this does not mean specifically thomas jefferson. they could narrow down the ancestry stood jefferson lineage with a rare gene but there is other evidence that one is interesting is throughout the history of the case of denial right to rescind the ascendance you were the sons of his sister word is proven also by the dna study. they've rolled out the brothers. sundown the deniers' try to find another culprit. let's go after randolph. the letters between randolph and thomas jefferson, let me tell you there was no thomas jefferson. which is not to say he was not necessarily the father these children but we cannot establish the was there when the babies were conceived. really jefferson mail that was definitely and certainly the was around was thomas jefferson borough he was gone all lot and stop conceding at the age of 38 and then jefferson is 63 she stops at that point* pratt 38, patsy randolph who was one year older and was her half niece, continued to have four or five more babies after that. you have to look. it is a little complicate

we on have stone bridge playing at thomas jefferson and thomas jefferson decided to hire a new head coach and his name is mark gray mendez, he took over and is a thomas jefferson alum and is going to join us now. how are you doing? >> doing all right, yourself? >> very good, thank you. >> is there optimism that can be done here in the first season to turn things around? >> reporter: absolutely, we have great kid -- . >> absolutely, we have great kids playing for us and getting more up tempo and we have -- we really are starting to take to it and i'm excited about what we're going to accomplish this year and it starts tonight, the first district ball game. >> and absolutely, stonebridge got off to a slow start and they're 0-5 this season. from what i understand, that could be deceiving. a couple of players that played for their football team which, played in the states, are back and how does that make them tougher tonight? >> and absolutely. they are a strong club and they're starting to get their sea legs under them and i expect them to come and to give us 32 minutes tonight. >> does it h

is just not as colorful as exander his friends what alexander hamilton who died in a dual or thomas jefferson who we know police look with one of his slaves. and so, he doesn't grab people as the likely subject for a biography the way some of his contemporaries do. i could go on all night talkinge about jay, but i know that a lo of you here have comet with questions and i'd like to pause there to start to take them. >> if you're just joining us from home tonight, we are at the theater at the archives in washington d.c. with william hai stahr, author of "john jay:s one founding father." if you are in the theater withd me, we have microphones on either side. so if you have a question, if you could perceive to either one on your left or right will take several questions. we've got plenty of time for that and stahr will be here to answer them. let me -- there we go. >> of course you have the fortune of perceiving chief justice marshall. was wondering if you could say some words about his achievements as chief justice. o >> yes. i think ifk you're a should tak a poll and ask people to nameune the

thomas jefferson himself and he was no friend of henrys, thomas jefferson himself insisted that patrick henry gave the first impulse of the ball of american revolution. those are jefferson's words. if we wish to be free, we must fight. patrick henry was the first american leader who dared utter those words. those were treasonness, enough to be hung, drawn, or quartered by the british. is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? forbid it, almighty god, i know that what course others may take. but as for me, everybody -- >> give me liberty or give me death. >> most americans know the seven last words of that speech. but few know that patrick henry really meant by those words. and even fewer know anything else about the man himself. as i said, i believe that patrick henry was the greatest of our founding fathers after george washington. patrick henry sounded the first call for revolution and independence from britain. he was first to protest british government taxation without government representation. and first to demand religious freedom, an

thomas jefferson himself, and he was no friend of henry, thomas jefferson himself insisted if patrick henry gave the first in polls to the ball of the american revolution and those are jefferson's words, if we wish to be free we must fight. patrick henry was the first american leader who dared to utter those words. they were treasonous, enough to be drawn and quartered by the british. is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of change and slavery for almighty god i know not what course others may take, but as for me, everybody, give me liberty or give me death. most americans know the seven last words of that speech. but few know of patrick henry meant by those words and even fewer know anything else about the man himself. he was the greatest of our founding fathers after george washington. patrick henry sounded the first call to the revolution and independence from britain. he was first to protest british government taxation without representation and first to demand religious freedom. he was the first governor of virginia which declared independence from bri

