. >> so, again, this is homeland security, janet napolitano, at the trenton train station, talking about the awareness campaign. if you see something, say something. definitely wants americans to report anything they see that seems out of the ordinary that could be suspicious. it is a campaign that's been running in new york city for quite some time and now broadening out. >> the point is, if you see something, say something. that's for individuals, suspicious activity reporting is a different type of training being offered to front line law enforcement personnel. so we are grateful for the efforts and the partnership we have with the state of new jersey. we are grateful for the support senator lautenberg has offered to the department of homeland security and we look forward to our efforts moving forward. now, let me end this by introducing lieutenant colonel hatfield to talk about new jersey's efforts. colonel? >> thank you. >> again, janette pnapolitano, the homeland security secretary, on a day where the big news we are covering is the patdowns at the airport. >> not only did they sea

once again, the trenton mercer airport in ewing, new jersey.by high win. >>> and we'll be right back. stay with us.

. >>> a powerful storm hit the east coast this morning, this is at the trenton airport in new jersey.eral planes were blown over by 65-mile-per-hour winds. the winds also knocked down some power lines. >>> let's check in with steve paulson for our forecast. >> today's not too bad. temperatures are running a little tooler than yesterday. but we still have a lot of 60s and some very low os and some fog has actually returned to the coast. not making too much of an impact. from about point reyes down to the coast. haze in the air. sanrafael, 66. temperatures will continue to inch downward. mostly sunny today. a few high clouds. mainly north bay. mostly sunny south bay. more clouds on the increase. dealer-- cooler and cooler with rain. it looks like -- it looks cold with a lot of cloud. some wind and rain. umer 40s to very low 50s on the highs. the first part of this system is just staying to the north right now. we get the sunshine. a few of these higher clouds are inching through and a lot of cold air is bottled to the north. highs today. some areas are warming up and 60s and 70s. still

i got a report from the trenton airport that because of the severe thunderstorms, they've had little palestinians flipp flipped -- little planes flipped because of the gusts. new york city had a severe thunderstorm warning. the storms headed for new york looked nasty but then weakened. that's not the case from yonkers northward along the border of connecticut and new york, a line of severe storms is going to be rolling through connecticut shortly. if you're heading out the door in connecticut over the next hour, you are going to have to go through this line of storms. it's moving quickly. only going to last 10 or 15 minutes. but when it does so, visibility will get poor driving on the roads. you'll also have to deal with strong, gusty winds and downed trees around the region. let me show you a wider view of the storm system. a batch of very heavy rain continues now through boston, providence, northward, portsmouth, portland, maine, to manchester. the severe line of storms is shrinking a little bit. it really goes from the capital district, albany's connected to detroit, down southwar

this is video coming i to us from new jersey where strong winds toppled planes at the trenton mercer airport. we are hearing reports that the wi also blew off several roofs in that ea. >>> here at home, the video from massachusetts avenue northwest washington, this is at the naval observatory. massachusetts avenue is completely blocked there. strong winds also blew off several roofs in the brentwood neighborhood of northeast washington. there's always some trees and wires down in arlington and fairfax counties. >>> power outages in arundel county. the middle school is closed today to both students and staff members. arundel middle school. no power, no school. live team coverage of all the severe damage all moing long. stay with us. >>> some airports make life easier on travelers. ronald reagan is number 10. washington dulles is number 136789 baltimore-washington bwi, 15. daily beas website came up with the best and worst list. at the top of the best is phoenix sky harbor international. worst airport for the second year running was newark liberty international airport. >>> the latest r

we are told roofs were ripped off some buildings in the trenton mercer airport. >> big thunderstorms rolling right through the carolinas up through the mid-atlantic and now north and east of new york city and lots of lightning along the way. very impressive line of storms, severe thunderstorm warnings, possible tornado northeast into baltimore. >> gosh! >> hard to believe it is the middle of november. not typical weather for this time of year as we all know. later today, good weather in the form of southern and warmer temperatures. let me give you the heads up we will have more winds around here later today. we have a wind advisory. i'll show that to you in just a second. temperature are mild. when you step out the door, you will say it feels great out here, feels kind of tropical. mid-50s to start the morning. 56 at reagan national. 55 in quantico. the mountains, not so bad. 5 # in martinsburg, 53 in hagerstown. nice start, temperature-wise. that is part of the good news in this forecast. another part of the good news, we'll get more sunshine. i'll show you why in just a second. wind

