obviously a significant witness here for the prosecution. the defense is spending a great deal of time with him. while they are sorting out some documents, we will fit in another break. as we go away, we want to know what you would say if you had the jury box seats and were in the jury for this trial. here's the question today, did the testimony yesterday of the victim's family members, the mother, the sister, help the prosecution? so far 79% of you are voting yes. 21% of you don't think so we'll update those results throughout the course of the day. >>> when i came past the living room, my oldest son said, mom, shea's been shot. and i didn't see anyone until i saw her coming in through the front door. she collapsed on the front. i tried to do cpr. >> and was she responding to you? >> no, she wasn't. >> that's some of the testimony from yesterday, the mother of the victim testifying in the vile of this man, david darling, the defendant, one of the other co-defendants has already pled guilty. he has indicated it was this man who started that s

didn't want to believe the facts laid out by the prosecution. >> i'd lost not ohm brian, now i've lost elicia. i guess i was hoping something in that trial would have convinced me the other way. >> so you wanted to be persuaded that there was somebody else at that front door. >> i wanted to. i wanted to. yes. but it didn't happen. >> in the end they settled all your doubts about what had happened. >> yes. >> there was only one person in that house with a gun and it was your daughter-in-law. >> yes. >> we felt good that we had gotten a verdict, a verdict of guilt. so i guess from that standpoint that eased the pain to a degree. >> reporter: but nothing but pain was what elicia was feeling inside a prison cell. she had to find a way out but doesn't every inmate feel that way? >> as hurt as i was by the system and my situation, i never believed that i was going to spend the rest of my life in jail. i didn't know how long i would have to be there, but for me i couldn't sit there and accept the idea that i was going to be there for the next 30-plus y

we are in the prosecution's case. the foundation for me, tell me where we are, where we are going. >> testimony will resume shortly with the cross-examination of the fifth witness to take the stand yesterday, arnold yen, the crime scene technician, but yesterday earthquake the jury heard from four others. the second witness was sharon jenkins, sherdavia's mother. she took the stand to set the scene on that fateful day, saturday afternoon about 3:00. it was july 1, 2006. sher ron jenkins was home with three of her five children, one of them, her daughter, shea, she was there when shea was killed. >> when i came past the living room, my oldest son said, "mom, shea been shot." and i didn't see anybody until i just saw her coming in through the front door. collapse on the floor. >> was she responding to? >> no she wasn't. >> little she had dave ya was only 9 years old, bleeding profusely from the right side of her neck, her mother tried to render aid but daughter died in her arms. >> other testimony as well from the sister

does it hurt the prosecution? >> no. there's no indication she stabbed, shot or did anything like that. if anything, used chloroform. could have broken her neck. the possibility of drowning. no, it's not unusual there's no blood in the trunk of the car. >> 877-tell-hln is the number. >>> we're going to talk about key evidence that was destroyed. i know your question. how does it happen? we'll lay that out for you and how it could hurt the prosecution's case.

that's a plus for the prosecution. let's talk about a couple of things that could -- >> a plus from. >> the doofs well, ah, i don't know. a good question. curtis sliwa, if they found this outline, why not put it it through the discovery so we could all see the picture of the outline. >> jane, like you yourself said it could a stigmata. an image like the child but it's not the child. remember, eight pages of discovery and i'm sure once the child gets under way a lot of the evidence is going to be tossed or challenged by the defense. about but 8,000 pages of discovery, i would have to say, there's a lot of stuff there that's going to be used in this case that the defense is going to find very, very difficult to defend. >> drew finley, why not shot outline if this bombshell outline of a child in the fetal position in the trunk where they smelled decomposition, where the mom screams the mom casey, it smells like a dead body in the damn car. why not show us the outline in the discovery dump? >> well, for the simple reason. i

it all began with the prosecution filing what's known as a motion in lemne. t's a motion at the threshold, a motion at the beginning of the case or before the evidence comes in to try to prevent defense counsel from cross examination about what he had seen on a dramatized television show called "the first 48," quickly spiraled into a discovery of arguably when would or deliberately suppressed evidence. these are arguments last night on the state's motion to stop defense counsel from cross examination in certain areas. >> filed -- i think the court has a copy of it -- motion in lem inform e regarding the defense bringing up any mention of a show that was tape recorded that's a dramatization, name of the show being "the first 48." i think the episode that deals with this case is called "innocence lost" or something like that. it was turned over to the defense because it does have footage of the defendant's statement. in our motion, we laid out some facts. i have detective garcia here present to testify outside the courtroom regarding the issues in this case. int

