what i do about slavery, i do to save the united states. by the third year of the war, lincoln and the majority of the people in the united states had come to the conclusion that restoring the union was not enough. they would never be a permanent united states so long as slavery was allowed to exist. as horace greeley observed, slavery is the cause of treason and everywhere sustains it. slavery had to be destroyed and the nation was to be eunited. otherwise, slavery would continue to threaten the long-term stability and security of the united states. if the united states and not eliminated what had caused the war it would only be a matter of time it would have to send troops to suppress another rebellion. by ensuring lincoln's reelection and the united states' victory in the war, the fall of atlanta sounded the death knell of slavery and rescue democracy from the threat of secession. each time we recite the pledge of allegiance we reaffirm the civil war established united states as one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. o

a lot of this is fueled by our drug use in the united states. sume more illegal drugs than anywhere on earth. 80% of the cocaine from latin america is being funneled through honduras. you have the cartels and the gangs vying for those routes. that is fueling a lot of this violence in honduras. >> and a comment of some republicans, for example, the hill saying some republicans allege lacks enforcement of immigration laws by the obama administration is wanted more more illegal immigrants to send their children and that the deferred action for childhood , is up foraca renewal, prompting republicans to link it to the surge of child migrants -- i think it was senator rubio in florida saying the rumor is out that only children will be able to stay. so they're trying to get their children here, sonia? >> it is certainly true the smugglers will use anything to pump up their business. they are certainly telling thele, once you get into united states, you're home free. they're lying to people. that may be helping to generate business for them. senator rubi

are separating to two camps and they're fighting bitterly about this some do not of course want the united states to begin cooperating with iran they are fearful that this will have a very bad effect on israel and saudi arabia others believe that counterterrorism is of the utmost importance and that iran can help the united states beat back isis and al qaeda in the region. professor landis i would have to discuss that iranian angle a little bit later but before we go there there were certain medias framing of the events in iraq it is very predictable they're sort of putting all the blame on. government he felt to build the functioning democracy here alley and they did the sunni's and i think we can admit that some of that criticism is valid but the question is could it be different person have done a better job is it fair to put all of the blame on al maliki and instead of looking somewhere else let's put it this way well a lot of this is domestic politics president obama is down the polls there are elections coming up midterm elections coming up and the republicans are very eager to hurt

. >> across the world soviet missiles are aimed at the united states. whatever the president does, he risks nuclear war. whatever the president does, he risks nuclear war. >> lines are drawn. >> 25 russian ships en route to russia to what they be a collision course. >> no way of knowing whether western civilization will live or die. >> i think unless something is done, humanity will destroy itself. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> early on in the '60s, you have this backdrop of tension. you have capitalism versus communism and it was palpable fear. in the united states and in the soviet union that the two sides were going to get into a nuclear war. >> temper of the world is crisis. architect of the crisis, khrushchev. >> as they headed the soviet union, he was ideological. he believed that the future belonged to communism. he said, america needs to be contained and the only way to do it is to create crises all around the american empire. >> khrushchev came to the u.n. in 1960s and said we're grinding up missiles like sausages. we'll bury you. americans took it seriously. >> th

except to attend the united nations. you do have the major populations centers of the old world, the two biggest countries, china and india, in terms of population and largest country in terms of geography, russia, alienated from the united states and it is very difficult to see american hegemony surviving that. finally two other factors. inadequate resources, according to projections of the results of the budget sequester that was recently agreed upon in congress, u.s. defense spending will go down to slightly more than 2% of gdp in the 2020s, which is probably adequate for most of our actual defense needs but i would suggest it is woefully inadequate if you wish to be the eurasian hegemon in perpetuity. the public rebelled in 2004, 2005, 2006 and against costs of iraq and afghan wars. that is one of the main reasons return to democrats in power in 2008. barack obama became the democratic nominee largely because unlike hillary clinton, he had opposed the iraq war. and most recently we've seen first the british public and