mid-atlantic region and here in the northeast. 55-mile-an-hour winds flipped over small planes parked at the trentonr airport. look at this video. this is just outside of trenton, new jersey. in maryland, thunderstorms damaged at least 200 homes in baltimore city and baltimore county. the roof of that building just splintered. the national weather service is investigating whether a tornado actually touched down there and throughout the region. more than 80,000 customers lost power. fortunately, despite all of that damage, we've not gotten any reports of injuries at this time. mike seidel joins us live now from the weather channel headquarters in atlanta. mike, where is the storm now? >> well, the storm is now moving into canada, but we still have a lot of wind on the backside. let me take you back to last night. the remarkable thing about this system is the time of the day that it hit. and also the time of the year, mid-november. we had warnings out from after midnight until early this morning. the thunderstorm warning ran until about 5:00 a.m. this morning. this is 24 hours out, the big spin in the

this is at the trenton airport in new jersey. e several planes were blown over by 65-mile-per-hour winds. the winds also knocked down power lines affecting a lot of people in the area. >> pretty powerful. >>> 8:41 is the time. oil, grease and trash is ending up in the rivers. the local transit agency the epa is going after. >>> and dan victim's hero pilot -- danville's hero pilot will be joining us in the studio. >>> what's left out of tina fey's award speech when it was broadcast on tv? Ñw? >>> police 234 antioch are searching for the suspect who shot and killed a man outside a 7-11 store last night. police say they questioned the person who was with the shooting victim. that investigation continues. >>> jury deliberations have started in the chandra levy case. the defendant is facing murder charges in her 2001 disappearance and death. her stories made national headlines when she was romantically linked to gary condit. authorities no longer believe condit was involved. >>> and this morning a crime scene investigator goes back to

these pictures are from the trenton mercer airport. also blamed for ripping the roof off a hampton inn outside of philadelphia so it's a rough start on this wednesday morning. meanti meantime, let's go to mr. kilmeade who has a guy who is suddenly very, very rich. >> or is he? you know that big $78 million deal that quarterback donovan mcnabb signed are the redskins that left many scratching their head. it makes more sense. it turns out washington if they decide to cut him after the season, he'll barely owe them $3.5 million. lot of money to us but not to him. mcnabb, by the way, having a horrible season. he threw three interceptions against his ex-team on munonday night and is the 28th ranked quarterback in the league. did you hear what eagles wide receiver deshawn jackson had to say about the team's big win following a fight before the game? he said this "the pregame altercation got us going. it had us ready. we came back into the locker room pumped up. we were like pitbulls ready to get out of its cage." jackson's quarterback is mic

the power lines knocked down leg trips to to 20,000 customers around trenton. crews still assessing the extent of the storm damage. >> the high winds still blowing around here at this hour. tom? >> a couple of good things. we have some good news. the wind advisory has been canceled, expired. we have wind gusts, but nothing damaging. don't think we'll see an investigation of the possible tornado downtown. they are investigating the storm up in baltimore as a possible tornado. we were here until 2:00 yesterday; and for the most part, they were just incredible straight-line winds. some of the storms were moving at 70 miles per hour. right now the winds are -- you know, they're still out there. 25 miles per hour wind gusts downtown, and 28 miles per hour wind gusts up in hagerstown, but nothing exceeding the 20s, which is good. no 30s or 40s, like earlier. temperaturewise, about average. feels cooler with the wind. 54 in andrews, 52 in frederick. cross the quidivide and in the 30s for oakland. for tonight, keeping it partly cloudy. breezy and colder, lows 38 and 44.

now it's really new england gel gteing all the nasty -- getting all nasty storms. severe weather in trenton, new jersey. the airport had a receive ripped off, planes were flipped over. pretty serious storms in the last two or three hours. now the storms are racing through areas of the berkshires in massachusetts and extreme areas of western connecticut near danbury. boston is getting drenched this morning. it's windy, too. we've seen wind gusts in pittsburgh at 31 miles per hour. it's raining in new england. and if it's not raining, it's going to be windy today. one of those days. it's warm at least. temperatures are very mild. in the 60s in some cases. you don't even need the heater on in the car. the bottom line is if you live north of new york city, bring the umbrella. south of new york city, you're okay, you'll be dry. but you will be on the windy side. southeast is cool but fine. a little rain in kansas city. dallas looks just fine. chicago on the cool side, too. but the worst weather by far, providence up to about boston. >> all right. check the schedule for the airport up there. >> y

