nbc 10's vai sikahema has more. >> reporter: walter thurman knows chip kelly very well. he captained kelly's oregon team in college. when kelly called offering a chance to reunite here in philadelphia, thurman jumped at the chance. >> he has a vision. he has a mindset that he wants to win a championship. some coaches like to water the situation down and not get your hopes up about winning the super bowl but that's why we play the game. >> reporter: thurman already has a super bowl to his credit. he won two years ago with the seahawks. when he looks at the eagles, he sees comparable characteristics. >> there's a lot of similarities. again, it comes back to us wanting to win a super bowl wanting to win a championship. because our head coach believes that. he's preparing us to be able to be in that situation. >> reporter: thurman is moving to a new position converting to safety, and three of the four members of the secondary are likely to be new starters. so training camp takes on added meaning for this group. >> being able to bring all the guys in the secondary, everyone i

with his late father, and i didn't know thurman, and i got a ronald reagan wall, and i got a thurman wall and i got a picture of him when he was 5 years old, walking around the capitol lawn in washington x i was honored to do this and i got involved with him in 1964 when i was sitting at the fraternity house at usc, and he was going to support barry goldwater for president, and he was going to switch political parties and become a republican, and in 1964 there was not a single political party, and he had no infrastructure at all, and i said, this guy has got guts, and guts mean something. so i got involved with him and started climbing telephone poles and putting stickers up, and in 1984 he was a state chairman and then he asked me to be chairman of his campaign, and he was a tight individual, and he could get eight pennies out of a nickel. but i didn't really know paul at all and my relationship was with his father, and i never was paid anything for my campaign work, and i just had tremendous admiration for what he did, not just being a conservative but the guys had guts, and he had

thurman is just a small part of chip kelly's reshaping of the eagles roster this offseason. as a result the anticipation for this coming season may be higher than ever. thurman is on board with chip kelly's plans but it's not all about the head coach. >> he has a vision. he wants to win a championship and he's been that way since i was in college and that's why you play the game. some coaches like to water the situation down and not get your hopes up about winning the super bowl but you know, that's where we play the game. we don't play the game to just win the division or just make it to the playoffs. you play the game to win the championship. >> the big story in the league this offseason, tom brady's four game suspension for his role in deflategate. according to espn the players association extended a settlement offer to the league last week regarding his suspension but the league has yet to respond. >>> checking in with the please phillies, they have won two straight series for the first time this season. they open a series at wrigley field tomorrow against the cubs. here

but the highlight was the big pitch and for thurman, a chance to judge on the best short film ideas.football star potential hollywood star maker there's no holding back. >> how bad do they want it? you can always see the potential in somebody at the early stages whether it be sports or in this aspect as far as if they really care about it, are really passionate about it. >> in the end, all three teams had their film pitches green-lit. nbc 10 is the place to watch all the eagles preseason games. the action starts august 16th against the colts, a battle of the birds on august 22nd when the eagles take on the ravens. on august 29th the eagles head to green bay before wrapping up the preseason at the new york jets on september 3rd. >>> "nbc 10 news at 5:00" is next. here are jacqueline london and keith jones. >>> all new on "nbc 10 news at 5:00," school is out for some and apparently so are pennsylvania law makers. >> the legislature has gone on summer break despite the fact there is still no state budget. tonight, teachers show how this could hurt local schools. we asked what lawmakers

thurman's foundation work with the big picture alliance and nbc 10. helping to insmir youngsters to reach their artistic potential. nbc 10 is your official eagles station. >> thurman a small part of eagles coach chip kelly's reshaping of the birds this offseason. as a result the an sisticipation may be higher than ever. playing for a team in seattle. he likes what he sees here. >> there is a lot of similarities. again it comes back to us wanting to win a super bowl. you know. wanting to win the championship. because, our head coach believes that, to be in the situation. now, it's to take it out of his hand and own the situation. that's the biggest thing. and if we can own the situation in training camp then you know -- then the sky is the limit for us. >> now some very good news from the little girl who captured the hearts of many across our entire country. leah still. leah the daughter of delaware native, penn state player devon still has battled cancer for over a year. the 5-year-old rang the bell at the hospital to celebrate her final radiation tre

and i think to begin with we'll turn to sandy thurman. given your long involvement with hiv policy from the u.s. government can you describe to us more about how pep far began partners with faith-based organizations and how that has evolved. >> sure. thank you. and thank you all for

