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review it goes bag to inacceptance the waterfront land use was adapted in 1997 looking at what was accomplished and not accomplished and why within the water land use review the port staff has indicated areas we are, improve we've had good responsiveness for people looking at the water land use review and we're excited to go further with that >> in terms of what the port staff thinks about updating the water land use plan a lot of areas the plan has moved forward in the ferry building sub area we note there's a couple of area we need better planning with the neighborhood but also our colleagues at the bay conservation and you land use commission and the planning department so we're proposing that we had a revised planning in the south beach near telegraph hill we'll be talking about that in the coming months. so that's the highlights i wanted to make we didn't respond to items 1 and 5 not directed to the port and provided answers to 6 through 11 but there's a number of port staff and city staff available for questions >> thank you thank you. >> is there a response to ms
review it goes bag to inacceptance the waterfront land use was adapted in 1997 looking at what was accomplished and not accomplished and why within the water land use review the port staff has indicated areas we are, improve we've had good responsiveness for people looking at the water land use review and we're excited to go further with that >> in terms of what the port staff thinks about updating the water land use plan a lot of areas the plan has moved forward in the ferry building sub...
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but in the search for private dollars they're often looking for a variance to the waterfront land use plan the recent projects involve some kind of variance plan so we're requesting the port or recommendation is that the port review and rise the land use plan, which was created 17 years ago. and include a maritime aspect because it focuses on preliminary land and development and the maritime aspect of the court is very, very important. we feel there should be a lot of pun input on the revision there was a revision announced august 11th we received a copy today between august 11th and december 30th too the time period closes is 7 weeks we feel that's an example how it's not city to do public entity on this and finalized on october 13th it should include maritime aspects of how to develop the maritime activities of the port which is examples are great cargo and fishing and x urgsz a a great deal of of other things private birthing and reject finding six the 2007 it is estimated that that will be b at thirty percent capacity and one of the preliminary reasons is fell statute dating back
but in the search for private dollars they're often looking for a variance to the waterfront land use plan the recent projects involve some kind of variance plan so we're requesting the port or recommendation is that the port review and rise the land use plan, which was created 17 years ago. and include a maritime aspect because it focuses on preliminary land and development and the maritime aspect of the court is very, very important. we feel there should be a lot of pun input on the revision...
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i'll got to get that on. >> the waterfront land use plan i was going to say we identified i want to reiteratehe waterfront land use plan was not an update a review to make sure we're in agreement to the pact so we can talk about the future we identified a number of the items as something we need to talk about as the future so that's where we are heated when we come back to the on the com mass for the land use review it won't be an update the update about b will come later the community ouch of outreach we've got hopefully, all of you to be volunteering to be part of that we've identified so many groups to outreach to more to come. >> any further new business? >> i'll have 0 a motion to adjourn in memory of the four individuals. >> george parking space i can't act pacific flanagan and d.c. >> is there a second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> the meeting
i'll got to get that on. >> the waterfront land use plan i was going to say we identified i want to reiteratehe waterfront land use plan was not an update a review to make sure we're in agreement to the pact so we can talk about the future we identified a number of the items as something we need to talk about as the future so that's where we are heated when we come back to the on the com mass for the land use review it won't be an update the update about b will come later the community...
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the - supervisor breed said allow bars to have up to four games that passed at the land use commission and passed at the board of supervisors and the police department were concerned about that it meant there would be businesses between 2 and four outside of the good neighbor policy and their purview so supervisor breed and i and the city attorney's office meet with the police department after that 72 the board meeting and it's a good come mice a bar can have one game and 2 to 10 over the counter permit and the application of a will be wrafd that seven hundred plus fee will be waived and if the bar has 11 or more a permit from the entertainment commission and the fee will be imposed >> this will be submitted next week. >> correct. >> any other commissioner commissioner dooley. >> can you clarify the clause on the arcades and i and the inclusion it's unclear to what those categories are i - i'm sorry. what section of the legislation commissioners. >> under the all the times prohibition on - i'm reading the digest. >> okay. can you give me more definition on what a neighborhood or commun
the - supervisor breed said allow bars to have up to four games that passed at the land use commission and passed at the board of supervisors and the police department were concerned about that it meant there would be businesses between 2 and four outside of the good neighbor policy and their purview so supervisor breed and i and the city attorney's office meet with the police department after that 72 the board meeting and it's a good come mice a bar can have one game and 2 to 10 over the...
