once the c.b.o. score was recalculated, demonstrating phenomenal deficit reduction, the complaint became that the c.b.o. is playing number tricks. of course, the minority trusts c.b.o. when the numbers work for them. the minority's plan is to allow insurance premiums to rise unregulated by government intervention. let a family of four's premiums double every decade and end medicare as we know it. if the health insurance reform debate want so serious these arguments would be laughable. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. mr. ryan: i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from new jersey, mr. garrett. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. . mr. garrett: i rise in opposition because it violates the u.s. constitution and will be found unconstitutional once it gets through the courts. while congress is given the power under the constitution to regulate interstate activity, never before were we required to purchase

the future. we can clearly map this out using c.b.o. numbers. t i would like to turn this over to our leader, the whill, mr. cantor. >> clearly paul has laid out for weeks and days the budget trickery involved with this bill. c.b.o.'s estimate is just not accurate. listen. if they can about, and the democratic majority can go with -- about assuming this kind of fiscal state, one really has to question how it is we're going to see the course of our future charted in any responsibility way. and this kind of trickery that is involved with this, really, i think has now manifested itself in their difficulty in getting the votes. i mean, we are here right now and we know they don't have the votes for this bill. you know, listen, it is very straight forward. we know that we need 38 democrat no votes in order to defeat this bill. publicly right now there are 33 stated no votes on the democrat's side. we also know there are 12 members of the so-called stupak group that are standing firm against the attempt to allow for government funding of abortion. we a

i would hope that we would have the c.b.o. cores as soon as possible so we can go to budget on the beginning of the week and then go on the internet and take a vote. thank you. thank you. >> the scores today? >> it is an independent agency. i wanted them last friday. i would hope that we have them today. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> c.q. today is reporting that the house will -- the budget committee will work on it on men, and then on wednesday, the rules committee will set up the debate, with a debate in both possibly happening thursday and friday. follow congressional action by visiting our health care hub web site where you can watch hundreds of hours of video. it is all at c-span.org/health care. >> sunday, your chance to talk to karl rove live on book-tv. he will take your e-mails on hs new memoir, "courage and consequence. " then wife janet on -- all this weekend, live coverage of this year's tucson festival of books. find the entire schedule at booktv.org. get the latest updates on twitter. >> coming up this morning o

but the c.b.o. said it would cut more from the deficit-- about $138 billion through 2019-- and another $1.2 trillion in the following decade. house majority leader steny hoyer: >> this bill is the biggest deficit reduction bill that any member of congress is ever going to have the opportunity to vote on. >> reporter: and pelosi said the substitute plan-- posted online this afternoon-- will curb the growth of medicare costs and make medicare solvent for an extra nine years. and it eliminates a special medicaid funding deal in the senate bill that applied only to nebraska. >> we didn't like the state inequities. it's a category and this bill corrects the state inequities, making medicare, excuse me, the medicaid reimbursement fair to all of the states. >> reporter: the democratic leaders said the cost estimates and other features gave them additional momentum to push ahead with a sunday vote on the overhaul legislation. but speaker pelosi was still working to drum up the 216 votes to pass it. democrat

>> i looked at the c.b.o. numbers and the bluedogs with promising reduction of $38 billion on the deficit in the next ten years. $1.2 trillion after that. but i'm also now looking at what sort of impact will it have on the state budget this texas? i used to be on the budget for ten years in texas. been talking to some of my former colleagues to make sure we, you know, we analyze the impact that it has on texas when you expand medicaid expansiexpansion. in texas we have about 5.9 million individuals without insurance. texas without a doubt would become the biggest winner of funding that would flow in the state, $120 billion. the other thing, i'm a big tort reform democrat. i had language in the house bill, not in the senate bill. i think they should have tort reform, liability, limitations and i'm still working on it to see what we need to do to make sure what the texas medical association needed to protect the state tort laws is somehow we need to get this done. >> neil: all right. well, it sounds like you have

the c.b.o. says that that's going to add $8 trillion to our debt. so while the republicans say they've been concerned about solving america's health care problems, they really haven't done anything about it. and the one thing that sticks with me throughout this entire debate one year long, nobody on the republican side has ever said in any discussion that they had any interest in insuring the uninsured. those 47 million people, many of whom are going bankrupt, some of whom are dying, 18,000 a year are dying, almost a million a year going bankrupt, did they say anything about insuring the uninsured? not a word. so we're committed to providing the health care system america needs, wants and demands. we are going to do it this weekend. as i said before, this will be the proudest vote i ever cast on the floor of the house of representatives. i yield back. . the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentlewoman from north carolina is recognized. ms. foxx: thank you, madam speaker. i want to s

