thomas: he is invited every time. tom: weaker growth and stronger markets is the conundrum that our viewers space right now. thomas: the tightening of financial conditions. when does the bond market, when do the rates peak? are we close? we think that we are. the next point becomes, we become forward and move through this economic pain quite quickly. i think there are a lot of challenges. it is not suggesting that they will not see price pressure, but they should outperform. jonathan: it is not just the equities drop. they were the epicenter of what was happening in equity. we are at 350 right now. thomas: it would be the cause of economic pain in the year ahead. everyone will be out questioning how severe that will be, the merits of a financial crisis are not there for us. marcus will be able to respond on a moving forward basis. when you look at bonds, across the whole platform, you have a triple threat. you have a price appreciation. you had bond prices at 105. to your point, our clients are under invested in this

thomas's wife. the january 6th committee has thousands of more attacks to and from mark meadows and this week, talking points memo has been publishing many of them. a public hearing on monday next week, the january six will vote on possible criminal referrals that they may choose to make to the justice department. at a press conference this afternoon, house leader kevin mccarthy was asked about the january 6th upcoming report. >> miss the january six committee's gonna release a final report. are you or any of your colleagues may be referred for criminal. >> answer last question, no, not at all we did nothing wrong. >> many of donald trump's staunchest allies in the house of representatives are currently making life for kevin mccarthy in his quest to be speaker of the house. when the next congress is sworn in in january, the washington post reports, in the house far-right members are continuing to make demands of minority leader kevin mccarthy and exchange for their support as he desperately works to

>> my heart goes out to thomas hutchinson. 11 years before adams on the other side of boston, thomas hutchinson, the two are both fifth-generation massachusetts, they have identical educations but thomas hutchinson, adams is digging himself into an economic hole, is thriving. hutchinson begins to add to his fortune while still at harvard, marries into a wealthy family, member of the massachusetts house of representatives by the time he's 26 and in everyone's estimation he's the first man of boston. titles gravitate in his direction. is a distinguished looking man, 6 feet tall, dresses beautifully, he had letters to his taylor in london, extremely specific, and there's a great deal of resentment against him on which he doesn't quite understand because of his success and the fact this kind of constellation of titles attach themselves to him, titled he does not claim for himself, he distributes to family members and that tight oligarchy, intermarried elite families is something that irritates samuel adams tremendously. and john adams even more. john adams moore or john adams is more elo

not the on one. >> in 2010, 19 years after you testify in the hearing, ginni thomas, clarence thomas'ssaid about her husband. take us back to that moment when you come home, i assume you push the button and listen to the voice mail. >> i was shocked but i actually thought it was a prank. i thought this is someone pretending to be ginni thomas and this is a joke or is it? i don't know for sure so i waited until i went physically back to the office and said let me see what is on the caller id. there it was, name, number on the caller id. not knowing what to make of it, i called my campus security and said is there any way to find out who this is and what they're doing so they don't do it again? not interested in this. so i guess i was surprised, maybe shocked that it in fact was ginni thomas. i had really no idea what to make of it but i knew this, i knew i didn't want to enter tan t -- entertain that call on voice mail or face-to-face. it was something i was clearly not going to apologize for 1991 and i didn't in fact believe the call was a sincere attempt to reconcile anything and that

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so for example, the animosity with thomas hutchinson, they clearly both despise thomas hutchinson. i mean, each of them, you know, think he's the greatest threat to american liberty. and that's before the stamp act. and there's no reason to accuse thomas hutchinson of this or to have such violent hatred him. but john commits that to paper and doesn't. so john seems as if he's the more intemperate of the two my guess is they probably i mean john says we saw eye to eye on this kind of thing so my is that they were probably of about the same temper but that samuel who is can be a charmer theon of restraint shows it less and i would say that in all i think we can agree john adams was a fairly impulsive and impetuous player. one thing that distinguishes adams as a revolution, mary, is that at various junctures he will actually make an extraordinary case for slowing things down or tamping things down. this is a moment to be patient. this is not a moment to resist openly. so he's very canny in that respect. and i would i would say probably more even tempered than was john. to to one is si

