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richard quest, david soucie, tom fuentes, stay with me, if you will.ct crash this plane on purpose, is he in fact a mass murderer and if that's the case, does this airline bear any responsibility? that's coming up next. [ female announcer ] when you're ready to take skincare to the next level you're ready for roc®. new roc® multi correxion has an exclusive 5 in 1 formula. it's clinically proven to hydrate dryness, illuminate dullness lift sagging diminish the look of dark spots and smooth the appearance of wrinkles. together these 5 elements create ageless looking skin. roc® multi correxion 5 in 1. it's high performance skincare™ only from roc®. >>> got some breaking news i want to bring to you. this just came into cnn from evan perez. a member of the army national guard along with his cousin have been arrested. get this, they are facing charges of providing material support to isis -- this coming into cnn via a government official. one man was apparently arrested to trying to yet again get on a flight to join isis ranks. apparently the second was plot

tom fuentes on the phone with us. it is amazing that the two officers are even alive as you heard from tom. have a listen to this. [ gunshots ] [ bleep ]. >> this happened around midnight. this video was shot across the street from the ferguson police station where those two officers had been standing guard. you just heard at least three shots and then chaos as frightened people reacted and tried to get to safety. i want to bring in a professor here, test a forensic scientist. the reason i wanted to talk to you about this was they were able to get shell casings and apparently the officer who was shot in the face has a slug lodged behind his ear. so clearly, they will be able to get that slug, the casing and what will those do for us forensically to try to track down the shooter? >> this is very important evidence. if you've got the bullets and you've got the shell casings, one thing you can say is they were fired from the same weapon. and if that's true, then we're probably looking for one shooter. secondly, by looking

. >> tom fuentes joins us. thankfully they stopped the suspect. his family we know is cooperating, but when we're talking about somebody who has mental illness, and this man did have mental illness, what is the best way to proceed? is there anything that you can glean before something like this happens? >> i think, christi, the family is well aware he was having problems. it's reported he is a jehovah's witness and refused any medical attention or medication. so when you have a situation like that, there's just about nothing anybody's going to be able to do. the family can't stop him and it's a law enforcement problem at some point somewhere with some individuals. not everybody becomes violent, but unfortunately the few that do, there's almost no alternative. >> when we talk about the fact that he had smoke bombs in their car. anybody in their right mind wouldn't go into an airport and use a machete and go back to that their car, that's not believable. should t should the take away be how it was handled? >> what was in his head we'll never know. e

cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes is joining us now. wanted to bring you back, tom, talk about the fact we have these new details. the smoke bomb, the molotov cocktails. smock bombs were in his car. what do you think is the takeaway here from the fact that, you know, he had some things on him. surely anybody in their right mind wouldn't think they are going to be able to go into an airport with a machete, attack, then go back to his car and possibly get more ammunition in some way. >> chris ti, just said the main phrase. anybody in their right mind. i think this is an example of someone not in his right mind. now he is dead there is no way to absolutely find out what he was thinking and even if he lived and said what he was thinking, you don't know if he was really thinking it at the time. so, you know, yes, he did have this array of, i guess, weaponry, explosives, the machete itself. thankfully he didn't have a fully automatic weapons or any other firearms that could have inflicted tremendous damage in there. nobody in their right mind

look at this than from a trained law enforcement perspective than former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and he's with newspaper reporter susan weekes. tom, so good to have your perspective from where you are. you're satanding with susan and you're at the top of that hill. correct me if i'm wrong, but you are looking down the hill towards the location where the shooting happened in front of the police department, correct? >> that's correct, ashleigh. at the top of the hill with susan weech who was out here when the shooting occurred that night. she took cover behind a brick wall down there. but we're at the other end of it where the police speculate the shooter was. from your perspective looking down this, what do you think of this distance for the speculation the shots were from this high up going down? >> when i heard the shots the first -- when i was on the phone with my editor, i heard the ts sho shots, i looked up the hill and i was sure this is where they came from. >> here from the top of the hill, it's not elevated enough to shoot over the top of the protesters. but, susan, you s

