joining us our cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and tom fuentes and former assistant director and communityivist joining us from ferguson. tom, what do you make of these mistakes? significant? not so significant? it sounds disturbing to me. >> the first thing about the officer washing his hands is true in the day of hiv, police, first responders, firefighters try diligently to avoid having anybody else's blood anywhere on their body, but in a situation like this that was unavoidable. the part about taking the gun home, that's true. that was not handled correctly and all of that chain of the custody and evidence should have been done immediately at the police station. i thought maybe it was, when you see pictures of him in his t-shirt in the hospital was because they had taken his uniformed shirt and taken his pants and placed it in evidence storage. as far as the scene of the camera dying, the battery dying and that's absurd. >> they kept that body there for four and a half hours on the streets of ferguson. we thought they were doing a really detailed forensic investigation. >> yeah. you wo

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that's what we were trained to do. >> let's bring in tom fuentes now. tom, i want to hear your perspective on this. do you think there really was a duty here to give chase? what are law enforcement officers trained to do in a situation like that? >> well, yes, i think he had a duty to give chase because at this point, we don't know -- the officer wouldn't know the extent of what occurred at the convenience store. but he would know that he has just been punched in the face, wrestled at his car, that his gun -- that they had a struggle over the weapon. there were shots fired in the car. and now brown takes off, the officer assumes his radio is still on the same channel to say, i have the suspects from the grocery store, i'm exiting the car now. so that first call would have gone out that he sees the suspects on the street. his second call he doesn't realize the radio station, the channel dial has been turned on his radio. he calls for back-up, says, shots fired. from my experience, as a street cop, when anyone radios "shots fired," you will have about 100

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let's get some more now with cnn's don lemon, john gaskin and tom fuentes, who is here with us.he grand jury decision could come down any day now. michael brown's parents heading to switzerland to present the report to a united nations committee against torture about their son's death. what might the parents say to the united nations? >> well, i think they are going to say what many have said already, is that this has become a human rights issue. they're probably going to talk about the increase in killings of young black men at the hands of law enforcement. they're going to put before them an issue that many are seeing not just a human rights issue, but a civil rights issue, and an issue that obviously needs some global attention as we've seen with the media coverage. so i believe that their message is going to be very firm about what their stance is on this issue, as well as shedding some light on what people within this community are dealing with. there's a good possibility that they may mention how the various police departments here have dealt with peaceful protesters and w

joining us is john gas kin, tom fuentes and jeffrey toobin.eact from the legal perspective what we just heard that dr. bodden, the pathologist, is it a gesture on the part of the county prosecutor to invite a pathologist privately hired by the family to go in there and testify before the grand jury? >> robert mccullough, the prosecuting attorney, said from the beginning he's going to present every piece of evidence in this case to the grand jury. michael bodden's autopsy is a piece of evidence. and he's a distinguished pathologist, so it seems very consistent with that promise. now, it's not a complete autopsy. michael bodden didn't have access to everything, as you heard. not to the clothing or the car evidence. so it's not complete. but certainly if you want all the evidence, michael bodden's autopsy would be something that's very appropriate to put before the grand jury. >> tom, how unusual is it for a privately hired pathologist to go before a grand jury? >> once the autopsy is done by the private pathologist, you would expect that, that i

we're joined now by coy and tom fuentes, former assistant director of the fbi and senior legal analyst coy, tell us what you've been learning jesse matthew has been prepared to do. i know you've been speaking sources close to his defense team. >> i got a call last night from somebody close to the defense team and got a sneak peek into the truly fascinating legal calculus that is going on as we speak. of course, tomorrow morning, 9:00 a.m., jesse matthew will appear for the first time in person in the circuit court in fairfax to face these three charges, abduction, rape, and attempted capital murder. we could hear a number of motions on both sides, but here is what everybody is waiting to find out tomorrow. judge dennis smith will name the particular judge in the circuit court there who will oversee the trial, and that is the absolutely critical ingredient, because that's going to decide if the defense is going to decide to go to trial or not. the last thing they want to do is go to trial. because the jury is likely to give jesse matthew, their client, life in prison. so they may decide

and cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director, tom fuentes. t do you think what he just said? >> i think what it sound like. there is going to be enough confusion that even if officer wilson is indicted and charged. a low threshold. the problem is going to be, that there is so much doubt now that to convict officer wilson of -- of whatever. and improperly killing michael brown to constrict him beyond a reasonable doubt. there is going to be a lot of reasonable doubt. reasonable differences. in how the forensic evidence is interpreted. there are contradictory eyewitness statements. we keep hearing there is unanimity. there isn't. i heard many accounts from eyewitnesses. what was going on at the time of the shootings. david clinger as you heard that? >> i basically concur. the notion of reasonable doubt is there. we have to wait for information. about blood evidence and the vehicle. that is very important. generally if some one ills just coming at a police officer, the police officer is not permitted to shoot. there has to be something about the

