[applause] linda serves as the administrator of the small business administration and has one of the more glamorous jobs which i know she loves and we are so proud and think to have her. she played an important role in the process in getting the tax legislation passed and we will continue pushing for that. as a member of the cabinet she strikes on behalf of the 30 million small businesses in america and makes short entrepreneurs have the tools they need to start, grow and succeed in business and prior to joining, she had the perfect job to prepare her to wrestle with the media and fight on behalf of the small businesses as she was the founder and ceo of world wrestling entertainment. a few of you got that joke and some will get it later. she knows a lot about how to help grow and empower small-business since she helped wrote hers from a third team person regional operation to a publicly traded enterprise with more than 800 employees and offices worldwide. i'm sure she spoils her grandchildren a lot. with that, i will turn it over to the administrator. >> thank you very much. >> we re

the george w. bush administration. we are pushing to make sure that our agenda reflects real agency priorities so the public can have a must -- a much better sense of what is coming. we have also made a number of technical changes, the agenda is now searchable, and my staff is in a process of working on making some of these changes consistent with the federal register, with new rules going forward. while there have been new reforms, there is also a lot of continuity in what we are doing. we are continuing to follow long-standing principles of centralized regulatory review that you can find in executive order 12 866 issued by president clinton. samee continuing with the cost-benefit standards. that is some of the technical parts of it. reform efforts go beyond some of the numbers you can see on our website. they go beyond individual deregulatory actions. we are also systematically trying to crack down on bad regulatory practices and make sure agencies are proceeding in a manner that is consistent with law. even when an a

she is the administrator of the office of administration and regulatory affairs. her appearance today is reminding me of one of the first events i ever did here at brookings. it was probably eight years ago. nervous, so i bit was walking around outside, and getting warmed up. there was a group of protesters out front, one of whom was costng an oscar the grouch oscar the grouch costume with the trashcan, a fake sign in front of him, they were singing a creatively written song, a play on oscar's song, i love trash. it was creative and effective because without that i would never have remembered the ash disposal rule. [laughter] so there you go. there is nothing so exciting happening outside the room today. the story does highlight a serious point, which is that the is of the administrator always controversial and frequently contentious. it is responsible for vetting agency's tallies of the benefits and costs of federal regulation. it can sink a rule or turn it back to the agencies. it is a powerful position and office within the federal government. the oira officer i

what is the administration doing to address that issue? >> so the department of justice enforcement of the international terrorism, our focus on the contact of, that is down to be committed by individuals. no matter where they are born, the statistics that you have for the first time compiled in this way in response to the executive order directed to therein demonstrate that the international terrorism offenses that we prosecute international syndication achieve convictions on, that there 72% 72% foreign corporate were going to prosecute. anyone we can make cases against that are posing threats to the national security of the united states. the statistics that are brought before you in the section respond directly to the directed in the executive order about international tourism. those are the statistics that my division keep. >> thank you, sir. my question is -- thank you. >> your next. >> basically this, has there been any change in the administrations stated policy about using guantÁnamo in dealing with international terrorists at all?

i am actually supportive of the administration's, the u.s. administration's approach now which is to say you don't certify the deal if we don't know for sure they are complying. there are reasons we believe they aren't complying including the fact that we don't have access to some of the military installations, the iranians claim that the deal didn't include the military installations. my reading of the iran deal was p was loosely ambiguous -- urposefully ambiguous. to get the deal done but then the united states position was we did have access to them if we wanted them and the iranians said we simply don't have access to them. so there are some things i'm already suspicious of that the iranians could be cheating on the margin as we speak. anyway, i believe the approach is good not to certify but continue to stay in the deal and put pressure. for all of the reasons. it took years of bipartisan work to get the sanctions on the iranian regime, to get the international isolation on the iranian regime. it took an enormous amount of diplomatic heav