i think the prosecution has a long way to go here. >> so let's parse this out. ydration, or that the body temperature -- because the argument could be the coach-open the basic prosecution argument, the way i understand it, the coach should have known it was too hot. maybe water wasn't the answer. maybe taking off the helmets and shoulder pads would have been the answer. do we need to hear that for the prosecution to score some points? >> yes, mike, you're right. i'm not saying because it wasn't a dehydration, that he necessarily is off the hook. what i'm saying it's a harder challenge for the prosecution. because there are other contributing factors. and when you're trying to hold someone criminally responsible, you have to show that that coach's specific acts, his conduct, what he did or what he specifically did not do actually caused the death. not that there were all these contributing factors that may have caused the death. you have to really pin it down when you're holding somebody criminal negligence. this is criminal responsibility. >> burden of proof a lo

it gives the prosecution a peek into what to expect the testimony in the criminal case. >> prosecutionbig rooting interest. >> absolutely. >> let's change up here a little bit and talk about some of the evidence uncovered on friday. tracy mclaughlin. she worked with leonard padilla. padilla bailed casey anthony out of jail. mclaughlin has access to casey anthony. here she is talking about casey anthony as casey is watching news coverage of the case and the news coverage is talking about evidence in the case. listen to what casey anthony is saying via tracy mclaughlin. >> she walks out. i said there is signs of decomposition. she said, i know, i'm trying to keep lee and casey away from the tv. i'm shaking. by the time i walk in the bedroom she is in there with the news on. yeah, something came up. yeah the samples came back. she said a lot of people had access to that car. >> wow. let's get this on two fronts. michelle, again, nothing about caylee, but immediately covering her own rear. talking about air samples that others had access. that is stunning, isn't it? >> again, i think what

thomas, i'll start with you, where did the prosecution drop the ball here? >> i don't know if it's so much what they did wrong, it was a tough case. you wanted to see this coach held account act for what people describe as grueling practice, the word barbaric was thrown around. there was the concern among everybody involved in the case or spek tating on the case through the media, if the verdict would have come down guilty in this case, what sort of effect would that have had on high school sports or amateur sports or youth sports all around the country. would a guilty verdict in this case chill you know, that enthusiasm that adults have to get involved in children's sports. >> that was a concern there. mark, as we look at this, i'll say this, if he was guilty and then so be it and there needs to be a chill factor. that is a different argument. when i look at the case, i don't know if you have the rules in place to say coach, you violated x, y and z and by that you are guilty? >> that's correct, mike. the state has to have sufficient evidence. in this case t

the prosecution was in favor of forcibly extracting the men from their cells if necessary.he judge declined to do so. an even more bizarre moment, the men had requested films, including a 1970 film from harrison ford about the melai massacre. they want more printers and chargers for their computers to help prepare their defense. today there were five 9/11 families in court today and four said they would like to see guantanomo bay stay open and the fifth insisted that guantanomo bay should be close the. bret: catherine, thank you. three men suspected of plotting a terror strike somewhere in new york made their initial court appearances today on charges of lying to authorities. zazi and his father were in federal court in denver. the younger zazi reportedly had bomb making notes on his computer. he has denied being involved in the alleged plot a third suspect appeared in a new york courtroom. ahmed a-zfoli. >> new books are giving behind-the-scenes glimpses into three presidencies including a story that a future first lady advised against putting a former first lady on the ob

she was the prosecution's star witness in the trial of manson and his followers for those murders. t of concern for her safety, she is disguised. los angeles county assistant da, he prosecuted manson and the others. he wrote the number one best seller "helter-skelter" the true story of the manson murders. you haven't seen each other since 1971, right, vince? >> yeah, that's right. >> what does it feel like? >> it is wonderful seeing linda again. i gave her a big hug. it's a long time. she looks great. i was telling her that i don't look a day over 90. she looks great. you are 15 years younger than i am. >> wonderful seeing linda again. >> larry: do you think about that night a lot, linda? >> yeah. i would say probably every day. >> you think about it a lot, vince? >> a lot. not every day. i've gone on to other murder cases. certainly i've thought about it. >> larry: that's the case that made you worldwide famous. >> absolutely. >> larry: linda, what are your memories of charles manson? >> that he was just a very charismatic, beautiful man. >> larry: and how did you get involved with

