let's bring in cnn legal commentator tim parlatore, a former lawyer for donald trump, and tim, as we noted, nearly all of the pages out of nearly 2000 appear to be completed italy redacted. i wonder if you think this actually has the effect that the trump team was worried that it would i don't think it does. >> i mean, i went through them briefly myself and i didn't really see much of anything new evan just pointed out a couple of pages, but i'm sure that you know, once everything he's gone through, there's not really that much to come out i think that really what the trump team is probably more worried about is just a focus going away from the campaign issues, going back to this case in the last couple of weeks before the election. but i don't think i haven't seen anything that's really going to move the needle factually tim, we also heard evan reference what judge judge chutkan said about the trump claims of election interference. i want to put that back up. there. this is from the judge saying if the court withheld information to the public, otherwise had a right to access solely

against donald trump, just unsealed by judge tanya chutkin joining us now is former trump attorney tim parlatore. tim, thanks. thanks for joining us prosecutors in this lengthy hundred and 70 page document, the filing, write about a meeting that trump bard bard, his white house counsel from attending. and i'm quoting now for the document, it is hard to imagine a stronger, hard to imagine stronger evidence that conduct is private then when the president excludes his white house counsel and only wishes to have his private counsel, president tim, what do you make of that argument that this document is well-written. >> it go for the purpose of trying to overcome the immunity. this case always suffered from the from the issue of what is he doing in his capacity as president and what is he doing in his capacity as a candidate? and so yeah, this document is entirely written to try to frame everything as being in his capacity as a candidate, which admittedly, a lot of these things that happened during that time would be in his capacity as a candidate. so that does make sense to raise that argument. >> b

john right with us now, former attorney for donald trump, tim parlatore, counselor great to have you here exactly a really good job explaining this filing. >> i just want to read one quote, which i think encapsulates what jack smith is trying to do here. he's talking about donald trump's rally on the ellipse on january 6. he says, in the manner in which the defendant took the stage at the rally was also consistent with his campaign rallies. instead of entering as a military band, played hail to the chief as he might end an official presidential event that defendant entered an exited the ellipse speech to the songs he had used through the campaign. god bless the usa in the village people's, ymca. smith also noted that this was paid for by outside sources, not paid for this event and by the u.s. government, why in jack smith's mind, is this distinction so important what he has to do here is to try and paint everything that happened there as purely being under his role as a candidate as opposed to the president's so he's using that, he's using meetings where he had his personal attorney

former federal prosecutor, at least adamson, and cnn legal commentator and former trump attorney tim parlatore, glad to have all of you here today, who expected this? come maybe not anyone, but certainly jack smith did. we talked with you, josh because you call this filing a blueprint for special counsel, jack smith and a jury presentation. if that would happen one day, what do you think is his goal in doing this? knowing the audience is not really a jury in this case. it's the judge. what is he trying to do? >> well, he's trying to give her as much of the evidence as he can because so far what she's really had is only the indictment which was just sort a bare-bones outline of its case. and this really fills in a lot of the details that a lot of the juicy nuggets that you just relayed, our him laying out the facts. there's one in there where they talk about a trump camp campaign aide talking to somebody down in an arena where they were counting votes on election night and telling them to start a riot. now that allegation in sort of vague terms was in the indictment, but now we have a direct qu