what can congress do to plane that the epa? >> not appropriate funding for one thing. >> power of the purse. >> power of the purse, strongest bet. and what bothers me the most about this so-called clean power plan, this new push by the epa, when they first pushed it out, they didn't even want any dialogue with the coal industry. they finally have started to have some so-called town hall meeting to find out exactly how this plan would be implement pd and how the coal manufacturers and electricity producers can adapt to it. it's that -- that attitude, that contempt that obama has filtered to the epa. >> true. >> it's all his way or the highway. >> sabrina, like global warming. you know? i'm sorry. the argument's over. there's a scientific argument over. no discussing with people like that? >> and a lot of the issues we're talking about today. mike's right. we don't want to see -- we all want a clean environment, and coal is becoming cleaner, becoming more sustainable. and all of these efforts to sort of invest in wind and thermal

the epa has a lot of opportunities to work with china. i believe one of the reasons china has really begun to step up on climate change is because of the broader demand they have. of you may know, the epa has been working hand-in-hand with both china and many levels to try to provide technical assistance monitor the m revolution. you just need to take a look at the technologies they are selling in china, either take a at the monitoring equipment in beijing. those are all us companies doing really good business. we continue to online the that youid a few times don't -- you're not going to tailor the clean air act rules this. but you have come up with a fairly specific range of targets. so does the white house already know what policies will be that? to get to to get to those targets? and what can you tell us about policies? >> the white house and the interagency effort has been toking at what is reasonable achieve under a variety of the climate action plan. they are also looking at what in voluntary efforts that might be appropriate to cons

regular rations have placed a crippling -- >> the justices will hear a case challenging the epa'swer in the spring. specifically whether the agency must take costs into account when crafting broad new regulations. meanwhile the white house christmas tree has been delivered. first lady michelle obama welcomed the douglas fur from pennsylvania. it will be on display in the blue room. >> holiday shopping, tags and the overall picture, we will talk about it all with the panel when we come back. and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal. come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. along with diet and exercise, farxiga h

grabs, native alaskan groups in bristol bay are hoping the epa bristol bay are hoping the epa will put a stop to the mine. will put a stop to the mine. each summer the salmon return to each summer the salmon return to bristol bay. bristol bay. each summer native alaskans come each summer native alaskans come to catch them. to catch them. >> pull it to get your slack. >> pull it to get your slack. >> this >> this subsistence fishing will subsistence fishing will help sustain kim williams and help sustain kim williams and her family through long alaskan her family through long alaskan winter. winter. >> why is the pebble mine a bad >> why is the pebble mine a bad idea in your view? idea in your view? >> every mine that we've looked >> every mine that we've looked at where they've had a miner at where they've had a miner where they've said that no toxic where they've said that no toxic waste will go through this waste will go through this liner, they all leak, it's in liner, they all leak, it's in the wrong the wrong location it's up where location it's up where fish spawn and it's bad fo

i think that the epa is taking an aggressive stance. of what we will see play for the supreme court is whether or not the epa is treating costs as an important factor in in control. manner. that litigation is the challenge that the epa needs to consider, even though it was not specifically in the clean air act, because it was an important factor. may be they can go constrained. >> how consequential will it lead to future epa rulings, christine, if the supreme court forces a rollback? to say with ozone. back in 2010 and 2011, when they initially proposed statements of ozone, deferred coincidentally before an election campaign for president, you saw very much higher cost themate for this rule, in order of magnitude of $90 billion. about six and 13 depending on how aggressive they get. one of the things we're looking at is how they reduce the cost numbers. epa is proposing what appears to be a less costly rule, we are trying to dig into it and find out what is behind it. if they can defend the lower cost estimate, the rule does not look as

the d.c. circuit. that epa rt held rationally decided that it was not an air pollutant and that policy ere good regulations not regulated. took the case -- the supreme court resolved that the definition of air pollutant was to include carbon dioxide, and that the clean air act actually requires not only protection of public health, but also of welfare. curiously enough, was defined even back in the early 1970's. that draws carbon dioxide into the statute. even though it may not be something that is harmful to breathe, the fact that it can affect climate and weather has to hat the epa regulate it if they find that there is scientific evidence. >> can you talk about the epa the department of justice during the obama administration? >> absolutely. the obama administration took it to heart. i think even the bush administration to the dart. and -- to heart. and they began finding -- they decided to do in advance all notice rule so that they can think about it more and kick the question to the next to ministration. t