the united states in many ways was really the first up state. africa, the south founding fathers of apartheid did not intend [indiscernible] >> all of that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. sunni militants in iraq have reportedly executed up to 190 captives in the northern city of tikrit. the massacre took place earlier this month according to human rights watch. the news comes as iraq he prime minister maliki faces increasing pressure to resign for failing to unite the country or beat back ends by the islamic state of iraq and syria, or isis. another round of 50 u.s. special operations troops have arrived in iraq to act as military visors on the crisis. president obama has asked congress for $500 million to train and arm syrian rebels. if approved, it would mark the most erect military role in the conflict to date following more covert forms of support for the rebels. the request comes amidst growing concern about the influence of isis militants in both iraq and syria. obama

russia and europe on the one hand and russia and the united states on the other. this is a first step. it does not guarantee success, but at least it is a first step in the right direction. >> a hugely powerful reminder of the horrors of war, really, but let's talk more about franco-u.s. relations. you are, after all, from the american university of paris. how would you characterize the state of relations between paris and washington? there have been ups and downs over the years. where would you say we are now? >> you have to look at the structural dimensions of the relationship and then what happens on a day-to-day basis. structurally speaking, franklin american political and strategic relations are quite strong. france reintegrated the nato military command. it has participated along with the united states in military interventions. whether they're successful and not is another issue. along with the united states, i libya andcipated in provided support in france's sub-saharan africa intervention, so there is very tight collaboration at a military level. there is

we in the united states are accustomed to seeing jobs go overseas. that's been had in the last six decades. in the past these were almost exclusively to call your shots, factory jobs. in other jobs that are potentially in shape ready or white collar jobs, office jobs, jobs in the service that are not necessarily entirely ordinary office work. potentially at risk are jobs that require considerable education and training to perform. jobs done by doctors, lawyers, architects committed years, even ultimately, god for bid, by professors. trade in services and the export of jobs to countries like india has the potential to trigger a substantial political backlash in the united states and other rich countries for two reasons. first, the jobs potentially at risk are much more numerous than in the past. there are many more white-collar service jobs than blue-collar fact or he jobs. so more people are affected in decade, some of the people whose jobs may be at risk in here of course i exclude professors are people who are politically influential and are in a po

here's not something the united states can do for them. that's not something, by the way, the united states armed forces can do for them. we can provide them the space. we can provide them the tools but ult patly they are going to have to make those decisions. in the meantime, my job is to make sure that american personnel there are safe. that we are consulting with the iraqi security forces and we are getting a better assessment of what is on the ground and that we are recognizing the dangers of isil over the long term and developing the kinds of comprehensive counterterrorism strategies we will need to deal with this issue. that's going to involve some short-term responses to make sure that isil is not obtaining capacity to endanger us directly oral ice and partners. it also will require long-term strategy as well. it is a broader trend that i talked about at west point. rather than a single network, discreet network of terrorists, this fluid combination of hardened terrorists p. disaffected local leadership, and where will's vacuums. the

interest of assad himself because sure isis presents a significant threat to syria but so does the united states wind up being the best interest of assad to make sure that americans are preoccupied. with isis in iraq as much as possible so that he could that actually deal with his security issues on his own well you're absolutely correct that america is facing a very difficult dilemma in syria as it is in the entire middle east its national security interests in fighting al qaeda and counter terrorism concerns versus its national desire to promote democracy to defend israel and to harm iran and russia to a certain degree by taking down this long time opponent assad so americans have been very eager to weaken assad the trouble is they thought that they could weaken assad and keep a syrian state causing some kind of political transition towards a democratic government we are seeing that that is not the choice it's not a choice between democracy and assad it's a choice increasingly between sunni rebel groups who are chaotic and becoming increasingly radical and an assad dictatorship and the

