our new business tax will support the small businesses in the city and we'll do more along with our assessors office we've got loans and grant we're matching them up with our 12krik9d captains and mrovs to make sure the corridors are safe and we've got neighborhood grants that are visiting in the programs that are working hard to get out there. it's no longer in any estimation about money known e money it around the city there really is harnessing that in ways to help people succeed and get the jobs. i'm going to thank the small businesses and large ones you're helping us with jobs helping me so much we can go out and tell the folks how about a paying summer job 7 thousands of them we did that saturday to help small businesses and we're going to have a big meeting with all the businesses and they'll be raising their hands over a question who helped you get our first job and all you have so to do is send the lovely thirty seconds someone helped you, you to get our jobs for the recreational managers and institutions. as we relive that i hope to create another generation of kids that a

>> 'cause the recipes belong to the business, right? e's a shareholder, so the only thing we can do is leave and start all over again. >> there's been a lot of work that went into getting things up to this level, and the research and other things that we've done to make these recipes, to have to-- >> i think that's our last option. >> i mean, that would be the last thing i'd want to do. >> there may be something. article three is the capitalization of the company. what it allows for is, it allows for additional capital to come in and for a shareholder to be diluted if they're not able to put in money at the same rate as the other shareholders. if he's not able to put money in at the same rate as you are, then his share gets diluted. does that make sense to you guys? >> mm-hmm. >> so he's not gonna have us backed into a corner. >> no, he will not. we'll be able to keep the name. we'll be able to keep the recipes. he'll have a small percentage of equity... but it's better than us having to change everything. >> that's the lesser of the evi

dedicated to the low margin business, the wine walk-in retail business. know that if i can add tables and chairs, my margins will go up immediately. but as an owner, you have to be there to connect the dots. the problem that exists today here, there's no leader, and the owners are absent. and because of that, the business loses money, and because of that, the business is upside down. so what do you do? >> this is why we called you. >> when's the last time you guys had a staff meeting? >> we don't have them. >> i been here three years. there's been one. >> no staff meetings. how do you know what's going on? >> you don't. when the [bleep] hits the fan, that's when we learn about it. >> this--it's like--this is like the definition of insanity. how many total employees here? >> 17 employees. >> if the business does go out, that's 17 people that are on the street, and you guys lose-- >> a lot of money. >> i think bill, he doesn't even sleep at night. >> who's bill? >> bill gary's my partner. he's the one who handles all the financials and does all the book work

that the business! >> no, i'm done arguing with you. >> he spent so much money building the most opulent dealership i have ever seen that now he can't afford to buy cars or pay bills. if i can't stop the wasteful spending... what'd you spend on these walls? >> $100,000. >> wow. and sell some cars... >> i won't sell it. that car's worth 30 all day. >> athans motors will be out of business. my name is marcus lemonis. i fix failing businesses. this month you lost $150,000. i make tough decisions... you're not gonna come behind every single person and change the deal. >> i didn't agree to this [bleep]. >> and i back them up with my own cash. if you're not gonna put your pride away, well, then i'm not gonna do the deal. it's not always pretty. >> are you okay? >> end it. >> but this is business. you gotta trust the process. i do it to save jobs, and i do it to make money. >> that's all you. >> yeah, buddy. this the profit. [hip-hop music] ♪ 10 miles outside of my hometown of chicago, located in morton grove,

i run the everyday business. ve designed pretty much everything--science kits, skulls, race cars, race sets. i wear many hats. >> and so when did the company start? >> 1987. my dad, he's the majority owner, was looking for a business to purchase. that was when it was all fossil replicas, so we hadn't gotten into the toy part of it yet. >> all of this stuff. >> both: yes. >> that's where skullduggery comes from. we make saber-toothed tiger skulls, humans, hominids, primates--museum-quality replicas. >> i was wondering where the name came from... >> both: yes. >> 'cause it's not so toy-friendly. >> no. >> and so the skull line that you were telling me the business started with, what percentage of the business is skull business? >> less than 10%. >> and so why are you guys still in it? >> we like to keep our guys busy in the slow season. >> i would love to see all the toys. is there a way i can see them? >> yeah, let me take you into the office. >> okay. >> i'll give you a quick breakdown and then we'll give you a to