i heard on the radio that thomas jefferson owned slaves. he bowed to cultural pressure. some things are just wrong. week 32, i make the mistake of telling my mom i'm struggling with circumcision. i don't think so. i think of the stuff that can get caught in the vagina. that's not nice. andrea. if this child is jewish. he needs to be sircumicized. you don't want your boy to feel strange. that's true. i think my anxiety is fear of having a boy. i am terrified of boys. they are wild and smelly. i said, there is no way to know that. well i know for a fact you don't need it. like i wanted to talk to my dad about his penis. week 34, i don't have the double wide vagina i was hoping for. with just six weeks to go. instructions for peroneal massage. lock hands. apply lubricant. extra virgin olive oil. hold the thumb in place for two minutes or until it becomes numb. slowly massage over the vagina. it's best done with a partner. instead, i take a back door approach and use my finger. i have a lot of stretching to do. week 41, 3:45 p.m. it feels like i have to pee and poo. she says

. >> tonight's match-up between stone bridge and thomas jefferson.ay murphy has all the highlights. >> reporter: thomas jefferson is the no. 1 public high school according to u.s. news and world report. so when the school suffered 13 straight losing seasons, they decided to get a new head coach. tonight mark graymendez's team is looking for their third straight win and top jefferson wearing the home whites, players and fans getting pump up for game of week filling up. ed up for game of the week filling up the stands. richard kuomsma brings it up court. on the kickout michael hammer drains the three pointer and the bulldogs take a 31-28 lead. still in the 1st jefferson beats the press and singh finished on the other end. knotted up at 32 at the break. jefferson side felt so good right now. 2nd half. the shot falls and the bulldogs down 6. hammers would finish with 16 points. kousma had a game high 33 points. jefferson is the winner tonight 78-62, but the team said they had some help from their sixth man. >> they're unbelievable. the maniacs came out t

thomas jefferson said that that was an essential part of the first amendment. >> john nichols of "the nation." always a pleasure. tonight i asked do you believe that president obama's tax compromise with republicans will create jobs? 23% of you said yes. 77% of you said no. that's not a good number. >>> house call. president obama's tax cut deal cruises through the senate but the fight is not over yet. >>> head scratcher. a team of forensic scientists manages to unravel a 400-year-old mystery. >>> and ice castle. frigid winds create a giant frozen sculpture on the shores of lake erie. i'm lynn berry. those stories and more are straight ahead. this is "first look" on msnbc. we begin with rounding the bend. in a rare bipartisan push, the senate voted overwhelmingly in favor of a people that will prevent a new year's day tax hike for millions of americans. still, despite the inclusion of a provision to provide jobless aid to many house democrats will try to make one more change before it's a done deal. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington. good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good mor

that is holyhead george washington and thomas jefferson and john adams.s jefferson under john adams and founding fathers had enough sense to realize it was not working and we changed it. i don't want to go back there. i thought where you were going was i really believe as a firm solid democrat all my life that the best thing we could do would get a viable third or fourth party and really shake it up. give people a choice. >> in a rare moment of agreement have an work for a third party and advocated a third-party candidate in 2008 and written a book about it i can tell you like it to agree with bill press more. >> independents are the fastest-growing segment of the electorate's. not democrats republicans. the team you talked about is a huge problem. it is deeper than that. don't buy this idea that it is the principal behavior. parties are opportunistic organizations and in washington the only city in the country where the most important thing about you is what political party you belong to. it determines where you work and who you work with and co-workers

. >> why did thomas jefferson become consumed with revising the bible by omitting a lot of it in his own text of the bible as you began your book with? >> well, presumably it's not because he didn't have anything else to do, i mean, he was a pretty busy guy in the white house but he ordered a couple books from england, a couple bibles and he sat there in the white house and he cut and pasted and took out the miracles and took out the rurrection. he believed jesus was a good guy, he believed he was one of the most important philosophers ever but he didt like christianity and he was able to separate out christianity from jesus, say no to christianity and say yes to yeast. >> how many of the colonists, what percentage were religiously affiliated or had had religious beliefs in some specific denomination? >> i'm not sure the percentage. but much smaller percentage of churchgoers than we have now. something more on the order of, i don't know, one out of five rather than the vast majority. and those who were christians and who did go to crunch typically didn't think a lot about jesus eithe