previously, she was the united states ambassador to the united nations. she has received criticism for perceived entrenchment and foreign policy. >> ultimately, global leadership requires us to see the world as it is, with all of its danger and uncertainty. we have to be prepared for the worst, prepared for every contingency. but american leadership also requires us to see the world as it should be, a place for the aspirations of individual human beings really matters. where hopes and not just fears govern. where the truths written into the founding documents can steer the currents of justice. >> welcome. >> it is great to be back. >> the president making a series of speeches. is he defining obama doctrine? >> for good reason, one is wary of the term "doctrine." i think what he is saying is really crystallizing what has animated his foreign policy from the outset. the united states is the most powerful and important country in the world. we have been for a long time and will be for a long time. in recent years, our power has increased when you consider our

states house of representatives, members of the united states senate, the speaker of the united states house of representatives, and the vice president of the united states. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, the speaker of the united states house of representatives, the honorable john boehner. >> mr. vice president, members of congress, ambassadors, members of the diplomatic corps, ladies and gentlemen, welcome this morning, and welcome to the united states capitol. since the days of the american revolution, every congress has had one humbling privilege. that of awarding a gold medal for extraordinary contributions. the highest honor that we can bestow. the first recipient in 1776 was george washington. the father of our country. today under his gaze, we will present the gold medal to another founding father, the 9th president of the state of israel, shimon peres. mr. president, welcome. [ applause ] like general washington, shimon peres has served his life serving his country, even before there was a country to serve. he is the great brougprototype israeli statesman. a record 48 y

that's not something that the united states can do for them. that's not something, by the way, that the united states armed forces can do for them. we can provide them the space. we can provide them the tools. but ultimately, they're going to have to make those decisions. in the meantime, my job is to make sure that american personnel there are safe, that we are consulting with the iraqi security forces, that we're getting a better assessment of what's on the ground and that we're recognizing the dangers of isil over the long-term and developing the kinds of= comprehensive counterterrorism strategy we're going to need to deal with this issue. and that's going to involve some short-term responses to make sure that isil is not obtaining capacity to endanger us directly or our allies and partners, but it also is going to require some long-term strategies, as well. because part of what we've seen with respect to isil is a broader trend that i talked about at west point, a -- rather than a&trz single network, a discreet network of terrorists. this fl

the congress of the united states. you give expression -- to unbroken spirits of the american people. it was expressed, 237 years ago, when you signed a document that still echoes all the time. life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness -- those words resonate with as much meaning today as they did when america's first patriots wrote them. they have inspired generations of americans to dream of a better america. they have inspired people all over the globe to dream of a better world. many people call me a dreamer. i suppose. that is why i have always felt that home in the united states of america. [applause] america was given the privilege to carry the dreams of humanity. my own dream was to be a shepherd. it came true, you know? [laughter] i watched the sheep, not to lose one. at night, i watch the sows, in order, not to miss one. the dreams of a young sheperd were interrupted by david, israel's george washington, who called me to serve when i was 24 years old. he entrusted me with heavy responsibilities. he made me

this is when the iraqis need the united states. we got a fascinating window into some of the past negotiations when he said the iraqi government was resistant to accept u.s. offers of any kind of help military training and thip things like that. when they have now face this d crisis, they actively seek american help. so the president is saying we now have leverage, so we'll ask you to make some of the political deals and political compromises that you have not been willing to make. unless you you make those, don't expect major american assistance. it feels as though he is putting the pressure on maliki and staying pretty cool in the face of this very turbulent situation. >> and achristiane amanpour, he expressed concern that these terrorists, he call it is the isil, islamic state in iraq and lavant, others call it the isis. it's the same thing. different names called by different people. but he clearly is concerned also about a potential sunni terrorist attack on shiite shrines which could further explode the situation. >> well, tha