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connecting small business week to have them thrive aim leslie the co-chair of small business week along with the small business week commission steve adams and together we've been involved for since its inception and it's really about being for impressive and more resources full to and we're going looking forward to today and this is special, in fact, the top ranked part of small business week a day you'll get great information and interaction and to join me to kickoff the conventional is the executive director for the city and county of san francisco regina. (clapping.) >> thank you leslie this year's theme to small businesses they're the vitality no our corridors and neighborhood and shape our community. the small business convention has became the most popular of offering during the week and this year we're featuring free educational and inspirational workshops success panels and a procurement panel in expo. the last session ends up at 430 are a reception overland it's hosted by a hardworking committee including our honorary mayor ed lee. mark convincing the district many of the for

there's $250,000 for 75% of the business. ork to do. >> mm-hmm. >> actually, all three of us do. it's hard to run two businesses at once, so we're gonna need to divide and conquer. both of you need to keep a laser focus on your specific areas. michael, i want you working exclusively on the gym, and tina exclusively on the food line. it's the only way we're gonna be successful. let's get to work. >> let's do it. >> all right? >> thank you, marcus. thank you very much. [exciting music] ♪ >> morning, guys. i wanted to bring everybody together to kind of give you guys an update on what happened yesterday. i made a deal with michael, and the deal is i agreed to put up $250,000. michael and i will be partners. i'll own 75%. michael will own 25%, and i will be completely in charge. i make all of the decisions. the $250,000 will go towards building a new, state-of-the-art lifestyle facility that will give us what i believe is going to be a one-stop shop environment. we're gonna find a new, larger facility that can accommodate not only

director of the office of small business and i am here to let you know that the small business commission thanks hillary for your great presentation to the commission. but does recommend disapproval, again, primarily around the expenditures the same as in 2011, and for small businesses, the accrual form of managing the healthy san francisco is important component in regards to cash flow management. and as jim lazarus said the commission does not see that the way that the businesses have been utilizing the hras as a loophole but as a means of really trying to deal with complying with the high cost of healthcare that the insurance companies they are not previously up until 2014, with the aca were not charged for businesses. and also, i think, you know, the commission had representation on the universal healthcare council and the business community was there and we were all in agreement with the goals and really want to work on trying to find a solution. to really work to the most effective means of finding a solution to really get to i think, the target population that you are trying to add

>> it depends on the business. ave emerged to really occupy different places on the social web. just like there was not just one internet company that won out, there were several. the same thing with these few networks. >> how do they decide where to spend their money when it comes to marketing dollars? where would they get the most bang for their buck when it comes to advertising? >> i think we're seeing a lot of businesses, both small and large, fortune 500 organizations, continue the shift in spending from off-line to online. with an online they are still doing a lot with google. they are starting to experiment more and more and seeing great results on social media. f-8 conference last week, facebook's investment in the mobile ad network underscores the power of social combined with mobile. >> how do you view facebook's mobile ad offering as different from twitter? a different audience and it is a different interaction mechanism. ath business needs to look where their target customer spends time. it might be mult

we're in the business of up. delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. >> let's start moving the tables down. and then if we can move this over-- >> there's a number of key things that we need to do to improve the process, which ultimately improves profitability. the first thing we need to do is shrink the floor space. i can save at least $5,000 a month, $60,000 a year. >> well, put it this way. >> put it that way? >> yeah, it can't go that way. go down more. >> we also need to reconfigure all the equipment, so we can maximize production. >> but now it's going to flow. it's gonna flow from that side into here, and around into the packaging area that'll be over here, and then out the door. at least 25 to 30% more efficient. >> more production. >> definitely more production. >> okay, guys. i wanted to show you guys a few things. while we're cutting costs, recovering money,

and the businesses have to do their part and i think that two of the three have already done that but businesses needs to step up and really pay their part and some are and all businesses are not avoiding. but, the ones that are need to pay up, and so that the whole system becomes stronger for all of us. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> amber bower and the political director of the san francisco labor council and i am here on behalf of one of the working families that is struggling to stay here in san francisco and i am lucky that i work for a great union and that i have healthcare and my husband, actually has an hra, and i just, i really take exception that this is not a loophole, that the restaurants are using to avoid the obligation to provide the healthcare and most do provide healthcare and those that don't, you know i have talked with a lot of these workers and they are afraid to be here because they think that they are going to get fired and that is not an entirement where they feel they are being told, you know we want to give you healthcare but we can't afford it and so we a