thomas jefferson said we should have a vote after every generation and there should be a new form of government every general. why? because every general was different. man does not progress beyond natural man, past brutality as a collective. it is an individual struggle, individual salvation and individual struggle. history shows us when man tries to control freedom and put the collective ahead of the individual it never, never ends well. rome was a functioning republic. a republic is just like what we were in the first 100 years. but as the wars mounted and as bureaucracy expanded, as power became more and more centralized, remember, that is not the way our republic was sent up. we were not supposed to have centralized power. that's why we left england, too much power in the hands of too few people. well, when the bureaucracy started up, all the regulations and everything else, it took quite a toll on the economy. and on the individual. they usually go together. because when you have pure accuracy and you cannot get things done, personal ambitious withers especially if the governme

one comparing him to thomas jefferson. >> jefferson said that information is the currency of democracy. without it we don't have it. wikileaks has been giving us loads of information and information to which we have a right. >> a british socialite and journalist offered to pay assange's bail. but the judge refused to release him saying that he has no local address and has enough money to leave the country. a lawyer said that assange legal problems are those of england. >>> the ss american alliance, a world war ii era vessel has been put on tow. the fleet was created for emergency use in wartime but has deteriorated over the years, shedding lead paint and other toxins into the bay. >>> one of the most beautiful views in the bay area may be open to the public in the next few years. the mid-peninsula open face district will vote this thursday on a plan to open 3,500-foot mount ominum to the public. the air force handed the land over to the open space district in 1986 but left behind asbetos and other toxic residue. >>> what police are trying to get from verizon that could turn out to be k

the first census direction of thomas jefferson.adison recommended at least five of the six questions summer passed on the very set -- very first sentence. u.s. marshals were conducted -- were asked to conduct the first census. the 2010 census is a far bigger endeavor, it remains almost a symbol in one respect bridge for the 2010 census, we ask only 10 questions. just for more than in 1790. -- four more than in 1790. the founders of be astonished and amazed that the new nation had evolved. they would be pleased that our constitution and our way of document has survived and thrived. this is due, in part, because the founders invented a new use for the census. it helped redistribute political power as the nation expanded westward. today, in reporting these first results, our great american democracy renews itself in the midst of a changing nation. i am not honor to introduce to you the man that was charged by congress with making sure that the department of commerce ken? its annual census. related decisions over the past 18 months. it

in 1800, thomas jefferson said lies and frugal government would another but would leave them the bread that was burned. of freedom to the demand of thehenry kissinger and noted certain things about this. dictatorship is a rain created and supported by benevolence. chief affects our to institutionalize tension on the state will also assuring that the steady growth of the bureaucracy would be two things that will first it does. both help to explain why the welfare state has proven so difficult to dismantle. it does not matter that the welfare state action creates more poverty and independence than it was meant to abolish, the intention behind it is benevolent. that is one of the reasons why it is so seductive. benevolence is to hear what -- is the heroine of the enlightenment. like her when, benevolence is intoxicating, addictive, expensive, and ultimately ruinous. the intoxicating effects of benevolence helps to explain publicly correct attitudes from everything from the environment did you cannot go anywhere without seeing something as being green. the more abstract, the better. why ar

frankly, i think this is something that thomas jefferson or ben franklin, if they could have invented this if there was the internet back then, they saw the importance making sure the corrupt people in power, they knew the power corrupted, had a very -- it was necessary to have a very large light on them. and that's what wikileaks does. for me, anybody who supports wikileaks, they're committing an act of patriotism because it guarantees, i think, i hope, that we have a better shot next time the bad guys try to pull one off on us. >> does it matter that he hasn't had access to, and thus hasn't released dick cheney memos or some equivalent to the gulf of tonkin data from 1964? one of the arguments against this is it's not journalism because it's a massive essentially download of secret or hidden information. that it's not vetted in some way, not journalistically gone through in some way or sifted. does that matter at all? >> it has been. first of all, the news agencies from "the new york times" to the "guardian "guardian," to the papers in europe, they have spent a lot of time vetting i