>> no, not at all. >> do you think she will testify for the prosecution? that's up to linda. >> most of the people i didn't even know. linda kasabian, for example, she'd only been at the ranch a couple of weeks. i'd seen her maybe twice. you know, like i never paid that much attention to the people that came around that ranch. they came and went as they chose. >> larry: the night after the tate murders, the manson family struck again. i asked linda kasabian and prosecutor vincent about what happened on the second night. >> the second night manson accompanied his killers in a car looking for the victims completely at random. so in the vast sprawling metropolis of l.a. no one was safe. they stopped at a church in pasadena. the doors were locked. no one inside. they stopped in front of the one with leno and rosemary labianca. husband and wife. leno was the owner of a small supermarket chain called gateway market. so they stopped there, and manson sent his killers into the house with instructions to murder the occupants. then he drove off with linda and two oth

>> without it then the prosecution cannot get off the ground. >> reporter: he has to take the stand and tell the jury what it felt like when he received that demand. how upset and disturbed he was. nobody else can do that for him. >> the 16-year-old died in january after suffering a seizure at the family's vacation home in the be happen hamas. the ambulance driver told inside edition that both parties were emotion an and rode with their son to the hospital. >> he was crying, eyes were red. i remember him looking up at the ceiling and saying, god pleasant help me. >> reporter: trial evidence may include reported conversations with the two defendants. >> there were negotiations, they were tape recorded. they have a record of what went on so they have tried to create a tape recording and paper trail to nail these people. >> reporter: his testimony at trial would be the first time travolta has talked publicly about the tragedy. he cancelled interviews for his films is rarely spotted out and according to "people" magazine takes solace in piloting his plane. >> john travolta has been devastat

what did the prosecution do wrong? where did they drop the ball here? don't know if it's so much a matter of what they did wrong. it was a tough case, because on the one hand you wanted to see this coach sort of held accountable for what some people described as an exceptionally grueling practice. the word barbaric was thrown around. at the same time i think there was the concern among, you know, everybody who's either involved in this case or was speck tating on this case through the media, and so forth, that, you know, if the verdict would have come down guilty in this case, what sort of effect would that have had on high school sports, or amateur sports, youth sports, all around the country. would a guilty verdict in this case really kind of chill, you know, that enthusiasm, that adults have to get involved in children's sports and volunteer for little league and be high school coaches and so forth. >> that was a concern there. mark, as we look at this, you know, and i'll say this, if he was guilty, then so be it. there maybe needs to be a chill fact

the prosecution says he defrauded charities of $92,000 by double billing. the money which -- the money was allegedly spent on family holidays. in an interview just before the trial, he scoffed at suggestions that he might go to jail. >> i know that you believe that you will prove your innocence, but have you had to wrestle yourself with the prospect that you might end up in prison? how do you feel? >> i laughed. >> in your mind, no possibility that could happen? >> the former prime minister did not testify today. that will come after his lawyers have examined all the prosecution's documents. the case is expected to last as long as four years. >>> zimbabwe's president mugabe has used his address to the u.n. general assembly to criticize western sanctions on his country. he said south african nations have made huge sacrifices to help zimbabwe during the global economic crisis but western sanctions have not been lifted. >>> mexican authorities have arrested five men accused of carrying out dozens of reprisal killings for one of the most powerful drug cartels. t

wendy, for the prosecution, go ahead. >> this guy admitted to raping a child. we are not talking about sex. we're certainly not talking about statutory rape. the 17-year-old boy had sex with his 14-year-old girlfriend. he was in his mid 40s, gave her drugs, booze, raped her in a lot of different ways. we're talking sodomy and other styles of rape. then pleads guilty. decides he shouldn't have to pay with the real kind of punishment most people face when they rape kids. takes off then thumbs his nose at this country's legal system, going to parties, hanging around on the west bank, doing whatever he felt like doing for 30 years. that's the sort of guy who deserves not only to be extradited, but when he gets here, he gets extra punishment, no discounts. i am sick to my stomach to hear people say, well, he's really a smart guy. a brilliant director. and terrific artist. since i read the constitution, i didn't see a brilliant director exception to the punishment part. >> just to get the facts straight, you say that he admitted all of those charges, all of the drugs

not avoid the possibility that you may be able to obtain evidence that would result in a prosecution. and, consequently, the effort is to look at an individual, determine what is the evidence you have on him, is the evidence admissible into a courtroom, does it come from intelligence sources where it is problematic, given the reasons you said, may have come from a source are method disclosed or a foreign country, but, tie that together and say what do we have on the individual and firstly ho does it tie together to maximize our ability to interrogate the individual and information that you need to effectively interrogate an individual, may well come from law enforcement sources or may well come from intelligence sources and the persons doing the interrogation should have that information in front of them, and, in unique cases, high value targets, as i said before, maybe somebody who has been indicted before at least has the option of giving miranda warnings in certain circumstances where it is appropriate to help the prosecution, not to the detriment of gathering intelligence. so the