why is it good for the administration? >> i don't think it's good for the administration. the president's comment is correct that i think one of the reasons you asked mr. ryan one ofhe questions why are we doing this, why are we here right now. i think part of the reason is that this is the first anniversary of the president's inauguration. i think the left wing of the democrat party is extraordinarily disappointed with how the first year has gone because the president has good many successes, the tax bill, success in the stock markets, advances that we've had in employment. and i think one of the reasons you're seeing the democrats pick this fight right now, reason that it is different, has in the past because here we are on the first anniversary, should we be be talking about successes instead talking about radio shut down idea why is it considered a present and why is it good you? said it was cool to shut down the government. people are one hand being told this is great disaster for military families then these other signals. >> my comment was that i just thought it was

fratto: i think, to go back to the clinton administration, early in the clinton administration, you saw some dysfunction and changes of chiefs of staff and george was a spokesman and not spokesman. those kinds of things that happened. again, when you have real outsider campaigns coming into the white house, who are trying to do things with new people and new ways, i think you tend to see this kind of thing. i still think this is a little bit on the -- certainly on the outlier relative to other white houses. that's pretty clear. another big part of that is that i don't think they really expected to win. and they weren't -- they didn't -- they didn't do a whole lot of planning before-hand. i could tell you, -- we had the shortest, truthfully the shortest transition of any white house because we had the recount. so from the day of the recount until inauguration day was i think 32 days or 31 days. really, really short transition. but, boy, personnel was way ahead of where this administration was. or maybe any administration. again, reflecting of the real discipline on the process for people

have taken the second option, the trump administration is taking the first option, taking this very letter of the law approach without making any considerations for, say, the almost 200,000 u.s.-born children forks the kind of communities that have grown up. this is 16% of all el salvadorians in the u.sía that they are sale the reason for us giving you status is gone and taking that away. >> desjardins: advocates say many have children andÑi mortgas here. what are their options at this point? >> the administration gave 18 months more they can apply for one last work permit to figure out their operations. at that point, if they have spouses that are legal residents or u.s. citizens or childrenÑi above age 21, they have people who will be able to petition for them to get green cards. other than that, it's going to be a question of whether they can find some other way to potentially get status into the u.s. >> desjardins: that's the minority, probably. >> right, it's very difficult for someone to go from not having an obvious pathway to being able to stay in the u.s.

is this something the administration is concerned about? mr. mnuchin: again, i think we've said under the last administration the debt has gone from $10 trillion to $20 trillion. and of course we're focused on the debt. and that's why we're focused on economic growth. this tax plan was about economic growth that will create more revenues for the economy and more tax receipts for -- reporter: so then what can we realistically expect the national debt to be by the end of the -- and this is not hypothetical, but by the end of the president's first term? mr. mnuchin: i don't have a projection for that right now, but thank you. reporter: thank you, mr. secretary. you talk about the tax being flatter and 90% of the taxpayers benefiting from it. yet it would seem that under those circumstances you're going to eliminate a lot of the deductions, which so many small businesses and self-employed people depend on. is there really a major cut in deductions and how do you expect that will play with the small business community? mr. mnuchin: i think this is ab

pruitt, both the bush administration and the obama administration's epa concluded that global warming pollution from cars and suvs was dangerous. this is known as the endangerment finding. a federal appeals court also upheld this finding after you tried to overturn it. when you appeared before us in our confirmation hearing a year ago, you agreed that the endangerment finding was, quote, the law of the land, closed quote and that rule of law matters, closed quote. you also made statements in congress no fewer than a dozen times. for example, last year, you told reuters there might be a legal basis to overturn the epa's decision. you also stated in september and october of last year that the process epa used to make the decision was flawed. mr. pruitt, the white house -- trump white house said it wants the epa and the transportation department to negotiate what i would describe as a win-win on cafe and tailpipe standards with california that. means the policy of the trump administration must be to find the endangerment fienlding alone because it's what gives the pea and california the

top of mind for the administration. and he has a full understanding. don't believe me, ask speaker ryan. look to the comments that he made. he's somebody who has been in constant contact, had many discussions with the president on this issue. and he stated that in his press conference earlier today. reporter: how exactly was the trump campaign so badly surveiled and abused under fisa as he seemed to claim in that tweet? sarah: i think that there are a lot of things that indicate the surveillance that took place there. and i'm not sure what the part of confusion is on that front. you guys have reported on it many times. reporter: if you're a dreamer out there, should you have confidence that this president is going to reach an agreement that will protect you from being supported? sarah: you should. i think you saw that. you guys got to come into the room in a pretty unprecedented way and sat in there for almost an hour listening to the president talk about it, listening to the president commit to getting a solution on this. right now we're counting on re