best view in state government right here out of my office, the old state capital designed by thomas jefferson. >> greta: i think they ought to cut your pay because you get such a good deal. >> the governor might take you up on that. >> greta: you won. >> won round one, yes. obviously happy about that in the health care case. the key thing is that the individual mandate was found unconstitutional. and the fall-back argument by the federal government that the penalty if you don't bit government mandated health insurance being a tax was rejected by the judge. we are very happy today. we recognize we've got a longer road to go. i'd much rather go down that road with a win to start with. i was a win. we won solidly. >> greta: interesting. you were not part of the mass case in florida with 20 or 21 states. you have a specific virginia statute here which says virginians can't be forced to buy health insurance. it occurred to me, that statute didn't have much to do with this. if the federal government has no authority under the commerce clause to require someone to buy insurance in any other state, y

thomas jefferson got the western expansion starts, but really, it started with a dream. >> it is a dreamhe wanted this country to be an empire in itself and to do that, we had to go west. at this time, united states western border was the mississippi river. >> he wasn't the only dreamer. >> everybody has dreams today and back then and the people that would populate this area lighter all had dreams of survival, freedom, ownership of land and getting rich. >> how important was the land and ideology of jefferson? >> it's all about land. come with me. we'll go for a walk. jefferson's mission was simply to follow the missouri river, see if it would take you to the pacific and come back. on your way, record everything that you see. animals, plant life. american indians, their friends, the weather. everything about this new land we needed to know what was there. >> that's a dream. so, this is an actual wagon and from what i understand, it was a bumpy ride. >> it was a bumpy ride. families used this to get to the west coast or across the fragre plains. could take you up to four to five months. s

they talk about thomas jefferson promoting individual rights as opposed to collective rights. it seems we've fallen into this trap of collectivism that people can't find their way out. >> what's the problem with collectivism? >> no motivation. right. and what else? >> no incentive. >> it destroys people. it destroys people. exactly right. you just become this little brick and you don't ever -- let me tell you something. i'm a recovering alcoholic and i didn't really start to live until i bottomed out, until i had lost everything and then you have a moment of choice. are you going to live or die? america, that's where you are. that's where you are. not yet. not yet, but you're close. you going to live or die? i'm going to live. i want the republic to live. i want man's freedom to live. so we're going to have to apparently crash and then pick ourselves up. but there are going to be people who try to stop us. people who are trying to take europe -- correct me if i am wrong, david, if you disagree with this assessment -- take europe and make it one united front, lose all flags, ju

in the words of thomas jefferson," whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with theirt." in the process, the census tells us much more about where we have been and where we are going. the 2010 census, your new portrait of america. >> let me introduce our guest today, dr. robert groves of the u.s. census bureau. [applause] >> undersecretariat blank will begin with a set of remarks and introduced the secretary. [applause] >> thank you, dr. groves and good morning everybody. it is good to get to this point. i would like to echo what dr. groves and i have talked about many times which is that we went into this with the intention of being a team. i am very pleased to say that in the past 18 months, we have been 18 between secretary locke, between my office, and dr. gross and the census bureau. it has been an honor to work on this. the u.s. census bureau is in very good hands with dr. grove is at the helm leading a dedicated group of professionals, many of whom are sitting in the front row. i appreciate the work that thousands of employees have done to ensure a successful 20

. >> why did thomas jefferson become consumed with revising the bible by omitting a lot of it in his own text of the bible as you began your book with? >> well, presumably it's not because he didn't have anything else to do, i mean, he was a pretty busy guy in the white house but he ordered a couple books from england, a couple bibles and he sat there in the white house and he cut and pasted and took out the miracles and took out the resurrection. he believed jesus was a good guy, he believed he was one of the most important philosophers ever but he didn't like christianity and he was able to separate out christianity from jesus, say no to christianity and say yes to yeast. >> how many of the colonists, what percentage were religiously affiliated or had had religious beliefs in some specific denomination? >> i'm not sure the percentage. but much smaller percentage of churchgoers than we have now. something more on the order of, i don't know, one out of five rather than the vast majority. and those who were christians and who did go to crunch typically didn't think a lot about jesus e