when a tree fell and the lines caught on fire. it's near trenton. several small planes flipped over in 55 miles per hour gusts. a lot of storm damage coverage continues online. log on to our web site, tbd.com, under the weather section. pepco's plan to keep the lights on for area residents will pay off. customers in gaithersburg, rockville, and potomac qwest of 270 should experience fewer outages-- west of 270. the system reroute power automatically. it's a five-year plan that was announced in august after the summer of outages that left hundreds of thousands of people without electricity. >>> the fate of the man accused of murdering the d.c. intern chandra levy is in the hands of a jury. the defense and prosecution finished their closing arguments in the case of ingmar guandique yesterday. both sides are waiting for the verdict anxiously. courtney robinson is live outside d.c. superior court with the latest. >> good afternoon. many are waiting on this verdict. the jury began deliberating at 9:30. they are still deliberating. according to the prosecu

i'm just trying to think of what it is on the bridge from trenton makes -- transit train makes the worldthat's an old signed. >> host: i know. if only, if only. >> caller: exactly. i agree with you 110%. he cannot compromise. he did compromise. you made some examples, with the health care, with a public option and many other things. >> host: he gave with the public option to try to get some republican votes. how many did he get? >> caller: exactly. and they consider, not just republican, but republican supporters. and less they get everything that they want, and we get very little for nothing that we want, it's not a compromise. so, you know, i would just like to say they need to get up the sound bites, democrats need to take up sound bites remember hello? it should be like hell freaking know. makes sound childish, but, you know, what, it's effective in people when they listen to that kind of stuff it motivates them. that democrats need to do a better job of communicating our positioned. >> host: amen, anthony and i appreciate the fact you said help freaking out recognizing we are on c-s

the storms are racing. this is out of trenton. the winds 55 miles per hour, at least flipped over planes at the airport. 80-mile-per-hour winds near baltimore. a suspected tornado there, as well. this has been a rough morning. now, the storms will completely clear the boston cape area and work their way up toward maine. after that, much-drier air. but a very windy day. most places in the northeast will keep winds at 50 miles per hour. gorgeous in the southwest. we'll talk more about that later. >>> quite a different picture of this morning than we had 24 hours ago. we have a beautiful sunrise with mostly sunny skies today. this camera is shaking because the winds are already increasing. it will be a very gusty day today. 54 degrees in chevy chase. we have wind advisory from 9:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. which means wind gusts 30-50 miles per hour. sonny and mid-6 more weather in the next half hour. top stories will be the gusty winds in the northeast. and a brand-new system in the northwest. robin? >> sam, thank you. >>> retailers ever

the storms are racing. this is out of trenton. the winds 55 miles per hour, at least flipped over planes at the airport. 80-mile-per-hour winds near baltimore. a suspected tornado there, as well. this has been a rough morning. now, the storms will completely clear the boston cape area and work their way up toward maine. after that, much-drier air. but a very windy day. most places in the northeast will keep winds at 50 miles per hour. gorgeous in the southwest. we'll talk more about that later. more weather in the next half hour. top stories will be the gusty winds in the northeast. and a brand-new system in the northwest. robin? >> sam, thank you. >>> retailers everywhere are getting ready to flood the market with royal engagement memorabilia. >> look at the swans. william and kate. we'll be showing you some of these for the rest of the morning. >>> also coming up, the two, most important women in prince william's life. diana and kate. the tale of two princesses coming up. >>> pop diva, rihanna will be live in our last half hour.

the unexpected victory at trenton was washington's great moment of redemption. although americans would leader remember the terrible weather on the might of the crossing before the attack, a free and other american soldiers struggled much more with the conditions of the return trip back across the delaware river on december 26. the second crossing so rough a free thought he might fly. quote, we were greatly distressed with a very cold storm of rain, hail and snow which blew with great violence. i was extremely chilled and came near perishing before i could get to a fire. a free also sol washington's critical victory at trenton has orchestrated by ghana. adverse weather and fierce british troops could not ultimately stop what avery saw as a holy struggle for freedom. avery was present, too when british general served the great army to the americans at saratoga, new york an october 1777. he hoped to invade upstate new york and cut new england off from the rest of the colonies. a move that avery and others feared would allow the british to unleash french catholic an