as a matter of fact, chris, the deal in los angeles at the time between the prosecution and mr. defense lawyer for roman polanski, was agreed to by the judge. he was sentenced to an evaluation facility at chino in california. at that facility, they made the appropriate recommendations, consistent with what the judge had agreed to. the judge, on the other hand, began to be pilloried with information and nonsense, similar to what wendy is offering to the public here. and as a result of that, he wanted to back out of the deal. the prosecutor was kind enough to tell mr. dalton, the lawyer for roman, that, in fact, the judge was reneging on the deal. the deal was a very simple one. whatever the recommendations apparently would be from chino would be what the sentence would be. the recommendations from chino was, he needed no further incarceration. the judge apparently said, i won't do that, and with that, mr. polanski left. but let's talk clearly about what occurred in switzerland. mr. polanski has a residence in switzerland. he's been living there, during the ski season for the last

prosecution? >> compliance with the law, has that complicated the prosecution? >> i would say that it is an additional duty that our prosecutors have to and our investigative agents have to take. but to the extent that it is required more effort it's one that we fully accept upon ourselves as part of our obligations. >> it's provided more efforts. but you can see in some cases if it's a request for a timely trial before you're per paired -- prepared, for example, have you seen any complications in prosecutions? have you been unable to aggressively and prosecute defendants because of any compliance with this law? i just say one of the arguments against the constitutional amendment is that you're impended upon defendant's rights. and i guess my question is whether that's theoretical or real? are you unable to prosecute people because of compliance with this law or any rights of the defendants compromised because you have to comply with the law? >> there are certainly circumstances where finding the right balance in the course of a prosecution between our obligation

the prosecutions that are going forward, the rule of law does matter, and they were contract agents thatt beyond even the very, i would say, outlandish techniques that were approved by the cheney administration. we might as well call it for what it is. i think that america has reclaimed some of the moral ground that it lost. we do stand for something better. we do stand for the geneva convention. >> water boarding does not work? >> "the washington post" just had a story two weeks ago that the water boarding inflicted on khalid shaikh mohammed provided direct actionable intelligence that prevented imminent attacks and after he was water boarded and subjected to some of the other e.i.t.s, khalid shaikh mohammed started giving the cia now considered the villain under the obama administration tutorials on the inner workings of al qaeda, the leadership, how they operate, where they were getting their financing. look, cheney is right. the bush team had a 100% perfect track record in keeping this country safe after the attacks of 9/11. it is absurd, reckless and irresponsible in the extreme for

the defense set up bloody footprints at the scene of the crime that did not match sollecito as the prosecutiontoday the defense presented more evidence that the alleged murder weapon found at sollecito's apartment could not have inflicted the wounds that let to kercher's death. the prosecutor in the case, juliano menini stands behind his theory that her former boyfriend rudy guini killed kercher in a sex game gone wrong. all three claim they are innocent. knox has spent the last 21 months behind bars awaiting justice. >> she's learning how to cope and make the time pass and try to make it as productive as possible. but you can never get used to prison life. >> and knox, says her father, feels the pain of losing her freedom. at least knox has not been alone, in fact her parents visit her regularly and this summer half a dozen students traveled from to italy to be with knox and offer their support. >> you say that everything comes down to forensics, what about having a third forensics witness as an option? >> reporter: the judge has the option of ordering and both sides are saying it's extraordi

the defense is trying to dismantle the prosecutions evidence. it was always going to come down to forensic science. what we have is he said she said. they are giving one gate. the defense is trouting their own defense efforts. they are saying the knife the prosecution says was used couldn't be because it's too long. a bloody footprint. we just heard an expert say it's impossible. the bloody footprint belongs to a third suspect who has been convicted of the crime and is serving 30 years in prison. it's a forensic battle going on within the courtroom with both sides being able to find experts contradicting themselves. i talked to one yesterday, they said it's not unusual to have some contradictions. while the contradictory statements from the experts all battle from what is the truth. >> as we were coming to this segment, it's like the trial that never ends. he brings up a good point. it's been going on forever. how long will it continue? >> it's a very good question. we have nine months into the trial. they just finished a two month italian break

