in london, mike tobin, fox news. >> from london to washington there's been a lot of reaction about the third major attack to hit uk in the last few months. >> this evening, president trump spoke out about the attack saying the united states stands with the people of britain. "fox5" marina marraco has since last night's attack in london we're hearing from president trump this was minutes ago at ford's theater following a gala. >> america sends our tho thoughts, ours prayers and deepest sympathies to the victims of this evil slaughter and we renew or resolve stronger than ever before to protect the united states and its alli from a vooil enemy that has waged war tonight in life and it's gone on too long this bloodshed must end this blood shed will end. >> and throughout the day there's been a small display here at the british embassy of mourners paying respects following the latest attacks in the uk. there have been a string of attacks in the past few months starting back in late march that happened on the westminster bridge where six were killed folwi that rammed into a coyd on one of t

joe tobin nabbed it off sunset beach cape may sunday night.lls us the shark was about 4 feet long, wade 35 e pictures and video before tobin put it back in the water. that's good. speaking every animals from under the sea, giant lobster, look at the size of this thing, caught the attention of the tsa. you can see an agent at boston logan airport holding the big crustation, a passenger was taking the 20-pound animal in a checked bag. it was alive and in a cooler, liver lobsters are allowed in check baggage, as long as they're in the right container. they say lobsters routinely discovered in baggage along the new england region. no word on where that lobster was headed or what happened when it got there. >> well, can you say but ther? >> just hoping it was someone's pet. >> who keeps a lobster -- >> he's cute. cute! >> but it is so cute. >> royal. >> sebastian from the little mermaid. >> now, back to land. a moose seems to like a town outside of denver, they removed it and took it back to the wild. but yesterday it showed up again. yes, here is

fisherman reels in quite the catch down the shore, check out this hammerhead shark that gentlemen tobin caught in cape may last night. we are told shark was about 4 feet long and weighed between 30 to 35-pound. tobin snapped a few pictures, before putting the shark, back in the water. >> quite the catch. >> probably like, okay, bye. >> yes, you know, wonder if mary lee is by. >> very brave to hold that. >> yes. >> right out of the water, like that guy with the lobster a half an hour ago. >> yes. >> chelsea's here with the look at the forecast. gorgeous day. if you start off a week this is how you do it. >> stunning, low dew points low humidity, things feeling fantastic. live look outside, center city that is reflection on of how just gorgeous it is, couple of couple rust included out there but overall dry weather, and things are just looking good. lets get to a live look at storm scan three now where not too much going on, we have a couple showers well off to our north and west even just north of the state college. we could see a stray shower this evening but overall things are looking

fox news channel's mike tobin with the latest in london. hey, mike. >> hey, neil. as night falls on a rainy london town, police have released two of the identities of the three attackers. the first is rachid reduoane. a bit of a mystery. believes to be 30 years old. police can't pin down his country of origin. it's a didn't case with khuram butt. he's been known since 2015 primarily because he spouted off about radical islamic ideology. officials lacked intelligence that accrued attack was eminent. scotland yard is asking for more information. >> we're saying that the muslim community had a duty to report it. >> now, additional raids were conducted in a borough called barking this morning. this follows a raid outside a couple boroughs outside of london. police believe there's a larger network of sympathizers, aides or those that knew an attack was coming. in one raid, they picked up one and released one. so with the information right now, 11 people have been held by police, neil. >> thanks very much. mike tobin in london. authorities had one of the suspects on thei

correspondent mike tobin has the emotional reaction from the victim's mother. >> the system continues to fail black people and they will continue to fail you all. >> reporter: emotions running high after a police officer who fatally shot a man is acquitted on all charges. yanez pulled castile over for a broken taillight, but the stop quickly escalated. yanez fired into the car thinking later he was going for his gun. >> it is time we have a young man who had no criminal record, who was a 13-year employee of the st. paul public school system. this time, this time there shouldn't have been in our opinion a very, very, very different outcome. >> reporter: the death sparked nationwide attention after broadcasting the shooting's aftermath live on facebook. he thought he matched the description of the recent robbery on the steps of the courthouse shortly after the verdict >> people have died for us to have these rights. but now we're going back there tonight. what is it going to take? i'm mad, yes, i am. >> i also don't doubt yanez is a decent person as people testified in court. but he mad

