president is at war with the american people politically. at war with the citizens of this country in a political sense. number two, it says they're desperate. that they can't make their case. what obama and the democrats really want, and we've seen some audio on -- heard some audio on this, is dwoft-run, single payer plan -- is government-run, single payer plan like in great britain and canada. they want you to go for them to ask for a particular drug or procedure. that's what they want. they want to ram this home while they can. sean: one of the things they're considering, the president on a call, mark, to some of these liberal bloggers, he went out there and he said, well, whether we do it or not we'll use the nuclear option and chuck schumer said they would use the relation process or at least attempt to. i don't think they're going to be able to pull it off. where they bypass the need for a filibuster-proof senate vote. >> you know what that means? that means they can't even keep some of their own democrats. they make that move to avoid

and the bill for american fallen troops. now you see some of the recovery acts provision for public safety being distributed through the country. so we're very proud. it's a time to pause and reflect on this very productive congress. as we go out to promote health care reform for all americans that have quality, affordability and accessibility. that will be done in a face cli sound way -- face cli -- fiscally more sound, and reduce the cost of our entitlements to the american people. so we're very, very proud of the work that we have done and we look forward to the commerce committee passing out its health care reform bill this afternoon so we will have all three of our committees reporting out. we'll prepare in august for how we go forward. and my colleagues will spend more time on that subject. but, i want to commend all the leadership. we've acted not only as a team but as a partnership. and our members have the stamina and the courage, as well as the intellect and determination to get the job done for the american people.

came out, people are not -- the american people are smart. they understand that one little issue can turn into something else if this passes. senator grassley, he removed that. he said the senate was going to remove this provision because it made people uncomfortable and the american people are the ones that the president needs to work for. and if the american people don't want that, then they shouldn't have that in the legislation. i think that is the most important thing here, it's what the people want. >> you can add other provisions providing that provisions like that will never take effect. if you want to lower health care costs in a centralized way, they're going to inevitably look at the money spent in the final six months of life. that's the direction we're moving. you can pretend that's not true. sean: this a big week for sarah palin? she drove that debate and won. >> she did. and this is moving so quickly, but she absolutely did win. and in the face of so much scorn -- the "new york times" devoted i don't know how many columns saying

i think the americans have two big problems with the proposal. number one, the idea you will save money from the healthcare system and create $1 trillion new entitlement is laughable to americans. that is problem number one. problem number two is it turns out about 75 to 80% of americans kind of like the healthcare hay get right now. and all they see is a kind of downside risk to totally restructuring the system, pushing more americans into a government program they don't want. >> joe, is there a difference between the public option and the co-op idea? >> some differences i imagine but going in the same direction. if we start co-op in this space it will be another non-profit insurer like blue cross or blue shield. pointless. or it could be government sponsored enterprise like fannie mae and freddie mac where it has a lifeline to taxpayers. gets into all sort of trouble, bailed out and drags out the private sector competition because of government advantages. >> we seem to be coming to a little bit more clear cut debate. between do we get a contin

came out, people are not -- the american people are smart. they understand that one little issue can turn into something else if this passes. senator grassley, he removed that. he said the senate was going to remove this provision because it made people uncomfortable and the american people are the ones that the president needs to work for. and if the american people don't want that, then they shouldn't have that in the legislation. i think that is the most important thing here, it's what the people want. >> you can add other provisions providing that provisions like that will never take effect. if you want to lower health care costs in a centralized way, they're going to inevitably look at the money spent in the final six months of life. that's the direction we're moving. you can pretend that's not true. sean: this a big week for sarah palin? she drove that debate and won. >> she did. and this is moving so quickly, but she absolutely did win. and in the face of so much scorn -- the "new york times" devoted i don't know how many columns saying

it's because of the american people. the more they are looking, the more they are reading, the more he talks about health care, this plan, his plan, the less support it's getting. it's not republican opposition. they've been basically frozen out, except for a couple of subcommittees. >> not totally froze on out. they're able to offer their ideas. and many of the ideas that the president incorporated, including the $268 billion that was part of the recovery act opinion republicans are not giving the president credit for accepting their ideas. instead, they're trashing him all the time. >> john mccain was very clear when he interviewed with john king, saying that the republicans were excluded from the health care debate. he also thinks the president is handling it wrong strategically. let's listen and i'll let you react. >> i think they may have overlearned the lesson of the clinton proposal of '93 where they were totally specific proposals. now there's not enough. i think at this point, the administration, the president ha