join the conversation. next, epa administrator gina mccarthy talks to reporters about the obama administration's environmental policy. she is asked if she thinks if the incoming congress will try to limit the epa. mccarthy spoke at a forum hosted by the christian science monitor. >> here we go. i'm from "the monitor." our guest this morning is gina mccarthy. her last visit with our group was in september, 2013. we thank her for being here. she graduated from the university of massachusetts with a degree in social anthropology. primitive cultures was a great training for government work. she went on to graduate with environmental health planning. she began her career in 1980. from there, she went on to positions of increasing influence of the environmental field, first in massachusetts where she got appointed by two governments who shared little else in common. she moved to slightly south in 2004 to become head of connecticut's epa. president obama nominated her to be the assistant administrator in 2009, where she ear

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call the epa. 95% nonessential. i was jumping up and down. most of government is not essential. however, i spoke to close soon. these are crafty devils, i tell you. why with a list 95% of the people for not being essential? during at have to work shutdown, but you get to be paid. this has to be the definition of dysfunctional government. it costs more to keep it closed then open. ronald reagan used to tell a story. the closest thing to immortality is a government program. ad he told the story of british civil servant. this civil-service job was created in 1803. thee was a guy to stand on cliffs of dover into ring a bell coming.w napoleon they got rid of it in 1944. it is hard to get rid of a program. you think you cannot save money? if you simply do not rehired the people who retire, you would save $6 billion a year. it would be enormous. a discussion over the essential and nonessential employees, and i forget which committee it was, but in the house, they investigated epa, and they found that there was a woman who had not been to work in 20 years. she had not communicated with w

certifiedimproperly or incorrect information was provided to the epa. there was no valid certification of those cars. the companies have corrected economyta, there fuel figures as well as the greenhouse gas emission figures. they are paying a penalty, giving up credits, and fixing their system going for word. carsis doesn't address the themselves. >> the cars will remain on the road. they were not over the limit. the problem was they were misrepresented as having better fuel economy than the actually had. >> why no rebates for consumers? the rebatepy for program? >> they have a rebate program that has been effect resulting in several hundreds of millions of dollars going to the consumers. consumers have brought multiple class actions against the company that are pending. through those two forms we expect consumers to get robust relief. >> there are three other companies that have had to restate mileage in much the same way as hyundai and kia. where does enforcement stand with those? >> i don't think i am in a position to give you the exact status of all

he is the head of epa's enforcement office. i want to recognize phil brooks who has done tremendous work here. he runs our air enforcement division and i also want to congratulate jana mckay and chris on the whole team at epa for working so hard to make good on our rules that epa so creatively and so effectively works with this community to put in place. so thanks everybody for this. first of all the light duty vehicle rule and let me remind everybody was the first time epa actually acted to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. we acted under the clean air act. we were addressing vehicle emissions because it is essential to our commitment to fight climate change. this case and this settlement actually delivers on the commitment of that rulemaking because when we hold companies accountable to accurate testing through honest reporting we can ensure that the real emissions reduction that we attempted to achieve and be expected to achieve are actually delivered to the american public because when we hold them accountable, we actually

and must be forthcoming about forthcoming with the epa about critical certification requirements-- and that the u.s. department of justice will never rest in our determination to protect american consumers. we are announcing today that the united states has filed a complaint in federal district court alleging that hyundai motor america, kia motors america, and related entities violated the clean air act by selling roughly 1.2 million cars -- throughout the united states -- based on inaccurate representations of the vehicle'' performance and emissions. for context, beginning in 2012, hyundai and kia, like all other light duty car makers, had to meet certain greenhouse gas emission limits. these emissions correlate with the fuel efficiency of a vehicle -- because, in essence, the more fuel efficient your car happens to be, in miles per gallon, the less greenhouse gas it emits. the clean air act requires car manufacturers to test representative vehicles in order to ensure that they meet emission standards. these manufacturers then must apply to the environmental protection agency for what