thomas denied putting any pressure on her husband. told the committee i can guarantee my husband has never spoken to me about pending cases in the court. it's an ironclad rule in our house. he's uninterested in politics and i generally don't discuss my day to day work in politics. i did not discuss at all my day to day work in politics. but some of the transcripts suggest that might not be true. let's bring in former federal prosecutor and cnn political analyst and managing editor margaret. margaret, let's recap and remember the text exchange between ginni thomas and mark meadows in which she sort of uses code and refers to someone as her best friend and i remember there being speculation for weeks about was she referring to justice thomas? so here it is. she says mark meadows says to her, okay, after the election this is a fight of good versus evil, evil always looks like the victor until the king of kings triumphs. do not grow weary in well doing. the fight continues. i've staked my career on it, at least my time in d.c. on it. ginn

and she said this about justice clarence thomas.a list. >> justice thomas would be well advised to recuse himself from boots baiting in matters that relate to this. and so is the case for the other cases. >> peter, you and i -- i mean, i would argue that recusing is the bare minimum. that's the case to impeach clarence thomas for which he'd been involved in. but you and i both know there's any kind of recusal coming from him, unless democrats unanimously, consistently, largely banging the drum for him. peter, we know that. >> well, i don't know whether he's listening to democrats, honestly, if republicans, there might be thinking something different. look, if joyce knows better than i do on this kind of thing. the supreme court justices are the only ones who are not required to follow the certain. cote's decide to recuse themselves individually. the one person who might have influence perhaps cranston this might be chief justice roberts if he were, you know, to find this troubling and to make a point of bringing up with him. but you

thomas denied putting any pressure on her husband.ittee i can guarantee my husband has never spoken to me about pending cases in the court. it's an ironclad rule in our house. he's uninterested in politics and i generally don't discuss my day to day work in politics. i did not discuss at all my post election activities but some of the transcripts suggest that might not be true. let's bring in former federal prosecutor and cnn political analyst and managing editor margaret. margaret, let's recap and remember the text exchange between ginni thomas and mark meadows in which she sort of uses code and refers to someone as her best friend and i remember there being speculation for weeks about was she referring to justice thomas? so here it is. she says mark meadows says to her, okay, after the election this is a fight of good versus evil, evil always looks like the victor until the king of kings tru triumphs. do not grow weary. the fight continues. i've staked my career on it, at least my time in d.c. on it. jeginni thomas responds thank y,

hutchison they clearly both despised thomas hutchison. each of them think he's the greatest threat to american liberty and that is before the stamp act. and there's a reason for this violent hatred but john commits that to paper and a samuel doesn't so sam seems as if he's the more intemperate of the two. my guess we saw eye to eye on this kind of things so they were probably about the same temper about the samuel who can be a champion of restraint shows that less and i would say in all things we could agree that he was a fairly impulsive and impetuous player. one thing that distinguishes him as a revolutionary is at various junctures he will make a case for slowing things down as a moment to be patient and not resist openly and i would say more even-tempered. >> two questions. one is simply john and adams were cousins? >> second cousins. >> can you say a little about the family background, grandparents, whatever if you think of any bearings in terms of what each of them did and secondly, such a, seminal figue has he been much less addres

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go ahead, thomas. well, let me just backtrack a little. what author just said, i don't see china as a colonial power at all. i see china looking after its national interest and it has a national interest in having access to energy. it has a national interest in secure c lanes. it has a national interest because it's a massive, massive manufacturing power and being able to trade. and i see that is really what is driving china's global engagement. of course, it also has a national interest in as, as a regional superpower, immediately in the south china sea. and of course, as, as a major, powerful nation as having a respected position in the global system. and i suppose that that's really the tension between the united states and china, the united states is trying to deny china all of that. as regards saudi, the saudi visit. yes, this is very interesting because saudi arabia has been the linchpin of u. s. power in the middle east. and i think one of the interesting things, i think you can begin to connect some of the dots here. some of the st

