is that the case tish james is putting before us? >> it is. just to be clear, it's totally legal to lie to forbes but you can't tell the same lies to the government. you can't tell the same lies to lenders. that's the argument that she has made. broader and very detailed point by point property by property version of that argument. it wasn't just trump it was doing in little ways in every corner of his empire to impress all kinds of different people. it wasn't just a onetime thing, it was a common, steady practice throughout the business to lie about the properties did, what they were worth. >> kyle, parts of this lawsuit have been referred to the irs in the doj. what are they likely to do now? >> good question. i think the justice department would would take refers from a fellow prosecutor seriously. you hear about things the january six committee make a referral to the justice department. i don't think prosecutors look at those particularly favorably when they come from the predict party political brand of government a prosecutor, herself a

only tish james, and the irs wouldn't? >> well, tish james has referred to this case to the irs because she believes in the factors of the audit. and he would've been a deeper trouble. as you said. what we're seeing from the taxes, what we're seeing from the statements of his wealth, and his assets, and his properties. all suggests that he has been inflating the value of what he is worried for a long time. and we've heard him make these claims publicly. now we're seeing tish james lay out evidence of these claims which affect, as well, what you're saying, their lenders, the ensures and the tax collectors. which for the most part means us. >> man, so either the irs is asleep at the wheel or donald trump is lying, or some combination of the two. stuart, kevin mccarthy's commitment to america sounds an awful lot about -- contracts from america from the clinton years. it does seem pretty late in the game for the gop to come up with an agenda. what is this? >> today was a fascinating day in american politics. because you had bo

i think there is plenty of support for tish james in manhattan.ok at the other boroughs, they are concerned about crime and the lack of prosecution by tish james. i think there will be disappointment, especially amongst the minority communities suffering from the crime wave. if anything, this is a distraction away from the real issues that are important to new yorkers. who knows what will happen in terms of the civil case, but i'm not confident it is going to hurt the president much. host: we will come to scott lucas in birmingham. this is a case of teflon, where nothing can touch him and it is a distraction? >> it is a case of making sure that we cut through politics and disinformation and stick with the facts. the wider context is that donald trump may have a stake in justice, but his campaign did collaborate with russia in 2016 to get him elected. that is on the record in the muller report. donald trump tried to blackmail a country, ukraine, a country which is now at war, because it would not spread disinformation against his opponent in the 20

nice part, he is not delaying anything from tish james.committed and she'll go down in history as helping to save democracy. >> when you provided testimony to tish james, was cy vance's representative in the room? >> every time that i met, and i met 12 or 13 times with the district attorney, three while i was still incarcerated up in otisville, every time there after when i returned, there was a member of tish james' office present and then they decided to do this as a team. and they shared information so whatever i gave to the d.a., they shared with our attorney general. >> so one of the -- the prosecutors quit the criminal case. >> two of them. >> two of them. and then they detail some of their reasons in their resignation letters. but what gets mr. bragg from all the evidence you provided tish james,you provided mr. bragg's office to what we see is a pretty open and shut case of criminal tax fraud and insurance fraud? why didn't he charge? >> it is an interesting question and really one that only alvin bragg assuming he wants to tell th

it is very solid, and i think what we're seeing is tish james doing what interest rates do. she noted that this investigation was over the course of three years. she talked to over 60 different witnesses. this is fraud that's alleged to have occurred over the course -- this complaint of ten years, we're talking about an entire decade of misleading federal and state entities around the valuation of his properties and personal finances. when you talk about a legal defense, trust and believe that there is nothing in this complaint which has not been thoroughly checked and investigated, and that's why she can stand up and make the proclamation that she did today in announcing this complaint. and so there is not much that he has to do in terms of wiggle room further supported by the fact he tried to settle because he understands despite the myriad of criminal investigations he's facing, this is a serious issue that he does not have the fire power to continue. >> tally, what was also intriguing today was the referrals. you do have this now referral, not just to the irs, but to the