and the c.b.o. would say would you like me to tell you how to do it with the horses or without the horses? if you tell me how to do it without the horses, it's not going to cost as much. or if i have a gas station, would you like to have me tell you how to operate that with the gas or without the gas in it. that's what they are saying here. they have gone to the congressional budget office and said tell us how much this health care bill costs, and they have said to them with the doctors or without the doctors? they say oh, no, keep the doctors out, because according to the president's own budget, that's $371 billion more over ten years. and if you put that in, then the whole bill adds to the deficit. and so they leave it out. so that's why we say and i would say that the first thing this bill does is add to the debt each tennessean's share of the debt. the second thing is it has has $8,470 in new spending for each person in tennessee. the next thing it does is the tennesseans enrolled in medicare adv

saying it is $2.5 trillion to $3 trillion, more than double or triple the c.b.o. estimate. then there are the tax increases on everything from medical equipment producers to tanning bed operators to $210 billion in new medicare taxes. then, there are the fines of $695 for individuals or up to 2.5% of household income against people who do not buy insurance. and the employer mandate of $2,000 per employee if they do not provide insurance. the bill starts the tax increases immediately but 98% of the benefits do not take effect until 2014. two lawyers from one of the nation's most prominent law firms wrote a column for "the washington post" entitled "illegal house reform." david and lee wrote about -- wrote that this bill is without question unconstitutional. . i went to a reception and the doctor who delivered me brought my records and he charged $60 months -- for nine months of terror. then we took what was a very minor problem for very few people and turned it into a massive major problem for everyone. anything the federal government subsidizes, the costs just explode. there

the c.b.o. report that i've been citing to earlier and here is a table 1 on page 5 of that congressional budget office report that analyzes this plan. and it goes through what people have in the current insurance market. there's about 25 million people in the small group market. there is 134 million people in the large group market. that's 159 million americans who have health insurance. for the small group market, it's estimated that the cost increase or savings is between up 1% in increase or down 2%. and for those in the large group, it's zero to potentially minus 3%. so this is not reducing the cost of health insurance in any meaningful way. and for individuals who are in -- who are out there who are not in a group, who are purchasing insurance individually, the congressional budget office says that their cost of health insurance will go up 10% to 13%. so the whole very reason, the main, primary reason why we are about the business allegedly of debating health care and passing this big bill w

this spending is not included in the c.b.o.'s cost estimate. $53 billion, the amount of revenue this bill raised from social security to appear as if it actually reduces the deficit. $202.3 billion, the amount of money cut from medicare advantage for seniors to help offset the cost of awe a new entitlement. we've heard over and over that if you have the insurance you like, you can keep it. have we not heard that? you can keep the insurance that you have. these seniors with medicare advantage are not going to be able to keep the insurance that they have. where does that come from? $436 billion, the amount of federal subsidies in the bill that will go directly to insurance campaigns to provide health care in the exchange -- to insurance companies to provide health care in the exchange. $462 billion to pay to these evil insurance companies. no wonder they don't mind getting cut out of a little bit of money for medicare advantage for providing additional coverage the seniors pay for when they're going to get another $436 billion. 10

as well as the staff of the c.b.o., doug elman dorf, phil ellis, kate massey, pete fountaine, and the whole c.b.o. health care team along with tom and everyone on the staffer on the joint committee on taxation who contributed to their estimates. and finally, two remarkable staffers in my office. have made health reform the cause of their lives and just about every one of their waking hours for the past year. liz murray and ed lorenzi. thank you very much. mr. speaker, one of my staffers, my deputy chief of staff, has a 4-year-old daughter. she's a beautiful young woman. she's a smart young woman. her name is could he let -- collette. a few days ago a neighbor asked collette where her mom was. and i'm told that she answered, she's at work making sure everyone can go see a doctor. thanks, mom. thanks to all the moms throughout america who when we pass this bill will have a greater sense of security for their kids, for their families, for themselves. i know this bill is complicated. but it's also very simple. illness and infirmity are universal. and we are stronger against them together

the way it comes out. i realize that's a risk. but i'm telling you it's been so abusive, c.b.o. has done virtually nothing, about a tenth of the republican bills they have scored are democratic bills. if they want to bring equity to this, it is time c.b.o. started scoring republican bills and not just democratic bills. i had to get that in mr. akin: i appreciate, congressman gohmert, you know, those of us who know congressman gohmert, i know my colleagues do, know that he has a gift of persistence. i recall one of his more persistent moment, right here on this floor, when there was a bill that i would say is probably the second worst bill i've seen, it's only half as bad as this bill, and it was a bill that was amended with 300 pages of amendments at 3:00 in the morning, i think it was the late part of spring of this last year. i remember gohmert was -- had the same sense of persistence. he got this idea that maybe if we're going to vote on a bill, that it ought to be here in the chamber because there is a rule that the bill we're debating and voting on is supposed to be in the c