court justice clarence thomas. trump aide, and longtime correspondent, and jared kushner, and rudy giuliani that read the ridiculous -- to overturn the 2020 election. she told the committee that she never spoke with her husband about any of the challenges to the 2020 election, and she did confirm though, that the supreme court justice is the best friend that she references in her tax. terror then chief of staff mark meadows. and she told investigators that she regretted check texting, the chief of staff about having a coup. tony told the panel, the first time he heard the story about trump's fight with a secret service agent going to pass the law. with from cassidy hutchison. she told the committee, about what they told her about what happened. jared kushner faces a lot of i don't know and i don't recall answers to stop -- on november the 5th. rudy giuliani shows that he considered the committee's interview quote, illegal, and he thinks that trump won the 2020 election. he told the committee that he put together qu

thomas is looking after thomas duties looking after thomas duties looking after thomas duties lookinger thomas senior full time here are all together with sam who we know is in a wheelchair really struggles to travel meghan is missing out on so isn't she and what's so sad is harry is now missing out on that two ladies with his own family. now michelle children which i know are on out on an and uncle a grandfather . but let's not a grandfather. but let's not forget that meghan has also very mischievously played ashley the way she done samantha's daughter did she feel about that two days because your daughter seems to been used in some of pr campaign by meghan to sort of make that she's reconnecting with the markle family in some way, even though she's still cutting her father, her brother and her sister right and think i think it was a low blow. try to manipulate my daughter. clearly she knew that my daughter and i were back in touch i think to weaponize her. i think to clearly this there's grey zone to lie to her and tell her that the royals made the decision that she couldn't go the

it is obvious that ginni thomas has an interest. was an active participant in the attempt to do something like the independent state legislator theory which was before the court on the argument on wednesday, and clarence thomas happily participated anyway. he was a very active participant, in fact some of his questions were particularly pointed. he tried to trap the defenders of a democratic approach to this, the opponents of the independent state legislator theory, by saying do you think that you would still be arguing this if the state legislature had thrown lines that were to favorable for racial minorities rather than the other way around. if the highest court of north carolina had said that violates an anti affirmative active provision of our constitution, he obviously thought he had trapped somebody. he did not succeed, but by trying to show it is a question of who -- he showed a spotlight on his lack of disinterest in this matter. the trouble is that that statute and anyone else has come up with, cannot be enforced directly.

thomas is looking after thomas duties looking after thomas duties looking after thomas duties lookinger thomas senior full time here are all together with sam who we know is in a wheelchair really struggles to travel meghan is missing out on so isn't she and what's so sad is harry is now missing out on that two ladies with his own family. now michelle children which i know are on out on an and uncle a grandfather . but let's not a grandfather. but let's not forget that meghan has also very mischievously played ashley the way she done samantha's daughter did she feel about that two days because your daughter seems to been used in some of pr campaign by meghan to sort of make that she's reconnecting with the markle family in some way, even though she's still cutting her father, her brother and her sister right and think i think it was a low blow. try to manipulate my daughter. clearly she knew that my daughter and i were back in touch i think to weaponize her. i think to clearly this there's grey zone to lie to her and tell her that the royals made the decision that she couldn't go the

that's an interesting way of looking at thomas. you know, i think we're the, this, this whole mindset about western globalization is reflected in joseph burrell. blogs, you know, where europe is the garden and everywhere else is the jungle. i mean, if that isn't the neo colonial outlook, i don't know what is commerce? no, you, peter, peter, you're absolutely right. there is a, i like the expression that the previous author just use hubris, pride goes before a fall, and i'm not that has sort of what has happened to the u. s. project which i agree initially. initially, there was some good intentions that but the united states has been captured. i mean on both sides about political aisle by this neil con view that the u. s. has to be globally hedge a monic, and that is community looking at it. we don't want to be to the definitive about these things whose good, whose bad they are. all sides is always a mix, but it violates the most fundamental principle of the global order that made all else possible. and that goes back to the west tr