i think tish james has a hurdle here in front of her to convict him.dealing with sophisticated banks, they were banks like many in new york that knew trump was a grifter, and i think did some of their own due diligence, regardless what he told them their properties were worth. so, that is going to be a hurdle. on the other hand, i think there's a legal case to be made that his mere attempt to try to mislead may be damning enough. and i think those are some of the things that tish james is going to have to convince a jury of. she doesn't have to show intent. she can introduce the fact that donald and eric both took the fifth hundreds of times. and a jury can interpret that as a possible admission of guilt. you can't do that in a criminal suit. she's got some play here with the jury. but at the end of the day, i do think it is this -- the art of the trump family's life in new york city, as developers and as business people, could come to a very rocky and ugly close as a result of this lawsuit. >> susanne, the arc is also a lie, though. your great reporti

the action by tish james in new york is separate from the justice department.l action. that's a state action, and tish james' office does not adhere to federal justice department rules. >> maya, very quickly, we have dual investigations, one from the doj, one from the state of new york. which one do you think gets a conviction faster? do you think that the process that tish james laid out this week, will we see somebody in an orange jumpsuit from trump's inner circle from her or the doj faster? >> well, let's remember that tish james suit is civil, not criminal, number one, and probably going to be alengthy process. it usually is. i have to say, department of justice on these documents, it is a very clear that they have recovered documents from donald trump's residence he did not own. should not have possessed, should not have kept. some of his attorneys told him so, so that's where we are. >> philip rucker and maya whily, thank you. maya, i think i hear a cat in the background. added some real passion. thank you guys so much for joining us. >> up next, a serie

tish james his phenomenal.ap, she followed it, and the first to file this 200 page indictment, outlining, you know, just a massive, massive fraudulent scheme. >> have you heard from anybody inside the trump camp, allen weisselberg, especially since you got out of jail? >> nothing. >> nothing? no attacks, no phone call? >> nothing. >> the overinflation of assets was astounding to me, michael. when you look at inflating the value of trump park avenue, right? inflating it up to $130 million in real value of that being 84.5 million. mar-a-lago, 739 million. the real value, 75 million. -- says that he didn't necessarily believe it was 75. he believes is much more than that, but certainly less than 739. trump -- 291 million was inflated lu. 56 million. a lot of folks inflate the value of their assets, maybe about $100,000 or so if you are looking to get a loan. this is an egregious inflation of assets. was there ever a moment in which you said, donald, what are we doing here? we are breaking the law. how did you cont

this is in tish james's papers.when the fbi raided mar-a-lago, what ended up happening is they found documents that would have been responsive to the subpoena. so therefore, on top of everything, this is added obstruction of justice is yet another clean. in fact, there is more claims for him then he has hair on his head. >> there's a question here about why this persisted for so long. to your point about the tax documents, it does seem she talked about before in the irs the obvious no no is to inflate for bank lenders and insurance purposes and deflate from tax which is what you said. like when it's time to pay taxes, the property is worth. another >> when you get calls that black and, why the irs does not look that favorably on. it seems to be another issue for him here. to the extent she's referring this to the irs. they have this document. >> thank, fraud wire fraud. they throw in money laundering. you have misrepresentation. the whole plethora of crimes. >> can i ask you a question you might not be able to answe

we will kick it off with attorney general tish james. a.g. james: thank you so much. it is great to see my colleagues in government. i tried to take a few days off, which is not become a vacation. [indiscernible] it is my privilege to be with all of you. what we are seeing throughout our country is an all-out assault on women's pre-k -- reproductive rights to control our bodies, determine our future, determine our destin ies -- determine our destin ies. these assaults are inextricably tied to one another. it is all about power. the individuals are marginalized. they are coming after our right to choose and coming out against our right to love, to organize, and our right to vote. these are five-alarm fire's. we have to see the big picture. as long as one of us is not free, none of us is free. as attorney general, about to represent the interests of those individuals and act without fear or favor and hold the powerful accountable, and to be unrelenting. i bring to the office of new york attorney general litigation skills, but also my ability to organize, and activism as