that's the american people. i think the american people have a very strong idea that we ought to lower the cost of health insurance for families and business, that we ought to lower the cost of health care, but the american people oppose a government takeover of health care and they know if there's a new government-run plan, tens of millions of americans will lose their health insurance. my bet is, chris, as republicans and democrats fan out across the country this next month, they're going to hear from the american people they want modest health care reform that lowers the cost of insurance and health care, but they don't want a government takeover, and that will lead to bipartisan reforms this fall. >> one last question. nine days ago you headlined a gop picnic, and there's a picture of it, in iowa which, of course, just happens to hold the first presidential contest in 2012. i know you say that you were there just to help out a friend who's a member of congress, but you are not flatly ruling out a run for pre

came out, people are not -- the american people are smart. and that one little issue can turn into something else if this passes. senator grassley, he removed that. he said the senate was going to remove this provision because it made people uncomfortable and the american people are the ones that the president needs to work for. and if the american people don't want that, then they shouldn't have that in the legislation. i think that is the most important thing here, it's what the people want. >> you can add other provisions providing that provisions like that will never take effect. if you want to lower health care costs in a centralized way, they're going to inevitably look at the money spent in the final six months of life. that's the direction we're moving. you can pretend that's not true. sean: this a big week for sarah palin? she drove that debate and won. >> she did. and this is moving so quickly, but she absolutely did win. and in the face of so much scorn -- the "new york times" devoted i don't know how many columns saying sarah palin

called the american people mobsters. congressmen have referred to these people as being like tim mcveigh, nazis, political terrorists. and the president himself wants everyone to shut up. what are they thinking? >> well, they're not only going to shut them up, they're going to cut off debate with 50 votes in the senate and jam it through. look, this only worked when nixon did it, because the demonstrators were 18-year-olds with hair down to their ankles. sean: right. >> everybody said they're burning draft cards, they're un-american, and that worked. here they're senior citizens. they're people in wheelchairs. now, maybe 40 years ago they demonstrated, but their hair is cut now. it's becoming very clear that opposition comes from the elderly. and the reason the elderly are this upset is because the congress is about to jam through literally, with 50 votes, biden breaking the tie, if necessary, with 50 votes, a $500 billion cut in medicare. now, i worked for, pardon the expression, bill clinton, and you and i were on oppos

the americans said this guy knows what he's doing. they made him a colonel of the engineersñ and they paid hi a reward. and ben franklin went off8÷ to paris and suddenly there was a battle for who would kosciuszko work for next. well, he got the attention of general horacio gates who was Ñ( commander for the northern army for the continental army and general gates was in charge of new york and he knew that the british would be coming down from canada and attacking from three sides. so he sent kosciuszko up here to a place and said figure out if this fort is secure and if it's someplace that we can make our stand. so kosciuszko got up to the fort and said you have this fantastic fort here but you have this hill, and if the british come down and put/ canons on that hill, they can shoot into the fort. well, the americans didn't listen to him because they said how are we going to get canons up this steep hill. and so they didn't do it. well, the british came down. the general's army came down and sure enough general phillips who was with

president is at war with the american people politically. at war with the citizens of this country in a political sense. number two, it says they're desperate. that they can't make their case. what obama and the democrats really want, and we've seen some audio on -- heard some audio on this, is dwoft-run, single payer plan -- is government-run, single payer plan like in great britain and canada. they want you to go for them to ask for a particular drug or procedure. that's what they want. they want to ram this home while they can. sean: one of the things they're considering, the president on a call, mark, to some of these liberal bloggers, he went out there and he said, well, whether we do it or not we'll use the nuclear option and chuck schumer said they would use the relation process or at least attempt to. i don't think they're going to be able to pull it off. where they bypass the need for a filibuster-proof senate vote. >> you know what that means? that means they can't even keep some of their own democrats. they make that move to avoid