that's not a secret that has been going on pretty well since the united states discovered itself as a great world power around about the time of the korean war now president obama has approved twenty three million dollars worth of military aid to ukraine sense march has recently announced u.s. is sending advisors and gear to the country while the newly elected president's ukrainian president wants more military aid from the united states what more can he expect well you can well what you can i mean it's all aggressive provocation. it seems almost incredulous that they should be doing this to be on russia's border. and provoking in the way they are doing. it's almost as if. nato a bomber and the rest are trying to set a trap. for letting me approach than. it's an incredibly difficult time for russia. these as we all know where about to celebrate celebrate we're about to commemorate the scent. of the first world war that began yes partly by design but it also was triggered by a number of incidents and any war can happen that way that's my experience as a war correspondent although. ther

session of the united nations security council, the united states, cuba and russia offered separate ed bitter charges. >> do you, ambassador, deny to the ussr has placed and is placing medium and intermediate range missiles and sites in cuba? yes or no? don't wait for the translation. yes or no? >> i am not in an american court room, sir. therefore, i do not wish to answer a question that's put to me in the fashion in which the prosecutor does. in your due course, you will have your reply. >> i'm prepared to wait until hell freezes over if that's your decision. >> each side didn't know what the other side was doing and there was a lot of room for miscalculation. >> we believe there are about 25 soviet ships moving toward cuba. if the vessel does not stop, refuses to heed the instructions, force will be applied to assure that it does stop. >> nikita khrushchev said soviet ships will never submit to the united states blockade. >> the next few days are critical. who is going to blink first? ere. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the e

that is one thing hawks and doves in the united states agree on. is really military option is not a bad one. the u.s. military option is much better simply because the united states has the ability to destroy iran's nuclear facility, even if the soviet come. this would set iran and nuclear program back, it hard to estimate how much time, most estimates range from three to seven years but this is a worst case estimate, these are estimates assuming iran decides to rebuild and doesn't to counter any significant obstacles but if you start to assume politics and geopolitics happen, that time line becomes much longer. one of the things i talk about in the book is the countries that historically had their nuclear facilities attacked, not to germany during world war ii, iran had its nuclear facilities attacks during the iran/iraq war, the israelis had a strike of their own and the united states and the coalition followed up with strikes of their own. syria in 2007 had its nuclear reactor attacked from israel. one thing i point out is in all those cases the

and come up with a position for the united states. and one thing i have learned in the course of my time in the government is that process, thorough, fair, transparent process is absolutely critical to resolving those kinds of conflicts and coming up with the best judgment about what the position of the united states is. i learned this lesson the hard way, and i learned it in the first job i had that justice kagan described when i was in the deputy attorney general's office. i arrived about six days, i think, after president obama was inaugurated which was five days too late to avoid the hot potato which had been passed from one to another of the people that got there before me. and the hot potato was to figure out what the administration ought to do about the use of the state secrets bring in litigation. -- privilege in litigation. there had been some criticism of alleged abuses of it, and the president and the attorney general wanted a new policy, and i got charged with figuring out what that new policy ought to be. and fresh off my

we do have the ability to express as clearly as we can the united feeling of the people of the united states about what is happening in china and we hope and we pray as we said to the chinese ambassador that our can have anconveyed impact on what happens in that country. lot of question about should we do this or that in terms of sanctions. momentaryl have disagreement about the right things to do. but we today and every day from here on out want it known that there is absolute unity in this country of feeling about what is happening in china and what we hope will happen in days ahead. people to stop give people due process and give people clemency and get their country back to the situation where democracy can rain. we had a very wonderful cooperation with the ranking member, the ranking republican member of the foreign affairs committee putting together this resolution and i am very happy he is here today and i welcome his statement. >> briefly, i would like to say that i think this was the work of the majority leader and working with the minority, a bipartisan approach. the message

he had with him the name of a relative in the united states. was told as soon as he got across the border look for somebody in uniform. don't show any resistance and present yourself, which he did and now he sits in a facility in texas. this is a horrible humanitarian situation. the numbers that are involved here. i just want to give for the record the numbers that have been reported here are worth noting. some people may think they are talking about hundreds of children. this year, this year alone as of june 15, unaccompanied children apprehended by the border patrol from honduras, 15,000. guatemala, 12,000. el salvador, 11,000. mexico, 12,000. almost 80% of these kids come from three countries honduras el salvador and guatemala. why are they coming here? they are coming here for a number of reasons. number one, there is this network, criminal network that gives -- gets money to transport children children and they promise the families we will get them to the border. god only knows what's going to happen to those kids on their way. some of the