i had no idea what general tish james was going to say.so when she mentioned my name i was obviously quite elated, to be honest, because i'm finally getting the recognition for what i've been sitting on the mountain tops yelling for three and a half, four years, which is that the trump organization is a criminal enterprise and that i got thrown under the bus by dear old donald simply, as you stated in your intro, somebody has to always fall on the sword for him. right now it looks like it will probably be one or both of his kids. and possibly himself as well. the one correction i do want to make, what tish james said was, not that it's a 250 million dollar request. that's the baseline. i have been known to also state that i believe that that number will be at least 2 to 3 times, at least 2 to 3 times a penalty -- >> in terms of what she's thinking in restitution? >> yes, because she can have an opportunity to go through the labyrinth of organizations. so when they finally do when they realize the extent of the iris issues, the usage of the

the tish james case destroys, him because he's a fragile ego. his whole life is all about his financial wealth. >> david, i wonder what you make of cohen's assessment there. >> i think michael cohen is right on the money there. donald has a long history of not just inflating assets when it will help him to get more money and deflating assets when he can pay less tax. he has actually gone to farcical levels to hide documents, claiming they were destroyed by a broken water pipe and then it were literally at the door, we just accidentally wipe them all off of the computer. so this is just totally consistent behavior. cohen is right. in a civil case, which mr. james missed james brought, it brings a preponderance of evidence, not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, a preponderance of evidence, and her complaint shows that trump was directing many of these fraudulent activities. and it's important to remember fraud is always and everywhere are wrong. >> i want to ask you about a different type of fraud or a different type of fleecing. you have trump al

new york attorney general tish james. e is holding, tomorrow morning, what is being described as a major news conference. last week, the new york times reported that james could potentially sue trump -- obviously, we don't know what is coming tomorrow. but given what peter just laid out -- given what i have shared, how worried should trump be tonight about tish james to morrow? >> james rebuffed a settlement offer from the trump folks that would have resolve the case -- that didn't happen. and she is reported to be investigating -- this is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. by the -- far-reaching implications for -- if she indicted -- it i suppose the furthest act she could go would be to use new york's corporate death penalty provision. it is called out because -- bad practices, corrupt practices, all their sorts of practices, but the law forbids, in new york, cannon essence we shut down. and james is already done this to trump's charitable entity, which no longer functions, it ceased to exist, as a result of that. sh

new york attorney general, tish james, she is holding tomorrow morning what is described as a major newsonference. last week the new york times reported that james could potentially sue trump and, obviously we don't know what is coming tomorrow but given what peter just laid out, given what i shared, how worried should trump be tonight about tish james tomorrow? >> well, james rebuffed a settlement offer from the trump folks that would have resolve this case. that didn't happen. she is reported to be investigating, this is a civil matter not a criminal matter. but a case that could have fire each-ing in cages for the trump organization if she indicted it. i suppose the further steps she could go would be to use new york's corporate death penalty provision and it's called that because companies that engage in bad practices, corrupt practices, other sorts of practices that the law forbids in new york, canyon essence be shut down, and james has already done this to trump's charitable entity, which no longer functions, it's ceases to exist because of that. she has suggested she would not go

tish james is proceeding in new york. maybe that will give mr. bragg a jolt of courage. it looks to me like there's powerful proof of criminal intent and now tish james has said so in these pleadings. >> and it's in court documents. thank you both. thank you both so much for joining us and thank you as well, kara scannell. >>> the other big news, president biden addressing the united nations. what he said about putin's new nuclear weapons threat and russia's plan to call up hundreds of thousands more soldiers for the battle in ukraine. >>> plus, will the fed finally get inflation under control? it will attempt to do just that moments from now with another massive rate hike expected. when could you feel the impact? >>> and no power, no water, and now a brutal heat wave. we'll take you live to puerto rico where much of that eelisla is still reeling from hurricane fiona.a. for adults with generalized myasthenia graviss who are positive for acetylcholine receptor antibodies, it may feel like the world is moving without you. but the picture is changing, wi vyvgart. in a clini