moved thurman from cornerback to safety. work his way into that conversation. wolf didn't participate in mini camp as he continues to prepare for knee surgery. wolff said he is ready to work his way out of jim kelly's dog house. >> earn a spot and that's my goal. you know i said it's been a while. just can't wait to play the game. can't wait. >> i know you weren't able to participate in the mini camps. from what you've seen from the new guys they brought in how excited are you to be part of this secondary right now? >> i'm excited. the coach, just the things we've learned since he's been there. you know from technique to the game of ball to the passion that he had and the passion we have. just all connects. it's all in line. you know i can't wait. it's just i see everybody out there getting better every day. it's driving me so crazy. but now, like i said i've been working real hard since mini camp. i say we're ready to go. >>> delaware native suiting up for the east squad. third quarter britney greiner and doing it with two hands like her mama taught her. up an

atwater, he was a young right-wing operative who moved seamlessly from strom thurman to ronald reagan. they did kwoelt himquote him on how it was done. say stuff like states rights and all that stuff. you're getting so abstract. now you're talking about cutting taxes and all these things are totically economic things and a by-product is blacks get hurt worse than whites. atwater went onto make him the running mate, end quote, in 1988. in the 1988 election of george w. bush. i suspect for buckley conservative's political successes came with disappointments. the dirty trick viciousness he so revelled in behind the scenes. formal theoretical economic. buckley's daring do, his happy warfare, so evidence on television and in print was subordinate subordinated. it's ironic in the reagan his success buckly lybuckley started to become a one man show. the baldwin debate coming after goldwater's failure shows buckley as a crux. there he finds in ethnic and racial terms what he was talking about. calling it quote, the faith of our fathers, end quote. he concluded with a revealing vision of an up

never mind it was the flag of a democrat, the democrats say fine with it, hollings, thurman, byrd, lincolngore, the bubbas loved it in '92. never mind that removing a flag will never prevent a massacre. if anything, it adds to the rebel image. removing the flag is indeed the falling and maybe it is necessary but a city run by a liberal that's way more harmful than a piece of cloth. we are one country and unit speaks our pride. if removing the flag from the capitol makes the victims of the charleston people feel at peace i'm with them 100% but you can feel that way and feel ire for an outrage machine bent on dissolving history. it's okay to ask when is this going to end? some are preoccupied in shaming the past because the present is so tedious. identity pirates of today are just bores with bullhorns and as their crusade demonizes the flag many will simply raise it higher than before but not as high as the rainbow flag flies now. >> this morning the supreme court recognized that the constitution guarantees marriage equality in doing so they have reaffirmed to all americans the idle truth of

hill did you know that the late great statesman from south carolina, strom thurman, always preached that you never make a knee-jerk reaction in a political situation? >> you know, mr. corley, i think that's that sounds like wise advice this body should remember. >> he did. and he has a statute out front for now. >> he does. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. corley. >> mr. fallen is recognized. >> thank you mr. speaker. mr. hill, in talking about the referendum and i've had a number of questions about the referendum also, from a few constituents, and some of them a little upset when i said that we couldn't have one, but i would like for you to just explain to me and mr. corley i didn't get up in time to ask mr. corley, since you're on the same and not for taking the flag down and for an advisory opinion on a referendum if your district came back and advisory opinion was 70% to take it down, and i know in your heart that you said that you don't want to take it down what would you do? >> you know that's an interesting question. and i'll tell you that what i told people as i was -- as i was go

thank you. >> thank you so much wanda bailey granddaughter of the late strom thurman.t to thank congressman jim kleinberg as well. we should note the congressman's daughter is standing up here. we're not going to embarrass her or put her on television -- she's right behind me -- dad says hi. more on this historic day on "the rundown" here on msnbc. we'll be right back. when my back pain flared up we both felt it i took tylenol at first but i had to take 6 pills to get through the day. then my friend said "try aleve". just two pills, all day. and now, i'm back for my best bud! aleve. all day strong and try aleve pm now with an easy open cap. [ school bell rings ] ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle life; clorox handles the germs. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive?

