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before he could organize the ku klux klan. one wonders if in fact a harsher peace might not have, in the end, brought about a more lasting and just peace. it is at least something to speculate. one of the models is the reconstruction of germany. after the second world war, the german people had no doubts what the cause was, at least for -- what the cost was, at least for their highest leaders, of war crimes. while wirz is a war criminal, he is a low-level war criminal. there were others. >> the picture that you showed to begin were taken of people after the camp had been liberated. how much was known by the northern public or the government about andersonville and what was happening before? >> i don't know. the histories are in dispute on this. there are not people being exchanged out of andersonville. while there are some people escaping and there are rumors going on -- but i don't know -- >> my second comment to that you discussed the ladies and their vegetables. how much was known in and around andersonville? >> enough to kn

people across the country have been reportedly finding bags of candy with fliers urging them to join the ku klux klan. some say the kkk is stepping up recruitment in the wake of events that increase racial tension in america like the shooting of michael brown in ferguson, mo joining us now is an anti hate and anti-racist singer. and ryan is still with us. so ryan, we have seen a recent surge in some of these attacks associated with white sue friend is a, a shooting at a aish community served, a shooting at a jewish nursing home where another person is killed. is there a revival right now in the white supremacy movement? >> absolutely. hate groups from the racist right have been climbing steadily. last year they shrunk slightly. but without a doubt they are on a rise. there are reasons for this. we believe that these groups are growing as a result of changing demographics in the country . a discomfort in that reality. >> there is data to back that up. all study that looked at deadly attacks and looked at what they called deadly jihadist attacks had killed 29 people since 9/11. and right wing

party that the late senator brird was actually the senate leader in and he was a former member of the kulan. >> your response? >> well ari, look as i said all along, it would be up to mr. cole and the other members of the house republican conference to decide who they said to serve in their leadership. they're going to have to decide if they're going to elevate somebody who described himself -- this is not me taking a cheap shot. he described himself as david duke without the baggage. they was certainly somebody ecelebritied by the people of louisiana, or at least the people from hi congressional district. now we'll hear from house republicans about whether they think he should be the leadership. they'll have to also decide what kind of signal that sends about what house republican priorities and values are. that's an open question. . i don't get a vote in the conference, but mr. cole and his checks do and they'll ultimately make that decision on their own. >> what specifically about his argument regarding the historical role of the senator byrd in leadership and that's a point you've he

when i look at who i would defend, i mean, i would defend the ku klux klan to march. at's something in the united states that has definitely had an awful history, but, you know, even though i don't agree with them and i did he say spies them and everything they stand for, i feel idiots should be able to say what they want. >> one of the problems about being a cartoonist is that sometimes people expect us to include every single issue in every single cartoon. if somebody says to me that the pen versus the sword is inappropriate here, i don't think that's the case. i think the pen versus the sword is perfectly appropriate. on the other hand, as a cartoonist, i want to be looked at in terms of the continuum of my work, so i've personally done many many cartoons criticizing western violence against many people in the middle east, but you can't put every single thing into every cartoon. what happens is that people will judge a particular cartoon and say well, that cartoon is leaving out a big issue. perhaps it is, but hopefully you're going to pick that up in another cartoo

today prosecutors used a link to the ku klux klan to keep him locked up. northern virginia bureau chief julie carey is talking with some of those closest to this case and joins us live from the neighborhood on news4 at 5:00. >>> two d.c. city government employees under investigation accused of swipe tharg tax-pair funded purchase cards to buy gas for their personal cars. scott mcfarlane broke the news online a short while ago and has details. >>> law enforcement officials say it's two fire department employmentey who is drive government cars that are under investigation for this theft. one of those employees a female official with d.c. fire, is akutzed of buying $11,000 worth of gas for personal use with her government card. that includes the bp and exxon stations on pennsylvania avenue southeast. those purchases were captured by surveillance cameras and reviewed by investigators. in a second case, a male d.c. fire employee acued of swiping his card for gas for hi personal lexus and alternating the odometer readings on his cars when making those purchases t