the nation. thank you. administratorthis is a direct correlation to your effort at the epa to streamline the regulatory process that has for many years negatively impacted. kreider's ability to hire workers because they are forced to allocate resources to comply with many commerce and regulations. this past year has been a welcome change or nebraska's public power utilities, farmers and ranchers in manufacturers and small business owners. i am encouraged by the epa's recent decision to revisit the 2017 regional hayes rule which was issued in the final days of the obama administration. if implemented that rule would take authority away from the states impose a one-size-fits-all federal implementation plan that simply does not make sense. many rural utilities have been adversely affected by past regional hayes actions. during the prior administration epa repeatedly second-guessed states plans including nebraska's 2012 plan and instead impose federal plans that forced the end enforcement of costly controls that went well be

if you want to do business with the trump administration. ent has made it very clear that he feels very emotionally attached to that hotel and he's certainly financially attached to it. >> and it's not just about -- >> especially if he sees those kinds of numbers that are exceeding anyone's expectations. richard painter, thank you very much. we'll definitely have you back, because this story is not going away anytime soon. and this one is for ari. i guess you win some and you lose some, as long as the outcome is income. we'll be right back. well, thomas, you've got prediabetes. but with more exercise and a change in diet, it can be reversed. but i've tried exercising, and it just makes me hungry for bacon. i love bacon, too. and who really likes to exercise? not me. me neither. nobody! [both laughing] mmm! so we're good? what? oh, you still have prediabetes... big time. let with one a day women's. a complete multivitamin specially formulated with key nutrients plus vitamin d for bone health support. your one a day is showing. save up to $8 on

that was not in the prior administration. trump has come out and done that and made those statements. i think that would be very, very fruitful to do. when you talk about the conflict between the arabs and the israelis, the number one issue as why there is a conflict is the palestinians arabs do not recognize israel to be a state. the land and all this other state, they don't view israel as having a right to exist. they want potentially a deal at some point only if it is a stepping stone to israel's ultimate destruction. so for us backing anial eye like israel, we shouldn't be pressuring them to do a deal. so i think that how the trump administration has gone with this and it was flushed out when the president made his jerusalem announcement is to look at the conflict and twump put this in his tweet, we put jerusalem off the table. i think that makes it more likely that you get a deal because they are not going to be under any illusion. but with the embassy decision that the president made, i thought it was one of the best spe

sanders: the president has released a number of statements as have i, the administration jim mattis, secretary of , defense, they have all talked extensively about north korea and to try to limit it down to one tweet is disingenuous. the president is aware of how the process works and what the capacity of the united states is and it is greater than that of north korea. >> two foreign policy questions. yesterday, you said there would be more details on pakistan. we are seeing reports the administration plans to announce wednesday and thursday that it plans to cut off security assistance. ms. sanders: we will keep you posted as decisions are finalized. >> regarding jerusalem and israel, the president tweeted last night that we have taken jerusalem, the toughest part of the negotiation, off of the table, but israel would have to pay more. first, taking it off the table, when the president announced jerusalem was the capital of israel, the administration policy stated that the borders had not been decided and it does not affect negotiations. the tweets seem to contradict that. ms. sanders

the negotiations over nafta? how concerned is this administration over the fact that canada has recently made a complaint to the w.t.o. and that mexico is concerned that this administration will in short order withdraw from nafta? mr. mnuchin: we gave the president an update this morning on trade. i think he's very pleased with where things are going. ambassador lighthouser is doing an amazing job renegotiating 1/2 and it we expect that we'll be renegotiated or we'll put out. reporter: a lot going on with taxes but can you give us an update on treasury's progress on this list of russian oligarchs that congress had asked for? i believe we were expecting it sometime in january. can you let us know where that's at? mr. mnuchin: we're working on it as we speak. it should be released in the near future. it's something we're very focused on. reporter: if i heard you correctly, you're predicting there won't be a great increase or decrease rather in the number of american taxpayers who -- get a refund, basically the same number will get a refund that have been expecting to get a refund all along. is that correct? mr. mnuchin