he also asked, whether ginni thomas, wife of court justice, clarence thomas, who we know, was very activethe stop the steal movement, very active in trying to push supporters to the capitol, or to the rally on january 6th. he says, he does not recall any conversations with jimmie thomas about january 6th. i thought it was interesting that the committee is asking about germany thomas we know there's, interested in toasters and firing. is that rich kyle? >> they did bring her in for a closed door interview that, as far as i understand, was not particularly fruitful. they didn't learn anything from her that they had already assumed, before she went in, or have seen in the text messages. but, the fact that they ask about her, in this interview with kim cockakoeske was a june, and their second conversation with him. we still don't have the transcript of the first one. they called him back for a reason, asking about jimmy thomas. i think, because she bubbled up to the surface is an interesting player to them at, around that time. >> barb, can we just talk about unity thomas for a moment? she is

let's talk with ginni thomas. she defends -- she still defends her beliefs that she believes that the 2020 election was stolen, which it wasn't. can she have it both ways here? >> well, when i went through her transcript, i had the impression she was evasive. she wasn't remorseful in general about the fact that she had made these comments and sent these texts out. she was regretful that they had gotten -- they had been released and became public and that she accused of committee of leaking them basically just to embarrass her, which was not the case. i think she really was uncomfortable throughout her testimony. her attorney testified a lot for her, which i have never seen a chair let happen as often as it did in this deposition. it's an odd collection in this deposition. >> paula mentioned this, that ginni thomas testified that the best friend she referenced in the text exchange with mark meadows was, indeed, her husband, clarn ence thomas, whos a supreme court justice. what did they discuss? thomas says, i wish

it's absolutely thomas, i can go to you. i mean, the globalization, when it was 1st conceived, it was quite popular and people were quite supportive of it because it will make the world like the west. well, that's not really panning out the way they thought it would. it is a matter of fact there's a lot of dissolution with it. even in the west. i mean, the us seems to be moving away from it and creating its own block that hence what i had to say at the end of my introduction, you have a eurasian block, an american block that is subjugated europe. we're seeing it, we're seeing it falling apart. fragments go ahead, thomas. well, let me just backtrack a little. what author just said, i don't see china as a colonial power at all. i see china looking after its national interest and it has a national interest in having access to energy. it has a national interest in secure c lanes. it has a national interest because it's a massive, massive manufacturing power and being able to trade. and i see that as really what is driving china

[ thomas sighs ] >> thomas it was never meant to be hurtful or destructive. brooke is always in the way when it comes to your relationship with dad. so i removed her. it's as simple as that. >> steffy: how did that turn out for you, thomas? you must be so pleased. now, dad went to brooke's. mom's wedding is ruined. j

clarence thomas was a heel that's for sure. but he wasn't alone.hereas i think donald trump really alone, on his self is responsible for hurting the republican party in ways that it will take almost a generation to come back from and when you look at donald trump talking about 2022, he never talked about it. rev, he went to all these campaign rallies he wasn't like barack obama getting into it, doing turnout for candidates he went there and talked about 2020 and himself it was all about donald. so not only was he a bad surrogate, he hurt candidates. and imagine a former president, and right now the leading only republican candidate for president, he wasn't welcome in georgia. they said no thank you >> which is unthinkable. >> crazy so i think he really was a heel's heel. >> a heel's heel >> danielle, give me some heel's heel from you. >> i have to say i have to give it to clarence thomas. clarence thomas, you know, we look at justices, the supreme court, as these esteemed thinkers these analytic, you know, people who are literally above the rest of

this is ginni thomas. you for the question, congressman raskin i cannot say at the time i was familiar with any specific evidence. i was just hearing it from news reports and friends on the ground. grassroots activists who were inside various polling praises the founding suspicious so i don't know. i was not an expert on the fraud and irregularities that we're starting to be talked about. ginni thomas drafted a letter to go the other direction she. sent a letter to miller to have electors replaced because she argued there is evidence of voter fraud, which under questioning from congressional committee she said she never knew anything about. >> what a great question for congressman raskin. some of the sometimes for these liars it's best to ask them open-ended questions and get them to expose themselves. everyone was complicit it's not just her. none of them had specific voter fraud issues because there weren't any, right. there was a group of people that imagine in hallucinated be the voting machine voting