i'm glad that tish james, the attorney general who is prosecuting this case, i don't think she is inclined to give people, who engaged in this conduct, a pass. this lawsuit, also, isn't a full invitation of the corporate death penalty. by restricting trump, and his three grown adult children, from engaging in running a business to the future, it cuts them out of a new york business. it is in the next five years, and obtaining loans from banks that are licensed in new york. it cuts them out of the business cycle. we are going with this lawsuit that successful. >> on his home turf, can you say something really quick? >> bill barr either hasn't had read the complaint, or is lying. this is not just, simply, they are his adult children. they are described as taking, very, specific, acts. very detailed things. when they are on emails, they are saying in documents, and the biggest appears to be eric, because they will be involved in a transaction, involved in a conservation easement. this is misrepresenting values after it was done. he was also involved in something with nevada state taxes. there

that of course being new york attorney general tish james's probe of trump illustrate business. lodging at a minimal that trump's old evaluation of his properties constituted a massive decades-long fraud. not denied -- that defined his organization. of course, the revelations were met mostly with silence from congressional republicans. as a house gop was more concern this week for the unveiling of 2023 agenda ahead of midterm elections in just six weeks. that agenda on surprisingly focused on crime and the border. both issues providing a backdrop for the ongoing drama over the falls relocation of hispanic migrants to liberal cities by red state republicans. one of those cities being the one i am reporting to you from. new york city. and in a few moments, i will talk to the city's mayor. eric adams about steps he is taking to how stranded migrants and push back on the gop campaign stunts. all of that tonight on politics nation, including my -- mom my got you moment will be on the one state that has banned more books than any other state in the country. but we start with politics.

i think tish james is fantastic. is an incredible attorney general, and an attorney general that i wish every single state in this country had. i actually wish alvin gray had been a little more tish james. though i'm going give alvin a little bit of lee way as we now in october have the case against the trump organization. you and i talked about this, you can at not separate the trump organization from donald. >> well, it's not weisselberg org. the authorities have to get in there. final question, you knowing him well -- where do you think his head and emotions are at today when he sees the prospect that he could really be booted from new york business, not him or his kids able to run any business here? >> yeah, it's not the business that bothers him, it's the loss of what will be the money. one of the thing you talked about at the beginning, she's seeking $250 million. that's not accurate. what she said was the baseline of $250 million. knowing the documents the way i do and knowing exact willty fraud that was going

so -- but, you know, just on its own terms what tish james filed was devastating. it wasn't just a cupfall of examples. it was 200 examples over those 222 pages that you are referencing. some are old, but they're extreme. there's some puffing in real estate, but he is claiming his apartment in new york is worth hundreds of millions of dollars when no property had ever sold there like that in new york. he claims mar-a-lago was worth $739 million when it is worth $75 million. i think most importantly, trump's own cfo, his chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, has already pled guilty to 15 different felonies relating to these trump income tax, you know, trump organization frauds and that's 15 felonies. i don't think weisselberg will be the one who committed the most crimes at end of the day. i think these examples go to recent times that tish james isolated as well so there's a long pattern. i don't think it is right to just point to the 2010 stuff because she brings it up pretty close to the present here. >> thank you. you can get more of these reports from nei

. >> what tish james writes is that the baseline is $250 million. she's not going below that.e said on many, many shows, i believe that in order to be somewhere between -- one billion dollars. that will wipe them out. he doesn't have cash. >> let's bring in tim o'brien, msnbc political analyst and senior executive editor of bloomberg opinion and writer of this new article, trump and his spurious business face a reckoning. welcome back to the broadcast. in your piece, you say that james's suit won't land the trumps in prison, only criminal convictions could do that. it seeks to borrow the trumps from running a business in new york state and might unravel the trump organization. you just heard michael cohen there say it could actually wipe trump out. is that the way you see? >> well, i think it depends on the extent of damage is that the case inflicts at her prosecution inflicts on the trump family and her business. michael is completely right that he has never had a lot of cash on the end. he's almost a dead addict. he as always heavily mortgaged the properties. most of his wea