mike tobin. fox news. >> from london to d.c. there's a lot of reaction over the third major attack to hit the uk in the last few months. tonight president trump talked about the attack. "fox5" marina marraco is live at the british embass gli northwest with more. hi, marina. >> jim it's the first time we're hearing with president trump. he spoke moments ago town downtown at the ford theater following a phone call with fer ees amay, take say listen. >> america sends our thought and our prayers and deepest sympathies to the victims of this evil slaughter and we renew our resolve stronger than ever before to protect the units and it's allies are from a vile enemy that waged war on innocent life and has gone on too long. this bloodhed must bloodshed mu will end. >> and here uptown just a few blocks away from the ford's theater at the british embassy a small display from mourners who paid their respects following last night's attack in london and there's been a string of attacks in the recent months starting in late march that first o

mike tobin will join us and we will talk about a dangerous turn over syria. russia warning it will treat u.s. fighter jets as "military targets." please stay with us. will you be rey when the moment turns romantic? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have a sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis. and get medical help right away. >> eric: welcome back. fox news reports that otto warmbier, the u.s. student freed from north korea last week, has died. let's bring in mike tobin with the latest. is there any white house response? >> we don't have anyways whi

mexican when our mike tobin reporting.ricans who oppose the concept of century city's work americans are striking back >> imagine if kate had been your daughter. jamil or drew, yours son. >> a new voice in the sanctuary city to vase. a grieving father asks president trump to make good on a campaign promise. >> i'm asking president trump to withhold federal funds from california. then, maybe politicians will put our safety first. >> california is already a century state, but rosenberg refers to a sweeping bill that would prevent all police in california from inquiring, detaining, responding, assisting, or providing to federal agents any information about individuals' immigration status. >> imagine if he had been his son. >> >> rosenberg lost his son to illegal immigrant roberto gallo. police stopped gallo for a driving infarction, but services go refused to turn them over for deportation. a short time later, gallo killed drew on a hit and run. >> this is an abolishment of the cultural and economic contributions made to our

fox news channel's mike tobin with the latest in london. hey, mike. >> hey,

in london, mike tobin, julie back to you. >>> a sign of the increased tensions in europe, a car slamming into a wall near amsterdam's main train station and police there saying there is no sign that it is an attack. of course when this news broke, a lot of people concerned that it could possibly be the worst. instead they say it appears the driver was ill. it was just an accident. the crash did hurt, though, at least eight people, two seriously. the whole thing does remain under investigation. >>> well, the american military is launching its latest airborne tool, the f-35 stealth fighter, one of the most advanced fighter jets ever. our own jon scott got to take the controls in a simulated flight. want to take a ride? you will after the break. and from the skies to the sea, america's newest warship the first to be named for a living woman since mrs. washington, a woman whose life and perseverance is an inspiration to all. >> this is a credible honor. -- this is an incredible honor. the uss gabrielle giffords is the uss gabriel

what we know is that he is 27 years old and held under the terrorism act. >> bret: mike tobin in london. senior pentagon officials say a russian fighter jet intercepted a u.s. b-52 bomber over the baltic sea today. spokesman says the american plane was on a routine mission in international airspace. it's not known how close the russian jet game to the u.s. b-52. intercept is the latest example of aggressive russian actions aimed at the u.s. military and homeland in recent weeks. a federal contractor is facing serious charges tonight, accused of giving state the news media. it is the first such arrest, as the trump administration tries to plug the leaks. catherine herridge has details. >> according to the fbi, 25-year-old government contractor reality winner is accused of leaking top-secret national security agency intelligence on russia's alleged election interference. at her home in georgia, her parents emphasized her military record. >> she served for six years with distinction, no disciplinary action. >> i want her to be treated fairly. >> winner worked as a contracto contractor. her