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. >> thank you and thank you supervisor cohen for doing that amendment i came into the land use committee prepared to vote for the legislation there should be notice of parking removal ahead of time it's a matter of practice we will of want to make sure while we're combrairs our film city we're respecting our neighborhoods so to vote for it after the feasibility language is removed i voted against the measure i thought it didn't have been flexibility finding there's time when 72 hours notice don't work for legitimate reasons it's important to put that in context that the film industry matters a lot in san francisco it matters because of its national and integral portrayal of our city it's very, very beneficial to san francisco in matters because it allows us to have the aspect of the arts world especially the smaller independent films to having a happy in san francisco in addition it creates jobs and especially blue-collar jobs and jobs that don't necessarily require on advanced engineering degree so it's something we should be combrairgz the large productions can embrace all those in san
. >> thank you and thank you supervisor cohen for doing that amendment i came into the land use committee prepared to vote for the legislation there should be notice of parking removal ahead of time it's a matter of practice we will of want to make sure while we're combrairs our film city we're respecting our neighborhoods so to vote for it after the feasibility language is removed i voted against the measure i thought it didn't have been flexibility finding there's time when 72 hours...
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that's ultimately the intent of the legislation there is details at the land use committee that effected the arresting cascades that was approved and we amended that with concerns under the entertainment commission i can go into detail but we pa made a distinction between bars and non-bars the idea that the entertainment commission times to be engaged with bars and work with them on a good neighbor policy and it's different than some businesses so we want to make the distinction so that the entertainment commission can maintain it's off-site with bars that's what happened that determines the minimum number of games before a bar needs a permit from the san francisco entertainment commission i can go into that but that essentially is the high-level overview and by way of context the entertainment commission was kind enough to put together a list of the or david's cascades it's a relatively small amount 11 locations that have a one devices and it's a popular universe and i want to finish by showing the stack of letters in the upper hate. the entertainment commission staff said it was one of
that's ultimately the intent of the legislation there is details at the land use committee that effected the arresting cascades that was approved and we amended that with concerns under the entertainment commission i can go into detail but we pa made a distinction between bars and non-bars the idea that the entertainment commission times to be engaged with bars and work with them on a good neighbor policy and it's different than some businesses so we want to make the distinction so that the...
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we have questions. >> why not do that at the end of the meeting i'm very interested to hear how the land use committee went this is coming back to us bill is not here and it's coming back to code enforcement or the commission. >> that one i don't know much about i didn't attend it more is going to come back to us the technical how to do that. >> okay. that's been our issue appreciate it and welcome abroad. >> item 4 update open projects. >> good morning commission sngz compared to last month the major project jumped a few percent now the monies up to one percent increase we were expecting it to increase a little bit more with the warriors arena we'll be going forward with that including the tracking but not the cost because we didn't finalize it any questions? >> so in the indecision discussion from deputy director madison she talked about the permits are we seeing that in general a big project applications going down or. >> actually leah mentioned the worrying community it's a big project you, you know, we have a two office tower and parking and all those they wanted to started construction
we have questions. >> why not do that at the end of the meeting i'm very interested to hear how the land use committee went this is coming back to us bill is not here and it's coming back to code enforcement or the commission. >> that one i don't know much about i didn't attend it more is going to come back to us the technical how to do that. >> okay. that's been our issue appreciate it and welcome abroad. >> item 4 update open projects. >> good morning commission...
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and i keep referring to the water front plan as though it is all land use but as we were acutely aware, while the original water front plan was called the water front land use plan, it is about the maritime as well as the land use, and i think that it is important that people refocus on the role of maritime and we made several suggestions including what is deal with be the cruise ship lines and we understand that the port's position, and that efforts to do something with the cruise ship lines and opening it to up the foreign vessels, and it did not suck seize when it was brought up before which was in 1998. but it is a long time ago. and a lot has happened since then including an american flag vessels and so really is comes down to a question of either little, and it was a pilot program and something along that nature. the american flag vessels of which there are actually done. and so, i would that this calls for a stronger effort, by the port, and rather than just, be part of a coalition, and that had spans the whole coast including what the people who are competitors. we also, and in
and i keep referring to the water front plan as though it is all land use but as we were acutely aware, while the original water front plan was called the water front land use plan, it is about the maritime as well as the land use, and i think that it is important that people refocus on the role of maritime and we made several suggestions including what is deal with be the cruise ship lines and we understand that the port's position, and that efforts to do something with the cruise ship lines...