not todays, but the republican party of thomas jefferson and of james madison. there's a great deal of insecurity within the united states, and nobody's entirely confident that this is going to endure particularly if the british remain as their neighbor to the north in canada which is regarded as a source of trouble that could exploit the weakness of the american union and blow it apart. on the other hand, you will find the same people expressing this conviction that the british empire in north america could never last, that the british were an unnatural presence in a continent that rightly should have a republican form of government everywhere, and there's anxiety among british leaders after the american revolution. they are worried whether they're going to be able to maintain their control over canada, and so no one is certain that the border between the united states, between the united states and canada, between the republic and the empire, is fixed and permanent. on the contrary, most people assume that it's either going to move north or south rather than s

but as thomas jefferson said, taking a group through the capitol after you had left the presidency, stoppedt the door to the house chamber and said here, sir, the people rule. the people rule. >> woodruff: a lot of voters said in this election that we are frustrated, we're even angry at washington, we don't think washington is listening to us. is that anger, that frustration justified? >> the nationwide, yes. and in this era of the black berry, we have instant communication, people expect instant results. i think that's a very large part of it. with the obama presidency and the commitment to the stimulus, people expected to see jobs turn around. i think the democrats overall overstated what they could deliver. we have unemployment down, that we'd have jobs created, the tax cut that was part of the stimulus, i have yet to find someone who realizes that he or she got a, the cut. and at least one person who said oh, but we have to give it back. so we didn't message it right. we didn't deliver aggressively to the people, the message of the jobs created. but there's no denying the million 300,00

>> well, as thomas jefferson said public opinion is the lord of the universe. our system ultimately runs on persuasion and over the last 17 years the repeal has made major inroads among the public. when that happens you'll see congress move. that's what happened. >> ifill: rich, are you surprised to see so many happening in a lame duck session? there's been so much discussion about whether the president is move to go the middle, the right or the left. what is your sense of that? >> i think much more consequential than any of the things we've been discussing-- no disrespect, gwen-- was the action thursday night when you had nancy pelosi's house and a big bipartisan vote ratifying basically the bush tax cuts on all income levels for the next two years. a huge majority in the house. that still got through. that's extraordinary. you also saw the omnibus bill, the bill $1.1 trillion spending bill collapse in the senate and a defeat for appropriators of both sides. so that was really a sign of crumbling of the old spending order on capitol hill. and now we're going t

thomas jefferson said that that was an essential part of the first amendment. >> john nichols of "theasure. tonight i asked do you believe that president obama's tax compromise with republicans will

thomas jefferson came to office and released from jail everyone who had been convicted under that law anti ordered u.s. attorneys around the country to drop all prosecution under the law. he said the courts have upheld below and they think it is constitutional and they are entitled to do so. i think the law is unconstitutional and i am allowed to pursue that do and i performed my constitutional function. i think the president has every right to refuse to carry out unconstitutional criminal legislation when he or she decides to prosecute or not. >> what is the fundamental difference between a president declining to enforce law which places constraints on others and violating something that jefferson did not do -- violating a federal criminal statute that makes what the president is going to do a crime? aren't those different situations? >>> i think that is a great question. the second example is lincoln. on like jefferson who was passive and refused to enforce unconstitutional laws, like in during the civil war took actions where he actively did things which violated the supreme court

that's how we ended up with george washington and thomas jefferson and john adams.the founding fathers had enough sense to realize that was not working and it changed. i thought where we were going was i really believe as a solid democrat that the best thing we could do would be get a viable third or fourth party and really shaken up. really shake it up. give people a choice. >> in a rare moment of agreement having worked for a third-party, advocated a third-party candidate in 2008 and written a book about it, i can tell you i could not agree with him more. >> independence of the largest and fastest-growing segment. the democrats or republicans. we forget that. the key is the source of the problem. so deeper than that. don't buy into this idea. parties are essentially opportunistic organizations designed to achieve power. washington, the only city in the country with the single most important thing about you is what political party he belongs to. most americans don't have a political litmus test. that's one of the reasons why washington is so screwed up. >> so why n