lin linda became the prosecution's star witness. manson and his co-defendants were found guilty of the murders sentenced to death. the sentences were later commuted to life in prison. at 74, charles manson has spent nearly half of his life behind bars, one of the most infamous criminals in history. on the history channel a premier will take place titled manson, it includes re-creations of the the the la biank merders. out of consent by the way for her safety, she is disguised. and the los angeles county assistant da, he prosecuted man son and the others, he wrote the number one best seller, helter skelter. >> it was wonderful seeing her again. i said she looks great. you are 15 years younger than i am. >> larry: do you think about that night a lot, linda? >> yeah, i would say probably every day. >> larry: do you think about it a lot. >> not a lot, i have gone on to other murder cases. >>. >> larry: your memories first of charles manson? >> that he was just a very charismatic, beautiful man. >> larry: and how did you get involved with

the prosecution was in favor of forcibly extracting the men from their cells if necessary. the judge declined to do so. in an even more bizarre moment. we learned the men had requested a handful of movies, including a 1970s film with harrison ford about the massacre. they also want more charges for their computers and more printers to prepare for their defense. it was clear in the court that the judge in the 9/11 case won't make any decisions won't pull the trigger on essentially anything until the administration finally decides if they are going to keep the 9/11 case in the commissions or they will ultimately transfer to the u.s. and the federal courts, trace. shepard: catherine herridge streaming live tonight from guantanamo bay bay, cuba. trace: fox news is tracking h1n1 and continue encouraging news in the fight against this crew. researchers report that one dose of the vaccine should protect kids 10 and older. kids younger than that would still likely need two doses because their immune systems are not as developed. giving older children just one dose means there will

heart-shaped sticker outline found on the duct tape on caylee's mouth was accidentally destroyed as the prosecution sabotaged their own case? >>> plus, outrage over a mind-boggling delay. it took seven hours to perform a sobriety test on an nypd officer accused of killing a pedestrian while drunk driving behind the wheel. was law enforcement trying to give this cop time to sober up before the test? we'll have all of the blood-boiling details. "issues" starts now. tonight, missing in malibu. the disappearance of mitrice richardson escalates into a firestorm of controversy. at issue, how is this south l.a. woman treated when she daryned to dine in one of the most exclusive communities in the whole world? tonight, "issues" tackleless the question, did cops treat her like she didn't count? how could police let a 24-year-old woman who several people described as acting strangely, leave a sheriff's office alone in a remote area near malibu in the middle of the night? they let her leave without a car since they impounded her car. she left without a purse. she left without a phone, all because she couldn't

. >> reporter: the defense is consistently saying this is a desperation act on the prosecution's part. >> you're going to have to talk to the defense. they say a lot of things in court. >> and you're still optimistic? >> absolutely. >> the judge dennis sweeney says he'll rule on the motion to dismiss as soon as possible. reporting live from downtown baltimore, i'm pat warren. back to you on television hill. >> neither the defense nor the prosecution would comment on recent reports that mayor dixon also gained possession of thousands of dollars in unexplained money. >>> we have an update on breaking news we first brought you at 5:00. an american airlines flight in boston has been inspected after reports of a bomb. a note, reading "bomb on board" was found in a bathroom wall. the plane was checked. no bomb was ever found. all passengers were transferred to another flight headed to miami. >>> we also have breaking news from the auto industry. general murders is shutting down saturn. the company made the call after talks to sell saturn to penske automotive group failed. gm said that satur

start with the heat expert, douglas kosa from heat and hydration issues at the university of connecticut. now, he's a prosecution witness. ha did he come with? >> one of the key things he said today is what you mentioned earlier in the intro there, that he suspects that max gilpin's body temperature was closer to 109 degrees when he collapsed out there on the football field. when he was taken to the children's hospital here locally, his temperature registered at 107.4. he also walked the court through all of the steps that could have been taken to stop the heatstroke, to help max gilpin survive that heatstroke. he said heat strokes are 100% survivable if all of the proper measures are taken. a lot of the things that he talked about, like submerging someone in an ice bath, that measure was not taken with max gilpin. also very interesting towards the end of the day, we heard from two different doctors at the children's hospital here in louisville who treated max gilpin, and they say, they gave conflicting reports about whether or not he was fully hydrated. one doctor said she did not believe he was dehydrated. and

there was an expert, a footprint expert, that came in and the bloody footprint that the prosecution has fact essentially thrown out and they've attributed to to the person that's already in prison. >> you said recently no spec of amanda in the room where meredith lost her life was found. are you feeling leak especially seeing the evidence that's being brought in that your daughter may be vindicated? i know you believe in her wholeheartedly. >> i absolutely do. she had in part-crime. just pure common sense as it relates to the room, there's no hair follicl event, no dna whatsoever, and how they can attribute her to this crime is beyond me. >> has there been anything that really stood out to you in terms of evidence and testimony? >> well, i think as we go through each individual piece of evidence as the defense has their opportunity to provide their side of the case, it continues to break down the prosecution's theory to this whole crime. and hopefully we're coming to the end of the journey here and we'll be able to bring her home soon. >> a two month recess as we mentioned. what has tha