and that is certainly true, according to the epa records, in data. and in the california resources board data for petroleum fuel and i think that it is important for us to realize that if we have a specific number in an ordinance like this, it probably should either identify it as pet trol um feel or if we drop a number it makes it broad enough there that it applies to any types of fuel, even some that are cleaner like compressed natural gas and electricity for the evs which have dramatically lower greenhouse gas emission component. the enforcement of the label and authorizes enforcement, i would app that there are other departments and agencies within the government, and the city government, that currently do have enforcement activists with gas stations, and are, and they have processes of doing inspections and we might want to think about that as a place where actually placing the enforcement or the activity it is currently under 100 gas stations, and for the context for you somewhere between 70 and 90, and depending on which department records are

i was wondering if the epa factors that into its policies. recent studies say climate is less sensitive to co2 then maybe we thought in the 1990's. 15-18 years. i was wondering if the epa factors that into its policies. recent studies say climate is less sensitive to co2 then maybe we thought in the 1990's. is that something you take into account the future rules? >> we work with the u.s. government to take a look at these factors, but i want to ake a lot of time on that. that is a short-lived issue that does not represent climate on a longer-term basis, and it represents one factor, when there are so many others. most of which are looking like they are accelerating at levels we did not anticipate, as opposed to being more moderate. if you look at the entire science record, we are looking at all of those issues, but nothing tells us that we are being overly aggressive in understanding the actions we need to take, or the impacts of doing nothing on climate. >> thank you for doing this. we appreciate it. >> you are welcome. thanks, everybody. >>

the epa will recommend lowering the standard. states would have up to 20 years to meet new limits or face penalties. american petroleum institute said they should maintain their current standards. >>> what we are learning about the public service for marion barry and when a final skrbgs will be revealed into pulling the >>> welcome back at 4:39. crews will begin inflating huge balloons like hello kitty, my girls's favorite. watch the 88th annual macy's thanksgiving day parade tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. >> washington business journal reports two committees approved a plan by muriel bowser. the new plan allows the council to use eminent domain to buy land for a new d.c. united stadium. the district will have to pay half of the $300 million price tag. >>> well, you won't be seeing rg3 this sunday for the redskins. diana rosini colt mccoy will get the start. he has faced criticism through much of the season. >> so there's been a lot of tuck about whether or not colts should have been benched in the first place. after he took over, he had

he's even suing the epa for going too far on the o existing regulations. what do you think about this china deal? >> i think it's terrible for america. it is another attack, david. on low cost, electricity, and reliable electricity in our country. first, the deal basically requires china to do nothing until 2030, and then it's not clear then. yetyet he asks the united states to reduce carbon dioxide. people should not buy this. from his democratic supporters. this is an attack on low cost electricity in america. it is an attack on any businessman or manufacturer in this country that is creating jobs in this country to export a product into the global marketplace. this is insanity, sir. david: you have an energy company. murray energy. you know about the energy business. were you consulted or do you know about any other energy company -- before the president announces this so-called deal? >> president obama has never consulted me ever on any issue, notwithstanding that i believe i'm an expert on the cost and reliability of electric power in this country. ne

the epa is now moving forward under the deadline. under this plan the current level over eight hours would fall between 65 and 70 parts per billion. compliance costs will hit as high as $15 billion. $38 billion annually. it was discussed during this conference call with reporters. >> ozone poses a real threat to our home -- our health, especially to growing children and older americans and those of us with heart or lung conditions or who are actively working outside. the result of being exposed can be disruptive, expensive, frightening, and tragic. >> mccarthy says that that is why the epa needs to move forward with the air quality programs nationally to meet these new targets without making major changes in their programs. >> all right, so clearly not everyone agrees with that. if there were not major changes, there would not be how about, right? >> there is significant hubbub. everyone.g to affect coal and chemical plants, industry groups ripping into the plan, saying the cost estimates are off target when you factor other regulato