i think the c.b.o. discusses in great detail the type of savings that the system is going to see from this. whether or not the politics is -- whether people's political agendas are speaking more than what's on -- what's best for their constituents, i think that will ultimately be for voters to decide. >> shifting topic, mr. netanyahu is going to be in town next week. with the trip postponed, can you walk us through plans for that? >> we have not gotten that far down that road yet. we'll have a week ahead tomorrow but i have -- i'm not sure they've gotten that detailed into next week. >> there will be some bilapse, won't there? >> let me get a fuller conversation when scheduling has a chance to breathe. >> "the new york times" reported some talk within the white house of an american plan in the wake of staaled talks -- of stalled talks right now, is that correct is there talk within the white house? >> our focus is on, and our focus for the last several days has been on restarting the proximity talks and

i made the request in writing of c.b.o. back in august. then eventually i'm told, well, you don't have the highest ranking republican on the committee of jurisdiction requesting it. so i talked to joe barton. our highest ranking member of the energy and commerce committee, where chairman waxman rammed this thing through the committee. . he sent a letter requesting that c.b.o. score my bill. we wait a while, ok have you got it in the works, sit coming? and then we're told you don't have a request from the highest-ranking republican on the tax committee, i asked dave camp, wonderful colleague, he says absolutely he shoots a letter to c.b.o., says score gohmert's big. that was back in september. since then -- gohmert's bill. that was back in september. since then, spur of the moment, could be a democratic senator or speaker or chairman waxman or somebody down here, man, they request one they won't even have a full bill and until just last week, when they were given an 11-page summary and the 19-page summary of the summary, thank god c.b.o. fin

none of that the c.b.o. has in there. so the president, mr.sident, you should realize you sign this bill, you are signing a bill that's going to create deficits. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. stearns: the savings we'll see are not there. we are continuing to put this country into hock. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: members are reminded to address their remarks to the chair. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house host: our guest is a history professor at george washington university. we are glad you could be here. talk to us about how this legislation compares with other major bills of the past. give us some historical perspective to start out? guest: it is certainly one of the three big ones. my personal list begins with socials your security reduce social security from 1935. it is the basic for our social policy. it is where we began welfare, unemployment. number two, particular to this field would be 1965 when medicare was passed, an amendment to

it has $40 billion in extending costs assumed by congress -- by the c.b.o. for continuing the lower tax rates that have been in place, most of them, for 10 years. those to be continued. and they score that as costing, i guess, some $40-some-odd billion. but that's paid for. my democratic colleagues are prepared for pay for continuing to allow the american people to keep money that's theirs, that the government hasn't assessed against them and extracted from them over a -- a 10-year period. now that's paid for through other increase in taxes and other activities that so far pay for that. but the $104 billion in new spending, that's not paid for. regardless, the bill is a bill that adds to the deb debt $104 billion. i don't see how that's a responsible action for our congress. because last year in february, congress passed an $800 billion stimulus package, the largest spending bill in the history of america. every penny of it added to the debt of the united states. the kind of bill the likes of which congress has never, ever seen before, we did that. that was n

host: so we're still waiting for the c.b.o.? what about president obama signing the actual legislation? what about that issue? where does that fall? guest: originally, he hopes march 18 would sort of be when it could get to the president, but he's backed off of that yesterday in his briefing. i'm not sure they have a set date. i think they still want to sign it. host: next call comes from indianapolis. lincoln on our republican line, hi. caller: i'm going to start off with some comments. this government health plan, the government health plan i was told could be the cause some of job losses for like medicare, united healthcare, med sexade that, and my question is, what do the -- what does the government health plan include? guest: well, what i was just trying to get out is that democrats still don't necessarily know. the leadership has sort of worked out a compromise behind closed doors about what exactly they're going to do, but we still haven't seen final language, so we don't know exactly what the final bill would look like. h

the c.b.o. ord a few weeks ago that the recovery act added between one million and 2.1 million jobs by the fourth-quarter of 2009. again, still in process. halfway basically, or almost, i should say, halfway through the implementation of the bill -- the bill's implementation one million to two million jobs. the c.b.o. said that the recovery act raised economic growth from -- by 1.5% to 3.5% over that same period. so it's contributed to growth. the c.b.o. director doug elmendorf said during an economic hearing said and i quote -- "the policies enacted, meaning the recovery bill, increasing g.d.p. and employment relative to what it would otherwise be." unquote. so that's the c.b.o. talking about the recovery bill. there's another way to measure it. there's lots of ways to measure the impact and i would argue the success of it. january and february of 2009 the country lost 1.9 million jobs. january, february, 2010, the job loss as of the most recent report for february, 60,000 jobs, just about 62,

the c.b.o and it's more than paid for. the c.b.o. projects significant savings for the first 10 years and huge savings for the next 10 years. mr. speaker, future generations will look back on the vote we cast today, just as today we look back on the votes of social security and medicare. those future generations will see that we proudly voted in health care for all. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield to the the gentleman from colorado. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. >> i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend in opposition. mr. camp: i yield to the gentleman from texas. >> i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks in opposition. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. camp: i yield to the gentlelady from north carolina for a nam consent request. ms. foxx: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks in opposition to this flawed health bill. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. camp: and for the purposes of a unanimou