how is the administration doing? is it doing better than the obama administration? have we seen a fundamental change in u.s. foreign-policy over the last year or is there more continuation then radical reform going on? and if i could ask michael to answer the question first. bigt is an impossibly question so i will put some provocations on the table. i am completing an op-ed with david gordon which is supposed to be in usa today on this question. we are both moderates. democraticed in both and republican offices in congress and the executive branch. i am a moderate to hawkish democrat. you would expect us to be wary of president trump and i am personally. his style. his approach make me nervous. -- makes me nervous. i did not support him in the campaign. all that being said, i am surprised in many ways on how much continuity there has been in american foreign-policy in 2017. i don't inc. president trump has been better than president obama. at an individual level, i think president obama was a better diplomatic style but president trump has assembled such a strong te

is this something that the administration is concerned about. >> we have signed them and said under theadministration that the debt has gone from 10 trillion to 20 trillion, of course we are focused on that. this tax plan was about economic growth that will create more revenue for the economy and more tax receipts. >> so what can we realistically expect the national debt to be by the end -- by the end of the president's first term. >> i will make an objection for that right now. but thank you. >> thank you, mr. secretary. you talk about the tax being flatter and 90% of the tax payers benefiting from it. it would seem that under those circumstances you are going to eliminate a lot of the deductions, which so many small businesses and self-employed people depend on. is there really a major cut in deductions? how do you expect that we'll play with the small business community? >> this is about tax simplification and getting rid of deductions. a lot of the deductions that rich people take. but i will tell you on small businesses, one of the best features of the tax plan are all of the featu

to the to the situation look i believe this move on the part of the trump administration is going to bring pakistan to the table look you learn in life that unfortunately in many ways money talks if the stuff with the money stop the flow of money stopping its entrance into back pakistan is going to bring them to the table and yes i believe at one point they're going to realize that they are now being negatively impacted severely without that financial aid they'll come to the table but then let me take this question to mr said the what if the move back flies and the pakistanis decided to ally with align themselves with the russians for example or with the chinese and saying you know what would come to us the americans have betrayed us many times in the past this look for a different alternative. well on the issue of terrorism both the russians and the chinese interest are very closely aligned with the us the taliban have been aligned with movements in china that have carried out terrorist attacks and the taliban have been aligned with movements who have carried out terrorist attacks in

i understand what the administration is saying. mpact to our hemisphere, the united states and our economy and potentially to incentivize folks from the southern border, those are factors that have to be taken into consideration. i'm hoping the administration will reconsider this move that was taken recently. >> dana: several countries have had this protective status granted to them. paul, honduras, nicaragua, sudan, south sudan, haiti, el salvador. for example, in el salvador, yet the issue of the earthquakes, the infrastructure apparently has been repaired. therefore, they are following the law. they have to follow that. what about the economic impact of the united states? not considering remittances, is that persuasive at all for the administration? >> again, they've inherited a very difficult situation from the previous administration. we have to recognize that. they are trying to do the best job they can. in this particular case, some of the things you mentioned should be taken into consideration. we have a system at tps which

they rule against the administration. we've seen a real erosion of the checks that were put in place by the founders. so hard to find much of a silver lining this year. i have to hope that things will improve the future, but it will largely depend on the congress' willingness to stand up to the worst impulses of this administration. >> what should democrats do to work bet we are the white house? >> i think the primary challenge for the democrat party is the same for the republican party, and that is to address these profound economic challenges going on. automation poses the same danger to retail jobs as globalization posed to manufacturing jobs. that is a lot of retail establishments are going out of business because of the tremendous growth of services like amazon. that trend is going to continue. and it will be hugely disruptive. now, i don't think you can stop automation. you can't pass a law saying we shouldn't have automation, but it we need to figure out how to make this economy work for more americans. >> as you ho