and tom fuentes joining us again to talk about this.nents of the story, how is it possible that investigators didn't discover these letters and the similarities and the handwriting. >> they started -- they had one of the letters. they had a letter that was actually sent from -- as durst himself says had to have been search by the killer himself. it was posted just before or around the time of the murder and says there's a cadaver in this building right? but then you come up with all these years later, the police turned over all of susan berman's personal possessions to her stepson, all these years later, in the midst of this documentary towards the end of their time speak to the stepson, he says oh, i just went into this box of her stuff, and there's this letter. you look at the. >>> her, the handwritten is astonishingly similar, and the next question you ask is -- why didn't the detective come across this before? i mean you knew from the crime scene it was probably someone who knew her -- >> it's pretty remarkable when you think about

tom fuentes has maybe more.investigators -- you've been involved when you were with the fbi at looking at plane incidents. do you think investigators are going to make anything of a fact line that? >> no. because in this particular situation. if this guy was only suicidal and only had depression he could have flown himself into the side of a mountain all by himself in a hang-glider or let loose. it's a very dangerous sport in the first place. he didn't have to take 149 men, women and babies with him. so we're talking about something that had severe anger problems. there were other things going on in his life. i'm sure we'll find out more about in the days ahead. and especially from the police. and i think the reason the prosecutors haven't said more is they're probably still waiting for more of his internet records to come in. they have a subpoena process similar to what we have in the states. waiting for phone records, waiting for more interviews of colleagues friends, neighbors. so they want to have a fuller p

let's bring in richard quest, peter goelz, tom fuentes, david soucie.rector of airlineratingings.com is joining us as well. the u.s. has a two-person rule in the cockpit when one pilot goes for example, wants to go to the bathroom a flight attendant goes in so there's not just one person there. is it possible to require that across the aviation -- the entire worldwide aviation industry? >> look absolutely. i think that the rest of the aviation community across the globe is going to follow the u.s. example on this and certainly this germanwings disaster has shaken the industry. and i think every authority across the world will be taking a good hard look at their procedures. because the public confidence has to be -- the public has to be assured that the pilots are flying the plane, there's two people there so something like this can't happen again. >> peter, explain how it's possible that this particular case a co-pilot can lock the pilot out of the cockpit. >> well inside the cockpit there's a three position button. in the up position the cockpit door i

that that would not have been fatal compared to a pistol shot which the officer did survive. >> tom fuentes us walking on the streets over there right near the police station with an excellent explanation of what happened. appreciate it very much, tom. >>> still to come new footage emerging of those three british schoolgirls who allegedly ran away to join isis in syria. we're also learning more about the man who supposedly helped them. details just ahead. janet? cough if you can hear me. don't even think about it. i took mucinex dm for my phlegmy cough. yeah...but what about mike? (cough!) it works on his cough too. mucinex dm relieves wet and dry coughs for 12 hours. let's end this. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment. two weeks later. look, credit karma--

i want to add to tom fuentes' point. the tsa got involved long before he ever got involved to flight training because he's got to be screened. i'm a flight instructor with small airplanes. if i'm going to fliekt instruct somebody outside the united states, i have to indicate that on the application. they're vetted to some degree. so that is important. but this whole thing is -- as an airline pilot, this hits me right in the gut. it's very disturbing to me. this is not something i would ever have conceived of from any of my fellow crew members. and one of my colleagues has destroyed the public trust and this is so important to really understand and comprehend and especially for the families. i just can't imagine. >> richard lufthansa officials, they say the pilot did nothing wrong when he went out of the cockpit. let's say he's going to the men's room or whatever that it was okay apparently to leave only the co-pilot in that cockpit. although i understand there are regulations at least here in the united states that one o