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advocate for the deeply affordable housing we'll you'll be hearing from us the planning commission reject all the conditions until the plan is met we ask the planning commission look at the land use outlining the plan specifically thegles outlining for people nonprofit for future development. as the property project for van ness is congregate another long string of larger condominium we ask you to reject this project >> hi, i'm tommy i'm with plaza 16 coalition i want to talk about to built our way of this housing crisis ted egan says it will take one hundred though maushth units to be make a noticeable dent? housing prices unquote not to bring them down to middle-class to afford them minimal our dwindling water supply if we brought in that many people and it didn't solve the problem but amazing made a small dent a grand jury report the mayor's office of housing under pressure and challenged to preserve different quotas while the housing market is enjoying it's investment one should not september the ownership crisis? city to decreasing even if the mayors 25shg9 of thirty thousand new units by 2024 is met the report suggests the best way to make the housing affordable have th
advocate for the deeply affordable housing we'll you'll be hearing from us the planning commission reject all the conditions until the plan is met we ask the planning commission look at the land use outlining the plan specifically thegles outlining for people nonprofit for future development. as the property project for van ness is congregate another long string of larger condominium we ask you to reject this project >> hi, i'm tommy i'm with plaza 16 coalition i want to talk about to...
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where our cargo and operations and the ship repair industries reside and are embraced in the water front land use plan and that said, we are looking at what are the changes that are taking place, up land in the eastern neighborhoods, and the bay view hunter's point and trying to create new opportunities, that are consistent with advancing the maritime industrial but also provide new job opportunities, recreational, and open space, opportunities as well, through, advancing the blue, green, way in the southern water front, through the hern's head and the creek improvements and through the cove park projects that are now under way and we have quite a litany of the open space opportunities that are planned. and we have also, been looking at where water recreational access can also be expanded because this is part of the water front that does not have a constructed sea wall and so it offers new opportunities, for that kind of recreation as well. and so, there has been a lot of work with the southern water front advisory committee and the maritime commerce to come up with a strategy for taking on more
where our cargo and operations and the ship repair industries reside and are embraced in the water front land use plan and that said, we are looking at what are the changes that are taking place, up land in the eastern neighborhoods, and the bay view hunter's point and trying to create new opportunities, that are consistent with advancing the maritime industrial but also provide new job opportunities, recreational, and open space, opportunities as well, through, advancing the blue, green, way...
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name is paul werm er and i am wearing a new hat here tonight as the jtf board member and chair of the land use committee, and actually there is not a lot to add to what has already been said. it is extremely encouraging to see the first project coming before you after the jhs process that alines so well with all of the stated objectives in the jhs plan and with that i will say thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is alice coahasu and i am the new
name is paul werm er and i am wearing a new hat here tonight as the jtf board member and chair of the land use committee, and actually there is not a lot to add to what has already been said. it is extremely encouraging to see the first project coming before you after the jhs process that alines so well with all of the stated objectives in the jhs plan and with that i will say thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is alice coahasu and i am the new
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the commissions recommendation and we offered to expend the deadline for public comment on the waterfront land use program until october twoktd we proposed the end of this month there's a huge outpouring of the land use review we think it's appropriate to the november 30th timeline we'll be meeting with as many groups as possible in the next thirty days. >> we've been receiving a lot of interest and feedback. >> yes. a lot of feedback people are making their way through the documents we've not seen many comments there are a presentation diane and others will be making a presentation this monday night to isolate the comments our committee advisory committee and reaching out as far and wide as we, the copies of the document have been broad and we've gotten a lot of just positive comments on the right ability and the pictures people really enjoy seeing the before and after. now the sad part >> before you get it that part. >> could i also comment on the run and swim that so many port staff participated in this weekend. >> okay yesterday excuse me. sunday there was a giant held the giants race this run
the commissions recommendation and we offered to expend the deadline for public comment on the waterfront land use program until october twoktd we proposed the end of this month there's a huge outpouring of the land use review we think it's appropriate to the november 30th timeline we'll be meeting with as many groups as possible in the next thirty days. >> we've been receiving a lot of interest and feedback. >> yes. a lot of feedback people are making their way through the...