that will come after his lawyers have examined all of the prosecution's documents. case is expected to last as long as four years. >> it is good to have you with us on "bbc world news." the show is attracting thousands even though the store has been dead for 100 years. -- even though the star has been dead for 100 years. the government of sri lanka defeated the tamil tigers in may. hundreds of thousands of displaced people have been kept in camps. the government is now beginning to send them home. the bbc travelled to meet some of them who are leaving the camps at last. >> these of the chores of everyday life. it is a blessed return to normality. she and her young family are back home. they've been caught during the final days of the war in the shrinking tiger-held zone. >> because of the constant shelling, we moved into the other son. we got shelled there. people were killed and injured. we moved from place to place taking nothing but the tent, utensils. we tried to dig bumpers for the sand was too soft. >> the fisherman prepare for the day. it is not far down the c

>> i have spoken with jaycee about the prosecution, which is undergoing. and she>> i have spoken with jaycee about the prosecution, which is undergoing. and shechanged? >> i have spoken with jaycee about the prosecution, which is undergoing. and she candidly had very mixed emotion, but i think she very clearly understands that some very bad and terrible things were done to her and the people that committed those crimes need to be held accountable and her participation with law enforcement is essential for that to happen. >> would she be willing and do you feel able to testify against him and nancy garrido? >> well, i think i am confident in saying that if this case does proceed to trial, jaycee whether in all likelihood be a witness for the prosecution ppd and she understands that. that day is a long ways away from right now so she has a lot of time to continue with the mending and healing and rehabilitation. >> the family has hired you as their attorney and spokesperson. what are their goals, what do they hope will come from this? >> the family very genuin

and today the defense attempted to dismantle the prosecution's evidence. amanda knox in the custody of prison guards smiled at her father, who is attending the trial. she, along with her former boyfriend, raffaele sollecito, are accused of the murder and sexual assault of knox's roommate, meredith kircher. a forensic scientist said a bloody footprint at the scene of the crime did not match the defendant sollecito as the prosecution contends. outside the courtroom, he says the contradiction was not unusual but contends the truth is evident. today, the defense presented more evidence that the alleged murder weapon found in sollecito's apartment could not have inflicted the wounds that led to kircher's death. the prosecutor in the case stands by his theory that knox, her former boyfriend, and rudy guede, who has already been convicted of the crime, killed kircher in a sex game gone wrong. all three claim they are innocent. knox has spent the last 21 months behind bars awaiting justice. >> she's learning how to cope and make the time pass and try to make it as

they would go right into deliberations and that they can have lunch during that time, so once the prosecution is finished, they have been up for about one hour, the jury will get the case after several weeks. shepard: a passionate defense. what are people saying? >> this was getting lots of national attention, but just about everyone here in town has an opinion. i m&a local guy, so everywhere that i go, whether it is church or to the driving range, everyone is talking about this, asking about what i think. now we know one other thing that i can tell you. this jury pool was made up of 120 potential jurors. everyone who was questioned had heard about the case. a lot of talk around town, and as you said, is believed to be the first of its kind in the country. -- it is believed to be the first of its kind. shepard: stephan, thank you. a laboratory technician, ray clark iii, appeared in court just hours after cops to attempt into custody. they said his bail at $3 million -- just after cops took into custody. annie le has been missing now for nearly a week. this morning, the chief of the new haven

if the ultimate goal of the administration is to prosecute high-value detainees in article 3 courts, the development of evidence will be key to the government's case. what i have reservations about is evidence that was developed by the intelligence community. for instance, in some cases the government may not be willing or able to produce the source of the evidence in court. furthermore, the evidence may be the fruit of information obtained by foreign intelligence or foreign investigations. this information could lead investigators down the line of questioning during an interrogation that they would have to explain in court. if trying these cases in federal criminal courts is ultimate goal, what solution does the fbi propose to address hearsay evidence exclusions. and just one follow up question, will the fbi implement a policy to have it a miranda warning. are they currently mir andizing detainees? >> i think at the heart of the issue the prosecution is not the limited goal of every interrogation. >> sure. it may well be intelligence gathering, but by the same token you should not av