the american people turn out and 79% of the country believes we ought to produce american energy. one fact as to the kind of debate you could have on your campuses. some of you have heard about the concept called peek energy. liberals say we are about to run out of fossil fuel and they don't count coal because then it it wouldn't be true. so they only count oil and natural gas. well, now it turns out we have new technology in natural gas, we can drill down 8000 feet and drill out horizontally in every direction. the result is we're discovering gas in shale and we have enormous quantities of gas, from western new york to western pennsylvania, through eastern ohio, through west virginia and kentucky, all the way down across texas. there is this enormous deposit of natural gas, none of which we knew about five years ago because it wasn't economically developable because we didn't have the right technology. now how much natural gas? well, in the last five years we've discovered over 100-year supply. so now if you go back to your campus and start a debate about energy policy, here is yo

the american original. for over two decades, mississippi.org to see what we can do for you. >>> issue one, nick's obama care. >> socialists and you will not abandon the party. [ inaudible ] >> you have awakened sleeping giant. >> the voice of the people, the message, no on obama care. the president's effort to reform the healthcare insurance system, an effort that includes a government funded insurance agency is lagging. 49% of americans now disapprove of obama's health insurance vision. 43% approve. most worrisome is the growing detect from his block. 35%, over one out of three of independents are now more sympathetic to the town hall protesters. 16% less so. >> question, how do you explain the ranker, the town hall meetings are exhibiting, pat? >> there's real anger at the belief in middle america that they are experiencing the blunt of this recession. the politicians had that huge stimulous pigout. that is one thing. secondly, healthcare, they believe this reform is going to take away benefits they have.

when we come back, we will have the great american panel. the great american panel. ere's one more... ziploc evolve. and made with wind energy. better for the environment. still ziploc fresh. new ziploc evolve. s.c. johnson. a family company. real food at the right price! this is the primo stuff. one appetizer and two premium entrees. just twenty bucks-every day. genuine food. generous portions. genius price. 2 for $20! only at applebee's. sean: we are joined by caroline feldman, the chairmen of the club for growth, chrus chocola, and joe. barney frank was talking to people and he was arrogant. people are asking great questions. >> we were promised change that we can believe in. so far, if we are going and we have these changes, we don't even have a clue as to what they are, how can we believe in it? how can we trust the government that is shoving things through without letting us have a reasonable discussion? >> twho ever told you to trust the government? use your own individual initiative. sean: the government bank erupted medicare, medicaid, social security, and up

the politicians don't hire the american people. and to go back home and basically insult people who have legitimate questions, who have concerns -- you know, all this is a wonderful moment. it's clear now that the liberals didn't get the bill in the house for the health care. they didn't get the bill in the senate. this is a moment to take a deep breath, go home for five weeks and listen to the american people. instead, because what they're hearing is so negative, they're almost panic-stricken. i don't know what your reaction was to speaker pelosi, but i thought there was an edge there that was strange. >> but if you look at the poll numbers -- i mean, for the democrats in general and congressmen and senators in general, it is about as low as i've ever seen it in my lifetime. it's almost like they're tone-deaf. i don't believe that they believe that the american people disagree with them. >> part of what's happened is we've gone from a world that was in many ways defined by "the new york times" to a world that's now defined by fox n

that was the end of the american automobile industry. because, you no when it comes to dull practical ugly things, that bore and annoy me, japanese things cost less, you know, and the cup holders are more conveniently located. you know? now i, myself, i got something old school under a tarp on my basement garage but i bet that after my will has been probated some child of mine will yank the dust cover and use the proceeds of the ebay sale, you know, to buy a mountain bike. four things greater than all things are and i'm pretty sure bicycles aren't one of them. you know? those of us who have had the god fortune to meet with strength and beauty and majestic force in which we were willing to trust our lives, and a day comes, that strength and beauty fails, and a man does what a man has to do, and i'm going to go downstairs and put a bullet in a v8. anyway, thank you very much for that, that is everything i know about cars. [applause] but sh shg, -- >> but if anybody has any question i'll make up some other stuff and i have bad news on the qu