plus, the major policy shift in the trump administration you may not of heard about today. sparking so much controversy. the political panel is back nex next. ♪ millions of you are online right now, searching one topic. that will generate over 600 million results. and if you've been diagnosed with cancer, searching for answers like where to treat, can feel even more overwhelming. so start your search with a specialist at cancer treatment centers of america. start with teams of cancer treatment experts under one roof. start where specialists use advanced genomic testing to guide precision cancer treatment... ...that may lead to targeted therapies and more treatment options. start where there's a commitment to analyzing the latest research and conducting clinical trials-to help each patient get the personalized cancer care they deserve. start at one of the cancer treatment centers of america hospitals near you. the evolution of cancer care is here. learn more at cancercenter.com/experts appointments available now. you won't see these folks they have businesses to run. they hav

you were in the bush administration for part of the time that this issue was playing out. and it turns out that we decided to attack iraq and overthrow saddam hussein. he didn't have nuclear weapons. the north koreans arguably have just as oppressive a regime, but we decided not to pursue that course of action with north korea. how do you see the difference? mr. cha: it is a tough question to answer. without recounting the whole history of why the bush administration went into iraq, that was not my area of responsibility. so i am not really capable of commenting on that. but i think in the case of north korea, i think there are two issues. the puzzle is why iraq -- not why iraq instead of north korea, but if in iraq, then why not also in north korea? i think there are two answers. the first is that you have china, right? china sits right on the border with north korea. the last thing the united states or china wants is some sort of confrontation or conflagration on the peninsula that would cause the two to butt heads. -- heads as they did in 1953. i think anytime there is

and of the bush administration if you'll recall after nine eleven pakistan was not ready to support the united states against al-qaeda and there was a very tough telephone call from the deputy secretary of the night states to the then president of pakistan general musharraf where he basically told him you're with us or against us and at that time president musharraf said we'll be with you that was resulted in a temporary change in pakistani policy where they did do a lot on terrorism for the united states but they've never change the fundamental practice of using proxies terrorist proxies such as the taliban in afghanistan and l e t against india those proxy terrorist proxies that pakistan has continued to use throughout the last twenty plus years continue to erode pakistan's place in the world the rest of the world doesn't trust pakistan now because of what they're doing i mention former prime minister nawaz sharif statement the other day where he said the real thing that pakistan needs to do is look at itself self examine what changes pakistan needs to do that to stop using this te

>> the trump administration is anticve. they don't believe in initiatives, countering the narrative. they don't believe in partnership to deal with the problem of violent extremism. theirs is still a top down approach, where government is going to dictate the terms onto communities and use more surveillance, more informants, h heavy-hand heavy-handed law enforcement tactics. the it has to be bottom up, not top down. it's going the communities building resilience, promoting engagement, talking about hot topic issues, finding ways to deal with mental health problems in our communities done for the community by the community. and obviously the trump administration is far away from that. it's interesting that the draigs and a number trump administrati number of civil rights groups are anticve, the trump administration feels it gives too much civil power, where the civil rights group feels it gives way to intrude on community. so this deserves a deeper and broader conversation. i don't see a future for cve. i think we're back to

role after the trump administration's decision to move the embassy to jerusalem.

in does the administration support regime change in iran? support them getting basic rights to the people of iran. eatingort them stopping a state sponsor of terror. we want to see those actions ta ke place. with is happening jerusalem? what thet to ask president has been up to lately, and his schedule for the rest of the week. that is a lot of questions from a lot of different angles. i will try to make sure i covered them all. pakistan can do more to stop terrorism. we want them to do that. actions, you will see more details coming out in the next 24-48 hours. we will keep you updated. schedule, thee president has a number of meetings today. he met with the vice president, the secretary of labor, and a talkingf staff members, about goals as we move into the new year. are excited about having a successful 2018 as we did 2017. the president tweeted dock activists will be falling in love with him and republicans. activists will be falling in love with him and republicans. what protections as the president prepared to provide? the president wan