business consultant. you can find him online at barry multz.com. also the brand new book "how to get unstuck, 25 ways to get your business growing again." and alexis is a business developer. thank you for being here. good to see both of you. let's get to the first question. it is about growing out of your home office. >> i'm wondering what the best way is to go about going from a home-based business to getting one's own offices locally. >> so, alexis, when you started guilt it was tiny, two of you, or a couple of you, few of you, right? how do you know when it's time to move from just sort of business at home to the real deal? >> well, in our case my apartment was way too small to host all of our employees. we borrowed space at the beginning. and at a certain point if you can afford it, you have the resources, you need to start carving out your own space to build the culture and the sense of team around the business. and there's so many resources that are out there now which is the good news. at least here in new york the new york economic development core,

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did that mean the mid sized business should get the neighborhood permission. it should be noted that out right opposition is not a shared across the board and the person said in the effect it exceeds her threshold for the - this is the next point raising the threshold from 12 to 20 is a better plan. we miss the point when there are midsize spin-offs their virtually i'll close by saying >> sir, your time is up. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, commissioners deedee workingman in the chamber of commerce the dhm represents over 15 businesses large and small local and national we want to acknowledge and thank the planning department and planning staff for putting this in place we appreciate the good intentions for the planning codes relating to all retail that's derived from outreach. the chamber of commerce sxheenz the working groups made up of formula and non-formula we've discussions the policies coming out of the board of supervisors and the planning department we've met with ted egging connecticut on and looking at this an

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the small businesses vary from a long time starnlts that have worked hard and the corridor is the largest latino oakland businesses in the city and a muscled of arts and organizations there. recognizing those culture assets are a not only part of the latino history but recognizing the economy is only as strong as the businesses the mayors initiatives celebs the diversities that's important to the corridor. with those goals in mind we've developed programs to reduce the vublts and taylor services. beyond the business assistance programs we have extended work and given grants to lead a input process that will develop a goal and decision for the district it should help with the coordination and in addition the historic fund reward the agricultural heritage to develop a heritage statement. which will chronicle the history of the community by examining and identifying places and events that are significant including the landmarks around 24th street. it's a thriving difference district we will continue to support of the entrepreneurs to stay in the neighborhood and celebrate the the heritage. t

adding another competitor in the neighborhood i'll be closing my business. i urge you not to approve that condition use >> thank you. >> my name is michael i'm the executive director of alliance for better district 6 and also have other titles i'm a founding mesh of the united merchant residents of polk i'm also i've been familiar with the polk street corridor for 3 seven years and you i'm also a member a paying member for over 10 years of the polk neighborhoods and involved in other words, i know the neighborhood very well wore many years. you know, one of the letters points out you i reached out to the owner and he at one point didn't attend the lower polk neighbors meeting and he did follow-up with me and tried to come to one of our meetings that's the white piece of paper i passed out he come to the one neighborhood groups but there are other groups that want to know about the land use issues in the neighborhood. our land use chair has written a letter and not agree with this going forward night not necessary again, i have to emphasize that's not necessar

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for now i'm having a really good time running the business. wn the road we might look at strategic partnership, we might look at an i.p.o. but for today i'm building a really nice business. and having fun doing it. >> and you can get it all at places like costco, seven-11. >> whole foods. >> i can see everybody's thirsty now. coming up next, the company that is putting a new spin on icy drinks. see the connection? we're going to find out how calvin natural slush is expanding beyond its popular food truck. it's coming to a store near you. that's next. >> now for our small to big segment. what do you do when your market is flooded with competition? mexicute you grow bigger than your competition. >> it's a fusion of southern american barbeque and mexican food. and we were the second food truck to launch in manhattan. the early days were tough. i used to get up at 5:00 a.m. used to fit in my car every morning for about a year for about five hours, saving a spot for the food truck. it was definitely a hustle early on. the food truck moved around eve

it is the people's business internally. the people delivering the service. be managed appropriately. it is a people's business in terms of working with clients. we have seen vodafone moving out. gs k. you could argue that martin sorrell is going to be disappointed. >> he almost said as much. he was suggesting that he felt that his business is benefiting from this limbo state of these two businesses. as they try to nail down the deal. he is saying, perhaps that there was, this appointment that they would not be in the limbo state forever. this was about getting ready for the next wave of the advertising market, if you like, and google being a big player, facebook. other entrants who might not have been considered competition for advertisers. how is this going to shape up? how are the older companies and advertising going to fend off that newer competition? >> i think it is a real tipping point. i think the 20th century model of constant consolidation in the industry we are in is difficult to see continuing, i believe. whilst there is a need to have ,hat level

