they were transferred at all? >> they are the secretary's transfer and i don't know the details of what has been done. >> okay. >> so you don't know the details. you would not know if any of this was transferred to help support the financial underpinnings of obamacare? >> i don't know. >> likewise, do you know of any transfers made to the administration by the administration for children and families to care for increasing numbers of unaccompanied children arriving in the united states? >> i am not familiar with that. >> would you give us the answers to all of those? >> i can get you the fair amount of money. part

did i get that right? >> of that committee. >> of that committee, okay. that's the new one. that's no. 5. okay, i'm going to read it one more time because we're adding one. no. 5, the committee chair shall have the power to appoint other members of the commission to temporarily serve on the committee to meet the quorum requirements of that committee. is that -- that's it? >> correct. >> two, four, five, we still have a quorum here. are there any other questions about any of these comments under general duties of the chair? hearing none, i will call for the question. all in favor of approving the five general duties of the committee chair say aye. opposes? the ayes have it and so the motion is carried. committee members, members of the committee, attend scheduled meetings and special meetings as may be called by the committee chair, prepare for the meetings by studying agenda and related materials to become as well informed as possible on all agenda items, actively participate in committee deliberation, proposed policies, standards and plans, act as a representative of the co

s that that been discussed at all? >> sir, i'm not aware of any o discussions in that regard. >> would you be in favor of removing the fence around the white house or having virtual or electronic fence around it? >> sir, my knee-jerk reaction that, no, sir, partly because of the number of tourists coming up pennsylvania avenue and coming up to that area to take picturep and what not. >> secretary said number of times, secretary napolitano, the fence was worthless. you put a 10-foot fence up, somebody will build a 12-foot ladder. i would think if the administration will be consistent it is now time to remove the fence from around the white house, because if it isn' good enough for our border, it shouldn't be good enough for the white house. so i ask you to consider that consistency and also consider the fact that maybe there really is some real virtue in having a fence that slows people down, and with that, i yield back. >> i thank the gentleman. anybd director, as originally scheduled we'll take a short recess. give yo

with that issue and how we cannot produce that. that has to come from the state itself, from their own people and from the leadership. and leadership has been very differential, and we see across the board serious problems. but we have no opportunity to re-create the colonial world. that's gone. and in many ways we have to operate in a situation where we have fully to respect not only leaders but publics while at the same time seek to work with them to persuade them that their future can be better and that we're in a position to help. i just talked some time ago about energy, the environment, and climate change. i won't say a lot about that. i do think that, as we move ahead, climate change is a hugely befuddling and very challenging problem. it's one of the few problems now whose life span is a great deal longer than ours and therefore those who are comfortable and have reached advanced age but are still in charge of decisionmaking feel less imperative and less imperative about venturing large amounts of money to deal with somethi

produce that kind of progress that result ina result, patience. >> all right. that's fine. thank you both for giving me food for thought. coming in.e you i'll yield back. >> thank you. mr. jones. >> mr. secretary, it's kind of ironic. time i heard before today a secretary of defense involvementilitary in iraq was secretary donald runsfeld. i know isis is evil. no question about it. need to be taken out. but i looked at some of your statements from 2002, when you you feltnator and how about the obligation of a member of congress to make a decision to send a young man or a woman to die. statementsed at your in 2007 when, like myself, you the surge innst iraq. now we are possibly going to be thed by the president of united states, like we were by bush, to authorize an aufm. abdi youothing but an -- abdication of our obligation. adam shift tried to sunset out the aufm that we gave to which has been used by president obama. not understand how we in congress can continue to what the constitution says is our responsibility. james madison once said, the power to declare war, includ

and i believe that that is going to be his underlying objective moving forward. >> does that mean that the house and senate republicans will be coming together themselves on things and then sending them to obama and seeing what he'll do? for do you think they'll be will to be work things out ahead of time? >> hopefully beginning this week when the police will be melt with the bipartisan leadership that is the first step in the process. both the president and congress have to learn to work together, to develop political compatibility on the issues that matter to this country. there will obviously be areas on which they differ. but they have to find areas of common ground and reach agreement on some critical issues to move this country forward, most especially when it comes to the economy and also on the budget. so from that standpoint, it would be wise for the republican leadership and the president to be able to work in sing krone on -- synchrony on some of these issues. both in the lame duck, laying the ground work for the new congress, and then with the new congress beginning, obviou

that overwhelming vote that they cast, that hateful vote that they cast, they were so proud of themselves that after voting they stood up and applauded themselves. what a great moment in their minds for the house of representatives. the presiding officer: the senator's time has expired. mr. durbin: i ask consent to speak for an additional five minutes. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin: what a terrible moment in the history of this nation. now the president of the united states having waited for a year and a half, having heard all the promises of the house republicans that he -- that they would move forward and finally call this bill, having been promised privately and even publicly by many of these republicans that they were going to do something, now the president has said i'm going to use my authority, my authority under the law to try to fix at least some part of this broken immigration system. we're expecting any day now for the president to announce his executive order. he will not be the first president to do this. past administrations, democratic and republican,