tucker. >> tucker: mike tobin, thanks for the background.ongressman roger williams represents texas. he is the coach of the republican baseball team. one of his staffers were shot today. the doctors say he is expected to be all right. congressman williams joins us tonight. congressman, thanks a lot for coming on. first to the man on the staff who was shot, can you give me an update? >> zack barth was shot in the leg as you heard from congressman brooks. we have his father in houston. he just got released from the hospital. so, he is doing well. our prayers are answered, that he has made it through this. we are happy for it. >> tucker: how old is he? >> he's probably about 25 years old, university of texas graduate, works in my office, it is a really good job. >> tucker: that is unbelievable. there were security at the scene for the members there but i can't imagine, how did it ever occur to you that something like this could happen? >> no. we had been playing out there at least since i have been in congress since 2012. we've been out there e

our own mike tobin is on the story from london. hi, mike. >> reporter: hi, elizabeth.ems with each day we learn a little bit more about the attacks and get a look at more of the evidence. london metropolitan police have released the images of those fake bomb belts in the siege, if you will, last saturday night in the pub area of town. not sophisticated at all. these are pretty much disposable water bottles wrapped up with district tape attached to a leather belt. these -- the fake belt is tactic certainly not seen in the u.k. before. police speculate that the motivation would be to create maximum fear, make someone pause before shooting the attackers. yesterday police released images of bombs left in the attackers' van. those were very real, and it's not clear why those were not used in the attack. and we're hearing from one of the first officers who responded to the scene. inspector jim cole said one of the first things he did was send a medic down to the basement of a pub and set up triage. >> a gentleman had been stab inside the stomach. he was taken downstairs to s

the very latest on the election results, let's go straight to a fox news correspondent mike tobin, liveutside of parliament. >> hello there, jackie, just a short time ago, southhampton went away that the conservatives do not want to see it go. the southhampton constituency went to the labour party, and with that happen, it was official. they cannot arrive at the magic number of 326 seats to gain the majority in parliament. that is what the example suggested would happen all along. where do you go next? the next step is to attempt to assemble a coalition government. and they enter the period of what is called horsetrading. you start to gather up some of the smaller parties and buy into their interest and get them to come into your coalition so that you can cobble together a majority in that fashion, but the problem with that, as we saw the liberal democratic party coming forward and saying they would not be a part of a coalition government, not bargaining to that effect. and it is really hard to imagine a scenario given all of the special interest and the axes to grind that the different

julie: mike tobin, thank you very much. kelly: president trump is calling out qatar. his comments at a joint news conference yesterday coming after several arab countries including saudi arabia and egypt cut off diplomatic ties with the small persian gulf country over its financial support for terrorists. ambassador robert jordan is the former u.s. ambassador to saudi arabia, diplomat in residence at southern methodist university and author of the book "desert diplomat." sir, good of you to join us. mr. ambassador, i would start off with are you shocked about this news about qatar? >> not really. kelly: why? >> this has been coming for a long time. it's like a slow-moving train wreck. the saudis and emiratis have had a continuing struggle with qatar for many years. a lot of it is petty jealousies, a lot of it is disrespect. al-jazeera, for example, the tv and news network in qatar has been very critical of the saudi royal family for many years. back during the time i was ambassador, the saudis pulled their embassy from doha because of an article about king abdullah, t

first mike tobin is live near the scene. reporter: latest is a lot of people are getting ready to breathe a sigh of relief for that concert in manchester. just two weeks since the attack of the ariana grande concert. she took back to the stage. nce the attack of the ariana grande a concert. she went back to the stage before some 50000 people. there was a litany of pop stars with her. everything seem to have gone off without a hitch. there were a lot of police and security. it's probably a little too early to say everybody made it home without any trouble, but so far so good. >> how are people reacting to how police handled the response. it was remarkable how quickly they moved in. >> that is noted by the people here in london, and the people over the airwaves. it was a matter of minutes before police arrived with weapons drawn. some eight minutes later, it was all over. they went into this crowded area of partygoers, discharged 50 rounds said to be on precedented by british standards. there is one account that a bystander wa

mike tobin has the latest from london. >> images of blood's laddered fake bomb belts are the latest evidence to be released in the wake of the attack one week ago. they are not sophisticated at all. they are disposable water bottles wrapped in duct tape. each of the attackers were wearing a fake suicide belt when they jumped out of a van and began slashing people in london. investigators say they were to maximize fear and speculate they may have been intended to help with hostagetaking and hesitation before the attackers were shot. yesterday they released images of petrol bombs. those were very real. it is not clear why they were not used in the attack. we're hearing from one of the first metropolitan police officers that responded. jim tells a harrowing tale of sending a medic into the basement of a pub for triage. >> a gentleman had been stabbed in the stomach. he was taken downstairs to see the medic and, at that point there were still shots ring out in a string of people came out the market running and screaming. we literally just pushed them into the basement and it seemed like the safe