. >> we're going to do it as soon as it's ready to be brought to the floor, as soon as we have the c.b.o. numbers that we can have confidence in and i would say that certainly saturday and sunday are possibilities. >> reporter: but republicans are threatening to go all the way to the supreme court if democrats try to use a parliamentary short cut to pass a set of fixes to the senate bill without voting on the controversial bill itself. >> there's no instance in the history of the united states of america where landmark legislation has been sent to the president's desk without an upor down vote on the floor of the house and the floor of the senate. >> reporter: one hot button issue that appears to be fading in importance is abortion. today, two more anti-abortion rights members said that they are fine with the language in the senate bill. they don't believe it provides federal funding for abortions and they will vote yes when the vote is held. katie? >> couric: congressional correspondent nancy cordes tonight. nancy, thank you. we want to take a closeer look now at that controversial stra

last month the c.b.o. issued its report on the effects of the recovery act in the fourth quarter and in that report this is what c.b.o. said -- quote -- "c.b.o. estimates that in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2009, the recovery act added between one million and 2.1 million to the number of workers it employed in the united states. it and -- and it increased the number of equivalent jobs by between 1.4 million and 3 million." that's what the c.b.o. said. they say that the recovery act saved between one million and three million jobs. that's real job creation. that means the recovery act is working. and that's why we need to defeat efforts like that made by the senator from kentucky, the senator from south dakota, to cut back on the recovery act. cutting back on approving job creator is the last thing that we would want to do right now. we are working to line up votes on the pending amendments and on amendments that the senator from kentucky seeks to offer on the short-term unemployment and the cobra bi

i don't believe it will be reduced by as much as the c.b.o. program. >> you believe we'll have a v.a.t. tax, do you believe the commission will recommend a tax for americans like europe. >> i believe the debt commission will recommend some sort of revenue enhancer tax and cutting spending because that's what they typically do. they offer to cut spending -- >> here's we go! >> final thought. >> cutting spending. >>re out. what are we willing to give up? are we willing to give up more tax money to the government or service? >> we can give up those. >> all right, i have to leave it right there. brian and steve, take it away. >> thank you very much. straight ahead, the next weapon in the war on terror. the hottest chili pepper known to man? we are not kidding. >> for the first time in more than 100 years, the national anthem was played at a college baseball game. what took so long? and -- >> brian, because this next one is actually a tag team thing. in a stare down right now. get ready for wrestle mania 26. it's this weekend but we have the champ

and, again, looking at the tables, the back of the c.b.o. report, some of them look to be pretty darn significant. reductions in annual updates to medicare fee for service payment rates over the period of 2010 to 2019, that's a 10-year budget cycle, a cut of $186 billion. medicare advantage rates based on plans, that's cut $118 billion. medicare and medicaid disproportionate share payments, that's cut $43 billion over that 10 years. community living assistance services and supports, that's cut $70 billion over 10 years. one of the things that's really disingenuous about these cuts is when you look at this, they do have it laid out, year over year on the congressional budget office report, and the next four or five years those cuts are actually pretty modest and then they really kick in the last five or six years and we all know that there is a big presidential election coming up in 2012 so, again, perhaps it is no accident that those cuts are diminished in the early years and then expanded in the out years. payment adjustments for home health

the actuary in c.b.o. has looked at that in a rather amazing analysis -- and in a rather amazing analysis, they said, yeah, right, what you are doing is double counting the same dollar. let me quote. this is th comes from c.b.o. but i can take it the same from c.m.s. c.b.o. said the key point is that the savings to the h-1 trust fund under the patient projection and affordable care act would be received by the government only once, so they cannot be set aside to pay for future medicare spending and at the same time pay for current spending -- unquote. and, you know, that's exactly what they tried to do here. mr. gregg: i think it is important to go on to say what scr b.o. said. "in effect, the majority of the h-1 trust fund savings and the reconciliation proposal would be used to pay for other spending and therefore would not enhance the ability of the government to pay for the future of medicare benefits." the amendment we have at the desk does just the opposite. it will allow us to use any savings to pay