find a reasonable solution i spent a lot of my summer traveling to baseball games and reading about the epa and the ph levels as far as what i've read about the cleans up and ph h is essentially tar roads and roofs and tar is pretty common substance in our lives and tar in other words, to trap and ski clubs is mainly a hazard when you have fertile animals and wild pigs i don't know know if we have wild pigs in san francisco essentially unless you have wild pigs eating the clay fragments the epa doesn't find them thirty to be a problem so unless we have wide pigs eating them this may not be a problem to be cleaned up at a tune of 15 to $20 million thank you. >> thank you. >> my name is frank swan i'm a resident of san francisco and fee taxpayer in that capacity primarily addressing the commission but i am a member of the pacific rodman gun club my main complaint with the declaration started up in the report is that it is based on a report that was incomplete and concluded there were not enough existing data to demonstrate the soil contaminates identified at the site it doesn't conclude they

light duty vehicle role was the first time the epa acted to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. we acted under the clean air act. we were addressing the vehicle emissions because it is toential to our commitment fight climate change. and the settlement actually delivers on the commitment of that rulemaking. when we hold companies accountable through accurate testing and through honest reporting we can ensure the real emissions reductions that we attempted to 15 and expected to achieve are actually delivered for the american public. when we hold them accountable we actually make good on our promise to consumers that they know what they are buying and they are going to get the emission reductions and clean vehicles they are intending to purchase. under president obama's leadership the epa and dot historic greenhouse gas and fuel economy standards are cutting carbon pollution that you'll our changing climate and they are saving families money at the pump. we know fuel efficiency cells, there is no question about it. it is the number one factor that consumers think about when they ar

the epa will make it -- between the epa, obamacare, and that minimum wage, you make it almost impossible to hire a young person in south carolina. take on the education of bureaucracy. >> gosh, i cannot let that go. i have to ask about a comic here -- obamacare. it is one thing to put a computer on a child's desk or in ipad. but if they cannot access the internet when they get home -- we have to look at the technology it would take to make sure our children have the technological needs. we do have the benefit of having a great college system in the state. we need to make sure they are fully funded. >> fixing education or the skills gap. >> we are doing a good job there. i think tim scott has been terrific. trying to great a sense of herpes, the duplication is just incredible. at the end of the day when a school fails your kid, do something about it. let's not talk up throwing money at it. parents are lining up around the school where they're allowed -- private education. first person my family to go to challenge. do not allow the teachers unions to basically stop progress. the kids are t

the epa estimates are if you reduce it just another five points, it's going to cost 4 billion. you know down another 5, it's going to cost 15. and the national institutes of manufacturing says if you go down another 60, it will cost e another 280 billi$280 billion. let me give you an example, if i wanted to reduce highway deaths 33,000 a year. i would say let's reduce speed limits by 20 miles an hour. i guarantee you will save lives. let's go to a maximum speed limit of 20 miles an hour tops. we don't do it, because the cost, to the -- they're making a choice, science is speaking here, these are overzealous regulators who are trying to achieve numbers that are abstract and it's not worth the additional cost. >> you cannot do a federal regulation without measuring the total of the cost and the affect on it. >> i think charles ask right about this epa regulation, although it is true that the ozone regulations in the 90s were imposed and the sky didn't follow as critics said. but getting to that farther, getting farther down the field, it is more costly, it is more difficult. i th

schoumacher: the epa's plan wasn't greeted with much enthusiasm. ld have been a federal disaster area. it would be as bad as a hurricane or a flood or an earthquake. to tell the people they can't use their automobiles to go to work or to go to school or to go to church is crazy. the chamber of commerce out there calculated that 400,000 jobs would be lost and there would be billions of dollars in adverse effect to the economy. had epa made any kind of calculation on that? under the clean air act, we were not allowed to take that into account in announcing a transportation or a land use control that would achieve the standard. removing that number of cars would have just devastated it -- economically. the air would have been cleaner, but there wouldn't have been -- people wouldn't have been able to get to the hospitals and other things. what was the philosophy behind the law that said, "we don't want to count cost"? the philosophy is just as i stated at the outset, that we thought we knew what the bad pollutants were, that we knew how to measure them,

the mining company says the epa's conclusion is scientifically unsound and actions illegal. since the company has not filed for a permit. it has filed several lawsuits against the agency. as strongly as native groups in the bristol bay area oppose the mine others closer to the site support it. lisa rhymers is the ceo of the company. >> you sold and delivered fuel to the pebble partnership right? >> yes. >> how was business? >> business was going well. >> rhymer's company sells fuel and runs construction equipment. biggest employer at pebble at one point providing 100 workers to the site. >> there are people who live in these villages that need jobs and not everybody goes fishing. >> the village with 100 year round residents is typical of the small communities that dot the interior of alaska. job opportunities are scarce. winters brutally harsh with little opportunity for subsistence hunting or fishing. >> what happens to this community if this mine doesn't go forward? >> if this mine is not built we're starting to look at that question. is it going to shut down like the other