the interest of tish james gives trump a little hook to hang onto. suspect merrick garland is not a fan of having a prosecutor involved in what he's trying to keep as a non-partisan process. >> you won't get my opinion. but i will ask the opinion of our guests here. tom, i do want to ask you. there are so many legal issues piling up. let's put politics aside. how can you juggle all these things? i mean, where is this headed? >> it's complicated. i mean, you need a scorecard to map out the daily legal developments. i think donald trump right now is in his element. he hasn't been indicted. he's fending off multiple attacks from different prosecutors. i think for the prosecution it may be different for the public to distinguish between a lot of these different cases. and donald trump is doing what he loves to do which is to attack the prosecutors, which is to turn the taebls. this is where he likes to be. i'm not sure he likes to be indicted, if that's ultimately where we go. but at this stage of the game, i think it's fair to say we saw from the rally

if there was ever a conflicted prosecutor out it is tish james. it has a bad smell to it. number two, if this is so bad where's the criminal case? remember the manhattan d.a. sided essentially not to bring a criminal case. so she reaches for a civil case, which if you know anything about the new york state attorney's general, they have something going the martin act, they can bring a civil case against someone stealing a bagel. it is, it is, it gives them wide range of powers and i'm not saying this is stealing a bagel. i'm saying you have to put this in context. neil: proving financial valuations the worth of property, worth of holdings that is always in the eye of the beholder. we don't know all those details. in other words he was rigging his net worth. >> inflating his net worth to get a bigger loan. on top of his all who is the victim here? it's deutsche bank who he paid back. if you look at this i've been covering this for a while now, if you look at the loan statements okay, let's say donald trump purposely inflated everything on this, alan weisser man, eric trump,

so you can't really look at the tish james case in an analysis without recognizing that the guy is onso many legal fronts, they are influencing each other. >> it is not just one thing, this isn't just a vacuum, there are many things. cynthia, eric, thank you very much for taking us off. it is my first day back, i am happy to have you here. >> congratulations, and welcome back. >> thank you guys so much, coming up, we have to talk about the devastation in puerto rico. the island was just wrecked by hurricane fiona, so we are going to get into the latest efforts to get the power back up and what needs to be done to make sure that this does not happen again. but first, my colleague richard louis is here with today's other top news stories, richard, i have missed you. >> i've missed you too, simone, good to see you on a very good saturday as well. we are watching some breaking news. cnn out one of the strongest storms ever to hit eastern canada. hurricane-force winds and heavy rains cut power for hundreds of thousands of people there. forecasters warn of possible storm surges this weekend

but remember tish tish james ran her basic campaign strategy was i'm going to get trump . so it's hard to separate the politics. i wish that she would focus as much attention on looking after the minority communities in the, in the, for burroughs, outside of manhattan, who are suffering the worst from the surgeon. crime, thanks to prosecutors like to st. james. well, we all going to be looking at this a lot a, do see you shaking your head there very, very quickly because we all ring out. so i'm, why are you shaking your head? because you don't praise the legal system and say it must be a pell. and then watch an ad hominem attack on the new york attorney general for doing the job of trying to see that justice is served. that's irresponsible, and i do hope great. doesn't try that again. well, i want to thank ola gas in london, greg henson in washington dc. melanie sloane and in birmingham u. k. scott lucas and i want to thank you, take watching as well. like to see the program again, any time by visiting all websites out there, a talk home. and for further discussion, go to

it's anything to criminalize civil behavior and that's all tish james does.overnor in the state of new york, never thought i could say there was someone worse than andrew cuomo. covid-19 hochul is worse than andrew cuomo. she is the worse corruption queen to play. made it worse. a woman who wasted almost half a billion dollars in pay to play contracts on purchasing test kits for covid-19 in the midst of this crisis and made sure no bid contract that those test kits went to a donor not to the best bidder, even california is corrupt and liberal as california is, even california saved 45% more than kathy hochul did on helping out our people suffering from covid-19. >> one person trying to shake up albany michael henry running against james for state attorney general this november had this reaction to the suit. listen. >> every day new yorkers right now understand that letitia james does not care about crime. she recently said she needs more credible data before she revisits the cashless bail law and more credible data means more victims. >> todd: congresswoman,

