host: we are joined by retired lieutenant general thomas spoehr here to talk to us about the recruitment challenges the u.s. military is having particularly the u.s. army. recruitment is down in all four branches. what is going on and tell us the scope of the problem for the military. guest: this is the worst year the military has had in recruiting since 1973 when the draft was done away with. they had some hiccups, they miss their goals some years. this year all services are having a hard time in the army will miss their goal by tens of thousands of soldiers. the labor market, it is hard to hire people. there are many other contorting causes as well. host: the new york times cover this last week, with few able, and fewer willing it is difficult to find recruits. finding the pandemic, tight labor market and demographic shifts, the armed forces may fall short of enlistment quotas this year. how do they set there quotas each year? guest: they have models based on their size of service based on what they can reach. that was 485,000 active-duty soldiers. they set their models in how many sol