how do the c.b.o. numbers even make any difference? $954 billion. oh, well, party in my pants.k you for sending that one by. how does it make a difference? we're transitioning. not at all once. we're transitioning. every person in washington says it's a starter home. hello. they're transitioning to make healthcare a right along with jae education. just as f.d.r. planned on doing. the second bill of rights. f.d.r., unfinished revolution and why we need -- oh, written by the guy i've said for a year is the most evil man, the most dangerous man in america. this has been the plan from the beginning. but first, we're smeared. first, we're saying we're not legitimate and making things up. oh, they're hate mongers. whatever. now the truth comes out again. this time for the center from american progress, left wing george soros group run by john padesta. they have now admitted -- watch. >> because the rules say that because of some of the rules about reconciliation you have to include this bill with the healthcare bill. this was the plan all along. when the budget came out in 2010, inst

how do the c.b.o. numbers even make any difference? $954 billion. oh, well, party in my pants.nk you for sending that one by. how does it make a difference? we're transitioning. not at all once. we're transitioning. every person in washington says it's a starter home. hello. they're transitioning to make healthcare a right along with jae education. just as f.d.r. planned on doing. the second bill of rights. f.d.r., unfinished revolution and why we need -- oh, written by the guy i've said for a year is the most evil man, the most dangerous man in america. this has been the plan from the beginning. but first, we're smeared. first, we're saying we're not legitimate and making things up. oh, they're hate mongers. whatever. now the truth comes out again. this time for the center from american progress, left wing george soros group run by john padesta. they have now admitted -- watch. >> because the rules say that because of some of the rules about reconciliation you have to include this bill with the healthcare bill. this was the plan all along. when the budget came out in 2010, ins

the latest c.b.o. score proves our point. i would suggest the president not scrap his trip to indonesia. he should scrap this bill and start over on a bill that americans can embrace and that lawmakers from both parties will actually be proud to vote for. taking a bill that house democrats are too embarrassed to vote for, adding more than $150 billion in new taxes, and slashing $60 billion more from our seniors' medicare and keeping sweetheart deals may make some washington democrats giddy, but that's not reform. mr. prident, yield the floor. the presiding officer: the senator from oklahoma is recognized. mr. inhofe: mr. president, the regular order? the presiding officer: without objection. mr. inhofe: the regular order of amendment number 3475. the presiding officer: that is the regular order. the senator has the right to call for the regular order. mr. inhofe: all right. i call up second-degree amendment number 3549 and ask for its immediate csiration. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: the senator fro

how do the c.b.o. numbers even make any difference? $954 billion. oh, well, party in my pants.nk you for sending that one by. how does it make a difference? we're transitioning. not at all once. we're transitioning. every person in washington says it's a starter home. hello. they're transitioning to make healthcare a right along with jae education. just as f.d.r. planned on doing. the second bill of rights. f.d.r., unfinished revolution and why we need -- oh, written by the guy i've said for a year is the most evil man, the most dangerous man in america. this has been the plan from the beginning. but first, we're smeared. first, we're saying we're not legitimate and making things up. oh, they're hate mongers. whatever. now the truth comes out again. this time for the center from american progress, left wing george soros group run by john padesta. they have now admitted -- watch. >> because the rules say that because of some of the rules about reconciliation you have to include this bill with the healthcare bill. this was the plan all along. when the budget came out in 2010, ins

the recovery act. there they go again trying to scale back what c.b.o. says creates jobs. they tried it with the bunning amendment tuesday. they tried it with the thune amendment yesterday. they've tried it with the bunning amendment yesterday. they tried it with the burr amendment yetd. each time the senate rejected their attempt to raid the recovery act. the nonpartisan congressional budget office said that the recovery act would create one million to three million -- between one million and three million full-time equivalent jobs. that's real job creation. now is not the time to scale back job creation. and i urge that we don't adopt this amendment. i raise a point of order against section 103d of the pending amendment pursuant to section 403 of s. con. res. 13, the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2010. the presiding officer: the senator from massachusetts. mr. brown: i move to waive the applicable section to the budget act with respect to my amendment and ask for the call of the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? ther

we help seniors by closing the doughnut hole. we save money, c.b.o.-scored. everyone wins with this bill, but especially the american people. i'm proud that we are passing comprehensive health care. the current system is not sustainable financially and what we are doing means that everybody wins. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. barton: i was going to yield to mr. pitts, but i see you standing there. i would yield 30 seconds to the the gentleman from oklahoma, mr. sullivan. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. sullivan: i would like to thank congressman barton for yielding me time. and higher premiums, higher taxes and cutting medicare is not health care reform. republicans care about health care, but we don't care for this bill. unfortunately, the white house and congressional democrats are still insisting on their massive, 2,700-page bill that includes higher premiums, $500 billion in higher taxes and $500 billion in