he notes when the ku klux klan was building crosses on the front yards of black families we didn't condemn all christians. he doesn't want to see all muslims condemned because there's a radical strain here. this debate no practicing muslim believes any of this radical jihad is somehow islam. it seems to be a growing strain. the question is what do you do about it. right now talking seems to be the best answer. >>> we just heard the president speak in india about his drone-based counterterrorism strategy. yet he defended it. we have new developments out of yemen with the resignation of the prime minister and the president. is this indeed a setback? >> definitely a setback. dennis mcdonagh the white house chief of staff tries to defend the strategy and he kreets a straw man and say wes ear not going to go back to a full fledged military occupation of these countries. at the same time when you look at syria today and you think afghanistan 2001 when you look at yemen today and think afghanistan 2001 the white house will argue they're on top of this in a way that nobody was on top of it back in

i mean, when the head of the ku klux klan, when all these weird groups, come out in favor of the candidate my party made a bad mistake in san francisco. and i'm going to have to vote against that mistake on the 3rd of november. >> the stakes are too high for you to stay home. >> funding for "bombs away" was provided by... additional support was provided by the following... ♪ doesn't really matter if you're old and gray ♪ ♪ it's all right, i say it's okay ♪ ♪ listen to what i say ♪ it's all right, doing fine ♪ ♪ doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine ♪ ♪ it's all right, i say it's okay ♪ ♪ we're gettin' to the end of the day ♪ standing: well played, junior! now give it and go. right wing, right wing. go, go. you all right, son? gerry? i'm okay, granddad. are you sure? good boy, you're playing well. keep it up. come on, son. go in hard, what we spoke about!

emanuel ransom: when i first came to clarkston the ku klux klan used to march in front of my house.ia hinojosa: today, small-town georgia has changed in some unexpected ways. we're sisters, you know, we were separated at birth. hinojosa: now whites are in the minority in clarkston, and it's home to refugees from over 40 different countries. graham thomas: you wonder if i've got any buddies anymore that think the way i do. should white america be afraid of becoming a minority? this is the new america-- black, brown, asian, lgbt, immigrants. the country is going through a major demographic shift and the numbers show it. the face of the u.s. has changed. christina ibanez: we're american. we care about the same things. but yet we also want to preserve our culture. i just see it destroying what we had planned to happen here. hinojosa: by 2043, we will be a majority non-white nation. norm gissel: we are making, as we speak

by saying that extremism could be a good thing, he was basically opening the door to the birchers and leftover kund the pale. >> the head of the georgia klan came out for your ticket. do you accept their support? >> we don't want the backing of the ku klux klan. >> that's a different kind of extremist, and my father would have none of it. >> a thoughtful address by ronald reagan. >> thank you. i have spent most of my life as a democrat. i recently have seen fit to follow another course. >> ronald reagan was an actor, but it was in 1964 that suddenly he explodes on to the national scene as a political figure because he gives the speech. >> in this vote harvesting time they use terms like "the great society," or as we were told a few days ago by the president, we must accept a greater government activity in the affairs of the people. barry goldwater has faith that you and i have the ability and the dignity and the right to make our own decisions. >> the campaign was always run optimistically. and when ronald reagan hit it out of the ballpark with his speech, we just knew we were going to win. >> ac

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. >> here is a club of the ku klux klan bringing gus to justice. let's watch. [video clip] >> trotter and the other protesters were appalled by the film. >> the lieutenant of her was the mulatto. >> silas lynch. >> sent from pennsylvania. on his doorstep. >> the answers to black carpetbaggers. >> i want to ask you about munroe trotter and dw griffith at the end of their lives. what happens in the movie to all of the characters? how many people died from the different families? >> i cannot actually give you a headcount of the sons hold died. lieutenant ben cameron is on one of those horses under the hoods as a result of his sister's death. he found the klan and the climax is the klan per trade as -- portrayed as the savior of the south. the healing force who brings order to the chaos that has been created by freed slaves, poor undeserving of freedom, of voting rights, of any trappings of civilized being. the klan rides to the rescue as some of the family members are trapped in a cabin and being stalked by black troops. >> i found this on youtube. it has absolutel

dallas brumback was once an exalted cyclops in the ku klux klan. evidence prosecutors presented about hi plan involvement coming up. >>> panic thousands of feet in the air. after smoke fills an airplane bound for d.c. >>> and she lost her teenage son after he took his own life. a maryland mother is sharing his story and a message of hope technology has improved our lives, in small ways. in big ways. but what about this? couldn't this be better too? at redfin we asked ourselves the same question. which led us to create new ways to take you inside a home or instantly schedule a tour. but we paired that with our own agents who aren't paid on commission but on your happiness. and that's what makes it all work the world has changed and now real estate has too. >>> now at 6:30, a quick burst of winter weather moving out and it's giving way to wind and some serious cold. >>> a look at i-270 in montgomery county mostly just wet roads right now. traffic moving just fine. let's go to doug and see what's coming though. doug? >> what's coming up next -- excuse