it was the american people who spoke up. we do need, we need a little change on both sides, i think. >> this is what's going on in the country, the country has had it -- a friend of mine describes it democrats and republicans as the party of corrupts and the party of stupid. when i see jim, you can figure out where everyone fits. what's happened, people's confidence in congress has nosedived. it is so low. let me tell you, internal numbers on other questions, this thing is deteriorating. independents, in 2006 and 2008, acted like democrats. they're now seven or eight points different than republicans. they have swung so hard and so strong and that's why the white house worried. but i'll tell how yao what politically is the case, i think they've decided they want to push this thing about the mob, is because they want to basically get the issue off the specifics. sean: i think what we need to be focused on is basically the democrats have to listen to the people. they've got to stop talking oven their cell phones. sean: sean: bu

the majority of americans want it. democrats have huge majorities in the congress. americans don't trust the republicans. but once again, once again, it's our friends the democrats that are strew skroouing up their own story here. here's senator ken conrad on the wrong channel. >> there are many more who are open to the cooperative option as being the way to bridge the gap between those who are passionately in favor of public option and those who are passionately opposed. there are not the votes in the united states senate for public option. that's why i was given this assignment to try to come up with an alternative. >> but wait a minute, you're a friend of mine, you're a reasonable guy and good guy. all these town hall meetings are taking place. how do we know we don't have conservative democrats changing their minds when we come back to washington? what is he doing going to the belly of the beast and saying the democrats don't have the votes. we don't know that yet. he's saying, well, the senate is not listening to the people of the united states. i know president

how is the white house defending itself? sean: americans around the country have been receiving unexpected e mails from the president's political operatives and it urges support for the president's health care plan, but how did the white house get a hold of these e mail addresses? major garrett put the question to robert gibbs and here's what he had to say. >> speaking of the e mail, how does the list on who would receive it determined? >> i believe it's from people who signed up to receive e mail updates from the white house. >> the reason i have asked, i have received e mails from people who did not seek communication tr the white house and not registered or on a website -- let me finish my question. >> would have never signed up for anything related to this white house, senator obama as a candidate, senator obama as anything and received e mails from david axelrod. >> i would be interested to see how got it from and whether or not they're on the list. >> i would like to know how they got an e mail from the white house when they never ask

the american people need to have their fears tackle head on. juliet: a pleasure to have you on fox news. you just said the rhetoric has gotten away from president obama. we just spoke with bill mcgurn, wherein he is accusing some of these people as those fighting this status quo. the rhetoric is coming from him, don't you think? >> i think in part -- there are a lot of lies and rumors out there, and it is the role of the president to tackle the spirit burns of who started it, it is up to them to really speak to the american people. juliet: his supporters are saying that the senators are hired guns. but this is politics, this is the dirty little secret of politics. >> isn't this what you want? in vigorous debate about the details? i thought that is what democracy is? juliet: i think most americans would prefer not to have hired guns in the audience. >> been described -- it depends on how you describe them. these are citizens who are voters and they have a financial interest in them. don't we all have an interest in this? everybody has a stake in

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we had to protect the american people. w you see some of the recovery act provisions for public safety being distributed through the country. we are very proud. it is time to pause and reflect on this very productive congress. to do so as we go out to promote health care reform for all americans and have quality, affordability, and accessibility. that will be done in a fiscally sound way. it will save the american people money, make our businesses more competitive, and an infusion of energy into our economy while reducing the cost of our entitlement to the american people. we are very proud of the work that we have done. we look forward to the energy and comments -- commerce committee passed in that. we will prepare in august for how we go forward. my colleagues will spend more time on that subject. i want to commend all the leadership we have. our members have the stamina and courage and intellect and determination to get the job done for the american people, because it all comes down to them. mr. hoyer. >> thank you very

do you think they're purposely trying to distract the american people away from these low poll numbers and the fact that their predictions have been so off and the fact that the mesh peel -- american people are speaking out so loudly at these town halls? >> not necessarily. i think their judgment is so bad and they're so hard left that they're making mistakes on multiple fronts at once. as bad as this decision is, the decision by eric holder, we should be prosecuting terrorists. they are cold blood killers. we should not be prosecuting individuals who are working day in and day out to protect us. to have the c.i.a. see this taken away from them i think is outrageous. the attorney general should be reminded we are still a nation alt war and c.i.a. shouldn't stand for "can't interrogate anyone." sean: at page 85, the government in its own report actually admits that the program was more successful, every c.i.a. director said they got more intense, more information, saved more lives than all our intelligence communities combined. i do believe there's a political factor here. as the presid