that the best practice ought to be to do that as well that the market mechanism that drives the relationshipis very different. >> though last question i will throw out that several of you have talked about the element of control but then others have written it cannot be the absolute value it has to be balanced. so if ever betty surprise or controls that piece of information so what kinds of principles would you apply to recognize some balance that even with that fourth amendment with that clause? >> but with the vast majority of circumstances it did balance that to give us the override to show probable cause of criminal activity. the supreme court has recognized some that are controversial. we do have to follow the cases to say the search was reasonable even though there was no warrant. but you have to get a warrant based on the other point i would make it is too often a trump card. and the cato institute made an excellent point* that when you look at courts with national security they tend to be large over that person's particular information that is not the right comparison you weigh that

and if they say that i'm fat, go beyond that. ask them has something happened or what's -- what are you feeling, what else is going on. >> all right, rebecca. we have so much good advice from you today and we'll find it online. thank you for being here, really appreciate it. >> thank you, cheryl. >> and that is all the time we have for today. my thanks to all of our guests. for more information about today's program, go to our website, abc7news.com/community. ) - ( snaps, clatters ) that sounds awful. ( music stops ) but a lot better than last week. ( rock music playing ) ♪ we weren't born to follow. ♪ >> announcer: the following is a paid advertisement for rotorazer, brought to you by ideal living." >> uh-oh! can't find the right saw for the job? you need a hand saw for this, a circular saw for that, a band saw, a miter saw, and a jig saw? and with all the different blades, that job's turned into an expensive jigsaw puzzle! not anymore! hi, everybody! i'm joe fowler, and this is the rotorazer. over 3,000 screaming rpms of worksh

and it was stated by the commission, and the secretary that at that hearing that because of this, and also in our staff report, we listed them very clearly as dr requestor and that was public that was publicly available before the hearing, but regrettablely for the staff to give this information to the to miss smith. and that said, this is a denovo hearing and there were two appeals filed and they have had the time here to present, and believe that the board can remanned this back to the planning commission or the department for review, and that i trust that the board gives this item a full and fair hearing. >> and listen to the concerns and address those as appropriate. >> and just to the points that was raised we feel that it is modest, and the expansion of the building, that adjacent to the property to the north, which will be the most impacted, it is notched at the back at the third story and when we think that this is the address and the issues for the property and a lot of concerns for the view and it is not protected, and the potential legal unit and there is no second unit on

that i guess that i am just concerned that the same conditions that putting out the initial bids beforethe final designs were complete and subsequently adding in the other significant addenda to the ve or the alternate and we are swruft going to see this pattern and should we expect this pattern to be repeating? as the remaining big packages come in? >> well, director reiskin, we are done designing and the designing is done, and we have done with it and we have already awarded the plumbing, and we have already awarded the mechanical. and what we have left is our packages that are 30 million dollars or less, and many of them are less than 20 million dollars and we expect to, and maybe you can help me here, we expect based on the current survey that web corp has we next three bidders >> when is the last big run? >> this is the biggest one. >> and this the owning is the next one which is in the 40 millen range and the glazing which are due on the awning and the design built to the budget and that is the 30 million dollars and the trade package are 20 and under. >> and so this is the bigges

that is the change that people want. hillary clinton in her own record, and in general linens communicate a different kind of notion. it is competence, qualifications, getting things done every and the ability to compromise to do that. that is the history there. people have very positive memories of the clinton years, perhaps more positive than they were at the time. secretary clinton herself has shown an ability to work with the person that beat her in the primary. tom delay, she authored the foster care bill for children. last night was a mandate about get something done. >> in a few minutes we will be taking questions. if you line up at the microphones. do you agree with what she is saying about secretary clinton? >> there is no question that secretary clinton will be a very formidable candidate. i don't think anyone believes she won't be. i will sell you that it is exceedingly difficult for one party to win three presidential elections in a row. history suggest that is a very unusual event. it occurred in 1988 with g

boehner said r that the president has the authority to do that. that is wrong.there needs to be serious in congress about this. congress needs to be fully on board and fully responsible for the united states does in the middle east. regards to y in putting americans to engage in military activity. >> here we have the democrats line. >> i'm of the opinion that we are flirting with another war in the middle east. have not encompassed anything in our going into the middle east to begin with. the only thing -- we need to sit down and figure out just exactly what we can do to help. we do not need to keep talking about fighting in the middle east. it is really nothing to do with that. who are we attacking? i don't think we even know who we are fighting against. >> she actually raises some important questions. george w. esident bush's foreign-policy run? it was wrong because the people that we elect -- they protect the liberty and prosperity of american people. it is not to change the world. the if you want to change world, you can't. i think that is what president bus