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they clearly both despise thomas hutchinson. each of him think that he is the greatest threat to american liberty and that is before the act. there is a reason to have such violent hatred of him. he seems as if he has the more contemporary of the two. my guess is -- john says we saw eye toy eye on this kind of thing. all bubbly up about the same temperature. the restraint shows that less. in all things, fairly impulsive and impetuous player, one thing that distinguishes adams as a revolutionary set at various junctures he will actually make an extraordinary case for slowing things down or tamping things down. this is not a moment to resist openly. i would say probably more even-tempered than with john. >> two questions. one is simply, john and samuel were cousins. >> second. >> could you say a little bit about the background, whatever. in terms of their predecessors on what each of them did. and, secondly, such a seminal figure. has he been much less addressed? how would you explain that. everybody knows the name. why would hist

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we have thomas polly. he is founder of the economics democratic and open societies project. and in bristol, we cross to johnny brower. she is a spokesperson for the world anti imperialist form, as well as the author of dr. to war against russia and china, right cross cross and effect. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. are there, let me go to you 1st year. we didn't get a lot of coverage in western media, but there was a really big meeting between the chinese leader and in re odd with the saudi leader. and if you compare and contrast to what it looked like compared to bite and bite and got a, you know, a bump shake and the red carpet came out for the chinese leader. huge deal to being made. energy deals, infrastructure deals that works here. this is very indicative of how the world is changing. wouldn't you say? absolutely, absolutely. sometimes i worry that the western world is so caught up in its own worry for lack of a better term. we're noticing what's going on around the world. i know we're better for the last 10 years, not more as

clarence thomas was a heel that is for sure but he was not alone whereas i think donald trump reallylone by him self, he is responsible for hurting the republican parties and ways that it wil take almost a generation t come back from when you look at donald trum talking about 2022, he never talked about it. when he went to all of these campaign really see wasn't lik barack obama and getting int it and doing a turnout for candidates, he went there an talked about 2020. and himself. it was all about donald. not only was he a bad surrogate, he hurt candidates, an imagining former president right now the leading only republican candidate for president -- he wasn't welcome in georgia they said no thank you >> which is unthinkable. >> crazy so i think he was really a heels he'll. >> a heels heel. >> i will say that i have to give it to clarence thomas clarence thomas, you know, w look at justices, the suprem court as these esteeme thinkers these analytic people who ar but literally above the rest o us, right? and clarence thomas had an opportunity to recuse himself, when deciding the case

the medias war on clearance and ginni thomas.from the washington examiner case against thomas's, one more from the federalist, political. they watch the attack -- thank you, mister chairman. >> without objection, so ordered. the gentlelady from missouri, representative bush, is now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you. i think the chair for convening this crucial hearing. as i listened to reverend schenck's testimony, i've been thinking about people who aren't dining with supreme court justices. who don't get to launch multi million dollar influence campaigns to strip away other peoples freedoms. we do not have access to people of power, but to feel the pain of powerful decisions. i'm thinking about nurses in missouri who have to comply with comprehensive and mandatory ethics standards, as i had to as a north in missouri. whose daily decision-making impact low income, marginalized, communities. and, i am thinking about black and brown women dealing with life threatening complications because of a lawless, on accountable, sup

we can't speak for him or for ginni thomas.nd that this is not a criminal proceeding. it's a political act. certainly they're testifying under oath here, but it doesn't have the same criminal consequences it would have in a justice department investigation. but these transcripts are now part of the public record, which means fbi investigators and others who are actively investigating all of this right now at the justice department and making decision about whether to bring charges and against whom, they access to all of this material. the grand jury is conducting some of their own interviews. it is certainly a different context in that investigation with different consequences, where this material can be used in that form as well. >> tim, i've got one more chunk of ginni thomas' transcript. congressman jamie raskin asks her, mrs. thomas, what was the most significant case of voter fraud you were concerned with after the election took place. this was ginni thomas. thank you for the question, congressman. i cannot say i was famil

also a pleasure to welcome thomas v. gold. he is a military expert and a freelance journalist with a popular blog covering security affairs and joining us virtually from london is ulrika franca of the european council on foreign relations actually currently joining us from france, i'd like to begin if i may with you thomas and in history winter has famously worked to russia's advantage, helping them repel napoleon hitler would you say winter will also help the russians this time? well, i doubt it this time because we have to see yes, russia had an advantage against napoleon against the germans in the second world war. on the other hand, if you remember the finnish winter war in 1939 it was a different story and the finns had the advantage because they knew the terrain, they knew winter, they knew how to deal with it. and here we have the ukrainians who also have an advantage because they know the terrain and they know the situation. so is this old equation, russia knows how to win the winter war wouldn't necessarily apply at t