and i think to begin with we'll turn to sandy thurman. given your long involvement with hiv policy from the u.s. government, can you describe to us more about how pep far began partners with faith-based organizations and how that has evolved. >> sure. thank you. and thank you all for being here. it is interesting, the faith community has been a partner in response to hiv since the beginning of the epidemic, both domestically and globally. so i think pet far was an out growth with faith-based organizations on the domestic side for a number of years. when we really began looking at the disproportionate impact of the epidemic in africa back in the late 1990s and early 2000, it was a lot -- our interest and a lot of the pressure that was brought to bear on the u.s. government and policymakers was from faith-based organizations who were on the ground in africa seeing the devastation that was occurring on the continent. so they've been a natural partner for us, faith-based organizations and faith backers have been a natural partner with those o

atwater, he was a young right-wing operative who moved seamlessly from strom thurman to ronald reagan. they did kwoelt himquote him on how it was done. say stuff like states rights and all that stuff. you're getting so abstract. now you're talking about cutting taxes and all these things are totically economic things and a by-product is blacks get hurt worse than whites. atwater went onto make him the running mate, end quote, in 1988. in the 1988 election of george w. bush. i suspect for buckley conservative's political successes came with disappointments. the dirty trick viciousness he so revelled in behind the scenes. formal theoretical economic. buckley's daring do, his happy warfare, so evidence on television and in print was subordinate subordinated. it's ironic in the reagan his success buckly lybuckley started to become a one man show. the baldwin debate coming after goldwater's failure shows buckley as a crux. there he finds in ethnic and racial terms what he was talking about. calling it quote, the faith of our fathers, end quote. he concluded with a revealing vision of an up

i have a book this thick of thurman -- sherman's letters. his wife is another story. ellen sherman is a devoted catholic. -- devout catholic. that is kind of a problem between them. it actually becomes a problem much later in their life when their son thomas wants to become a priest. sherman will have none of it. that causes a split in their family well after the war. there are a lot of things about these people that go way beyond what they do with a sword in their hand on the battlefield. that is my job. to take you with me and introduce these characters to you as human beings. they are not that different from us. that is the lesson i learned from my father. now, i want to wrap this up because i very much want to hear from you the -- we are limited on time. i understand that. i could go on talking exactly about what i'm talking about now. i am working -- four years, five years ago, i was here. someone will always ask me what are you working on next? at that time i told them what i wanted to do next with korea. i mentioned korea before. one of the reasons i really wan

you have stram thurman's son giving a passionate speech right after those people including their colleaguese in life? my purpose essentially is to lead this charge to take down the confederate flag. so they speak for themselves. come you have a jefferson davis descendant strom thurmond's son saying take down the flag that says enough. i don't know what the 20 people were thinking who voted against taking down the flag. >> i found the swiftness of the reaction, the decision and movement to take down the flag and the sense of emotional cu catharsis amazing. now you feel like i mean this sort of vehemence with which people say it must come down makes me wonder do you think it always should have come down? there's so much powerful -- >> shootings combined with social media brought that flag down. >> and the fact that one of the tragic victims of the shooting was a colleague of theirs in the state legislature. >> on the outside is great. we have shootings in this country all the time and everyone says something must change, and it doesn'turic i'm struck, too, to be that emotional about it now,

and i think to begin with we will turn to sandy thurman.given your long involvement from the us government can you describe to us a little bit more about how we 1st began partnering with organizations and how that has evolved? >> sure.sure. thank you for being here. it is interesting. a partner in our response since the very beginning domestically and globally. that partnership was an outgrowth of our experience in partnerships with faith-based organizations all the domestic side. when we began looking at the disproportionate impact and early 2,000's of our interest and a lot of the pressure that was brought to bear on the us government and policymakers was from faith-based organizations on the ground in africa seeing the devastation that was occurring on the continent. so they have been a natural partner for us. a natural partner working from the beginning. and so when we begin to expand the global program to focus on hiv internationally and put this in perspective actually working in the white house and the global aids budget, $125 millio

and we are honored today to be joined by three very respected panelists, we have sandy thurman to my left who is the chief strategy officer for the office of the global aids coordination and many of you know sandy from her long work in this arena. and in the middle we have mark frank mueller the director of the center for faith-based initiatives at usaid and janet kates at the kaiser family foundation. you have their full bios in the handout so i won't go into all of the details, but you can see that we have a very -- a very important panel up here and we are eager to dive into some interesting discussion on this. i think we all know in the first panel made very clear the importance of engaging with and understanding the role of the faith-based communities in providing global health, in providing information, especially in reaching communities, the poorest of the poor, the hard to reach areas. i'm reminded of a time not long ago when i was in it ethiopia and interviewed an orthodox priest and we were talking about family planning and i asked him what message he gave to his followers