. >>> today, the epa will propose tight are new guidelines for ozone in the area which is a pollution that caused difficulty breathing and especially tough on people with lung disease like asthma and copd. states are allowed to have 70 parts per billion in the air but the new proposal is 65 parts per billion which president obama promised during the first white house campaign. the epa will take public comments until february when officials will decide if they will implement the plan. >>> if the holiday get away is taking you east be ready for big delays. next at 5:00 a.m. the storm that is forcing airlines to cancel hundreds flights at key airports. >> a new law oakland leaders will consider that could have the city saying good by to the circus. >> i-80's traffic in berkeley is heavy if this time of day. we keep you on top of weather and traffic and break news and traffic and break news during the co ♪ [instrumental music] ♪ you've been part of this family for as long as i can remember. and you just mean so much to all of us. the holidays wouldn't be the same without your crescent rol

like adding re lakeses to the epa. the regular layings on coal-fired power plants the most important thing the government is doing right now. the biggest part of the obama domestic policy legacy since he was rodriguez elected and those regulations are set to reduce emissions and could permanently alter the trajectory of american power generation towards renewables and away from coal and the carbon pollution that is threatening mass catastrophe and all civilized life, and that, that signature achievement, hangs perilously in the balance. that's very much on the ballot tomorrow. the republicans have told you it is. joining me now is senator shell don whitehouse. you work in the united states senate. i want to hear from you, given the fact that very little seems to get dub, given nance consent, the filibuster, all the way from the minority to block and obstruct, how much does it matter for sheldon whitehouse when he wake up the day after the republicans control the senate and goes into work? >> well, it matters a lot. i si

the epa is dpopped to finalize the rule. mitch mcconnell is vowing to block or overturn the entire group of rules. the epa suffering a defeat after a federal judge put on hold the agency's plan to veto the pebble mine in alaska's bristol bay. that's the victory for the mine supporters battling to keep that job going. major headaches for millions of americans attempting to make the holiday get away. mother nature is not cooperating on one of the busiest traveling days of the year. janice has our forecast live from the fox extreme weather station. >> it is. living up to its name. we do have this coastal storm that is bringing a lo . >> we have the nor'easter that is bringing a lot of rain and wind and snow. here's what it looks like, philadelphia light rain, rain and snow, mixture in new york. cloudy conditions in boston, but we have seen a mixture of rain and snow in this area. airport delay, a lot of them, in some cases, hour, two hours, three hour delays. newark a two-hour delay there. and philadelphia the storm is exiting

he works for the cia and the epa. really? so they went to the cia, and , and theyjonathan said jonathan who? never heard of him. he had lied for 11 years and was just not showing up. so i imagine this guy with a swimming pool because he makes $100,000 per year, and his boss calls and says, jonathan, are you coming in? i am in istanbul. a secret assignment. this is your government from top to bottom. recently, you might have heard about ebola. anybody not heard about ebola? so when something bad happens, and government does have a responsibility, they say republicans did not give us enough money. the last 10 years, the nih got $40 billion just for infectious disease. do you know how much they spent on ebola? less than 1% of that. do you know how much they spent on condoms? million on condoms at the nih. they spent $939,000 trying to determine whether male fruit flies like a younger female fruit flies. during out a possible answer to that one. determining117,000 that monkeys like to throw things with their right hand and that mo

so, again, that's latest on the settlement between the justice department and the epa. barbara, back to you. >> thank you, richard. now to a developing story. federal aviation investigators say virgin galactic's experimental spaceship broke apart in space after a device to slow the plane's decent prematurely depldeployed. the fda said it was activated before the craft reached the appropriate sps are still tryin to figure out what caused friday's crash. >> a long way from finding cause. we still have months and months of investigation to go. a lot that we don't know. we have extensive data sources to go through. >> the crash killed one pilot and injured another. the two were the sole occupants of the spacecraft designed to take up to six people on sightseeing flights to the edge of space. >>> and right now, president obama's working at the white house following a mechanical problem that forced him to switch planes on the campaign trail. last night, there was a problem with one of the flaps on air force one in philadelphia. the president switched to a backup plane and it l