. >>> a former leader of the ku klux klan says he had many encounters with u.s. senators and soon plans to reveal their names. david duke is upset at the backlash received by represent scaline. he spoke with the white nationalities group in 2002 but he says he did not know what the group was at the time. duke seen here says that if the critics don't stop he'll name names. >> reporter: you said this week that if he's crucified, i think that was your word choice. >> yes. >> that you're going to name names. what are we talking about? >> i would name names of any democrats -- i know some democrats and republicans in the house of representatives who tried, in fact urged me to support them. in fact, i did. >> reporter: in other words, you're saying there are members of congress today -- >> have had relationships. >> have had. they choose to keep those private? >> that's fine. i respect somebody's privacy. >> reporter: you'll call them out? >> i will call them out if they're hip critical. >> you can see the full interview later today on cnn. it airs for our u.s. viewers

the the ku klux klan used this years ago to keep people close to the organization.viduals are training for more operational roles and there is some evidence to that effect. a lot of these individuals believe that they are going there to be supportive and are willing to engage in a lot of those kinds of roles. i've heard of sort of the sexual exploitation of women and i don't think that we really know. i think we need more information. >> i'll give you an example. in nigeria, the school girls who were captured i'm sure their lives are terrible right now. some of them are being -- even by isis we hear stories of women being sold into sexual slavery or forced to marry people. those stories are surely getting out online. >> you would think so. i think there's probably a rationalization that these individuals perhaps deserve this treatment. they are legitimate targets versus individuals who willingyy join the organization. this sort of has legs. it reminds me very much of early gang theory and why young women joined gangs here in the united states years ago. the sort of

. >> david duke led the ku klux klan as an adult. >> there's no more truly representative symbol of thete race than the fiery cross. it is our symbol. >> he's given the hitler salute. the burning cross, the hitler salute. and had this guy scalise, his state rep didn't know who he was, didn't know he was meeting with that group. do you believe a gentleman would walk into this clansmen's group and didn't know what the hell was going on? is that credible? >> well, i think as ron said, if there's something else that we find out that shows you did know, or there's another shoe that falls, they contributed to you, and here's a copy of the speech where you endorsed part of their platform, i think we need to get one more something, another shoe. >> let's get off the moral train. none of us are equipped for it anyway. let's get on the political train. everywhere the republicans go, they'll have to carry scalise with him. every time he speaks, he's not going to speak at the next republican convention, i bet you right now. he's known for this and this is all anybody knows about steve scalise, he w

he continues, quote, when the ku klux klan burn a cross in a family yard, christians aren't required to say how these aren't christian acts. most know the kkk doesn't represent christian teachings. that is what muslims and i long for, for those teachings are instantly recognized as thugs. and his wish would come about faster if all of the muslim nations would confront the jihad the way the usa confronted the kkk. the fbi, largely compromised of christians wiped the klan out for prosecutoring them for -- by prosecuting them for the crimes they committed. who on earth is doing that to the jihadist? the answer is none. possibly jordan. they believe it is not right to hold the muslims accountable putting everyone in danger and eck knowed by the msnbc network who has emerged with "the new york times" as the down-player of the jihad. >> if our agenda is to promote peace and reconciliation and understanding, saying bad things about islam is not going to solve that problem. once again freedom of speech is a great thing and there should not be prior restraint but remember we have to respect pe

they were killed when the ku klux klan bombed the 16th street baptist church in birmingham alabama. bombing came less than a month after the march on washington. i asked duvernay why she opened "selma" with this devastating attack. >> for me, our approach to violence in the film was one that we considered very carefully. i am an independent filmmaker so this is my first film. there's so much violence in this era were talking about, but i wanted it to be something reverential and respectful to the lives lost. in trying to figure out how we brought people into the story and how we established a reference -- reverence for these black lives that mattered at that time, that we approach it in a way that got you right at the top. four little girls was the catalyst for so much of what happened in selma, the very visceral shaking of the leaders of the civil rights movement to do something off the beaten path, out of the box with a push toward selma. but also in the way we designed those shots with real intention to get you stuck in your seat and make you watch this thing in a way that you do