so if he knows it and still purports that his formula that the c.b.o.eemingly backed up is going to pay for it, is he lying? >> i think he is being -- let's be generous. he is being disingenuous. he is an intelligent man. he knows. he knew from the beginning that the reforms he has introduced, which he wants to do for reasons that are noble, to eninsure the uninsured are going to cost a fortune. they are not going to be honest and open about the cost because that would have killed it. however, the president has established a commission to reduce the deficit. we now have $8 trillion in debt. cbo has said that even without health care we're going to add another 9 trillion in a decade. you add in health care it's another 2.5. he knows that if you don't do anything about it we're going over a cliff. so he has appointed a commission. it reports after the election. remember, after the election. and i predict that the major recommendation is going to be a national sales tax. there is no other way to produce the revenue they are going to need. it's a river of r

said in its analysis of the reform signed into law by the president today. c.b.o. expects that the legislation would reduce federal budget deficits over the decked after 20 1-9d relative to those projected under current law -- with a total effect during that decade that is in a broad range between one-quarter% andquarte r percent and one-half percent of g.d.p." and now we have the happy ability to inform our colleagues that with the reconciliation bill added in, that the total deficit reduction will be one half of one percent of g.d.p. in the second ten years or $1.3 trillion. this health care reform package also expands coverage. again, i'm referring now to the bill signed into law by the president today. because that bill alone expands coverage to 94% of the american people by building off the existing employer-based system. it creates state-based health exchanges for individuals and small businesses. it provides tax credits to help individuals and small businesses buy insurance, and it expands medicaid eligibility while providing additional assistance to the stat

speaker, what we have heard from the c.b.o. is just alarming. by the time my three kids are my age, i'm 40 and they're 5, 6, and 8 years old, the c.b.o. said the path we are on before passing this bill, the tax rate on that generation by the time they're 40 years old will be, the 10% bracket goes up to 25%. middle income taxpayers pay 63% and the top rate small businesses pay will be 88%. this is the legacy we're leaving the next generation. last year, the general accountability office said the unfunded liability of the federal government, meaning the debt we owe to the promises being made, was $62 trillion. you know what they say today? $76 trillion. and what are we doing here? a $2.4 trillion new, unfunded entitlement on top of all of that. we can't even afford the government we've got right now, and we're going to be putting this new, unfunded entitlement on top of it? mr. speaker, at the end of the day, though, what's most insidious, what's most concerning, what's most troubling about this bill, is what the future holds this bill subscribes t

but the c.b.o., that's the numbers they were given so the reason this was part of the health care bill essentially to make these bogus numbers line up. >> matt lewis, thank you so much. very interesting issue. we'll see you next time. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up next on this monday morning, live from new york, homicide bombers murder 35 people in moscow. we go live there with the very latest. it's a grim situation. >> it's a bad story. then what is a v.a.t. tax? it's part of the president's health care bill. while you may not see it, you'll definitely feel it. >> that's all, folks. and cops relieved when this chase comes to an end. they were shocked when they found out who was behind the wheel of that s.u.v. you always end up with something delicious. ♪ triscuit. weave some goodness. >> welcome back, everyone. we start this half-hour with a fox news alert because two deadly explosions while you were sleeping hit moscow's subway system during the busy rush hour morning for them. officials say two female homicide bombers blew themselves up killing at least

and in the second decade, c.b.o. rojects that the combined bills will reduce the deficit by a broad range around .5% of g.d.p. mr. president, .5% of g.d.p. is is $1.3 trillion over ten years. a significant achievement in deficit reduction. let's look at another number that critics too frequently ignore. savings in medicare and medicaid spending from innovative reforms in the delivery of health services. particularly increased efficiencies, improved quality and the elimination of wasteful spending. both c.b.o. and the c.m.a. actuary estimate those savings at roughly $490 billion, nearly half a trillion dollars, over the next ten years. and the economists at the commonwealth fund pegged that number over half a trillion $57. examples of this are found in c.b.o.'s forecast that an independent, nonpartisan commission of experts with authority to determine payment rates under medicare will save the treasury $13.3 billion over a ten-year period. c.b.o. also credits medicare payment refor that seek to limit hospital readmissi

the c.b.o. of this most recent version with all the new revisions that came out yesterday said that 22 million people remain uninsured at the end of 10 years under this bill. and i also think the idea that there are a lot of poor people out there, including children who don't have insurance, is not true. those people are covered either by medicaid or schip if they are indeed -- if they are indeed poor. and those programs are available. they can enroll in them. i think most of the people who are uninsured are uninsured either because they choose not to buy insurance or because they have some pre-existing condition that makes it unavailable. i think there are targeted solutions we talked about earlier that could do that. i think we can afford to do it but do it in a cost-effective way that doesn't turn upside-down the health insurance system for everyone else. i agree. we ought to have much better budget priorities than we have. unfortunately there haven't been large cuts to other areas on the tab