national authority over the property of the united states. just as we could imagine that the president would be compelled to use troops to retake fort benning. lincoln also knew that if the united states did not put down the confederate independence movement, and the country was torn asunder, the enemies of democracy around the world would reclaim that republics cannot work and that government of the people, by the people, for the people would perish from the earth. united states had passed a first test in self-government during the election of 1800 when thomas jefferson defeated john adams. both sides abided by the results. for the first time, power was successfully and peacefully transferred from one party to another. constitutional government and the rule of law have prevailed. the outcome was different in 1860. having won every election prior to that point, proslavery southerners saw their candidate defeated by lincoln. rather than submit to the first president openly committed to the eventual extinction of slavery, slaveholders in the dee

take what they can from the rations from the iranians from the syrians use their intelligence unit is that manpower and rely on their military and then sort of push isis back into syria back into perhaps even the iran you know essentially kill all those birds with one stone well you're absolutely right you bring up a very very difficult problem and i think i think that washington is toying with the idea of some kind of repost with iran on the question of iraq and syria because iran today is the most stable country in the region it's we with iraq and syria falling apart with saudi arabia in the midst of a question of who's going to become king next the iran is a source of stability in the region and it's why it's got a strong military it's what it dislikes isis and al qaida so. of course it's very there are many dangers in teaming up with iran for the united states if america looks like it's siding with the shiites and with iran to kill sunnis and to damage their interests this will alienate the gulf our our longtime allies it'll alienate the saudi arabians already some qatar cutty's h

it had masblg state enabled cybertheft from the united states. and in deed, we have been engaged with the chinese on this. i talk a little more broadly about it. i think there has to be a cost. the chinese didn't perseed any costs this. they certainly used the snowden revelation, as you pointed out, as a pushback, with respect to the dialogue we had with them. but very important to get back to this dialogue, and very important to reject the equivalent argument that the chinese might back between espionage, right, and a criminal cyberactivity. and cyber enabled economic theft. they're different things. the chinese conversation has to go beyond that to say this is going to affect the overall quality of the relationship between the united states and china. that this is going to be something that's going to be repeated directly by the leadership of china by the highest levels in the united states, and it's going to affect the overall quality of the relationship. it can't have a circumstance, this is a conversation we have to have with the chinese dire

the issue here is the responsibility of the president of the united states defending the people of the united states against attacks. he has a dudey to carry them out consistent can the values of the united states and constitution. he has duty to carry them out and respond. i applaud the very way in which this administration has taken that responsibility. they've looked at it. >> michael boyles , if that definition had been beefier, more defined to decide what it is, would you feel it is even more an issue? >> i think those exist. this over all decision , and the memo does not discuss the issues that i just raised. the issue of threat. when someone is sitting there with their finger ready to press a button, yes, i think everybody would yes that you could orde agree that yes, you could do that. but that's where you have to have responsibility, and i believe the administration had met that test, and i think this memo is not part of everything, it's not the answer to everything . >> in the push of the release of the memo, it's out, what do you make of what you saw? >> the release of this

this crisis is not exclusive to the united states. much of the western hemisphere is reeling with this crisis. according to the united nations, these children are streaming into mexico, panama, nicaragua and belize as well as canada and the united states. from our perspective, we seem to be barraged on a daily basis by troubling images of vulnerable children, many still clutching their dolls and teddy bears, crossing the border into the united states and being immediately apprehended by border patrol officers. this fiscal year alone, the border patrol officers have apprehended and detained over 50,000 unaccompanied children at the southwestern border. the number of kids arriving at our border without their parents seems to grow by the day. the influx of these kids has certainly strained border patrol resources. but the men and women of the border patrol have risen to the challenge. in 2008, then president george bush signed a william we believe force trafficking victims authorization act. t( law recognizes that special kay is demanded