look at the pass from trenton and charleston with the lead.with they of the 13 points. cougars led by 8. reid is 37 all at the break. charleston builds another lead. that gave the cougars a 7 point lead but again the terps rolled back. freshmen keshon howard hitt the puncture. maryland escapes with a hard fought 75-74 victory. >>> the nfl is going to do nothing about the alleged sitting incident. there will be no fine and no suspension for ravens pull back lebron mcclain. that word came from the nfl. they say there's no conclusive video evidence to support this conclusion. unless you have been under a rock, the linebacker claimed that the mcclain spit on his face. they reviewed the video and the reports from on field officials including the refer rewhoowas standing nearby. mcclain who musting thrilled with the vindication maintained all along that he didn't do it. >> the referee was right there. i moved on from there. a quick turn arounddand you know, and prepared for another game. that is bii behind me. he can keep doing what he is dding, man

in new jersey this morning, strong winds overturned small planes on the ground there in at trenton mercer airport. rest of the country, a rough day in the northeast. rain and gusty winds there. in the northwest, an approaching storm bringing rain and snow. cold and breezy conditions cove, >>> 13 minutes past the hour. that's your weather. now here's harry. >> jeff, thank you very much. >>> we're going to take a break and be right back. you're watching "the early show" on cbs. and all through the house... whoa, that's grandma. [ grandma ] ...nothing was stirring, not kara, not maya... how does she do that? magic. [ grandma ] ...grandma loves you. [ both ] goodnight, grandma. [ female announcer ] be there to read them a story every night. read it to me again. [ female announcer ] hallmark recordable storybooks. this christmas, make it wonderful at your hallmark gold crown store. - oh, we miss you, honey. - i'll be home soon. until then... tommy? - behind every open heart is a story. - it's beautiful. - tell yours with my open heart collection at kay jewelers. keep your heart open, and love

the police and gestapos would be there to keep us from leaving our communities. >> guest: well, i absolutely disagree with you on that. if my late grandfather in trenton, new jersey, in one of the most impoverished sections of town was able to instill in his sons, my father and my uncles, that these are the norms and this is the way, this is the key, this is the path forward, then our parents can do that now. they were impoverished, they were in an urban area, they didn't have any hope if you looked at it on the surface. but it was that infusion of you do not let other people tell you what you can and can't do, and you will make it out of here. and my grandfather, god bless his soul, instilled that in my brother and i. i can assure you neither he nor my mother's parents who are still living, they wouldn't let us accept failure as an option. >> host: you were blessed in that. >> guest: so very blessed. >> host: in this conversation we've talked about your personal stories, we've talked about capitol hill and the white house. we haven't talked about that other branch of government where clarence thomas resides. he's been called a lot of things, and one

>> guest: i absolutely disagree with my late grandfather in trenton new jersey and the most impoverished sections of town could in still that these are the norms and this is the key or the path for word our parents can do that now they did not have any if you look data on the surface but the infusion that you do not let other people tell you what you can or can do and my grandfather bless his soul by a sure you knew there he marek mother's parents would not let us accept failure i am so very blessed 27 we talked about your personal stories and capitol hill and the white house and not the clarence thomas part he has been called a lot of things and a lot of them is acting why did you have a discussion with him about this subject? >> guest: i can think c-span for the opportunity to ring gauge the conversation. there used to be a time at the "washington journal" brought young capitol hill staffers in on saturday morning and you just to get out and talk about issues in the most respectable way and then working for dick armey she said the justice was on c-span and i said i think he is great an

the extradition. powerful storms ripped through new jersey overnight. at an airport near trenton, several small planes were flipped over. high winds this morning triggered a gas fire. the winds knocked down power lines and power lines burst into flames. that's crazy. >> wild weather creating problems. >> so far, we see straight line wins. it's called spas -- it's possible one-year baltimore could have been a trade of. that was just a few blocks from my old elementary school. severe thunderstorm line in the summer, to get one late-night in december, it's kind of rare. hopefully things will settle down and we will be good to go. first up, let's make a couple of stops -- just east of the city, 54 degrees and temperatures heading down after a high of 62. gusts of 45 miles an hour this afternoon. 53 in alexandria. 61 the high and when that 12 miles an hour. gusts of 45 miles an hour recorded a career. this is a preliminary -- an early look at some reports. wind damage widespread that swept through last night. reports of pale, lightning and thunder. the storms so far total 73 from last