the country. does this in administration support regime change in iran? >> secretary sanders: we support them giving basic rights to the people of iran and we support them stopping being a state sponsor of terror, and we want to see those actions take place. >> today, nikki haley the u.s. ambassador for the u.n. said it was not tied to the united nations about. but what is happening to the countries that did not vote -- both the haley and president trump made threats against those countries and i also wanted to ask you about what the president's schedule is today, the rest of the week, and what he's been up to lately we know that he had a lunch today, we know he had an intelligence briefing and saw him tweeting. what else is on the president's agenda? >> secretary sanders: that's a lot of questions from a lot of different angles. i'm going to try to make sure i cover them all. first in terms of pakistan, as i said, our goal is that we know they can do more to stop terrorism and we want them to do that. it seems pretty simple in terms of specific actions. i

part of sense, narrative of the george w administration, the george w. ion was, of course, that there would be a comprehensive immigration reform and that securing the border to reduce the flow of immigrants across the border would be the first step which would then allow bipartisan work in the congress to achieve comprehensive immigrati immigration. and the obama administration had its own replay and although not building a new fence, but brought remote technology elements to parts of the division, parts of the border. it was not as comprehensive as was envisioned in the original planning, but nonetheless, a lot of technological assets, visibility assets that allow for more rapid response were put at the border vet and the obama administration engaged in deportation of a lot of people from the united states. >> close to 3 million. for a while, president obama was called the deporter in chief, towards-- in his last two years of the administration, most of the people who were deported were either voluntary, but people caught close to the border within a sh

up until this point the administration was talking about how this was. and wanting to focus on the domestic agenda and the successes this administration has had. so throwing in something that could be, quote, unquote, eye opening, rocket man style at this point, it does make me wonder, has there been some shift? >> it's called the russia investigation. >> so is that what you were referring to, the need for a distraction? is that what you're hinting at? >> no. and i will say this is just my perceptio perception. i have no report to go back this up. but is there something on foreign policy that's going on which means they want to change their methods. there are plenty of distractions going on in the nunes memo. >> i do want to move on to the same speech but different topic. you heard from kaelin collins talking about this speech. the president is going to give a unified speech. kristen, can the president give a unified speech? >> yes, in a vacuum. can he give voice to should we all come together? sure, we can all say we can come together. >> will approximai

we are talking about the trump administration's plan for infrastructure. good morning. guest: good morning, pedro. host: what we know about the plan? guest: we know several things -- the white house wants to unveil it before the state of the union. plans beforeo has the consumer conference in las vegas. also, the $200 billion that are going to be from direct federal spending, we know from the white house infrastructure advisor, they are going to ask for money from existing federal accounts, and when you reach the $200 billion mark, that would incentivize $800 billion in private-sector funds. now, that is a different debate whether or not you can reach that mark over 10 years. also $25 billion will be allocated for rural projects. 3t is very difficult to get a p polling facility to be profitable along rural highways. then you will have a real push on the part of the white house and the administration to streamline environmental for construction projects, these big infrastructure projects. the aim is to take it from 10 years down to two years. critics will point out that i

the administration blasting a judge for blocking. the president sticks to a bottom line demand for a wall after oscillating a lot in that meeting yesterday. >> the judicial order came overnight throwing things into turmoil just after the president's 55-minute public display of competency, so what feat of strength comes today. >> reporter: it is fascinating, john. it certainly adds a level of uncertainty to the tug-of-war over the d.r.e.a.m.ers. it's only temporary and, by the way, the justice department, the trump justice department is standing by its assuretion the order for daca that was put in by president obama was a circumvention of the powers of the united states congress and they say they will continue to litigate over this issue. very interesting also that the executive branch in this case is advocating for the powers of the legislative branch, and that's where we are. we have more of that on a statement from the ruling from white house press second sarah sanders this morning. we find this decision to be outrageous, especially

