cheering there's toensing and music. and the people here are just waiting for that first glimpse of the man who's expected to be soon in around friday as president of zimbabwe this is us public appearance since he left the country last week that's off to he was dismissed by the then president oh robert mugabe he was the vice at that time. a statement he released late to hone indicated that he had left the country fearing for his life and now he's come back . we are expecting one to go where to speak to people here they very much want to express their gratitude to. what they consider a. new. we do understand he'll also speak to members of the forty eight he was voted him over the weekend as the new president of the ruling party here in zimbabwe and people here now just waiting for the first was from innocent. out symmetry it would set the tone of what's expected in the coming days as he's sworn in. and also to set the tone around perhaps how he looks to take the country forward a given the economic and political difficult

here is campbell's attorney, victoria toensing. she previously worked in the reagan justice department and is one of the great americans. good to see you. let's begin with the frustrating delay that congress is experiencing that we are following this important case and story. why has there been such a delay? the justice department at the president's order lifted the gag order. why is he not talking to congress? >> he has to talk to me first, lou. preparing a major witness under ordinary circumstances is a herculean task for a lawyer. i have to go from not knowing anything about the case which is where i was in september to knowing everything about the case. six years and 5,000 documents is a lot to digest. you have to get the witness to have facts organized in his mind. in campbell was diagnosed in october of 2016 with leukemia. but this was his second cancer diagnosis in 7 years. the reason he reached out to provide this situation is he said he did not want to go to his grave knowing this story and not having it told. lou: we all

victoria toensing is the informant's attorney.an you tell us this morning on your client? >> i spent last week with him and i went over many of these thousands of pages of documents. you can imagine it is a big pile. and also my client provided oral briefings to the f.b.i. starting somewhat in 2008 but really getting into it in 2009. over the period of six years. what's important are the timing before october 2010. during that time period, the u.s. government heard two issues from my client. the first issue was the pervasive corruption within the russian uranium industry and trust me, it's only one industry. it reports to the kremlin and to putin. there are not diverse companies as the press has falsely reported. >> sandra: i want to talk about this tape, this audio tape that apparently exists with hard evidence of what was going on. peter schweitzer talking about that and i want to get your reaction on the other side. >> i've heard about the tape from people at the f.b.i. and that audio tape apparently is russian officials with t

also joining us, is the attorney for the fbi informant, victoria toensing along with john and sara.a, let's start with your report. a treasure trove. that is huge. >> it is, sean. there's over 5,000 documents which include e-mails, briefs, other documentation, memorandums, that the informant had turned over to the fbi and justice department. within these documents, it's very evident of russia's intentions to enter the american energy market and their intentions to acquire you are a rainium one. >> sean: john you going into extensive detail in retailing how the fbi informant, you said six years, i thought he was an informant for four years. if i read your piece correct. he has evidence, was on the inside, directly from putin's russia, the push for nuclear fuel deals. and use, all the crimes we've talked about, bribry, racketeering, corroborated, will be corroborated further go. into your report. >> sara said something about the importance of the dominance of the uranium market. this is an e-mail that the fbi had for six years. it shows that uranium one was part of a russian strategy

we also know that the fbi under cover informant according to his lawyer victoria toensing is preparedtell congress that the russians told him they picked apco specifically because of the clinton connections they expected apco's support. >> sean: they picked apco specifically. >> they picked apco specifically and they expected support to go up after russia hired them. that's what his lawyer is saying. i think it's a fairly significant development. >> this is before cfius and the board denying government agencies including the at a time and attorney general signed off of it. >> are a they weren't work working on uranium bun one and helping. uranium one was a separate deal part of the same strategy. they were working very differently on something that is much more valuable billions of dollars of new utility contracts in the united states that were authorized by barack obama. >> sean: sara, let's go to the money side of this and you know the fbi informant and have you discussed some of these things with him. two things that are important here. one is follow the money. number two is the ti

the expansion of the allowable toensing under section 179 $5 billion worth of annual capital expenditures also expires after five years. and the family flexibility tax credit? to mr.thold: i noted blumenauer that the family portion for the taxpayer and taxpayers spouse expires after five years. the child credit is permanent. kind: and one reason for doing that is clearly to mask the size of the shortfall in revenue. but you have been around here long enough to realize, as many of us do in committee, that when these popular tax provisions suddenly expire or are on the out, congressng doesn't have the stomach typically to let that happen and figures out a way of extending that. if that is true, the $1.5 trillion is a low ball when it comes to the public debt that will be ended -- added under the plan if congress does not let those provisions expire. is that not true? that has been a history in this phase for quite some time. mr. barthold: as i said a couple of times, the decisions for the members of congress to make. rep. kind: we just turned ourselves into pretzels trying to turn ourselves

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steve: victoria toensing there represents this fbi informant.rtainly later this week the justice department is going to be on capitol hill telling the committees that are investigating this what they know about the informant and then i think you are going to seat informant come up to capitol hill in the next few weeks and start talking on his own about what he witnessed when he was under cover. steve: when it was first revealed that there was this guy who could tie bribery with the uranium one deal, we had heard that apparently he was only going to talk to like one person on each committee. but now it sounds like he is going to be talking to everybody. >> yeah. i think. so the original letter releasing him from his confidentiality agreement had a very narrow thing. i think all members of congress are going to get a chance to interview and talk to this man and learn a lot from him, i think. steve: you mentioned the confidentiality agreement. that was something that initially during the obama administration the department of justice said to him be

and, remember, chuck grassley, senator grassley, as well as victoria toensing, his attorney, really foughtagreement. had they not lifted that nondisclosure agreement, which was very specific, i mean, it was a criminal act if he spoke out publicly before they lifted it, if they had not lifted that, none of this information would be out there. pete: absolutely. what do we know about what we might learn as far as -- because the excuse so far amongst the obama administration is we didn't know or we weren't privy to this information. what might be revealed about how much was shared across government, about what the russians were trying to do while the decision was being made about allowing them to make this purchase? >> well, according to the documents that i have reviewed. not just the documents. there is recordings, there is video recordings, they were very well aware of what the russians were doing and how the russians were planning on doing it and, by the way, how they successfully did it in their bid to get approval for the sale of uranium one. so, i -- right now, the obama administration