the epa scientific advisory board said that it should be stricter. it should go deeper. the obama administration is following up these years later. they're likely to see it comes down to 65 or 70 parts per billion. now here are the county's across the country that will be the most impacted. they'll be given a significant amount of time to retrofit factories and try to get a cleaner burning technology in place. these are just proposals this this point. >> to see what this looks like, parts per billion. what has been the reaction in washington for the proposed rules. >> the significant thing about the part per billion. it is coming down, but not nearly as much as environmentals want to see. they actually see that this should be reduced even more to 60 parts per billion. environmentalists say it should go deeper. the push back comes from industry. it comes from republicans, groups like the at the petroleum institute saying that pollution is improving across the country, so there is no need for regulations, and republicans already vowing to fight it. house speaker john boehne

the ballot measure aside the epa the ballot measure aside the epa tells "america tonight" that it tells "america tonight" that it will issue its restrictions will issue its restrictions sometime between january 2nd sometime between january 2nd at the earliest and february at the earliest and february 4th of 2015. 4th of 2015. keep in mind the agency may not keep in mind the agency may not decide to issue any restrictions decide to issue any restrictions at all but insiders say at all but insiders say the the likelihood of that is extremely likelihood of that is extremely rare. rare. joie. joie. >> michael, a very big senate >> michael, a very big senate race is also underway in alaska. race is also underway in alaska. how is the pebble mine going to how is the pebble mine going to impact that race? impact that race? >> reporter: well, you know, >> reporter: well, you know, it's really unclear at this it's really unclear at this point. point. what we know is since 1964 what we know is since 1964 alaska has been a pretty red alaska has been a pretty red state but 54% of the electorate sta

are you suggesting that you would find a way to defund the epa? er we need to do to do what is right by thh american people. >> does that include the funding that epa? >> what we will do is develop a strategy. who knows what the president we will see if we really hear him say what he means. >> if you put on his desk a pill that can defund, you know he will defund that bill. supporters?nough democratic have you done the number crunching? >> much of the legislation that -@we have already passed, stop e war on cold. i do believe. >> is it vetoed? >> we can suspect that the president will veto. i do not know if we can deal with a hypothetical. we now have control of the senate. are they going to be willing to continue to saddle up ith this president's war on cold? i am not sure we can count on that. i think we may find some help. >> interesting. a lot of work for the republicans. in. >> you either love it or you hate it. now mcdonald revealing exactly how it makes that sandwich. is that good or not? that is next. >> we have a boneless pork which is the

what about james inhofe said he will do everything in his power to reign in and shed light on the epa'scked regulations what do you have to say to senator inhofe. >> we have a fundamental disagreement. we know we need to take action on climate change. we know it is the biggest threat to our virm and our economy. to oenvironment and economy. we can do it under executive authority. in fact epa is responsible for doing this because carbon pollution is a significant threat to public health. we can make this happen without having to rely on senator inhofe changing his opinion. we will work with him as best we can but we know we have a big task here and we're going to get at it. >> if these guys aren't going to do anything is the administration going to go over their head? >> well the numbers we've talked about in reaching this joint announcement are numbers we can achieve with the rules that are under way at epa, with volume sta voluntary actions knowing the business community and our states are ready to take action we're going to move forward and deliver these reductions and protect public

sources and footnotes and i don't think if this flies for the city stuff like this, but we mentioned the epa twice and no one cares where the data is coming from unless they are going to go down and read the fine print and you might as well throw it into the fine print and put the gist of the message up front and who it came from later. the icon needs to be incretibly compelling, and as just another point, and another example on this, my 3-year-old loves the chevron cars and loves them, you have a lot to go up against. and so you know, there are years and years and years of you know getting to see fun things on the other side and so i think that making it as compelling of an icon as possible is important. and finally, offering an alternative action, in an easy manner. is imperative and you need to do this and you need to use your light bulb less often if you don't give an option to make the life easy or easier they are not going to do it. >> i don't think that asking someone to get in the car and write down a url is not a good option and i think that we put, and i know that people are lookin