mike tobin joins us from london. >> the first of those terrorists identified is rachid redouane. they assume he is 30. investigators cannot pin down his country of origin. different case for khurum shazad butt. he was well known to police, as well as mi5. primarily he got on the radar for talking a great deal about radical islamist ideology. you mentioned anti-terror raids. they've been happening since the weekend. a couple boroughs outside london. they picked up some 12 people. at least 11 are being held. investigators believe they killed all the attackers but believe there might be a wider network. as london mourns, thousands have gathered in an area known as potters field for a vigil. an angry london mayor, sadiq khan, said the attackers used a perverse ideology that's against the faith of islam. the commander of scotland yard is appealing to the public, particularly the muslim community. >> eric: they named two of the attackers. they have identified all three. why are they waiting to name the third? >> it has to do with him being international. they are trying to pin down exa

now, we do want to warn you we're going to show that video of a naked man who appears tobin intrudingo some. this happened about a month ago here in montgomery county. now, as you can see it appears that the man is at first meandering outside. this happening about midnight. in the next clip, you see that the man looks like he's trying to either open a window or open some sort of a side door there. this all happened before a censored light pops or turns on and they understand up taking off there. well, as you might have guessed, the homeowner when he went to to review the surveillance video, the very next day, he was saying that he was completely caught off guard about what he saw. he spoke to us about the whole ordeal but chose not to reveal himself, reveal his identity on camera for safety and well-being of his family >> we're unapologetic in the

fox news chicago correspondent mica has been on it all day -- fox news chicago correspondent mike tobinas on it all day. hey, mike. >> there are many people saying they didn't see signs of trouble with hodgkinson but a neighbor told our producer that he was an angry little man, a pushy little bastard he said. he had run-ins with the law. in 2006 he was at the center of a big domestic disturbance according to a report from the sheriff's department he punched a woman in the face, dragged her daughter around by the hair and fired a shotgun in anger. in march of this year, a neighbor called the sheriff because hodgkinson was out in a field firing his rifle. >> i thought good grief, there are houses over there and everything. i yelled at him. "hey, stop shooting, there are houses over there and everything." i didn't get any kind of a notion from him that he heard me or that he even cared. >> he ranted about leftist politics and he wrote 18 letters to the ederitor of the local newspaper about taxes and top income earners. his facebook page has been taken down but it claimed that president tru

. >> mike tobin, thank you very much. they are in london and mike is reporting there is more developing each hour as british counterterrorism authorities work to investigate those behind london terror attacks. we are live in washington where we are following the investigation. garrett, what can you tell us? >> british security sources are reporting the very early indications suggest that the attacks may have been put together on short notice. right now one of the top sent by say this could have been part of a larger plan additional attached to becoming. this is why they're now trying to learn as much as they can about the three attackers. they were, who do they communicate with and who if anyone, help them carry out the attacks. >> where increasing confidence of the attack by three individuals. [inaudible] >> what the police chief is a leading to there is where these attackers inspired by the terrorist propaganda and acting alone for what a part of a larger self and acting the direction under a terrorist group? at this ti

mike tobin is live in london with the very latest. >> reporter: julie, i'll start off in amsterdam wheree good news right now is it does

first, let's go to mike tobin live in london with the latest from there. mike? >> reporter: and harris, we're watching a crowd of defiant people at the emirates old travert cricket ground where, ariana grande took the stage to deafening cheers of 50,000 fans, despite the attack two weeks ago, they packed the grounds to see ariana grande and litany of other pop stars to watch her retake the stage. we saw defiance of people around london, if you went away from the crime scene. the cafes, the pubs were packed on a sunny day. as people say if they alter their lifestyle, the terrorists win, harris. >> i mentioned the first crime scene, the iconic london bridge, we feather out from there because there was more than one crime scene. >> reporter: essentially one large crime scene if you look at the way it's cordoned off in london. the attackers ran with knives, pretty much a location where i am now. what we know from the crime scene, they towed away the van used in the attack. police going slow and methodically through the crime scene gathering up all the evidence they