at least some of it was directed at the ku klux klan and other right-wing organizations. he question isn't how much of a crisis is actually being generated by the state or deliberately generated by the federal bureau of investigation. the answer is some of maybe not as much as they wanted you to think, on some level. the fbi absolutely did things like attempt to, for instance in black radical organizations disrupt organizations by sending anonymous letters from the leader of one organization to the leader of another organization saying, you are a jerk. your girlfriend is sleeping with so and so. did you know that? they also extensively had informants within radical organizations who were there to sometimes foam and violence, often to just foment internal dissension, and i think those had dramatic impacts in particular cases on radical organizations, but i actually think the most damaging parts of an operation like co-intel pro or fbi surveillance much more broadly was the police believed fbi agents were everywhere fbi informers were everywhere. whether or not they were the

detailed list of evidence that was seized in the home including multiple weapons and material about the ku klux klan. he also allegedly described himself with a title used by the k.k.k. that means chapter president. >> well a call for help tonight to find a missing gaithersburg woman who vanished on a cold december day. today marks one month since the last time 69-year-old betty jean queen was last seen. montgomery county reporter kevin lewis explains what's making this search so difficult. >> mary ellen is at a breaking point. she spent the last 32 days praying and fasting for the safe return of her older sister. >> i've often wondered did she go somewhere that something happened to her. >> elizabeth betty jean queen went missing from her gaithersburg townhome december 29th. most of her belongings including her state i.d. were left behind. family members say the 59-year-old is hard of hearing, has a chronic cough and is terribly shy. >> she has been diagnosed as schizophrenic and she's very paranoid fchl a stranger approached her she would back away. >> in my experience as an officer, thi

we have the ku klux klan in america. a christianist organization. you know? and in norway a couple years ago. remember, the murder of 77 kids on the island and tried to assassinate the president of norway and left behind a 1500 page treatise calling himself a soldier of christianity. we didn't expect every lead tire go on national television and condemn him. we knew he was a lunatic. there is a double standard in place when a muslim commits an act of murder. >> pin the takeoint taken. again. in august 16% of french citizens support isis. can you describe those who support isis as islamic extremists. do you support isis? >> did you ask if i support isis? i said obviously the 16% of people support the ideology. again i don't think that would necessarily extrapolate to to supporting of killing innocent people. you can have sympathy for an ideology and not, not, you know support the mass murder of people. and that's what the vast majority of the muslims, whether you are dealing with paris or islamabad, or jakarta, as horrified as everybody else about what happened

prosecutors underscored the man's ties to the ku klux klan today. hern virginia bureau chief julie carey is live in the sterling neighborhood where the man lives. jules? >> reporter: that white house back there is where dallas brumback lives with his new wife and three kids. his new occupation a pastor. he won't be coming home anytime soon. a loudoun county judge called hall of fame danger to the community after hear act hi past and all the guns seized from that house. prosecutors say 35-year-old dallas brumback was once an exalted psi clops scyclops in the kkk. a household where guns were within reach of three kid. this is the woman he's acued of trying to kill. she begged the judge to keep her ex-husband behind bars. her father says the whole family is agreed the judge agrees. >> i'm not really happy about it but nothing i can do about it. i hope they just keep him. >> reporter: dallas brumback was arrested last thursday charged with attempted capital murder for offering another man $2,500 up front and $2,500 afterward to kill his ex. the two had b

the american people done. >> that is mia love. a longtime advisor to former ku klan leader david duke confirmed that he personally invited scalise to speak to the 2002 gathering of white supremacists. kenny knight told the washington post, scalise was his neighbor and came as a favor to him, and did not know about racial views of the organizers. he said -- "he agreed, believing it was going to be neighbors, friends and family. he saw me not as david duke's guy, but as the president of our civic association." well for more we head south to speak with mark potok, senior fellow at the southern poverty law center. he joins us from montgomery, alabama. his latest piece is headlined, "steve scalise's denials are not believable." welcome back to democracy now! why aren't they believable? >> thanks for having me, for starters. i mean, they are wildly unbelievable. worst of all, when steve scalise was in his 20's in a state representative, that was the peak of david duke's heyday. duke ran for senate in 1990. he ran for governor in 1991. in both cases, he got the majorit