the business model is much superior to the first way.n 2007 this was a need to be -- b to b company which had some appeal. there was more hype driven in the hong kong market by retailers. it did very well on day one. it tripled on the first day, but it began a very long rapid slide down. the business behind it wasn't that interesting. what the charisma of jack whipped up expectations. now we have jack trying to take a backseat, which is hard for him. >> how does he fit in with the other chinese tech titans like robyn lee of baidu? i can't imagine robyn lee singing in front of his entire staff. >> robin would describe himself as a geek. jack is not a techie unlike robin or other pioneers. he did not study overseas. he had the international outreach connections he cause of his english language skills, but he didn't actually study overseas. he didn't study the prestigious chinese organizations either. he didn't have pedigree in terms of tech -- >> i believe he failed the initial entrance exam. i recently interviewed robin lee of baidu and a

i believe it be beneficial for the new biz businesses that will come on board. please approve the kitchen. thank you >> hi i'm karen slater i'm a member of the artists and a a long time artist at the shipyard. i'm here to support the approval the kitchen building and to talk about a little bit how we see it fitting into our long term vision i'm a long term advocate of this. we talked about the intersection of those two institution and building that on in the future this will be a very good thing. you know the arts center will note food service and we'll work out a training program we see it as a positive for the development of the arts at the shipyard all around. we would like to see the arts expand beyond the center and that's in the future with more arts related building out in particle c. it's part of a boarder vision of preserving all the arts for san francisco. we think of it as a potential arts preserve concept we have nature preserves by building this for the elliptic cookery is one step in the direction (calling names) >> good afternoon madam chair and co

and now, it goes to the business sector and on the business sector, as we can imagine, every business has very unique needs, based on their operations, and they use a different set of chemicals and so we have had to create customized programs based on the needs of the business and so i am going to give you one or two examples here and very early on we worked with the puc on the reduction program and we worked with (inaudible) and while the puc worked on developing a permit program for dentists to help to reduce the mercury that was disposed into the bay and we came to help with the training and out reach and provided incentives to install this device and we worked with the large hospitals and to have trained them in the pollution and pretension opportunities and we worked with the dry cleaners and all of the businesses that you have seen and in the interest of time i will not talk about each program, but one thing that i wanted to point out to you is the fact that we emphasized the work of health a lot. and we understand that in some cases the work goes out in a disproportionate healt

but she's the business owner, and she needs to be where the business is.e need leadership and they need supervision. >> what's up with tom? >> tom says he's willing to move. >> i can't imagine, in a million years, that tom would move to waycross. he likes the city life, and he likes the rolexes, and he likes to be a big shot. >> you think he was lying? >> he does that a lot, so-- >> he does lie a lot? >> oh, god. >> has he been lying to me? >> oh, no, i'm just saying that i would believe it when i see it. >> and wa--his girlfriend's there? >> where? >> in tampa? >> oh, i don't know. i'm the type, i don't do any drama at all. >> yeah. >> tom was just--took advantage of a situation. he would've hooked up with anybody. like i tell him, he'd have hooked up with a girl that had no teeth and whatever if she'd have came onto him, 'cause he knew that would never, ever--he would never, ever have a chance with me again. you're a [bleep] scammer and a liar, [bleep for a minute, shut up! i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plu

the ads part of that business was even higher. are thinking about all the other things that we have got teed up for the rest of the year. we made a huge announcement a couple weeks ago with our acquisition. this is one of the world's largest mobile ad exchange businesses out there. essentially, mopub allows us to touch over one billion users for ios and android apps, and bring an added experience to them. we are connecting the dots between the twitter ad platform. for a marketer, we can run a campaign, both on and off twitter. >> amplifying your live tv offering is a big part of what you do. how do you see that playing into it with live tv? >> we have about 70 content partners who are signed up and using twitter amplify. if you're not familiar with amplify, it is our live video experience for renewal broadcast providers. if you have video that appears on tv, you can bring it onto twitter for some special tools we have. we co-monetize that experience with you. we have the distribution angle for the network and also a monetization a