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by cal. >> he promised this will be a land use committee, all committee members which will all abide in the future uc land development. >> the university agreed to an overall an over all oversight of the entire university and the land use. so that's huge. >> reporter: not true say university officials. >> that predated this protest. that would continue and that committee would stand regardless of how the protest ended. in short there was no quick proquo. >> reporter: by 12:30, all of the tree sitters were down, handcuffed and placed in patrol cars. the men will likely face contempt of court. >> today's effort was brilliant both in its design and execution. >> i think each one of us are going to internally see what could have been done better. what could have come out of this. we also have to take the time to say we did a hell of a job. >>> in all, four were sentenced to community service. was one given jail time for credit for time served. all five were also ordered to pay the university's attorney fees ranging from 5,000 to $10,000. the university said the protest ended up costing $700,000
by cal. >> he promised this will be a land use committee, all committee members which will all abide in the future uc land development. >> the university agreed to an overall an over all oversight of the entire university and the land use. so that's huge. >> reporter: not true say university officials. >> that predated this protest. that would continue and that committee would stand regardless of how the protest ended. in short there was no quick proquo. >>...
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at & t is complying with the city's land use regulation and general plan. the proposed is the least intrusive to fill the widee coverage gap in the area. i ask you to please consider the information presented to you today as well as the recommendation from staff to approve with conditions and support our conditional use permit. thank you. >vice-president cindy wu: thank you. opening for public comment. if i call your name, please lineup on the screen side of the room. john cobbo. >> if your name has been called, feel free to approach the podium. >> president wu, commissioners, good afternoon, my name is john mcbo. i'm here to strongly state my opposition for approval of this conditional use permit for cell towers. i have read the recommended summary and have problems with it. i have 58 of my fellow neighbors who live in the area who signed the petition which i will present. i have some major disagreements with it. first, living in that area for the last 30 years, i disagree with the fact that it will disrupt or it will not disrupt the normal architecture of
at & t is complying with the city's land use regulation and general plan. the proposed is the least intrusive to fill the widee coverage gap in the area. i ask you to please consider the information presented to you today as well as the recommendation from staff to approve with conditions and support our conditional use permit. thank you. >vice-president cindy wu: thank you. opening for public comment. if i call your name, please lineup on the screen side of the room. john cobbo....
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will have to stick to the policies to protect our homeowner stock we don't have this power in the land use committee but i'll proveer it for the future i'll make a statement we're about to push this out of the committee i'm glad the airbnb has maiden their taxes and i encourage them to work with the treasurers office with the back tax issues i like the registry with the note having the names but having a numerical registration that's helpful with enforcement the landlord we know that ultimately a lot of the liability something goes wrong goes to the prove or disprove and the landlord notification addresses that it's not as strong as landlord a consent but i'm happy to support that measure i mean, i'm glad we're excluding below market rates to be affordable i should be able to live in the units without average and i'm glad we've discussed the airbnb code and the insurance i'm happy to stick with the amendments that commissioner lee as proffered i'm not sure about the insurance to come up with a dollar amount but a 90 day hosted or non-hosted is a nice balance people continue to get the shor
will have to stick to the policies to protect our homeowner stock we don't have this power in the land use committee but i'll proveer it for the future i'll make a statement we're about to push this out of the committee i'm glad the airbnb has maiden their taxes and i encourage them to work with the treasurers office with the back tax issues i like the registry with the note having the names but having a numerical registration that's helpful with enforcement the landlord we know that ultimately...