. >> and are the policies you look at epa explicit about that prohibition? >> they are not explicit about the prohibition. >> they are not? >> right, that was part of our recommendation in the report is that they be more explicit about the issues of gym memberships and gift cards, that they need to improve controls there. epa is in the process of improving their policies in that area, but they have not completed their policies in that area. >> that doesn't sound complicated. what goes through one one's mind if you have a federally issued credit card and decide i need groceries tonight. why not just put it on the government card? i'm not saying anyone has ever done that, but clearly some alarm bell ought to go off in your head that's not a proper use of a government-issued credit card. >> normally, you would expect most people to think that, but there are people out there that think, no one is looking at this, let me use this. >> temptation is a different issue, that's right. and i look forward to the epa's prohibition. it's amazing to me, mr. chairman, they d

he works for the cia and the epa. really? so they went to the cia, and they said jonathan, and they said jonathan who? never heard of him. he had lied for 11 years and was just not showing up. so i imagine this guy with a swimming pool because he makes $100,000 per year, and his boss calls and says, jonathan, are you coming in? i am in istanbul. [laughter] a secret assignment. this is your government from top to bottom. recently, you might have heard about ebola. anybody not heard about ebola? so when something bad happens, and government does have a responsibility, they say republicans did not give us enough money. the last 10 years, the nih got $40 billion just for infectious disease. do you know how much they spent on ebola? less than 1% of that. do you know how much they spent on condoms? $2 million on condoms at the nih. they spent $939,000 trying to determine whether male fruit flies like a younger female fruit flies. during out a possible answer to that one. they spent $117,000 determining that monkeys like to throw thi

. >>> the epa is expected to propose tighter restrictions on a common air pollutant. the epa apparently wants to lower the limit for ground level ozone to 65 or 70 parts per billion. that's down from a 75 parts per billion standard set back in 2008. the move would fulfill a campaign promise by president obama. >>> time now 4:42. it's the day before thanksgiving. and if you're trying to get around the bay, good luck. how slow the roads are expected to move. >>> what's cool about your school? email your nominations to us at coolschools@kpix.com. we may come and feature your school on the show. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, travel. a st information firm >>> san francisco is ranked as one of the worst places in the country for thanksgiving travel. a study says it will take 34% longer to travel this afternoon than usual. only los angeles and portland rank worse than san francisco, worst time to travel today between 3 and 4 p.m. >>> holiday travelers along much of the east coast will have to con tepid with a snowstorm. the more easter could dump up a foot of snow on s

not allow the vote because she is opposed to having a vote on the epa. i respect that and i respect her and everyone knows that is the truth. harry reid didn't want the vote to come up because one or two members of the caucus had a serious issue this being voted on. i knew that. and there is a part of the team and i try to be part of the team but i knew that the results of the election with the senator mcconnell winning and some of the senators, unfortunately my dearest friends loosing, that we had an opportunity. and i took that opportunity. i called for this vote. not harry reid. not mitch mcconnell. i called for it. i think it is worth fighting for it. i am telling you the last thing i want to say. thanksgiving and christmas are coming up and it is a shame that this congress hasn't delivered more in the last 5-6 years for the middle class. we say we try. i am not sure we are trying hard enough. so i am going to lead by example. it was the way i was raised. we are going to try today. one of the first debates i have been in in eight years at least where

position has been this is a sidebar issue, the big deal things he's doing on the climate change or the epa regulars or the agreement with china. but keystone is a nothing burger. when you look at the state accident preliminary review, they don't say anything bad about it either. so i don't really understand how this has become potentially the first veto fight of the new -- even though they're not sworn in yet. >> republicans want to have democrats on record because -- i understand what they're doing, but taking a step back, and looking at this more broadly, this is such a -- you have this mad scramble to add up votes to authorize the pipeline that's already been approved by the state department a handful of times. the president is likely to veto this anyway. it was always in his authority to approve or disapprove it, whether it's in the national interest, that was his determination to make, and it's all the help a senator, who wants to pretend that she's been very active on energy issues when she hasn't been very active on energy issues and it's going to have no bearing on ultimately wheth