>> according to tish james, absolutely. i gave personal financial statements.hy trump gets away with what he does is because there's only a handful of people within the inner circle. everybody else is external. what i did is i provided the road map, i provided the information that they needed to understand the trump organization so that they could hold him accountable. >> where do you see this going? >> oh, i see real problems. i see indictments coming and relatively soon. >> including the children? >> including the children. >> thank you. >> you're welcome, don. >> good to see you. >>> president biden speaking to the world today addressing the u.n. and vladimir putin. we'll tell you what he said after this. . emerge tremfyant®. trememfya® is approved to help reduce... joint symptoms in adadults with active psoriatic arthritis. some patients even felt less f fatigued. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vacc

but trump's -- he was fundraising yesterday off the sea from tish james, despite the fact that there is another ongoing investigation into how he is spending the money he has raised from his pack. who are these donors? and at some point, are the donors, like the, banks like, dude, if you are going to give this guy money, buyer beware. he is going to spend it wherever the heck he wants. you don't care? >> yeah. i think that is a really good question. i don't know the answer to that. we are seeing this play out in a bunch of different forms. we have learned that trump has managed to repay most of what -- deutsche bank, by getting some other kind of third tier lenders to cut off of hundreds of millions of dollars to lend to him. we see what he is doing with the fundraising appeal to -- this lawsuit for his past that are already under investigation. we are seeing this also with the social media company that he is trying to get off the ground, with the fundraising behind that is also under investigation by government agencies, including the securities -- so, basically, everywhere trump is

rest west assured, assured tish james that -- houston something has done something now now that thatelse has done. snow one else has done. whether it is going and whether it's to be fanny -- in wellness in georgia, or georgia the -- in or -- in washington. you name it washington, you name. . this is taxes. this is taxes. numbers don't numbers don't lie, people do. lie. people donald trump do. and donald trump lies, so the problem lies. so the problem is you is, they can't can't even get even get him on to the him on stands in order to -- testify, in order to because if you do testify because if you you know, do he is not, he's not going to tell the truth. going to tell the truth and he is -- you're gonna catchments her in a heartbeat. you're going to catch him in harvey. >> michael, lieutenant colonel james had flat out the investigation started after michael de cohen testify to congress that mr. trump and his employees manipulated his network to suit his interest. that's testimony that you get before congress was getting 2019. and additional to suing him, the ag also made criminal r

tish james was basically laying out this is the stuff he knows and he knows he was conning and scamming and grifting. so this really cuts to the heart of what trump is. and the empire that he built, she alleges fraudulently. >> but do you believe that this will have any real impact on those people who still support him? >> no. >> the report that we saw from "the washington post." >> no. >> don't even continue the question. >> you can. his base is so concentrated, i've likened it to those frozen cans of orange juice. you're supposed to add water and stir. but that fan base is very, very loyal. if you look at other polls, most americans think, for example, the fbi's search of mar-a-lago was totally appropriate. most americans think he's probably going to face some legal jeopardy in one of these several suits. so, no. his base is firm baked. but, you know, we'll see if there's enough of them anymore to elect him again. >> s.e. cupp, ambassador eisen, thank you. >>> tearful good-byes in russia as soldiers leave their families for the battleground. the impact of putin's mobilization of 300,0

tish james has assembled 200 specific incidents for a fraudulent statement that changes the resources economic deals or deflates to obtain better tax treatment. so, this is a very strong complaint it will have to be tested in court and it is two over former top executives that is a strong starting gambit. >> you have been dealing with these dealings now, this is how long it goes back. were you surprised by how much new york, laetitia james found? was there anything in this that you having sort of threw a lot of this found surprising? >> this is hard for me to admit that there is a lot that i found surprising. a lot of things that i've been looking for that i had never found or thought to look for she has the power to subpoena people, but there was interesting things you found about the way he valued real estate in new york, where he valued his own apartment complex. a part when he lived in a new york. the way they dealt with insurers, banks, appraisers. to me, the most amazing thing was the degree in which he was accused of lying to the people who work for him. to the accountant, so t