but i want to say everything tom fuentes said, tom is right. and hope for the best. if a situation happened in ferguson that got out of control, people would be blaming the governor or whoever was in charge that they weren't prepared in the moment. yes, i think the protesters get credit for the mostly peaceful protests, but we cannot forget what happened initially, and it did get out of control. so people do have to be prepared in case something happens. rightly so, there has been no announcement. and no one know what's going to happen when the announcement does come down. just because the national guard is activated does not mean the national guard will be standing there in front of people. they could be just at the outpost or what have you or the headquarters or the command post until they are activated to go out. >> i'm going to ask the alderman this question, this video of officer wilson, if we can show that. you see him leaving soon after the shooting, and it doesn't appear that there are really very visible injuries here. i just wonder, w

no. >> let me bring tom fuentes into this. enforcement officials tell cnn, they didn't want the st. louis county prosecutor to make that announcement last night at night because they were afraid there could be the kind of violence we saw. this was obviously a mistake, right? >> i think you can say now. i would question what time of day he would ever make the announcement that we wouldn't have had the same result. not only that, if we have violence tonight, that would have been 30 hours since the announcement. >> if they would have made it in the morning, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00 daylight, wouldn't that have made the police work easier as opposed to the middle of the night? >> maybe for a while. woinlt have stopped the people from couldn't back out after dark. and i think they would have had the same problem no mat where they announced. i think once it got dark, once the hooligan element got out there, this would have been the same thing, i think. >> listen to the prosecutor. robert mcculloch. he was pretty critical of the news media

tom fuentes in the 2005 case, does the prosecution need much evidence, if they have the dna as well asing witness who said she would come back from india to testify in this case? do they have enough there? >> well, we don't know yet. and i think another reason for pleading not guilty is as they go forward preparing for the defense, the prosecution has to give them everything they've got. then they'll know what kind of dna, how much of it, what the circumstances, was it really under the fingernails as it was said? they'll know everything the prosecution's going to present will have to be told to the defense. and then they can make their assessment of whether to try to bargain. >> and the criminal defense attorneys always want a delay. that is sort of criminal defense 101, slow the process down, let passions cool a little bit. the cases never get better with time. they often get worse. so, that's one thing the defense can do. >> sounds like it makes sense. coy, i wonder if i could ask you, because the judge, of course, will play a key role in this, what have you learned about the judge i

we have tom fuentes. good to have you. thank you for being with us. tom, something like this obviously isn't random, needs time and planning. what do we know about why this was done? >> it's the same thing the taliban has been doing now, especially stepping up their campaign in the recent week. they kald 60 people in a volleyball game about a week ago. i think there's been four bombings in kabul this week. they're taking their presence known that they're going to be in control or a major nuisance in that country forever. i think that's the message they're sending to us. whether we leave or don't leave, they're going to keep this up and we can't defeat them. >> peter, in terms of just assessment of why this happened, in terms of the preparation, you know, obviously coming off of the b benghazi situation, everybody is very sensitive. how do we know if they were ready for this or is if it was just circumstance? >> attacking a convoy where you have a heads up that's going down a road is ready simple. you just need one suicide bomber. we've seen attacks lik

. >> tom fuentes, thanks very much. we'll stay in touch with you. to ferguson right now, stephanie elam on the ground for us. stephanie, the indications are the grand jury will reach a decision as early as tomorrow but there won't be any announcement for 48 hours, right? >> right. that's what we're expecting. what we are expecting, wolf, is that law enforcement and schools in the area will get the head's up, at least 48 hours in advance to take measures to protect children, to protect neighborhoods, protect critical buildings, all of that being part of the plan is what we're understanding which means that if they do make a decision tomorrow, then we would likely hear about it no earlier than sunday. obviously what plays a part into this is how the weather is going to behave. it's supposed to be pouring rain on sunday. i've been here before when it's poured. the protesters do not care. they've been out in the rain no matter what the elements are. also, wolf, i can tell you the people i've spoken to, the demonstrators, telling me they do not believe t

we're joined now by cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes.nd he actually said that going after baghdady, killing him is a bad idea. i think what he's saying is the devil you do know is better than devil you don't meaning you don't know who will replace him. what do you say to that? >> there's truth in what bob says, christie. but also, you know, leadership matters. so if he's the charismatic leader of this organization and he's helping in the recruiting efforts, declaring himself the kalif of the newly established group, you know, taking him out would matter. but bob's correct. we would not know necessarily right away who is replacing him or the replacement background. one of the things about some of the leaders is they're very narcissistic and they want people to know who they are and what they have believe in and what they say and in that process you learn a great deal about them psychologically. >> you know sh it's been mentioned, of course, that we're send ago decisional troops there to iraq. so what come next? how do you see this progres