mike tobin is following the developments. >> the united kingdom still reeling from the attack saturday night that three attackers all dead killed by police gunfire. all three have been identified, two identities released by police. rachid redouane and khurum shazad butt. known to police and m mi5 searching for a larger network. 12 picked up in barking. british investigators plead for more help from the public and muslim community. >> you have three people in concert, there must've been some discussion around it and some people must've known something. the newsom community -- muslim community has a duty to report >> the attack became quickly politicized. >> you cannot protect the public on the cheap. the police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts. >> what we have done is insured police have the powers they need to deal with the terrorists. the anti-terror legislation had been imposed throughout his career by jeremy corbin. >> officials have released the identities of some killed by the attackers. christine archibald portably died after being st

fox news chicago correspondent mica has been on it all day -- fox news chicago correspondent mike tobinas on it all day. hey, mike. >> there are many people saying they didn't see signs of trouble with hodgkinson but a neighbor told our producer that he was an angry little man, a pushy little bastard he said. he had run-ins with the law. in 2006 he was at the center of a big domestic disturbance according to a report from the sheriff's department he punched a woman in the face, dragged her daughter around by the hair and fired a shotgun in anger. in march of this year, a neighbor called the sheriff because hodgkinson was out in a field firing his rifle. >> i thought good grief, there are houses over there and everything. i yelled at him. "hey, stop shooting, there are houses over there and everything." i didn't get any kind of a notion from him that he heard me or that he even cared. >> he ranted about leftist politics and he wrote 18 letters to the ederitor of the local newspaper about taxes and top income earners. his facebook page has been taken down but it claimed that president tru

take a look, joe tobin was with his wife when he caught hammer head shark.tch sunday night off of sunset beach in cape may. his wife said the slacker was about 4 feet long, wade about 30 pounds, took few pictures with it, and the video, before putting back into the water. >> in this guy, though, is not lucky enough to return to the water. a tsa agent spot add 20-pound lobster in a checked bag. >> this happened at boston's logan airport. the tsa says it is not unusual to find lobsters in checked luggage in new england. but this one may have been the biggest one agents have discovered. it was cleared to fly, no word on where it was headed or what happened whether it arrived. >> well, we will be right back with three to go. stay with us. and still have dry eye symptoms? ready for some relief? xiidra is the first and only eye drop approved for both the signs and symptoms of dry eye. one drop in each eye, twice a day. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and unusual taste sensation. don't touch containe

what that means from senior correspondent mike tobin in london tonight. >> badly weakened by an election called, british prime minister and theresa may went to buckingham palace to tell the queen she was to form the government. her plan backfired as her conservative tory party lost the majority in parliament but still remain the largest party. she calmly stated that conservatives were joining forces with the democratic unionist of northern ireland. there are ten seats are enough to create a majority and keep may in power. >> what the country needs more than ever it is certainty. and having secured the largest numbers of boats and the greatest numbers of seats in the general election, it is clear that only the conservative and unionist party have a religion see and ability to provide that certainty and by commanding a majority in the house of commons. >> however, representatives of the tradition and precedent du p have only negotiated forming a government. >> the prime minister spoke with me this morning. we will enter discussion with the conservatives to explore how this may be possible

>> it's one of the worst ads i've seen in politics, reminds me of an ad in georgia that tied an ad tobin had enthat shocked a lot of people. >> how much do you think it will have an impact? >> you know i don't know. this is like this nerdy john ossoff -- and to tie him to political violence, it's disgusting, but, you know what these kind of negative ads like that, they use them for a reason because often they work. >> politics is a dirty business. there's also this radio ad that put out by a pro trump group, use the former president's barack obama's voice out of president. listen to this. >> police brutality rampid when the so-called committee come around election time we don't line up -- sell our souls for a christmas turkey. let's not sell out for another christmas turkey. >> obama says this is a fraudulent use of his voice. what the ad doesn't say that the audio is actually president obama reading a passage from his book, dreams of my father, and he's quoting someone else. >> he's playing a character. >> what the health hell is happening here? mark? >> we shouldn't be surprised any of