and, tish james is the only turning point.nk is going to be a race to see who is going to get first. i am betting on tish james, to cause i have not been that impressed from what i see. >> and george,. either charles, you are the resident lawyer here. what do you think? that's just bring us any closer to seeing donald trump held accountable? also, curious your thoughts if he is never held accountable, what does that say for the rest of americans about our justice system? >> tiffany, i think both of those are very, very critical questions. the first, one in terms of being held accountable, not so much. i tend to agree with jason. here this is a guy who, from the civil side, has gotten sued literally hundreds of times. but this is a little bit different, because it carries with it criminal referrals. this becomes without referrals, what are doj, the irs, and potentially, the sd and why, who have already looked at this information going to do with it? they have seen it before. so, it could be that throughout the course of this in

they dropped the 12 sealed indictments, bragg, by not going forward early on, that's why i say tish jamess exactly the type of prosecutor, the type of attorney general that new york, and actually all states, need desperately. >> well, it's been three and a half years since you testified before congress and told them this was happening, and now today this filing from the new york ag. michael cohen, thank you. >>> also tune in to the m mea culpa podcast. >> it's interesting, revenge, the book, or you can buy it on amazon or any place you buy books. >> we will be getting that soon. thank you for being here. >>> president biden addressed the united nations today and said russia's war in ukraine is a war chosen by one man. that man, vladimir putin, issued major threats to fortify his invasion. >> again, just today president putin has made overt nuclear threats against europe in reckless disregard for the responsibilities of a non proliferation regime. now russia is calling up more soldiers to join the fight and the kremlin is organizing a sham referendum to try to annex parts of ukraine. >> pu

. >> new york attorney general tish james announcing a sweeping lawsuit against donald trump and hisefore judges said the justice department could keep investigating classified documents. it was a perilous week for the former president on the legal front. six different cases are closing in. jon karl is tracking them all. >> reporter: in politics and in business, donald trump has faced countless investigations and lawsuits over the years and survived. even for trump the legal jeopardy he now faces is unprecedented. he faces at least six major investigations. in a sense, the walls may be closing in. new york's attorney general hit the trump organization with a lawsuit alleging trump, his company and his children, don jr., ivanka and eric, overvalued their as ets. trump responded the way he always does one accused of wrong doing. >> this is a continuation of a witch hunt that began when i came down the escalator at trump tower. >> reporter: the lawsuit aims to make it impossible for trump to continue to do business in new york. it also included a criminal referral to federal prosecutors

what do you make of the tish james's move to essentially refer trump to the sdny and the irs? >> i think it's important, although i think they would've had access to a lot of the same information that the new york attorney general has. she has an easier case to make and the several litigation. so there's a lower standard of proof. and there's another thing that federal prosecutors have to decide is that these many criminal investigations that are swirling around the former president, the insurrection, the fake elector scheme, the classified documents at mar-a-lago, where does this new information come in? since it mainly involves trump 's conduct before he was president, i think that it's likely in terms of a criminal prosecution, to take up backburner to his attempt to overturn our democracy. and we still don't know what in the world he was doing with those classified documents. of course, he hasn't offered any proof that he what he was doing was illegal. >> let me ask you about that, really quickly, general, because not that the appeals court has overturned kenneth's favorit

michael cohen i want you to take a listen to what he said a short time ago on msnbc >> this case with tish james is the one that is definitely keeping him up at night. he believes that the georgia case, he will be able to defeat by finalizing the issue of mens rhea of the guilty party do not know that he was doing anything he believed that the 11,700 and something votes that were stolen from him. so he was just telling them to go find the stolen votes not looking to break the law the tish games case destroys him his whole life's ego it's all about his financial wealth. >> david i wonder what you make of the assessment there. >> i think michael cohen is right on the money there. donald has a long history of not just inflating assets but when it will help him get it more money. and deflating assets when he wants to pay less taxes. he has gone to farcical levels to high documents. claim they were destroyed by a broken water pipe. and auditors were literally at the door oh, we were just accidentally wiping them all off the computer. so this is just totally. this is the behavior. and cohen is exactly