. >> the environmental protection agency. >> epa. >> epa, there you go. >> let's shut down the federal. >> the energy revolution. >> the energy boom sthaz going on in america is real. >> when you say energy these days people think of the key stone pipe line. >> the key stone pipe line. >>> good to have you with us tonight folks. thanks for watching. after last week's results that tuesday night it took about 30 seconds for this to sink in. republicans have control of congress and sights are set on destroying everything president obama is trying to implement and favor big oil. that's where we're going first up. the new republican leadership made it clear the future leader says america needs to, now get this, embrace the energy revolution. >> we need to embrace the energy revolution that is going on in our country, promote it. it's hugely add vantageous to america, not only to energy pend ens but employment. >> that was november fifth. that was one for the archives. i'm going to save that one. nothing about wind. nothing about solar. nothing about conservation. it is still about oil. the

today the epa proposed strict new standards on smog pollution. and while some say the regulations will save lives, others say it's going to cost money and too many jobs. >> epa says cleaner air comes with a price. critics say the price too is high and they plan to fight it. hello, clean air. good-bye, smog. the epa's tough new policy is aimed at slashing pollution over the next decade limiting ozone pollution to a range of 65 to 70 parts per billion, down from 75 parts per billion set by president george w. bush in 2008. >> these standards are really important. they will really make a difference in the lives of millions of people as we drive down air pollution. help people live healthier, happier lives. >> reporter: the government estimates it can prevent 4,000 deaths and hundreds of thousands of asthma attacks a year. manufacturers say that's a small number compared to hundreds of thousands of jobs that would be lost if this regulation is enforced. many of those jobs would be in the midwest, in coal-producing states. >> yes, let's protect clean a

you can see a map of all the injection wells as well as read the epa's full letter and the state's fulle, plus the full statement from the western states petroleum association. it's all on our website. just go to nbcbayarea.com. we'll keep watching this issue as well. raj, jessica. >> thank you, steven. if you have a tip or steech or anyone on our investigative unit, call or send an e-mail. >>> let's bring in our chief meteorologist. our weekend is here. it has been a long week. >> it has been a long, long week. we have an active pattern out in the pacific right now. there are several different storm dims that are forming. we are going to be on the cusp of rainfall. but over the next hours there are going to be mainly high clouds passing over the state of california. right now, temperatures on the cooler side. widespread 50s here. tomorrow morning we don't expect too money of that to clear. i don't expect a big fog event in the south bay throughout san jose. partly sunny to start. on the cold said, 48 degrees. chilly in the east bay, 47, and down to 46 in the north bay. let's get your s

now he is trying to do it through the epa. is is an administration- created depression in eastern kentucky. giving barack obama another vote in the senate, continuing this democratic majority in the senate is not going to do anything to improve america's economy, and certainly not kentucky's economy. >> we will address coal and we will address the economy. senator mcconnell, one in four kentucky children live in poverty. why? >> because we have not had the kinds of growth and opportunity -- i keep saying the same thing over and over again -- but the economy is very sick. even though unemployment appears to go down, the number of people looking for work is the same number of people you had in the carter administration. it is the labor participation rate. it tells you a lot of people have dropped out. we need to lift people up. the only way to do that is through a vibrant private sector. this administration has been a disaster at getting our economy going. it has been doubly acute here in kentucky -- because of the assault on the

some saying there is a wrath of rules coming down from the epa, republicans will have control of the upper chamber land try to unwind all of that progress. shouldn't the president ensure republicans stand down on epa regulations, wouldn't that be in great service to the environment a better move for him. >> i think people who think that way are pretty naive as i hope you and the viewers know, republicans have cast hundreds of philibusters in the last six years against all kinds of legislation against working people and the environment. i have zero reason to doubt that no matter what he does on keystone pipeline i certainly hope he vetoes. they will continue to go against the epa and continue to represent the big oil and big energy companies against the needs of the american people and our environment. >> i know you're not a betting man but this is a pretty big cliff hanger. nobody knows this will gain passage. if you had to bet money which way would you go. >> i think very, very close. i think that decision is not made up to this moment. they have 59 votes and are desperately looking