this is the question looking forward. what americansow are not important enough for bill clinton to secure their release? sean: i like you -- i am like you and i am happy for the families. we are glad they are home. there are significant questions, not the least of which -- do you think there is any way bill clinton would have been sent on this trip had it not been prearranged, in other words, all he had to do was show up? >> absolutely. it would of been foolhardy to deploy and without the release of the two hostages -- it would have been foolhardy to deploy him without the release of the two hostages. of course, the former president was briefed before he left. that is not something to be embarrassed about. it would be embarrassing if the administration had not done that. i do not understand what they're concerned about making public now that the women are released. sean: let me ask you this. we have talked about the agreed framework of 1994. this was a bad deal for the united states and bill clinton was president. it made me wonder if

how did he change the american? ? >> although he came from an affluent family and popular family, it is a commitment is to the people most in need. he worked for those who were deprived in the american society. not only did he work for them, but he was very effective in his legislative work. he was dedicated when the senate was in session or out of session. everyone to ted kennedy was fighting for the poor and deprived. it wa>> it is a day to remembers achievements, but ask the question if he would have been president is not for personal flaws? >> i do not think thathis is a time to concentrate on that. i never mentioned it in the campaign. i think it was a detrimental factor. had he not have that is embarrassing experience in his young life, he would have maybe been most successful on the national scene. he more than made up for that. i think he suffered from the consequences of it. he bore it like a man. he survived in the minds and hearts of the american people. >> former president jimmy carter. the israeli prime mi

how does the average american separate the rhetoric from acal news? >> guest: that is a good question. i think there are three patterns. first of all, find it trust in sources. i look for people that i think are interesting and are reliable and i think have insights overtime and that are worth looking at. for exple, i read all of charles call hammer's articles because he is very smart. i read michael barone of because i think he has something truly insightful every time he writes. first look for trusted sources that fit your world view and that fit over time you can check and make sure these are people you rely on. second, assume all is that the first report is wrong. that is actually a good rule out military behavior and a good rule in life and general. when you see the first headline let's wait and see with the second and third headline look like and whether lot the store has changed dramatically and recognize that is the nature of thmode world. third, on a really big tngs is repetition that matters. i think our leadership has to get back that if yo

the issue. they are siding with us. americans are about common sense and they get when their freedoms are its stake and they stand up and fight when -- for those freedoms and your in the vanguard. i am encouraged by the poll numbers. i want to take a moment and tell you about americans for prosperity and americans for prosperity foundation. it started four and a half years ago. it was an idea that asked a question. we know that whenever there is a budget fight or tax battle, whether in washington or state capital, we know there are going to be people on the big government side. you always see that. maybe that is the public employee union standing up and saying we need the money for this government service. maybe it is for the radical environmentalists saying we need that money to save the environment and so -- safe polar bears and everything else they are for. they have their groups out there standing up. they are organized usually around getting something from government as garver norquist pointed out. he is here tonight. he poi

the amazon basin. there are others as well. american history is filled with these attempts to deal with, in some ways, the problem of expansion by trying to establish these utopian communities. that is one particular example of it. as far as the gender division of labor, it was meant in terms of the -- carved out the jungle. ford sent mostly men down in terms of administrators, he also sent families down, and one of the things that was interesting about it, the men ford sent down, whether they hated it or loved it, had something to do, they bridge charged with creating this community out of the jungle. it occupied their time. a lot of the wives, the women who went down, the wives of engineers, sawmill operators, lumberjacks and administrators, all of a sudden found themselves catapulted to a new level of social status, working class, they didn't in july -- it didn't enjoy much domestic help, but suddenly they were in the amazon and had new brazilian work, cleaners and nannies attending their needs, and one of the things that comes out i