the sun gets up there, it will heat us up. temperatures near 60 today. this will feel warm compared to lately, filly to trentonnew york city. not bad, boston to albany, that's where we should be this time of year, in the mid 50s. looking warmer, boston has a chance of getting near 60. by sunday, gets cooler and partly cloudy. we're dry, so it looks like a nice weekend. the problem weather of today, if you're traveling from oklahoma city, possibly dallas, definitely kansas city with thunderstorms later today, maybe even minneapolis or des moines, that's where all the wet weather is in the middle of the nation. on the back side, the storm exits up into canada on the back side of it, looks like a chance of snow in minnesota. some areas could get three to six inches. veronica, overall, much of the country looking okay on the east coast especially. >> all right. minnesota beginning to look a lot like christmas it sounds like. >> it's that time for them. >> thanks. >>> can will ferrell's animated comedy "megamind" make it two in a row over the weekend? or will denzel washington ride a runaway freight train to number

the police were there prevented us from leaving our communities. >> guest: i absolutely disagree with you on that. if my late grandfather in trenton, new jersey, in one of the most impoverished sections of town was able to instill in his songs, my father and my uncles, that these are the norms and this is the way, this is the key, this is the path forward, then our parents can do that now. they were impoverished, they were in an urban area. they didn't have any hope if you look at it on the surface. but it was that infusion of you do not let other people tell you what you can and cannot do and you will make it out of your and my grandfather, god bless his soul, installed that in my father and by and neither he nor my parents' parents, on my mother's parents who were still living, they wouldn't let us accept failure as an option. >> host: you were blessed in that. >> guest: so blessed. >> host: in this conversation with talked about your personal stories, about capitol hill and the white house. we haven't talked about that other branch of government that clarence thomas resides. he's been called a lot of things, and one of them is

the controversial members including body scanning and invasive security pat downs. speaking in trenton new jersey, napolitano launched a security campaign, see something, say something ahead of the thanksgiving holiday. >> now as we head into this year's busy holiday traveling season, we're here also to ask and talk about the important role that each individual can play in helping keep us safe and security. and to remind the traveling public to maintain a sense of vigilance of awareness. if you're traveling by train, my mass transit, by air or other mains. >> charlie: president obama spoke about the means for increased security in a meeting in portugal over the weekend. >> one of the frustrating aspects of this fight against terrorism is that it has created a whole security apparatus around us that cause a huge inconvenience for all of us. but at this point, psa in consultation with our counter terrorism experts have indicated to me that the procedures they've been putting in place are the only ones like now that they consider to be effect stiff against the -- effective against the thr

the high winds. we call it wicked weather around here. this is video from west trentonjersey, where overnight the storms flipped over some small planes. and we're told that the roofs were ripped off buildings at the trent mercer airport. you can really see the power there. >> the planes there and knocking down trees here. >> kind of bad. >> a surprise. we saw the thunderstorm activity developing yesterday but not this intense this time of year. particularly during the nighttime hours. so a lot of energy and the winds and severe thunderstorms, possible tornado north and east of baltimore, very impressive stuff. >>> around here today, much quieter weather, as far as rainfall is concerned. we'll have a lot of sunshine but still very windy at times. the winds could reach dangerous levels at times during the course of the day today. let's get to the numbers and we'll talk about the wind advisory. and here is the bright spot in the forecast, it's nice and mild out there. feels tropical. a little humidity out there. >> when you say tropical, i think humidity. >> it is. it's hu

the winds and downed power lines damaged small planes. national weather service says a wind gusts 55 miles per hour barreled into trenton airport. wind advisory 20 to 25 miles per hour winds and it's the effect on the garden state. they are cleaning up. but people around the area woke up this morning look around wondering what happened. >> you know, i was shocked -- >> now, maryland's most powerful doppler radar and forecast certified most accurate by weatherrate. >> he wanted to jump in. >> he is always going to cut us off. >> you know, any time you wake up with a thunderstorm it's a shock. in november is really a bigger surprise, but i know it was on this -- wyatt was here until two in the morning. >> wow. >> he loves weather. >> so do you. >> you will hear a couple new words when we talk about this damage. let's go to the radar. what it looked like at 1 chn 30 when it was blowing through. look at this distinct line i wanted to point out firsts air -- first off the area of baltimore city and parkville where the winds potential reports of gusting up to 80 miles per hour. that's where the damage assessment was. strongest wind gus

shannon: powerful winds pounding parts of the northeast and the gusts caused a huge mess. check out trenton, new jersey, 55-mile an hour winds knocked down seven small planes and knocked out power to tens of thousands of people, the storms tore through jersey and philly. lots of folks woke up in the dark this morning. >> i supply every army but the salvation army. >> part one, two or three. >> i've only seen parts one. >> by the mid '80s my weapons were represented in eight of the world's top ten war zones. >> you get rich by giving the poorest of people on the planet the means to continue killing each other. >> say what you like about warlords and dictators, they always pay their bills on time. shannon: that was a clip from the movie helicopter lord of the war" and we're told that movie was based on the life of this guy. viktor bout, known as the merchant of death. right now he's in court in new york city, the feds say that bout would sell his poweringful arsenal of weapons to anyone with cash and he liked to target americans. k.t. mcfarland is analyst and former deputy secretary of defens