thurman? aye. mr. verdun? no. >> mr. young? aye. >> have all the senators voted? have all the senators voted? then the polls are closed and the clerk will please tabulate. by a vote of 36-3 senate bill 897 is given a third reading. the for from anderson what purpose do you rise, sir. >> i would like to be heard. >> proceed. while he is coming forward, the senator from newbury. >> a unanimous consent for leave from 9:00 until noon. >>> i have shared this story with a few of you. a couple years ago i was asked to speak at my church about the resurrection, and we all appreciated senator pinckney's booming voice, and i thought that would be nice to have that voice as the angel during that scene, and if you remember part of that passage and scripture, the angel asked why do you speak the living among the dead? senator pinckney is not with us now, but he is not dead. also it has been said many times very eloquently of the grace that the victims showed the biggest shock is when family members of the victim showed up at the hearing of this murderer and offered their forgi

senator thurman? senator tom young? senator paul campbell?enator concoursen, seriously, he's going to do something vote for a bill that secretly might disrespect confederate history? no way. and i could go down the list. i could go down the list. you know, we've talked a lot about a lot of different things today. compromise grace. normally you talk about grace like representative neil said, as something given, not asked for. and i hope after today that we deserve some grace. i really do when we're done here. on the subject of compromise, i'm all about that. everybody here knows me, knows me well. i've worked with any and everybody in this chamber to get thing done for south carolina. but i can't in good conscience vote for an amendment tonight. i can't because i can't go home and tell me people that politics was more important than them. respectfully and truthfully i can't go home and tell them that the flag was more important than their feelings their hurt, their pain, their anguish, their expectation that we would meet the challenge that ev

thurman? aye. mr. verdun? no. >> mr. young? aye. >> have all the senators voted? have all the senators voted? then the polls are closed and the clerk will please tabulate. by a vote of 36-3 senate bill 897 is given a third reading. the for from anderson what purpose do you rise, sir. >> i would like to be heard. >> proceed. while he is coming forward, the senator from newbury. >> a unanimous consent for leave from 9:00 until noon. >>> i have shared this story with a few of you. a couple years ago i was asked to speak at my church about the resurrection, and we all appreciated senator pinckney's booming voice, and i thought that would be nice to have that voice as the angel during that scene, and if you remember part of that passage and scripture, the angel asked why do you speak the living among the dead? senator pinckney is not with us now, but he is not dead. also it has been said many times very eloquently of the grace that the victims showed the biggest shock is when family members of the victim showed up at the hearing of this murderer and offered their forgi

thurman. aye. mr. turner. aye. mr. williams. aye. mr. young. aye. >> have all of the senators voted? the polls are closed, will the clerk please tabulate? by vote of 36-3, senate bill 897 is given or -- is given third read. >> i would like to be heard. >> proceed. >> unanimous consent request for a leave from now until -- >> mr. bryant? >> i have shared this story with a few of you. a couple of years ago i was asked to speak at my church about the resurrection. we all appreciated senator p clement to pick me possible booming voice. it would be nice to have that booming voice as the angel and that saying. if you remember, part of that passage in the scripture, the angel asks why do you seek the living among the dead? he is not with us now, but he is not dead. also, it has been said many times very eloquently of the grace the victims showed. the biggest shock was when family members of the victims showed up at the hearing of this murderer and offered their forgiveness, and pointed that man to christ. >> we need order please. >> any other time, an

we have sandy thurman. many of you know her from her long work. in the middle we have mark who is the director of the center for faith-based and community initiatives at usaid. and we have jen who is the director of global health and h.i.v. policies at the kaiser family foundation. you have their full bios in the handouts so i won't go into all the details. you can see we have a very illustrious, very important panel up here and we are either -- we are eager to dive into some interesting discussion on this. i think we all know and the first panel made very clear the importance of engaging with and understanding the role of the faith-based communities in providing global health and provide information. especially in reaching communities, the poorest of the poor, hard to reach areas. i'm reminded of a time not long ago when i was in ethiopia and interviewing an orthodox priest and we were talking about family planning and i asked him what message he gave to his followers and he said, roughly translated family planning isn't a sin, hungry children is