tom cotten, met romney saying that the time for evidence is now. enough with oppressors, enough with a big big statements current a big gigantic claims . and allegations without the proof. so the time is now because the clock is ticking. guest: that's right. i presented cases to the grand jury of fraud. that included affidavits . and at some point, they just have to be substantial enough to show the full scope of the fame. and it has to be large in this case because you're talking 150,000 plus votes in michigan for example. so the attorney has alleged that they have the of evidence and they will presented. they are going to show the public, there may be strategic reasons for that by that they don't produce it, settling just an embarrassment. it is unfortunate for the whole country to have two endured it. elizabeth: yes. there's still not seeing in the court cases, the truth or any evidence of and refusing to allege grand fraud allegations in the court cases are intimate they're saying and oppressive friends and were going to say, and we want to mov