another hat which is you're on the board of the telecommunications commission, the sponsor of the show. you've been to a few of these, what's the message coming out of the show this year? >> guest: well, susan, you're right. it has been, i think -- i've been coming to these for about 30 years, and i have to say the energy is terrific. it's terrific. i think it has to do with a lot of the excitement around the new, the new services that we're offering. tv everywhere, kind of the convergence in our sector with new competition, new opportunities, new ways to engage with our customers through, um, video experiences maybe that they haven't had before. so we're really, we're really delighted with the energy at the show, the turnout is slightly ahead of where we've been in the past couple of years. and i, here it is 4:30 in the afternoon, and it's just a hive of activity. so i'm thrilled. >> host: amy tykeson of bend broadband, also a member of c-span's board of directors for which we thank you for your contributions. >> guest: happy 30th birthday to c-span. >> host: thanks very much for your