across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. t up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. >>> this is more than just an obscure shia/sunni conflict. this is al qaeda, and al qaeda is not on the road to defeat. al qaeda is on the march. >> that was paul wolfowitz on sunday, a man sounding very much like his 2003 self. apparently choosing to gloss over the sunni/shia schism in iraq and preferring to focus on labeling any violent terrorist group in iraq as al qaeda, even if the new group now threatening baghdad is not technically al qaeda. the pro-invision crowd has crept out of the woodwork attempting to rehabilitate their own record on iraq often by attacking president obama for not fixing the things they broke. even former british prime minister tony blair got in on the act this weekend. he wrote in his editorial the 2003 invasion has no bearing on events today. we'll discuss that in a minute. because there is one more atten

the united states, therefore, war determined to see the signs and do things differently. expansionist aggression in its tracks and ideologies emist with ideas of political freedom and human worth. we would keep the ideals and the of totalitarians at bay. in a world where global threats fanaticism lay just beneath the surface, america had to projectits defenses and its principles. speaking in broad strokes, what world war ii policy makeser understood was that american to be both cy had principled and wise. more than ever before, american had to pay cy attention to both power and ideals. i believe that this forgotten pertains, that american foreign policy at its best combines moral and practical concerns. e e es -- emphasizes the security of the free world ecessary where global threats lie just beneath the surface and niversal rights essential to promoting and preventing human dignity. policy ican foreign today downplays both power and ideals. it revolves around negotiating being careful not to offend them, offering them concessions in exchange for ruthlessness confined wit

he knows how veterans are treated in the united states. ing for some reason, i don't understand what he was driving at, but you saw the secretary of defense get irritated by the questioning as jim pointed out. the implication is for some reason they're holding him at the u.s. military hospital in germany for some extended period of time and he's raising the suspicion that this may be inappropriate. he could be getting better care here in the united states. what do you make of that? >> i got to tell you, i agree with jim. i think in all the time i've covered chuck hagel, i have never seen him so flat-out publically angry. i think perhaps what the congressman might have been suggesting is why has bowe beg daul not yet been officially, legally interrogated? to the best of our knowledge, he is not under going legal questioning. he is in this cocoon if you will of medical care of the repatriation process. not deemed yet ready to be undergoing any kind of legal questioning. even if they brought him back to san antonio, for further repatriation co

it is not only in the united states. did not generate the same kind of rising -- >> one of the arguments made -- you finish. this may somehow change itself. what you have seen may change in its own evolution because of the rise of technology, providing a way so that there will be a lessening of income inequality. >> the rise of technology will lead to a lessening of income inequality, maybe, maybe not. >> how could it? >> lessening of inequality, well, there is a technology called change benefit to allow everyone to become more productive, even more so for the lowest groups. i think the opposite outcome is possible. in any case, we don't want to leave to the capricity to technology the decision. we want to forces and the common interest. if we want to make sure they always act in the common interest that every group benefits from growth and benefits in a balanced manner, then we need an adequate democratic institution to make sure this happens. >> how many copies have sold so far? >> a little bit above 400,000 in the eng

if you go back 20 years to where the united states u.s. sted the world cup, it hasn't changed in 20 years but, a lot of those sporting broadcasters will be watching and the audiences should be up and they are certainly investing millions of dollars and theepg that sport grows. of course in miami you've got people like david beck hawm who will be launching his own team. but a lot of enthusiasm from what i'm seeing. >> andy gallagher, from correlate gables, florida. ines is back with that. >> you could have been watching the germany versus portugal. in an area where they are allowed to bring their living room furniture if they want to. in lisbon, robin writes, giant tv has sprung up all over the tv and people all milling around. this is in mexico, some construction workers here, they have made this table out of a wooden plank here, the television set, right here. in mexico city, enrique pena nieto was celebrating. and students in guatemala, even they watch. >> i'm tony harris, inside story is next on al jazeera america. >> the battle lines ar