his family has been in the jewelry business on the famous monterey fisherman's wharf for more than 15 years. and now, he says, they need our help. let's go give this business a makeover. you must be joe. >> oh, hey. >> i'm j.j. ramberg from "your business." >> oh. >> it's so nice to meet you and get to finally see your store rp joe's family business, monterey bay silver -- >> we've been here 15 years. >> is one of four independent jewelry stores right next to each other that he and his wife mary own and operate. >> and you must be mary. >> i'm mary. >> first i met joe and now i met you. so nice to meet you. we are thrilled to be here today. >> i'm thrilled to have you. >> okay so i saw the silver store. what's the name of this one? >> this is morning star pearls. >> there's a pearl shop targeting older women. and a silver shop targeting younger ones. >> what's the name of this store? >> this is called splash. >> splash is less about an age group and more about fun. and then there's the most recent store, called everything must go. filled with various leftovers at closeout prices appea

business in san francisco -- small business. the challenge for this one, unlike gross receipts tax, where we had all of business at the table, we only have small business at the table here. no tech companies, no big-businesses are weighing in on this, because none of them employee anyone who is making minimum wage, so there is no point in any of them getting involved in the conversation. so small business is kind of the lone voice here and the non-profits. and it's very difficult to advocate -- it's this self-preservation versus wanting people to have a better lot in life and nobody in small business says that necessarily raising the minimum wage is a bad thing, but we also don't want to put our businesses in jeopardy. because those are the very things that create those jobs. and if we are forced to go out of business, if we're forced to move, if we're forced to curtail hiring and if we are forced to down-size and if we are forced to eliminate a lot of optional benefits that people don't consider that happen at the small-business le

the digital age. plus, some spicy business advice from the ceo of chipotle. and they created dog treats even a human could like. >> a brownie so it's caron and pumpkin. >> a new year of entrepreneurial which is dumb coming up on "your business." >>> small businesses revitalizing the economy and american express open is here to help. that's why we are proud to present "your business" on msnbc. >>> hi there everyone. happy new year, it's great to see you this week. i'm jj ramberg. welcome to "your business." there are a lot of entrepreneurs out there using technology to shake up old school businesses. just think of uber, a company worth billions which simply makes it so we can reserve a car service on our smart phone and track it as it picks us up. uber took an industry, made it more efficient with technology and voila, customers went wild for it. today we meet a student of entrepreneurship who saw this same type of opportunity with the old coat check business. he's growing his company because he's changing a system that had not caught up with the times. >> dere

i run the everyday business. ve designed pretty much everything--science kits, skulls, race cars, race sets. i wear many hats. >> and so when did the company start? >> 1987. my dad, he's the majority owner, was looking for a business to purchase. that was when it was all fossil replicas, so we hadn't gotten into the toy part of it yet. >> all of this stuff. >> both: yes. >> that's where skullduggery comes from. we make saber-toothed tiger skulls, humans, hominids, primates--museum-quality replicas. >> i was wondering where the name came from... >> both: yes. >> 'cause it's not so toy-friendly. >> no. >> and so the skull line that you were telling me the business started with, what percentage of the business is skull business? >> less than 10%. >> and so why are you guys still in it? >> we like to keep our guys busy in the slow season. >> i would love to see all the toys. is there a way i can see them? >> yeah, let me take you into the office. >> okay. >> i'll give you a quick breakdown and then we'll give you a to

and the small businesses the smallest of the businesses struggle the most. you know, because big national chances they can survive pretty much anything but the small businesses. i would entertain a motion to forward to the full board as a committee report >> everyone is happy about this. >> we'll take that without objection. thooibz. >> there's no further business. >> we're

new conditional use under the code requirement. >> no, no i'm saying if burger king went out of the business if - >> if mcdonald's took over it's requires a new you cu. >> but we're changing it. >> it has limited applications but if mcdonald's buys out burger king they'll have to go through the cu process and if there was a let's say a phil's cfo on the corner of somewhere we gave it a conditional use from 14 to 21 stores but a reinforce and a half later they exit that property and starbuck's wants to come in. does that trigger a conditional use or an administrative process. that currently is a cu but we haven't worked out the abandonment so that's something else we need to look at that a standard cu is 3 years but we can change that in the process of administration review >> with respect to process you have outlined in a table a number of other proposals and we've heard from two supervisors offices that there were pending board of supervisors legislation ideas or whatever running around about this whole thing we've known about but your excusing to move forward despite the fact the board of