ask a veteran who has been waiting online for health care because the veterans administration is not fully funded for the health care needs of our veterans. they all think those are just as important. not more, not less, than funding defense, and we will stand firm and strong that both are important, that both are important. and the only argument our colleagues seem to have against us, it increases the deficit, as i said, they lost all claim to that one with the tax bill. now, teamsters, carpenters, and miners have worked their entire lives under the expectation they could retire with a sense of dignity afforded by a modest pension. this is the one our colleagues seem to be just adamantly opposed to. let them go home to their miners, to their teamsters, to their food workers and tell them you don't deserve a pension even though you paid the kind -- the kind of pension you need even though you paid in every month. we can't just shrug our shoulders and do nothing. we ought to fix it. my friend the majority leader thinks defense is important but the other is not. we believe, we democrats

the efforts by the administration would be a safer united states. believe that and i know that the fact that there are individuals here in the united states that are willing to engage in the act here i think that makes the american people safer. >> [inaudible] can you talk about the significance of that arrest? >> it is a very important arrest in the complaint to the case that the former cia officer retained classified information as the case proceeds in the court i would expect more information about the conduct that underlines the charges in the complaint will come out but as of now i came to the division and it's an important case that goes to the illegal classification and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. >> they found approximately three out of four of the individuals on the charges and the studies are foreign-born individuals to enter the unitede united states and the immigration system. my understanding is they included people who had been extradited here in the trial and my question is is that correct and if so, how many reporters w

different than it did under the previous administration. one of the things i have learned since being in this office is that the obama administration weaponize to the shutdown in 2013. what they did not tell you is they did not encourage agencies to use carry forward funds. agencieshey encourage to use transfer of authority. they could have made the shutdown in 2013 much less impactful. .ut they chose to make it worse the only conclusion i can draw is they did so for political purposes. it will look different this time around. -- we can answer questions about specifics on that. mark short is here to give you a brief update on where we stand. we can take a few questions and. thank you for all of your time this morning. last night, the house passed a bipartisan bill with 230 votes. the president stands ready to sign that bill to keep the government functioning and a flow. it appears the senate democrats are in transient forcing a shutdown. i think there is a lot of a parker see in this town. i think there are some ironies -- i think there is a

they are going to destroy the administrative state. we have regulations in we need various regulations. business is often behind the regulations that are there. we are going to remove two to get a new one is mindless. i used to teach regulation. one of the principles i taught law students about regulation is the best regulations are self-reinforcing of virtuous behavior. that's not what they are doing. they cut the number of inspectors for wage and hour violations, stopped posting deaths from job sites. they have reduced all sorts of other areas where public safety and health is affected. and that's what i go into in the book to show you. this is stuff that doesn't make the news because it's going on inside the government. and we tend to cover the white house or the controversies more than the issues and the operations. >> fair criticism. a statement against interest. in reading the book, there was very little that i had 100% grasp on before i saw your reporting on it. that is my pitch for the book. david cay johnston, thank you very m

change under the obama administration, it only intensified. we are with the twice feel it's a prize-winning reporter james risen. he is now the intercept's senior national security correspondent, a best-selling author, and a before that he worked for "the new york times" and he tells the a 15,000 word document. ♪ [music break] amy: as much of the country .xperiences the bomb cyclone this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as we spend the hour with the two lids are prize-winning journalist james risen, who was a longtime reporter for "the new york times" now at the intercept where this wiki is published a 15,000 word piece headlined "the biggest secret: my life as a new york times reporter in the shadow of the war on terror." james risen pursued by both the bush and obama administrations as part of a six-year investigation into his book and articles. his book "state of war." his refusal to name a source with taken to the supreme court. the arm is wound up in jail until the obama administration blinked

thinks he's doing a great job and has been a strong advocate for the administration. and been a great leader when it comes to the trade discussion on steel, aluminum and certainly his involvement in trade across the board with the administration. reporter: the president was very clear back in september when he said that dreamers have nothing to worry about. is that still the case? sarah: i think we've been pretty clear that we want to find a solution on the daca program. and we're going to hope that democrats are willing to work with us to make sure we actually resolve this issue. reporter: there are a lot of dreamers in this country who are living on pins and needles, not knowing what their fate is. what is this white house's message to that population? do you think they should storm capitol hill and protest there? sarah: because that is the place that has held up this discussion. democrats are the one that shut this discussion down by forcing a government shutdown. by being unwilling to fund the government. we lost four days over this process of the conversation that