immigration restriction, which was in some ways related to that, and a little bit about the activities of the ku klux klan and we spent a lot of time on the translation of the forgeries known as "the protocols of the elders of zion." and we mentioned some of the anti-immigrant rhetoric connected with prohibition. what i want to do today is focus on the person who really did more than anyone else to fan the flames of anti-semitism in the 1920's, and that was none other than the famous american industrialist henry ford. henry ford is a great hero to many americans. there were lots of people who wanted henry ford to run for president in 1924. but as we will see, jews, for i think actually quite understandable reasons perceived henry ford to be an enemy. now i trust many of you know at least something about henry ford. but let's give at least a little bit of background on henry ford. he is in exceedingly interesting person. he is born in a very small community. springwell township in michigan. today we would say he was good at the stem subjects. yes, he is good at mathematics and engineering, which

i mean, when the head of the ku klux klan, when all these weird groups, come out in favor of the candidate party made a bad mistake in san francisco. and i'm going to have to vote against that mistake on the 3rd of november. >> the stakes are too high for you to stay home. >> funding for "bombs away" was provided by... additional support was provided by the following... >> hey, scientists. it's me-- sid. i want to know why my ice pop melted, so my friends and i are gonna investigate how things change. come explore with me. "sid the science kid" coming up next. >> "sid the science kid" is made possible by... first 5 california is a proud sponsor of "sid the science kid." >> at boeing, we believe the best way to prepare children for success is by nurturing their curiosity and enthusiasm for learning and letting the future of our children take flight. vinci is proud to sponsor

virginia democrats seem to have forgotten his past because byrd was a former high level member of the ku he made these comments back to tony snow in 2001. >> there are white [ bleep ], i understand a lot of white [ bleep ] in my time use that word. >> he received a pass because he was what a democrat? hear what president obama had to say about the late senator at his memorial back in 2010. >> he was a senate icon, a party leader, he was an elder statesman. and he was my friend. we know there are things he said and things he did that he came to regret. i remember talking about that the first time i visited with him. he said there are things i regretted in my youth. you may know that. and i said, none of us are absent some regrets senator. >> none of us are absent some regrets. here with reaction fox news political analyst juan williams when josh earnest says this says a lot about the gop's values, what does that say about the democrats taking on a former klans member? >> well, i think that what you got right now is pure politics being played. the fact is steve scalise is nicked up and he'

it was the ku klux klan that decided many years ago to try to black folk. i find this repugnant. look. this woman is saying she is doing it because they are muslim, she is going to do it by the names. suppose you had the name barack obama. so you bar kareem abdul jabbar. what about willie maize. i cannot agree five months this has been going on that the justice department has not stepped. in i'm reallyup set over it this. >> katie your thoughts? >> well there are causes of action that can be brought in this case. clearly nobody stepping up. ted just said it's been five months. nobody stepped up to actually bring a lawsuit. if you think about it a gun range, yeah. it's a place of public accommodation. but hot springs, arkansas, with overwhelming population of 3 5,000 i don't think people are clam moring to go over show-to-shoot weapons. title two of the civil rights act of 1964 is really what's at play here. under the law technically what she is too long is not appropriate. again, if somebody is not going to bring the legal battle. then what are you going to do? >> well what's int

. >> you wrote this -- you also wrote this when the ku klux klan burns a cross white christians aren'tit's not a christian act. most people understand kkk does not represent christian teachings. that's what muslims and others and i long for. bill o'reilly at fox news thoroughly red your op-ed and had responses to it. >> here's what mr. abdul-jabbar is missing. much of the muslim world apparently does not understand the islamic religion. take pakistan, for example, it allows the taliban major human rights violators, sanctuary. is that permissible under islam? apparently the government of pakistan believes it is. mr. abdul-jabbar's wish would come true a lot faster if all the muslim nationses would confront the jihad the way they confronted the kkk. the fbi, largely kop comprised of christians wiped the klan out by destroying its leaders and vigorously prosecuting the crimes they committed. >> who do you make of that? >> there's no one body that controls all muslims. a muslim in indonesia is under the control or influence of people there. it's not like you have a pope who supposedly is i

look, the ku klux klan has always called themselves the christian knights.tians. but we in the west we know they're not christians. we know they have no resemblance to a christian. we don't even think about it. but when we look at another world like the muslim world, we think, oh, they're all like that. that would be the muslims saying, that all christians -- >> you're talking about the dana kennedy was talking about, that people hate being painted with the is asame brush. jim cavanaugh, thanks so much. >>> leaders in france meet today to discuss what measures can be taken to prevent new attacks. and the very latest from paris at the top of the hour. discover card. hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection? yeah, we help with fraud protection. we monitor every purchase every day and alert you if anything looks unusual. wow! you're really looking out for us. we are. and if there are unauthorized purchases on your discover card, you're never held responsible. just to be clear you are saying "frog protection" right? yeah, fraud protection. frog pro