you can go all the way back to thomas jefferson and alexander hamilton and the arguments they had as to what the proper role of government should be, whether it should be big government or little government; whether you should have this or that kind of power. it ran through the constitutional convention and the arguments that occurred there. and it's appropriate that those who believe in government should have strong advocates on their side. and those who believe in free markets should have equally strong advocates on their side. and because i believe in free markets, i'm a republican, and i've been happy to be a republican. and i've been careful to stand up for those things that i believe, and i've compiled a record that many of my friends on the democratic side would consider fairly miserable in terms of wisdom on voting. but let us understand in the debate that as we go back and forth between these two concepts that we do not question the motives or the patriotism of anyone on the other side. or within our own caucuses. i remember an event where someone on the republican side vote

thomas jefferson made it perfectly clear and no one would have disagreed that laws are for the living and not for the dead. it is certainly possible and advisable for people to change that deal with the constitution is very clear on how the deal is to be changed -- change that deal. the constitution is very clear on how the deal is to be changed. it is unconstitutional to suggest the deal can be changed by other than amendment. you can interpret it, but you cannot make it mean the opposite by interpretation. that is not kosher, as they say in my old neighborhood. that is really a deal breaker and leaves those who are affected by this -- they will sit, if you do not abide by the deal, why should i? this brings me to what really is the central point of my presentation, because i have five minutes left. which is that these clashes do not arise merely from a difference in -- of how the constitution is red. the arise from profound cultural differences -- they arise from a profound cultural differences which have arisen in our country. those who live in the white man's fort are living by a

that i propose a pact with the faith, the faithful, i'll take it again, quoting from the great thomas jefferson, i don't mind if my neighbour believes in 15 gods or in none, he neither by that breaks my leg or picks my pocket. i would echo that, and say tha as long as you don't want your religion taught to my children in school, given a government subsidy, imposed on me by violence, any of these things, you are fine by me. i would prefer ... [applause] i would prefer not even to know what it is that you do in that church of yours, in fact, if you force it on my attention, i will consider it a breach of that pact. have your own bloo christmas, and so on. do your slaughtering, if possible, in an abattoir. and don't mutilate the genitals of your children! because then i'm afraid it gets within the ambit of law. all right, don't you think that's reasonably pluralistic and communitarian of me? i think it is. why is it a vain hope on my part? has this pact ever been honoured by the other side? of course not. it's a mystery to me, and ill share it with you. if i believed that there was a saviour who h

it's what dick hotfield wrote about so well in his democracy in america, ever since thomas jefferson wrote to the baptists of connecticut during his tenure of president, you'll be familiar with the phrase i'm sure -- they had britain to him out of their fear of persecution in connecticut: rest assured there will ever be a wall of separation between the church and the state in this country, but the maintenance of that wall, which people like me have to defend every day, against those who want garbage taught in schools and pseudo science in the name of christ and other -- [applause] -- atrocities, the maintenance of that wall is the guarantee of the democracy. by the way, for a bonus, can anyone tell me who the baptists of dan bring connecticut thought was persecuting them? the congregationalists of danbury, connecticut, well done. [laughter] that argues by the way for the existence of a very small but real fan base of mine somewhere here. [laughter] it doesn't seem to matter very much now but it mattered them, give those congregationalists enough power, as they had in connecticut, and

writing in 1800, thomas jefferson extoled that wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, but leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labour the breaded has earned, a benevolent government on the contrary would impose some restrictions on the pursuits of industry, sacrificing the rights of freedom to the demands of equality. the larger the stage upon which the melodrama of benevolence operates, the more dangerous its potential. this is something henry kissinger acknowledge when writing about a new tendency to subject national politics to international tribunals, warned about the risk of substituting the tyranny of judges for that of governments. this directly, he noted that dictatorship of the virtuous has often led to a inquisitions sandwich tons. the dictatorship of -- inquisitions and which hunts. setting about to phenomenally transform america's one thing that came to be thinking about this conference. another is the observation from david hume which is used as the e

it does manage entered the direction of thomas jefferson.s madison recommended and least five that were asked on the same. the same.