that is our political correspondent, thomas barrow. we can bring you up to speed now with some other stories making world news headlines. sam, bank men freed at the founder of the failed f. t. x crypto currency exchange was arrested in the bahamas after being criminally charged by u. s. prosecutors, the 30 year old, had been under criminal investigation by u. s. and bohemian authorities following the spectacular collapse of f t x last month. a major breakthrough in nuclear fusion energy is expected to be announced in the united states today. for the 1st time, an experiment appears to produce more energy than was needed to start the process. it's hoped that nuclear fusion will become an inexhaustible source of clean energy . and 6 people have died in a shoot out at a farm in australia. when police entered the property, looking for a missing person among the dead or 2 police officers as well as 3 suspects. such shoot outs are rare in australia because of strict gun control measures. while belgian police have carried out more raids, that

father thomas, a pleasure to speak to you- _ movement. father thomas, a pleasure to speak to you.ure to speak to you. thanks forjoining - to speak to you. thanks forjoining us. now on bbc news, the weather with ben rich. hello. it is not a straightforward end to the year weather—wise. we've already seen flooding rain in places. there is more rain in the forecast, but also snow across parts of scotland. so this combination could bring some new year's eve travel disruption. it is also quite windy, particularly across england and wales where we will continue to see outbreaks of rain through the afternoon. some rain for northern ireland, the south of scotland, where we really don't need any more rain. northern scotland is seeing some wintry showers and it will be cold here. three degrees for aberdeen, 15 in london. and then tonight, the rain shifts northwards, turning to snow over high ground in southern and central scotland. but perhaps some wintry weather even to quite low levels at times. so that could make for some really tricky travelling conditions, minus ten in the north highla

thomas. thanks for coming on the program. on this tuesday, you heard it right back with yet as, as, as quite rightly highlighted the dangerous rise of the far right in europe. but no mention whatsoever of the far right in ukraine. your thoughts? well 1st of all, it's interesting that called terrorist seeing this just a few days ago there was, there was a lucian against new naturism fascism. and it seemed phobia in the u. n. in the general assembly, which was denied by the west. so when they say this is dangerous, or i asked whether vote in the general assembly of the united nations against that regarding ukraine. yeah, well, i have been in one of the headquarters of the, as i've been a battalion variable. and this was really actually a museum of especially symbols. there were even icons with hitler. i haven't seen this before. so yeah, no way to commend it. we have to remember that terrors from a native state and where it came from politically so that it's understandable, but there's nothing objectively. right? and guess what

thomas has been there for 40 years and will be there for another 20. do not feel that that is right. thank you. guest: you know, i think -- thank you for listening and thank you for watching. host: you obviously cover the court and you've argued before the court. what do you think that most of us who just listen or sit in or read the newspaper, what we miss about the court's function and role? guest: the one thing that has largely flown beneath the radar of the left, so in the last year or so with the supreme court's decision not to block the texas abortion law is what is known as the shadow docket which the supreme court hears oral arguments in those arguments are now livestreamed including biases and which is wonderful because it opens up access to the court to everyone, you can go to the supreme court if you can stand in line and you can read the opinions on the website. but a lot of action happens outside of the normal process on the shadow docket. the emergency appeals that come in asking the supreme court to step in, and the supreme court has bee

thomas who attended a stop the steal rally. straight to cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid. paula, take us through what we've learned. >> reporter: well, amara, in this most recent batch a few bold-faced names but start with ginni thomas, someone not a household name but the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. now, she was asked about text messages she exchanged with then white house chief of staff mark meadows in the days and weeks following the election and what is so surprising here, amara, we're seeing in the transcript something we rarely see which is some remorse and regret. cnn has previously reported that the committee was in possession of about two dozen text messages that thomas who is a conservative activist exchanged with meadows where she was pleading with him to try to overturn the results of the election and followed up with him multiple times and when these text messages were revealed they raised a lot of questions about whether the wife of a justice should be pressuring the white hou