this is a statement that the prosecution will bring back to haunt someone that would take the stand asa witness. >> i think so. if that mother ever took the stand and they spoke to her about knowing her daughter the best and she's in the best position to judge the credibility of her daughter and what was the basis of her doing so, it would help the prosecution tremendously because she'd be locked into that prior statement. >> and the fact is this has also taken the focus away from haleigh cummings. this is still a little girl that is missing, a little girl that needs to be found. and tonight, tonight "cnn heroes." >> announcer: this is "cnn heroes." >>> i was abandoned at a hospital number 20 at birth. >> i was adopted at 11 1/2 months old. >> first time we saw alex he had rickets and was malnourished, fell in love with him immediately. there's my son. let's go home, son. >> hospital number 20 gave me a chance to survive. and i'd like to give something back. i'm alex griffin, and i'm building a playground at the hospital where i was adopted from. >> everyone get plates. >> i've been a

former cia directors want the attorney general to balk off from prosecuting rogue interrogators. peter hoekstra is the ranking republican on the house intelligence committee. he joins us now from washington. thanks for being with us. eric holder said it is going to be limited to those who went outside the already very permissive guidelines approved by the bush-cheney white house. this is the preliminary stage so why shouldn't he proceed? >> i think you have to take a look at this in the context. these individuals, it was identified way back in 2004 that some people might have gone outside of the box, the permitted box of what they were entitled to do. the cia self-reported this. it was reviewed by congress and the justice department. the cia held some individuals accountable through internal procedures and the justice department did prosecute one individual from breaking the rules and breaking the law. they prosecuted them successfully. >> that is the case of someone who died in afghanistan, at the hands of an interrogator, in afghanistan. >> i believe that is correct. yes. we hav

collection of organizations coming together to make it so that this will be, you know, the best possible prosecution cooper, we have 30 seconds before the break. but going into this case, how difficult, what kind of delicate balance do you have to strike when you prepare somebody like jaycee to take the stand? >> it will be difficult because these are the people she did live with and identify with for so long. she realized she's in a bad situation. the best approach is to just go with facts. try not to dwell on the emotional aspect. my guess is she's still confused about that. >> we have much more ahead on jaycee dugard and the man coming forward claim took her biological dad. he even wants a paternity test. we're taking your calls. >> welcome to comcast local edition. my guest this hour is dr. faye williams, national chair of the national congress of black women. thank you so much for joining me. >> it's always great to be here. >> now, for those that may not know, what's the mission of the national congress of black women? >> well, we are an organization that works with the community, mainly with

now the prosecution also brought up the fact, saying they have evidence that he was on a suicide mission, mentioning that there were funeral plans that he had made, checks he had written to his son, something they plan to bring up during the hearing that is expected in the next 30 days as he undergoes that exam. he will appear before the judge, judge walton, again on october 14th. we're live at the federal courthouse. sarah simmons, fox 5 news. back to you. >> sarah, thank you very much. >>> a man accused of carjacking a woman is behind bars this morning. this wild story started at the metroparking ramp. police say the man forced the woman into the trunk of her car at gunpoint and drove around for about an hour and dropped her off in lorton. she called police and officered spot him and chased him. he crashed and took off. he was caught later. metro drivers said they will be more aware. >> i'll try not to change my habits. i'll be a little more aware but i'm not scared. just look around a little more and make sure my door is locked and watch my wife as she goes along. >> he's facing charg

if the ultimate goal of the administration is to prosecute high-value detainees in article 3 courts, he development of evidence will be key to the government's case. what i have reservations about is evidence that was developed by the intelligence community. for instance, in some cases the government may not be willing or able to produce the source of the evidence in court. furthermore, the evidence may be the fruit of information obtained by foreign intelligence or foreign investigations. this information could lead investigators down the line of questioning during an interrogation that they would have to explain in court. if trying these cases in federal criminal courts is ultimate goal, what solution does the fbi propose to address hearsay evidence exclusions. and just one follow up question, will the fbi implement a policy to have it a miranda warning. are they currently mir andizing detainees? >> i think at the heart of the issue the prosecution is not the limited goal of every interrogation. >> sure. it may well be intelligence gathering, but by the same token you should not avo