is backing up with economic loans and so is the united states both financially. and militarily and. advising the ukraine certainly the u.s. has a big role and i think the united states looks on this as a. ukraine as a real prize. and i know a friendly government in ukraine to the united states of course is better than a government that's friendly to russia and i think you know the e.u. has behaved really started this crisis by saying it's all or nothing ukraine and i think you know ukraine really has to nestle between the two blocks and it also has to have autonomy in the east simply because of the political situation there whether we'll get to that point i don't know but certainly there is a tug of war there to try to. ukraine from the russian influence you know markets it's very interesting i've been said something to i think is absolutely compromising no negotiations if this is a this is insanity here and this is what's causing all of these deaths you know pushing all mention decentralization federalization that's been talked about for months now all the sudden he talks about it i

that that it's a very intriguing mix all the reasons why the united states has behaved the way it has in ukraine partly it is about strategic influence partly it is about business partly it is about. provocation there are all different degree difference. this of ministration in washington has been doing some very strange things always also most. and i'm going to guess. and attempt to be a bomber administration to reassert its. having really been trumped by russia over syria we're going to get to that in our second part of the show well first we're going to take a short break when we're back we're going to continue talking to john pilger a veteran journalist and author we'll talk more about the impact and the extent of american global ambitions to stay with us. divisions within ukraine are becoming greater with each passing day the western backed regime shows no interest in compromise or negotiations at the same time civilians in the east continue to die is going for broke. some people say that when it happens in time not a very nice one the curtain goes down. point and i could no long

moves to the united states and they can be identified, then they are released to the parent in the united states. but ultimately, unless they can prove some basis for persecution, they're going to be returned to their home countries. pays the coyotes and smugglers? it depends on the particular situation. host: many get your reaction to what the president said in his interview with abc news. is, under current law, once those kids come across the border, there's a system in which we're supposed to process them, take care of them, then we can send them back. >> [indiscernible] >> our messages, don't send your trainsn unaccompanied on or through a bunch of smugglers. that is our direct and such to the families and central america. do not send your children to the borders. if they do make it, more importantly, they may not make it. guest: i think that is what i was trying to say. when a child arrives without an , tot to accompany him reunite them with somebody who's going to be responsible for them if they can identify them, then call them back in for hearing to decide their ultimate fate, whe

so what can the united states do? m a journalist, not a think there are different schools of thought. the iraq he government -- the iraqi government, those close to prime minister maliki, they want airstrikes. they would want more intense intelligence support from the united states. i was talking with a former u.s. commander yesterday who was saying the intelligence that we are providing now is minimal. it is probably -- he was going to give me numbers, but i would say there has been an additional 100 to 150 people rotting in recent months to provide intelligence support. if you don't have people on the ground, you can develop the sources for targeting. >> i was just want to say, the is connected is incredible as the fighters captured tikrit a push toward baghdad on wednesday. the senate foreign relations committee, i don't know if you watched yesterday, met to question president obama's nominee for the next ambassador and reported, not a single senator asked him directly about the apparent loss of control by the iraqi

that's what caught even the united states float footed. it's how easily the iraqi forces have laid down their arms and now they've looted banks of millions of dollars. senator graham says the worst may be to come. >> the iraqi army is in shambles and without some kind of intervention, baghdad is definitely in jeopardy and most of the sunni areas are iraq will be run by isis and they will join forces with those -- with their colleagues over in syria. and i worry about the king of jordan, i worry about lebanon being next. >> by the way, the irony here, iran may be the most helpful country to the united states' interests right now with what's going on in iraq. but let's move on. at this hour the country itself appears to be devolving into a sectarian civil war. you have the northern oil city of kirkuk has been taken over be the kurds. in an odd twist, iran is sending its own elite forces which is now, by extension, fighting on the side of the united states. on thursday president obama met with his national security team to discuss the options