is it, thomas ? this has reached the thomas? this has reached the point . might actually have point. you might actually have to back one of your daughters over another in court . well. to back one of your daughters over another in court . well . be over another in court. well. be honest with you. i love i love both daughters. i'm not happy with what one of my daughters is doing. and i don't know what caused her do this. we've had this conversation before , but this conversation before, but the that she's she's telling lies . and she's been telling lies. and she's been telling lies. and she's been telling lies about me. she's been telling me lies about about my son son. so i have no power. i no problem facing her in court and what she has to say. i'd be the first time i've seen her in four years. i know how sad that am. i was in the hospital that it's not just you, thomas. who? the us now be now. can you believe that neither prince harry or your daughter are going to travel to the uk for the memorial service . prince philip memorial service. prince philip as

joining me right now is form former federal reserve president thomas hoenig. thomas, thank you.o much for being here. what about you, are you expecting a recession next year? >> well, first of all, maria, thank you for having me on. and to answer your question, i do think there is a high probability of a recession next year. i think the fed has to continue to raise rates. you saw the wholesale inflation numbers, and those are up. i think the numbers have come out this woman -- that come out this coming week will be above 7, and that's going to mean for sure that the fed will raise at least 50 basis points at that meeting, and then the discussion will become what's the end point. how high should they go for how long. maria: let's talk about some of these numbers from the producer price index that we got out on friday morning. the pppi up 7.4% year-over-year, higher and hotter than the estimates. same on the month to month number which was up three-tenths of a percent. how does this play out to consumer inflation? we'll get the consumer price index out on tuesday. if producers are

this has to do with ginni thomas. now, ginni thomas, the wife of clarence thomas. came in to talk to the committee. the reason is because she sent several texts urging mark meadows to essentially, you know, do what he can to carry out the coup. she also contacted members in the states. so i'm just going to read this and i want to get your feedback on it. these are about the texts she's sending to mark meadows at the time. this is pretty short after the election. er the election >> of course i think we all knew this, but it does seem significant, to me at least, and i would like to get your thoughts on this, that the wife of a sitting supreme court justice, who will likely have to rule on all this, is conferring with him about the state of the election, her desire for a coup essentially to happen or for donald trump to be declared the winner, and her text messages for the chief of staff, does that strike you as significant? >> well, it did seem at odds with their other testimony, which said -- was that she and her husband have a strict policy of never discussing any

one of the big names, ginni thomas, wife of clarence thomas.ut the text messages she exchanged with mark meadows, encouraging trump to continue the election results. she does sound a little bit sorry about that. she says, i regret the tone and content of these texts. i find my language prudent and choice of sending the texts and emails unfortunate. she added, i would take them all back if i could today, clearly not happy those texts are out there. although she did still stand by her belief there was fraud in the 2020 election, even though, she didn't have evidence to cite to that fact. >> she has long been a conservative activist and has long tried to argue that was fraud in previous elections as well. it's interesting to learn more of her testimony. she was always an interesting witness, given she's married to a supreme court justice. you've been digging through testimony from tony ornato, served as deputy white house chief of staff. what did he tell the committee? tony ornato came up because we got that bombshell testimony from cassidy hutchi

her position in proximity to clarence thomas. this manifests and things like clarence thomas for getting to manchin and his wife got $680,000 from the heritage foundation. the heritage foundation has no business that could be relevant to the supreme court. there is any number of ways that, you know, you think that you are gonna go and have your day in court. what happens when you show up and the decision has already been made before you walk into the room? before the advocate walks into the room? from the standpoint of an ethics advocate, we are focused on what is happening behind those closed doors. it is about how we bring sunlight to what the supreme court is doing. as chairman johnson said their hearing in april, the supreme court is not even have a code of conduct. symone sanders, msnbc >> i wasn't gonna jump in in note that. there was no oversight for member years and justices on the supreme court. there is actually no one forcing. what is the enforcement mechanism? it does not exist. >> you hold tight. you're going to kick