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north is major phase 4 and again is the direct result that the navy has the land and taking mediation at the sites. so this is the land use pattern for the project you have the yellow and orange for the residential again 10 thousand 5 hundred unit the blue showing commercial in the hunters point shipyard site and red is retail that's i'll get into that that's centered around the existing stumd site and open space you'll see a lot of the parks and open space is located within the large pink area i've identified he hunters point shipyard this is under the navy's control all the parks is down at candle stick. so the revised phasing plan includes the c p center we'll call sub phases o-3 and 04 those are included in the projects next phase of development and all of c p center the next sub phases are within the stadium site together it includes 6 hundred and 75 thousand of retail and up to 3 hundred and 94 affordable housing and the local serving hotels and c p center is one of the primary anchors of the candle stick point portion of the project. those diaphragms illustrate a lot of what i've said on the left you see there are
north is major phase 4 and again is the direct result that the navy has the land and taking mediation at the sites. so this is the land use pattern for the project you have the yellow and orange for the residential again 10 thousand 5 hundred unit the blue showing commercial in the hunters point shipyard site and red is retail that's i'll get into that that's centered around the existing stumd site and open space you'll see a lot of the parks and open space is located within the large pink area...
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and i think that not all of that is evidenced in the current version of the water front land use plan and we can reference it but i think that there is more than ad hoc work going on between the port and the rest of the city. and i think that we at the commission are encouraging more integration. and as we talk in particular about the sea level rise that is not going to happen unless there is a fully integrated way of working this across the city and it will not succeed and we have already started that process and not only in the city family but with the cdc and we welcome more input and it is something that has to take and integrated and if i take your comments to say that we have to work in a fashion and i don't think that we will disagree with you and i think that is the correction that the commissioner have given the staff in that regard and so i am not going to address all of the comments that you made but that one hit home with me and i like to make that comment, and i think that i in particular have had more sessions with the staff on the water front plan and they know my input
and i think that not all of that is evidenced in the current version of the water front land use plan and we can reference it but i think that there is more than ad hoc work going on between the port and the rest of the city. and i think that we at the commission are encouraging more integration. and as we talk in particular about the sea level rise that is not going to happen unless there is a fully integrated way of working this across the city and it will not succeed and we have already...
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enforcements we need to work out and i'd like to grapple with as many of them to have the balanced perspectives on land use to vet them and if supervisor wiener is completed them then we'll hold it over to another hearing i want to thank you for that hard work in all sincerity. >> so the motion is to continue item number 2 as amended by two weeks can we take those amendments without objection? >> i'm sorry, i want to supervisor wiener we're continuing that item to october 9th but a comment only supervisor chiu's comments to take those amended. >> we adapted supervisor chiu mainstreams early on unanimously. >> okay. >> and we adopted the actual one amendment that i pits forward around the identification and the one that supervisor kim talked about or in hoas those all the times were adapted. >> so the motion is to continue the action and we'll take that without objection.. madam clerk, any other business before this committee? >> there's no further business. >> then we're adjourned >> i have been a cable car grip for 21 years. i am a third generation. my grand farther and my dad worked over in green divisio
enforcements we need to work out and i'd like to grapple with as many of them to have the balanced perspectives on land use to vet them and if supervisor wiener is completed them then we'll hold it over to another hearing i want to thank you for that hard work in all sincerity. >> so the motion is to continue item number 2 as amended by two weeks can we take those amendments without objection? >> i'm sorry, i want to supervisor wiener we're continuing that item to october 9th but a...
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having the housing is important and we need to be careful when considering land used for the priorities over the next year and we want to insure we're not approving projects ad hoc. i want to recognize supervisor campos and supervisor david chiu and supervisor mar and also introducing two hearing requests one is that hearing request on san francisco pre k and transitional we had a presentation from the department of children's the controller's office and the mayor's office of education on the statistics of the city and county of san francisco see prekindergarten program. presentations whether include the demographics of students who are in the programs and the achievement gaps of those who attended pre k and those who didn't. and the second hearing i'm introducing a co- introducing with president fewer is a hearing request on the policies for planning for new student enrollment ems just in the last 10 years from 2000 to 2010 the san francisco population grew. and now sits anothers 8 hundred and 25 thousand and projected to grow to one million the accommodates those growth we need the bu
having the housing is important and we need to be careful when considering land used for the priorities over the next year and we want to insure we're not approving projects ad hoc. i want to recognize supervisor campos and supervisor david chiu and supervisor mar and also introducing two hearing requests one is that hearing request on san francisco pre k and transitional we had a presentation from the department of children's the controller's office and the mayor's office of education on the...