according to the c.b.o., it increases the deficit by $65 billion over the next five.hat -- the presiding officer: time has expired. mr. baucus: -- that the gregg amendment violates section 310-d-2 of the congressional budget act. mr. gregg: mr. president, parliamentary inquiry. this bill pays for the doctors' fix for three years, does it not? i'll withdraw -- the presiding officer: the chair is unaware. mr. gregg: i move to waive section 904 of the congressional budget act of 1974, section 4-g-3 of the statutory pay-as-you-go act of 2010, and i move to waive all applicable sections to those acts and applicable budget resolutions for the purposes of my amendment and ask for the yeas and nays. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? there appears to vote:

here's what the experts at c.b.o. said. "the key point is that the savings to medicare trust fund will be received by government only once, so they cannot be set aside to pay for future medicare spending and at the same time pay for current spending on other parts of the legislation or on other programs." by the way, did i mention that at a time when major government programs, like medicare and medicaid, are already on a path to fiscal insolvency, it is interesting to note that more than half of the newly covered lives, 16 million out of the 32 million are simply being pushed into the medicaid program. and if anyone thinks that states who are facing more than $200 billion in deficits will not be left holding the bag in the future, then i have a bridge to sell you. i've said all along that this is not a fight between republicans and democrats but a fight between democrats and a majority of americans who do not want this bill. in town hall after town hall, in poll after poll, in election after election, americans begged washin

it is because of environmental laws and other things, the c.b.o. and the administration has said that the average time -- the average time for a highway project is -- is 13 years. for example, in my state of oklahoma, highway 40, a huge project, was started in 19916789 if this amendment had been there, that project would have been terminated in 2001. i urge my conservative friends unless you just don't like highways an roads to kill this amendment. the presiding officer: is there a sufficient second? there appears to be. there is a sufficient second. the clerk will call the roll. vote: vote: vote: the presiding officer: is there any senator wishing to vote or to change a vote? if not, on this vote the ayes are 87, the noes are 11. the amendment is agreed to. without objection. there are now two minutes of debate equally divided prior to a ve in relation to amendment number 3458 offered by the senator from louisiana, mr. vitter. a senator: the the senate will come to order. the senator from louisiana is recognized. mr. vitter: mr. president, i ask un

and the original c.b.o. te of the stimulus shows that 21% of the money, $122 billion, won't -- of the spending, won't occur until the year 2012 or thereafter. we've got an immediate crisis. our democratic colleagues say we have to extend unemployment insurance. in fact, it's such an immediate crisis that they have to waive the paygo requirements that would ordinarily apply because it's an emergency. if that's the case, then why not simply take this money that isn't going to be spent until after the year 2012 and pay for the legislation that is before us right now? why would we put aside stimulus money to spend in 2012 when people need it today? it's the very argument that my colleague from illinois was just making to my colleague from kentucky. why pile on the deficit if we have this store of money available? and i think, therefore, my colleague from kentucky made a good point when he suggested that this money should be paid for out of the stimulus funding. and i am sorry to see my democratic colleagues objec

the c.b.o. has scored this one at $10 million over its life, $3 million a year. what is the cost of the loss of the president? what is the cost of a soldier's orders to deploy being made public? what is the cost of your tax returns being made public? what is the cost to sensitive national defense information or, in fact, the leaking of people who are in the clandestine service. all of that has been shown to be at risk as long as peer-to-peer continues to operate on the federal system. mr. speaker, directing the office of management and budget to create the guidance for prohibiting download installation by government employees of these pieces of software which is essentially spy software, spy software on behalf of those who sell this information and have access to this information, is, in fact, essential. file sharing within the federal workforce and within congress is closely monitored. we do have the ability to do file transfer protocol in a secure way. as our hearings have shown, those who market this software to the public, usually for free, do so with back doo

the c.b.o. estimates estimates of the bill are required to ignore medicare payments to physicians. how many times have we ignored the medicare payments to physicians? that's right, never. how do we fix it? we just need to come up with with $300 billion more dollars. we had a chance to do that through the bill, keeping medicare money for medicare. but no, we took the medicare money and we have decided to put that into new programs, new programs for the uninsured. now, there are solutions out there for making sure the uninsured are covered, too, and it didn't have to come out of medicare. so the c.b.o. estimates the bills are required to ignore the issue of medicare payments to physicians. the bill also does nothing to fix the scheduled medicare payments to the other health providers. does the majority really believe the medicare payments to doctors will be cut 21% later this year? not if history keeps itself up. but let me tell you, that that $132 billion that's supposed to reduce the deficit in

