i'm totally honest and i say this as someone who washed tom daschle, who didn't even make it through the confirmation process because he did not report reputed income from a guy who lent him his driver. that was enough to knock him out. i watched the tom price hearings and i thought, this does not look great in terms of the judgment. whether he did something wrong or not, the judgment that is being exhibited by this individual. the other thing here, matt, is just the amount of in and out of that administration at this point. price, scaramucci, bannon, gorka, comey, flynn, priebus, spicer, shiller, dubke -- there's andressian unbelievable amount of turnover in eight months. >> no question. trump administration has been chaotic, particularly the first four or five months. i think the original mistake was seth up competing power centers inside the white house. that was not sustainable. i think now they are in a better place with a empowered, respected military, experienced chief of staff in general john kelly. that said, you have a homeland security position that's been open for some ti