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the way that new york is using that we may want to take a few packages out of their book >> commissioner. >> i think your presentations is helpful we're in the midst of yours respectfully, our waterfront land use plan and firmly we can incorporate in terms of the context in addition to the work further ethics we want the information on the statistics i think i would like to recommend to the staff they incorporate that in terms of the introduce of the land use because it had a is to be in the context of the waterfront not only the waterfront by itself and take a broader complexities that will help the constituents and everyone that wants to understand this how we're looking at what the bigger needs of the city we're no longer isolated by ourself. >> thank you for coming and appreciate our in sights. we need a little bit of time to - shouldn't take long call the next item >> joint presentation on the sea level rise. >> is there someone that will introduce the taping. >> yes. it's going to be me but i'm going to give mr. england a few moments to deal with the projector. >> thanks. >> let's put it back on your screen. >> no. >> we're going to go back to yours a little video clip and sure. >> a
the way that new york is using that we may want to take a few packages out of their book >> commissioner. >> i think your presentations is helpful we're in the midst of yours respectfully, our waterfront land use plan and firmly we can incorporate in terms of the context in addition to the work further ethics we want the information on the statistics i think i would like to recommend to the staff they incorporate that in terms of the introduce of the land use because it had a is to...
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these were delivered to the board and as a land use land department exercised a goal to create a legal avenue for this use and thanked the supervisor for taking on this challenging issue. at the same time the director addressed the need to focus on three key changes . first ensuring the system is not abused by creating real limits by the number of days a unit can be rented. second, a dedicated budget for staff and third, establishing limits for hosted units. after opening remarks from the supervisors, there were about seven 7 hours of public comment. and a representative from one of the hosting platforms came to the hear and addressed the board. this is what one commission suggested at your hearing. as part of the board hearing there were several recommendations and amendments. eight amendments that a person on the registry can only have one permanent residence and there would be a suspension of your ability to participate in the registry if you have a code violation at the address until the violation is cured. posting a ballot registration would be a violation. anybody who participate
these were delivered to the board and as a land use land department exercised a goal to create a legal avenue for this use and thanked the supervisor for taking on this challenging issue. at the same time the director addressed the need to focus on three key changes . first ensuring the system is not abused by creating real limits by the number of days a unit can be rented. second, a dedicated budget for staff and third, establishing limits for hosted units. after opening remarks from the...
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it went to the board of supervisors and rushed before the august recess in july and went to land use and passed unanimously on first reading before the august recess. with that said there were some concerns from your executive director and from staff and from vice president hyde about an amendment that was made at land use, and we met with executive director kane and the city attorney and supervisor breed right before the august recess after that board meeting and came up with what i think is a compromise that will benefit all sides so let me walk through how that evolved. the original legislation said a bar could have one game but as soon as it gets two games it needs a permit from the entertainment commission. nan bars can have up to 10 games before they get a permit and that's not changed and they're off the table and there is strong consensus that they can have 10 games before they need a permit but as it was submitted a bar can have one game but if it has two it needs a permit. supervisor kim which is on the land use didn't like that and too much of a hassle to small business own
it went to the board of supervisors and rushed before the august recess in july and went to land use and passed unanimously on first reading before the august recess. with that said there were some concerns from your executive director and from staff and from vice president hyde about an amendment that was made at land use, and we met with executive director kane and the city attorney and supervisor breed right before the august recess after that board meeting and came up with what i think is a...
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it is a look back to see what has been accomplished since the land use plan was adopted and taking about the projects that were built and some that were not, and what are the lessons that we drew from that, and what are the preliminary recommendations and on this document, and then, we will want to engage, with our subareas, or in different areas along the water front and with, the other departments, and city wide, and a discussion about how to update the water front plan. and so, i just want to make clear, and i am sorry, if we didn't communicate that well enough. and in the pier lot, and the south pier and had the development and there is controversy in both areas and at the commission's direction, the subarea planning effort and in those areas and coupled, and how the port is responding to the sea levels. >> and so, there were a number of other recommendations that i am not going to go into each of them, but i do list them here. and if the commission has any question about the staff response to any one of these, we will be happy to answer, and but mostly we want wanted to appreciate t
it is a look back to see what has been accomplished since the land use plan was adopted and taking about the projects that were built and some that were not, and what are the lessons that we drew from that, and what are the preliminary recommendations and on this document, and then, we will want to engage, with our subareas, or in different areas along the water front and with, the other departments, and city wide, and a discussion about how to update the water front plan. and so, i just want...