although not all of these costs will show up as increasing the deficit because of the unique c.b.o. scoring conventions, all told, the highway extension, under this bill, will add $46.5 billion to the debt over the next ten years and will authorize $142.5 billion in additional spending over the next ten years. mr. president, you hear the president talking about not adding to the deficit. all of our colleagues wring their hands and say we've got to somehow control federal spending. so in this legislation, we take up tomorrow, we have $46.5 billion to the debt over the next ten years and then authorize an additional $142.5 billion of spending over the next ten years. when will it stop? there's a provision of the bill that has some merit to it. it's called the payroll tax holiday. although i think the way it's actually been constructed, it is not something we should do. this is the most of expensive piece of the bill. in fact, the congressional budget office has told us that it expects a provision similar to this to create five to nine jobs for each $1 million in budgetary costs in 2010

i think many of the team believe that cost saving that c.b.o. can't look into will actually exceed what has been outlined as is often the case with legislation that they look at. so the president is confident that we will be on a path toward meeting the more than $1 trillion in deficit savings that the congressional budget office says will happen as a result of the president's signature over the course of the next two decades. >> sounds like he is ready to stand up for it -- if congress comes in with a bill that would reduce those cost savings, sounds like he's prepared. >> the president throughout the negotiations was clear, even when others either inside or outside of government did not want to be part of cost reductions as part of health care reform. so the president is very focused on ensuring that what he has outlined comes to fruition. >> how many -- of the 219 democrats who voted for obamacare have invited the president to campaign for them in their districts this fall? >> i don't have a political schedule in front of me. >> not one of the

first of all, the budget -- the c.b.o. said that the legislation, the health care legislation reduced the deficit by $132 billion in the first ten years and between $631 billion and $1.3 trillion in the second ten years. that's cut, cut deficits. now, let me just make a point there. we have large budget deficits, as basically the world knows. they have got to be reduced. health care reform is a step toward reducing our fiscal deficits. it's a very significant step and as peter orzag said, the head of congressional budget office, the head of office of management and budget, the path to iewg our fiscal deficit situation is through health care reform. we need health care reform to get our -- get budgets, family, company and governments under control. just to repeat, our bill according to c.b.o. would cut costs for taxpayers, reduce budget deficits up to to $10 billion and a trillion the next ten. to summarize, our bill provides real cost control. that's what's needed, real cost control. our bill reforms incentives under the ta

but the reality on this one piece of legislation, the c.b.o. says it will significantly cut the deficit over the next 10 years. host: with our time winding down, emily is opposed. quick comment. caller: i would like to give three quick unique points of view. first of all, i do not believe that the government should prohibit abortion, but they should not make it to where who don't believe in it should have to pay for it. that rips the fabric of our republic. another thing is they do not include cross state line competition. this is going to create monopolies for insurance companies. they have something in there for big pharm cutting out competition. that is going to keep prices up, and that is not going to help us at all. that is going to cause prices to go up. host: last point. we are out of time. caller: and i

first of all, i'd like to submit for the record the c.b.o. scoring of this current bill that is before us. both the scoring and the offsets offsets -- i ask unanimous consent that they be put into the record. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. bunning: the first amendment is with unspent stimulus funds, and the second is by shutting down unnecessary or duplicate federal programs. in other words, i'm saying we should use money that we have already set aside that has not been spent or eliminate wasteful spending to pay for the benefits that are in this current bill. over the last few days, many senators on the other side of the aisle have come to the floor and said that unemployments are the best form of stimulus available. they say that the families that are getting those benefits turn around and spend the money immediately. well, if that is true, i cannot think of a better use of the money from last year's so-called stimulus bill. why leave that money sit around unused in a government account somewhere when those funds could get int

the c.b.o. gave a very consecutive estimate of saving 54 billion over 10 years. if it's the kind of medical liability reform, comprehensive, absolutely fair and balanced so patients who are injured by practitioners of medicine and by facilities that are practicing below the standard of care, that they absolutely have a redress of their griefances and a decent recovery. but the president, mr. speaker, in the bills that we are currently looking at, the house and senate bills, there is like $25 million worth of grants to states to look at, to study. we keep creating these commissions, but not even allowing states who have already capped non-economic damages, so-called pain and suffering, those frivolous lawsuits, those states wouldn't be eligible for this $23 million of grants. so i hope that his comments tomorrow include adoption and a new bill or modification and hopefully a shrinkage of the existing bill that it is true medical liability reform, because that's the only way we save lives and save money and bend that cost curve down in the right direction. with thos