>> that is the core of the prosecution, that coach stinson denied max opportunities for water breaks i think richard is right. the fact is that in fact, the judge ordered the jefferson county prosecutor to turn over records and one of those records was the chief of emergency services at the university of louisville med center, who said, and this is the prosecution witness, that the cause of death was an accident, it was not a homicide, it was likely caused as you said by the medication rather than the dehydration. reasonable doubt, no conviction. >> on a side note, this report was just turned over to the defense. >> when they were selecting juries this week. >> a year later. let's talk about what's happening in arizona. a preacher says let's pray for obama to die. but wait a minute, richard. aren't we talking about -- i mean, isn't this borderline treason? how do you get away with this? >> put your seat belt on. i think this preacher should be arrested right now. you cannot go into a crowded movie theater and yell "fire." i would argue you cannot stand in front of a congregation like

the prosecution claims the two students, along with another man, sexually assaulted and murdered knox's roommate, meredith kirscher, an exchange student from england. the trial now in its ninth month could be extended until next year. the judge according to court sources is considering calling in a special forensic investigator because the crime scene evidence presented by the prosecution and defense is wildly contradictory. >> they have to take the extra 60 days to get the right answer knowing that it should be an acquittal. it's very unfortunate, but we'd like to bring her home as quickly as possible. >> reporter: the length of the court case has some lawyers wondering if knox can get a fair trial. >> people will forget. people get sick. judges could be substituted. same with prosecutors. really, it is a very, very bad thing because it could have effects that go beyond, you know, lo's right and who's wrong. >> reporter: complicating the case is the 350 pages of documents relating to dna evidence that the prosecution withheld from the defense. the judge has appeared exasperated at the

throughout the entire trial they never relied on the notion that he was sick the prosecution tried to shoot her down really quickly. not only did she contribute to the legal defense fund, she also attended the same church as that coach. today they will hear from -- tomorrow they will hear from experts. why we do not expect to hear the exact statements that the case should not be pursued, it will be the last piece of testimony. the jury will have the case by tomorrow afternoon. shepard: the jury has up -- the judge has already laid out some ground rules? >> she said it would be a black and white decision. he will be found guilty of endangerment, reckless homicide, or an acquittal, it will not be an instance where he is guilty on one charge and not of another. he is looking at one of five years in prison if convicted. they could deliberate for some time. he is the first high school coach to be responsible for a heat related death, if found guilty. shepard: remember this crash from july? a neighborhood in milwaukee. a mom and two kids trapped in an suv. by standards called folks, -- byst

this is huge for the prosecution and the defense is trying to get it suppressed. you've got that former senator/attorney actually negotiating with john travolta's representative, and you're right, john travolta's representative is going to be the one contenting to all of this, that is a party to it. not actually, but criminal activity can be documented. then negotiating a sum that the paramedic wants to keep this document undisclosed from the public. not only did we hear amounts wantered back and forth, but we hear travolta's representative say, this is a crime. so we know knowledge of criminality is important in bahamian law. this is critical evidence for the prosecution. >> janie weintraub, i have to ask, if they got it all on tape, why do they need anything else? why do they need john travolta or anybody else to testify? it's on tape, caught. >> we're not sure exactly what was on tape and how it was taped. whenever there's a tape recording or video tape, the legal issues are simple. you can't deny what's happening but what you can question is whether or not it

bill laffitan, the prosecution apparently has him going in and out, in and out, in and out obsessivelyn areas where he's not supposed to be according to our sources according to the basement. he did have access there. but around the time all of this was happening, how does that technology work? >> well, that's pretty standard, nancy. you see that -- that's a very mature technology. you see that on credit cards. it's just magnetic strips and even if you've checked into a hotel and got an electronic key card, it's simply a database record is created for you at the security site, probably at yale security. and in that -- when you swipe your magnetic card, it simply sends your identification information back into the security database and the database checks to see if you are authorized to enter that area and that was done ahead of time. if i are, the door unlocks. and this is not technology that can be lawyered, if you want to call it that. it's very secure. >> unless they have cameras they could easily argue that his swipe card was missing or stolen. there's all sorts of ways to get arou

of course, the prosecution does not have to prove motive at trial. but police refer to it as workplace violence. i don't know what that means. because it's pretty rare that you manually strangle your 90-pound co-worker to death and stuff her body in the wall. any idea what he means by "workplace violence"? >> reporter: well, the police chief would not comment on reports that there had been some e-mail exchanges. this based on, according to various reports, on the condition of some of these cages that contain the mice. the police chief wouldn't comment on that at all. but that gave us some indication into some of the conditions at work. he was the lab technician looking after mice. this police described their relationship. he was the guy who would clean cages that these lab mice -- where they were held, she was the ph.d. student who did research in that laboratory in the basement of that building at yale where her body was found on sunday. >> mary snow, mary snow, what is he doing bunked up at the motel 6 when he has an apartment that he shared with h