calvary against american indians, the texas rangers against mexican mesh americans -- meshes and the ku klux klan here. for some reason that did not end up in the official state standards. how does the place of religion in these present teks compare to religion in previous social study guidelines. to find out i worked through 99 years worth of state educational documents. went back as early as i could go. they were of different genres and there were suggestions and sometimes mandatory and they came from different offices and agencies but they contained general comparison and it baz very interesting. what did i discover? you sometimes hear the idea that religion was once prevalent in the social studies curriculum and somehow it has been taken out. and i would suggest this is really not the case. historically in texas, what has happened is that religion has been addressed almost exclusively in world history classes which are generally western religion classes. it has been very much focused on christian encounters with other religions, judaism as a predecessor to christyianeity and from th

want to do that to christians, of whom i am one, by the action he of the west bro baptist church or the kud with a cross as their symbol. i'm fearful of this especially ignorance and lack of knowledge and openness to each other leads to such suspicions. >> when there's an alert that goes out to americans wherever they are outside the country to be much more watchful. >> i do think one of the other things it underlines is why the nsa exists. why we've had so many stories on the overreach and the whole edward snowden thing, and as we have heard earlier in the program we are less likely to disdain organizations, self-motivated add least, need the technology that we have to supervise and try to intercept their -- communications. if we understand the cost, we are all freaked out about it. if that's the way to intercept these communications from brothers, that's a pricing a lot of us would at least consider. woodruff: but civil libertarians out there mark are saying no. >> that's its worst enemy, when you start following meetings it raises the question of where their priorities are. >> let's tal

as an african-american, i am upset that she met with the ku klux klan. would like to know any leader who does not make strategic mistakes as they pursue causes. i am rather forgiving of that, because that one act is not tomorrow the legacy that we have inherited from her. we have to see the totality of what they do, as opposed to trying to isolate any one thing as if we have people like jesus leading the movement. i am not sure he was perfect. >> met with them to try to change their minds. >> whatever the reason, she was not paying attention to -- what is that called? the optics of the process. but like i said, she is my kind of woman. i have been a blue -- oblivious to optics. i have enjoyed pissing off the cameras. the other thing i admire about her, is that she, like myself, came into this movement through lived experiences. i made the mistake of majoring in chemistry and physics. because nerds run in my family. it was not until i was sterilized when i was 23 that i realized that my feet were on a path to try to prevent that from happening to other wom

yes, as an african_american, i wish he had not gone and met with the ku klux klan. i am actually rather forgiving of that. that is one act that does not bar her legacy that we have inherited from her. we have to see the totality of what they do, as opposed to just isolating any one thing, as if we had jesus leading the movement __ and i'm not so sure he was perfect either. >> she met with them to try and change their minds. >> what ever the reason, she was not paying attention to __ what is that called __ >> optics. >> optics, that is the word. that's all right. like i said, she is my kind of woman. i have certainly been oblivious to optics many times myself. and i actually enjoy up the cameras. the other thing that i meyer about her is that she, like myself, came into this movement from different experiences. i do not think that i would be in abortions rights activists. i actually made the mistake of majoring in chemistry and physics. it was not until i was sterilized one is 23 that i realized my feet were on a path to trying to prevent that happening to other women

. >> you wrote this when the ku klux klan burns a cross, most christians aren't required to explain howistian act. that's what i and other muslims long for. bill o'reilly at fox news thoroughly obviously read your op-ed and had some responses to it. i want to play it and get you to responds. >> but here's what mr. mr. jabar is missing. much of the muslim world apparently does not understand the islamic religion. take pakistan for example. it allows the taliban major human rights violators sanctuary. is that permissible under islam? apparently the government of pakistan believes it is. mr. abdul-jabbar's wish would come true a lot faster if all the muslim nations would confront the jihad. the fbi, largely comprised of christians wiped the klan out, destroying its leadership by vigorously prosecuting the crimes they were committing. >> what do you make of that? >> well there is no one body that controls all muslims. a muslim in indonesia is under the control or influence of people there. it's not like you have a pope who supposedly is in charge of all catholics. even given that, the pope