was the war popular before the americans got into it? >> the war was popular with some people but one of the things most people forget about world war i was it is very divisive, both entering the war and how to fight the war after it starts. a lot of that decision has been forgotten since then. >> where did your book, uncle sam wants you, come from? >> it started with a group of people, on a footnote of another book i found reference to called slacker rage. slacker was the slaying term in world war i for draft dodgers. slacker raids were carried out by a group of volunteers, mostly middle-aged men overdraft age who would go around in cities and small towns and try to tracked down the draft dodgers in their community. i thought this is just unusual. people volunteering to and force the draft, literally 200,000 people were part of this group. i started by researching them and it became a bigger story about america and the federal government. >> what was the effect on the federal government of world war i? >> it was enormously transform a li

so the americans would have a comparison. ey could compare. >> the republicans have a goal that every american will have a health insurance plan they can afford and own and keep. bill: a goal and a plan are two different things. >> we have got a plan. we have introduced. one of them is mine. the health carefree dom act. it does a couple of things, bill that are common sense. the democrats talk about the need for competition. but they block interstate competition of health insurance companies. my bill does that. it also gives fair tax treatment to people who don't get health insurance at work. we should give every family in america who get insurance with their employer $5,000 a year and that is an equivalent benefit of what people. bill: that's a tax break not a cash payment. $5,000 off the top. >> no. this is a health care voucher whether the people are employed or whether they are paying taxes or whether they're paying a lot of taxes. this is a voucher. >> that will a lot of money as well. tonight is not a time to debate. >>

that's the big concern. as americans we all should be concerned about that. >> but the bigger issue is how will this affect president obama's working class public safety type folks. you saw in the interview you did this week, you got a surprise answer. >> so here you go. this is -- warren, people are saying about the falsifying of the police report, that's an accusation. we're not sure, you know, if that is a falsification or if that is what he remembered. so, you know. >> he wrote it down, don. that's factual. >> still to be determined. let's move on and say this. i think martha brings up a very good point when she talks about the president because a lot of people are saying they're hoping that this is not just a photo-op, and it appears that the two men involved in this don't want it to be a photo-op and are working towards that end. where does the white house go from here? they sort of put themselves in the middle of this mess. >> they want to end it here. i think the president will not comment on local police matters

most of the americans were on the other side. this is a place called bellevue signals, the hill where during the war 200,000 germans and french had been killed. the men from the 369th were down here. they had to work this way and take the town, and the fieldson and the woods and there was a rail station, and they could cut the german resupply line. arthur little's battalion took the town and they were joined by the second and third battalions, what was left of them. his task then was to take the field and the woods north of town which was full of machine guns. he asked for artillery support and he got six shells that fell in the field. the first battalion was down to 300 men, the second down to 100 men, and the third was down to 137 men. so they lost about three-quarters of the company. the german machine guns were there everybody was calling it custer's last stand. at the last minute they were relieved and finished the war on the french-german border. the first american troops to reach the line. that had been everybody's goal. s

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another day, and another democrat is held accountable by you, the american people. today, that democrat was senator arlen specter and he proved just as incapable of handling the frustrations of ordinary americans as all the democrats who came before him. the event reached the tipping point when a man rose to confront the senator. look at how specter reacted. >> you want to be -- you want to be led -- you want to be led out of here? you are welcome to go. now wait a minute, now wait a minute, now wait a minute. wait, wait a minute: wait a minute, wait a minute. wait a minute. wait a minute. you want to leave? leave. sean: he wasn't going to allow the senator to shout him down. here's what happened next. >> well, i got news for you, you and your cronies in the government do this kind of stuff all the time. well,. [ applause ] i'm not a lobbyist, all kind of money to stuff in your pocket so you can cheat the citizens of this country so i will leave and you can do whatever the hell you please to do. sean: now, meanwhile, president obama, he spent the day in dream land. h

because the american families believed that the sentence would be served in scotland.ut how does he feel those families failed? when he acknowledged that their views that the sentence would be completed in scotland, ment that megrahi could not be released to a libyan prison. and yet in the next breath he sent megrahi home to freedom, unlicensed, his sentence not committed. the cabinet secretary has mishandled this whole affair from start to finish. from the scenes and pain and angerat -- anger at home and abroad. is there nothing that mr. macaskill regrets about this decision and how it's reached? >> cabinet secretary. >> i wrote that it was my decision and mine alone. and that's what i said full out, and i said that mr. megrahi should not of compassion or the sensitivity when he was shown compassion by us. but i retalate that i stand by the values we have. i did meet with mr. megrahi, and i did not put pressure on him to drop the appeal. it was his decision alone, that was clear to him and his agents and throughout. the decision i made was on two criteria, first of al