. >> delving into this further is tom fuentes.with moussaoui's claim that a saudi prince and princess helped finance 9/11 by help paying for the flight lessons that the hijackers took. what do you make of this? >> as mentioned, moussaoui has been widely questioned as to his mental stability and what he knew and didn't know and how he knew it however, there are hundreds of saudi princes, princesses, cousins, members of the royal family. so it's possible that members of the family did supply the money or provide funding for the 9/11 operation. but that doesn't mean the government itself knew about it or wanted it to happen. >> there's also a new claim that he makes, which is that air force one, there was a saudi plot to shoot down air force one and to assassinate bill and hillary clinton. is there any evidence of that? >> i don't know of any evidence of that. i'm not sure that that ever is true or not. >> so you know the 9/11 commission found that in 2004, they said they found no evidence of moussaoui's claims and they couldn't dete

let's bring in juliette kayyem, senior national security analyst and tom fuentes, former fbi assistantr and mel robbins, cnn commentator and legal commentator. we've been talking all morning, it seems like releasing the information at 9:00 p.m., at nightfall, as things were just getting ginned up there, that seems like a bad decision, what's your take on that? >> i have seen both sides of this. alisyn and i think chris cuomo hit it on the head, there would be less people about. businesses closed, schools closed, a lot lighter traffic in the area. and there would be fewer people to deal with. for the police. as posed to rush hour traffic at 9:00 in the morning or the middle of a business day. or shopping day. when stores are open. so you know there is two sides to that argument. >> there are two sides to the argument. you look at it right now, the images, these aren't black and white images from the '60s. juliette, kayyem, this is 2014. we had time, we had advanced warning, we had time to plan there were plans in place, could the scenes have been avoided? >> probably not. all the scenes

and we have former fbi assistant director tom fuentes with us and community activist john gaskin.ks after michael brown's parents testified to the u.n., you have the committee against torture calling the grand jury decision a tragedy. they said they had to respect the decision of authorities not to prosecute officer darren wilson. but how significant do you think it is the u.n. considered this shooting in their report in the first place? >> i think it's quite significant. it's significant that the u.n. is speaking up regarding this. it's significant that the u.n. would invite michael brown's family to come and allow them to share their story, along with several protest leaders here in st. louis. as we have seen, protests have been across the country. i think that speaks volumes regarding the injustice that we have seen. you know, brianna, many people are disappointed with that decision, that there was no indictment on any type of charges. people here at least, especially african-americans, lost what little confidence they had in the justice system when that announcement was made.

tom fuentes, thanks so much for talking about this, this morning, you don't want to forget about peter kassig if all this. he was a really special person. we will talk about that throughout the morning, too. >> he was. he represented everything that is different between someone who wants to do the right thing and people like those who took his life. that's probably why they wanted to hide as much as they could his true identity. in other news, mh-17 back in the headline, video surfacing of the actual crash in ukraine. it supposedly shows the moments after malaysian airlines flight 17 was brought down. today parks four months since that horror. too much remains in those you indianian fields. the bright spot is truckloads are finally being removed. the question of who is to blame hangs in the air there and at the g-20 summit, that's where russian president putin left early after getting a chilly interception in ukraine. phil black is following the latest developments from done donetsk. that's where it seems to be kicking up again. >> reporter: that's right. let start with the pictures of

mel robbins, our cnn commentator and legal analyst and tom fuentes, cnn law enforcement licht and formerjoin us. we're learning more about the evidence as we pore over these documents and a lot of things are jumping out at people right now. officer darren wilson bagged his own evidence. he put the gun in the back. officer darren wilson washed his hands of the blood, apparently before being examined. the interviews, the initial interviews with officer darren wilson were not recorded. the medical examiner who went to the scene didn't take pictures because he didn't have batteries in his camera. you were a cop for six years, tom, is this considered quality police work? >> no, john, it's not. think it's a tragedy that happened that way. quiet now is that you have to speculate whether it really affected the difference in, in the facts. did they doctor the weapon? that's why we have chain of custody issues for the police. for investigators in the case like this. that no one else could tamper with it. no one could late gere back to the gun and put blood on it or put something on it from a handk