. >> i think the issue for tish james is convincing a jury that he is so successfully duped his lenders it's a civil case. and i think she's got a lot of wind at her back, but that, you know, that gap between exaggeration, believeiation, and lying and committing a crime is the test of this whole thing. >> it absolutely is. it's going to be fascinating to watch. if it becomes criminal, it's a higher burden of proof. tim, thank you. >> and coming up next, the january 6th committee confirms the date of what may be their final hearing. and that they will be talking with ginni thomas about her own attempts to overturn the election. we'll be right back. don't mind me. i'm just the flu. i'm quite harmless, really. and when people ask, “but aren't you linked to dangerous flu complications, like pneumonia, heart attack, and hospitalizations?” i just say, “but, i'm just the flu.” it's him! who? i'm just the flu! fight the flu with sanofi flu vaccines, which help prevent flu in older adults. they've even been shown to provide better protection from flu-related complications compared to standard do

this morning, new york attorney general tish james holds a press conference. some folks believe that that may have something to do with the trump organization, down in georgia, district attorney fawny willis is reported to be considering subpoenaing the former president himself, and always looming over his head is this possibility that the justice department might succeed in holding him responsible for the insurrection. i would say what happens overall here is the cross-effect between these different investigations. doj is likely to develop evidence in the course of the classified documents case that could impact the outcome of the insurrection investigation. witnesses tend to know about more than one instance of misconduct, by someone that they are closely connected to. and so, i think it's this tightening of the net around trump that he should be the most worried about. >> perry, there are so many developments seemingly by the hour on these various legal fronts. the one story line that was at the center of the conversation in the immediate aftermath of the f

you know, his fortune is being threatened in new york by tish james. his liberty is potentially threatened in georgia by fani willis, the prosecutor now there. the committee is still meeting. the justice department is investigating. he's got all of these legal problems that are closing in on him, and, you know, one or two or three, he's got four or five. you know, that's a lot. so he's definitely on the defensive now, and as he always does, making stuff up, you know, i can classify documents just by thinking about it, and oh, yeah, and the fbi planted documents in my place, but the justice system is saying, okay, put up or shut up, and he's going to have to shut up. >> yeah, well, he said that again to sean hannity that the fbi planted documents and we're going to get into that next. the special master ordering donald trump's legal team to back up the claims that the fbi planted evidence. we'll talk about what that means for trump's legal fight. plus, conspiracy theorist alex jones takes the stand in what is now the second trial over his lies about the

that the 200-plus-page lawsuit that wii continuing to unpack from new york attorney tish james against-president, his company, will be the president's ultimate downfall. and this time, although he's already trying, donald trump can't get away with throwing other people, even if they're his own children, under the bus. joining our coverage, joining harry and i, david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning author, he's wrote several books, his most recent, "the big cheat: how donald trump fleeced america and enriched himself and his family." i think from your appearances and the things you've written, i first understood that these were not flukes or bugs. this was the main feature of trump's time in private practice, in business, that it was all a head fake. it was all, you know, junk underneath and if you just scratch, there was really nothing of value. tell me what you make of the lawsuit yesterday. >> well, letitia james' staff has done something very smart. the way they framed this lawsuit, they take away the defense donald has always used. i just said what the lawyers told me to say,

tish james, the attorney general investigated on a civil base.riminal base, and alvin brag, the manhattan d.a. was investigating on a criminal basis. allen weisselberg is going to be sentenced for five months to prison for his role in a similar financial scheme. that could be the future for others involved with the trump organization. you know, what's important to know here is that even though this is a civil matter, it is still, as david said, a big deal. letitia james, attorney general of new york is the one who successfully went after the trump foundation, the charitable arm of the trump organization and led to its dissolution, and so, yeah, there are a lot of bad things that can happen here short of putting the trump family in handcuffs. >> david enrich, greatest legal peril that he's ever faced, that's what you just said, my question to you is a basic one, where is he going to get the lawyers now? >> that is a good question. and this is a topic i explore in my book. lawyers had been tiptoeing for him, and now they are running away from him a