the other thing that in trenton, those of you who have read it, i, after 9/11 i went to the pentagon a couple of times and i was actually fairly critical of the military. i'm a veteran that i was in the army. i said all a solid laptop worse. there are no groups passionate boots on the ground. i can tell you today in many ways the u.s. military really gets it. many of our soldiers have been in afghanistan, iraq, three, four, even five times. i was at fort drum, the 50 plus since 9/11. with the understand is about building relationships, it's about empowering the shuras and the elders. it's also about really working with the people. and the example i would like to share with you is, last year because of the surge, we want something to happen. you double troops in the country, you expect nothing should happen. right? so there was a massive military operation planned in southern afghanistan from kandahar all the way to pakistan, to certain areas of pakistan and rat out the shadow taliban government, and bring more government there. this operation called operation -- it means hope. there

work their entire term, regardless of the outcome of an election year the last three months, there is still work to be done. host: trenton, texas, republican, stephen. color been a good morning. i appreciate c-span and the ability to have -- caller: good morning. i appreciate c-span and the ability to have the common man's voice heard. but put money in the hands of a common family. -- let's put money in the hands of the common family. we will not have the bailout unions or other entities that are trying to get into the american people's pockets. this money is hours to begin with. these men need to know that liberty is from the people and not from the government. host: thank you for calling in. this is from the "philadelphia inquirer." gop divided over leader -- phillip elliott rights that a significant block of national republican members want embattled michael steele to set aside but have failed to agree on a clear alternative. more than four dozen interviews with members of central committees found that feared that a badly-damaged steele could emerge from the wreckage to head the party. most agree that his time has bee

the government? host: 1 idea out there. and a final call from trenton, new jersey. caller: it seems that he is being disingenuous on a couple of points. to start off with, the lady who was talking about the terrorist threats, i think he was referring to sharon angle second amendment remedies. and as far as jobs going overseas, it sounds like you're saying we're in a recession because we do not make cars anymore. host: a final fogh on the las galt -- a final thoughts on that last call, or conservatives in general and the campaign. guest: if we stop trade between the u.s. and the rest of the world tomorrow, we would see an economic catastrophe here in the united states that would be unparalleled. if people are concerned about the economy, we should not be setting up a wall around this country. prices would go up, selection would go down, and jobs would fall right off the table. host: david keating, director of the club for growth. thank you. it will take one more brief time out and spend the last 45 minutes of the journal talking about some specific house races to watc

we have two from trenton, new jersey, so i do not know what that style is. will theand all from new york. justice kennedy sent the west coast. -- we have several from new york. i like to think there is a particular midwestern style that is comfortable for most people, and it is the way i still comfortable interacting even with lawyers on the bench, but i am sure depending on the question, lawyers may not find it so pleasant. >> as a related question by one of our students asking whether your experience in going to a catholic high school had an effect on your development as a lawyer or thinker? >> it was a guy's name. and it [laughter] i was very fortunate. and i had a great experience in high school. it was a very small school. 100 students for four grades. you cannot hide. you got a lot of intense education. you had the chance to do things you and i have a chance to do anywhere else. i played on the block alfootbal. i am sure that was an important factor in shaping my views on certain things. >> there is a question that relates back to the public's understanding of

. >> host: you kind of in trenton can use them quite a bit of time with woodrow wilson, and do you credit him with the founding of "liberal fascism" in america? >> guest: no. this is one of the things again, and on the critics, david greenberg, "slate," a couple of people at "new york times" about why are people being of wilson now. one of the defenses of wilson that you get from a lot of these guys is, you don't understand, wilson was popular. he can't be dictated. he was by the of course he was popular. that's what mussolini was popular. hitler was popular. dictators almost by definition start out popular. that's why they become dictators. you can't be a dictator and much of the masses with you. and so in many ways, the on i make in "liberal fascism" is that woodrow wilson was feeding off of the intellectual currents of the age, that he was, he was riding the wave as aware of american progressives. and his ideas were a natural consequent of these ideas of start with william james' concept of the moral boom of the war, there tied it with things that jane addams had to say, that teddy roosevelt is a.