>> the answer is, americans are going to be spending less. it looks like about $300 this year, and on average, that's down from previous years. the expectation is that they're just not going to spend as much, especially on conspicuous kinds of goods, right? nothing kind of fancy, right? no luxury kind of items. >> it's interesting, because we have this debate almost every day here on this program. you know, where exactly does the consumer stabbed nd in all of t and there have been a lot of bulls out there that say that things are getting better, and the american consumer has a psyche that wants to be moving forward. that is, in fact -- we just had a guest on who was saying the american consumer is exuberant, and said they bought lots of underwear in the first quarter, but they're going to buy lots of fancy tvs in the second quarter. so it was necessities and then luxuries. and you're saying when you go out there and talk to these consumer individually, they're telling you the exact opposite. >> exact opposite. we focused on main street america

the things they want real americans to say at these town hall events. here's your script, real people! written for you by the health insurance industry. which isn't trying to manufacture the appearance of grassroots opposition at all. if you don't feel like taking your talking points directly in the health insurance industry, how about a middleman? like, say, the organization freedom works. which sounds really grass roots. they have now published their own august recess action kit. your handy dandy guide for disrupting town hall meetings at a location near you. the kit actually begins with, dear friend of freedom, and it provides suggested questions that you might ask your local congressman. there's also very helpful google maps of upcoming town hall events. this kit brought to you by the head of freedom march, of course, former republican house majority leader dick armey, in addition to fronting that group, dick armey is a senior policy adviser at a law firm called dla piper, that just happens to have received $830,000 this year so far from a giant phar

america we know and the problem is not just with insurance, in fact a lot of americans are happy with it. we need to do a lot of things to make it work better but a government takeover is going to work just like the cash for clunkers program, chris. >> chris: we're going to get to that as well. because some people think that has worked well. congressman rangel, please respond to that. about the high tax rate, the top tax rate, in your plan as well as the fact that according to independent studies, 2/3 of small business profits would be hit by the surtax. >> well, our statistics, 96% of small businesses would not be hurt by this tax, it is less than 1% of the wealthiest people in the united states that would be taxed at a 1% tax, and it is just -- there is no question that the way that they are talking about paying for it, that they don't take into consideration the cap that we are going to have on premiums, they don't take into consideration a number of people that have no insurance now that can walk into any hospital, any doctors office, and be fully insured, and they

we've asked you, our viewers, to share with us at our website your vision of the american dream. >> thecollective dream americans share is abraham lincoln's and martin luther king's vision of a society where an individual american, regardless of wealth or ethnicity, is only limited in his or her best ambitions by the measure of that person's work ethic and personal talents. -average airline pilot >> growing up in the middle of the civil rights changes i dreamed of an america where our differences would be something to embrace rather than fear. now in the later years of my life, i look around and feel sad. yes, we have made some changes, but to me they have been tempered by our continued willingness to judge and build walls rather than embrace. -harvana mendenhall >> when i think of the american dream i think of sharing my house and good luck with other people. the american dream really isn't a mcmansion in a soulless suburban street, it is having communion with your friends, neighbors and family. -betsy gleckler >> i dream of a nation in which disagreement takes the form of rational dis

look, the american people do believe that the healthcare system has to be fixed. they do have problems with health care. with insurance companies with pharmaceutical companies. they don't want to destroy american health care to fix the things that need to be fixed. laura: now, frank, we have a couple of other ads that we are ready to play. i want to ask you before we get to that the ted kennedy funeral mass is going to be this weekend weekend. everyone remembering ted kennedy his life and accomplishments. you think the democrats trying to wrap the bill up in the memory of ted kennedy is going to help and persuade blue dog democrats in alabama or missouri to vote for a bill that their people seem not to like? >> it's a good point. what's happening now is that the battle is no longer on the left or on the right. it's in the dead center. and the people in the center who had supported barack obama in the election by about 55 to 40 are now turning against health care plan faster than anyone else. and that's because it's become an ideological debate for them. they are no