i want to congratulate 90-year-old world war ii veteran william tobin who graduated yesterday from highly to serve in the navy during world war ii. when he returned, he married and build a home and raised three beautiful kids. i school diploma was always something that was on his bucket last and yesterday he got official that dream. god bless him and all the veterans who served and all the fathers out there. a very happy father's day to all of you out there. god bless you. have a great weekend and mr. hannity is up next. ♪ >> welcome to "hannity" and this is a fox news report. fox news has confirmed a disturbing report from "the daily caller" a list containing a name of republican lawmakers wass f foud on the gunman was targeting republican lawmakers earlier this week for assassination. newt gingrich, michelle malkin, patrick j buchanan, mike myers will all be here with reaction. but first, the unelected fourth branch of government, the deep state is trying to overturn the results of november's election and throw this president out of office. how did a bunch of unelected bureaucrats get

. >> not your traditional graduate. 90-year-old william tobin. he is 90 and part of the class of 2017 at rockville high school in connecticut. he left high school early back in 1944 and he did it to serve in the navy during world war ii. when he came home, he got married, he built a house, he raised three kids, but getting a high school diploma was always on his bucket list. so he reached out to the school principal for some help and he could not believe the response that he got. >> he got the diploma guaranteed, you don't have to worry about it. how about that history course? i said you made history, you don't need it. >> he met the state rules for retired military members to receive a diploma but he was told there was a catch. he had to go to the school to pick it up on graduation day. when he got there, the principal invited him to participate in the ceremony. you see he was putting on his cap and gown there, getting a little choked up. you're going to cry over this, aren't you? >> that is so sweet. >>> well, right now at 6:00, we are getting

but first, we go to london come up to mike tobin, who joins us with the latest way good evening. >> goodning. evil, evil people. that is the way the london pub goers describe the attackers. they are horrific tales, one woman whose head was grabbed from behind before she was stabbed in the neck. there are tales of pub goers of throwing rocks, bottles, chairs, at the attackers. there was a story of christine archibald from canada, who was struck by the van on that bridge. she died in the arms of her fiance at the attackers/their way through borough market. >> i was stabbing this woman constantly, nonstop forever, just dabbing her from every direction. lunging at her. they said, "this is for a la." >> loving, and caring, and no one could ever replace her. >> there were 40 of us in the story, there were gunshots. we were just lying on the floor and everyone was looking at each other. >> all three attackers have been identified. two of their identities release released. not very well-known to to investigators, but as you mentioned, one was very well known to police and am i five a radical ide

we will go live to mike tobin in london with more on this tonight. what is going on?e exit polling numbers are accurate, a couple of explanations that the tories are learning the hard way. one is that the antiestablishment passion is not going away. two, a downside to risk. they took a risk with the brexit voting. the prime minister theresa may took a big gamble calling for this early election, antonella according to the exit poll numbers, she has lost her majority. the labour party, her opponents gained seats, but not enough for a majority either. the british pound is taking a big hit. bouncing back a little bit, but down considerably. make no mistake about it, terrorism did play a role in this outcome. theresa may went in thinking it would be a one issue election, all about brexit, but campaigning was stopped twice because of terrorist bloodshed. that open the door for her opponents, jeremy corbyn to criticize their republicans for measures that they say undercut police. couple that with the fact that theresa may lacks a sizzle on the campaign. she refuses to take p

mike tobin has more from our london bureau.their sights set on greater bloodshed. one of the attackers attempted to rent a bigger truck, 7 1/2 tons. now that truck was similar to the one used in the attack in nice one year ago. that attack killed 86 people. his credit was declined and the attackers had to go with a smaller van. in that van investigators found more than a dozen molotov cocktails made from wine bottles and rags. there was also gravel inside the van, investigators speculate that may have been for traction and office chairs, those may have been a diversion so the attackers could claim they were renting the van for a move. although all three attackers are dead, investigators continue to conduct raids, believing the attackers had help. two more people were arrested last night in east london. we have seen 18 people arrested. -- >> we have seen 18 people arrested of course various parts of london. that's all to understand whether anybody had knowledge, whether they assisted or supported these attackers. i expect more s