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the country really doesn't want to hear from him. >> what do you think, tom fuentes? s me is when shootings of teenagers and young black men get involved trayvon martin comes up. zimmerman does not deserve to be put in the category of trained police officers. he shouldn't have had a gun or running around in that community. >> i agree. >> he shouldn't have been in a position to encounter trayvon martin. he should not be included in the narrative of police shootings. >> does he happen to be in a position of authority, at least what he believes. >> he's not a trained police officers. >> you're absolutely right. what is he doing nowadays? >> he says he's trying to move on with his life and, as don says this is not the way to do it. this guy is applying for a job anytime soon this doesn't really help. >> it certainly doesn't. guys thanks very much. don will be back with a whole lot more on this story and all the day's important news at 10:00 p.m. eastern on his show "cnn tonight" at 10:00 later tonight. >>> just ahead, a revealing cnn interview with the republican senator a

tom fuentes, you're a former fbi assistant director. i've been impressed with how quickly they're developing this case right now. we're learning so much on a day-to-day -- sometimes hour-to-hour basis. >> they're able to say so much more publicly about it because they're not worried about protecting a defendants' right before a prosecution. he's not going to be prosecuted. they can be forthright about what they're finding. we'll see. the german investigation obtained the documents yesterday. french police have transported those documents to marseilles today. we'll see if that prosecutor speaks out today on what they found. >> i want to go to dusseldorf for the latest on what's going on over there. will ripley is outside the family home over there. will what are you learning about this situation? obviously a very sad situation, a very dramatic situation. it seems to be releasing new information on as i said, an hourly basis. unfortunately, i think we've not been able to connect with will ripley. but we will as soon as we reconnect that a

we also have tom fuentes, law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director. so what really is the latest here evan? >> well brianna, it's still a very strange case. we have two men, both wearing wigs apparently in this vehicle that tried to breach -- >> wigs meaning dressed as women? >> yes, dressed as women, correct. >> okay. >> women's wigs. and they tried to crash through one of the outer perimeter gates to the complex that houses the nsa headquarters at fort meade. it's clear exactly what their intention was. no motivation is known. the fbi right now says that they have no indications that this is terrorism related. we have pictures of one of the wigs down there found at the scene. one of the men was shot dead by an nsa police officer who responded to the incident. the second has been taken to the hospital and is being treated. now, when they're able to try to interview this person they try to figure out what exactly was happening. they found uggdrugs inside the car. that we see right there at the scene as well. it's again, not clear whether this was some

tom fuentes also joins us a former former assistant director for the fbi. and mary i'll begin with you. so often, we are so hopeful that the voice recorder the cockpit voice recorder will be recovered recovered. they have found it it has revealed a tremendous amount of information, first and foremost, that this was, indeed, deliberate. >> well and certainly the french vea, i've worked previous cases where they were the investigative agency and quite competent. and at the press conference yesterday when the investigator was asked from the vea about those last eight minutes, he seemed shaken clearly he'd heard something but he would not comment. i suspect that this is correct and what they have revealed to us will turn out to be the case because it's the prosecution. but at this point, this is a carolina criminal investigation. the vea will continue their work, the recovery will continue. it's vitally important to grab every piece of criminal evidence. when something like this would happen you send all your criminal agents out to start grabbing information, f

i wanted to go to our security analyst and fbi guy tom fuentes. he's on the phone. l anything from this scene at all, tom. >> carol, without seeing the big picture i can't tell how far away. there are several security perimeters around nsa headquarters. as you mentioned having been there, i've been there many many times also, the idea that somebody could drive any kind of a vehicle, i don't care if it's a bulldozer, through those security checkpoints [ inaudible ] >> oh our connection died with tom fuentes. we're going to try to get tom back he was just about to say something quite interesting. jim, we'll expound on that because you've been to the nsa building yourself and security is quite tight. they know when you come off the highway on that exit ramp to the nsa. in fact i used to drive to work to washington early the morning and my cell phone signal would always go out when i passed the nsa. it's very eerie, actually. >> i have noticed that as well sometimes and i don't know if it's imagined but i think it makes sense when i pass other intelligence facilities. li

joining us now of the "washington post" that broke this story and former fbi director tom fuentes and former secret agent, jonathan wakro. he is a 13-year veteran of the service, and he knows president obama and he knows the two agents who are involved and we are not naming them, but carol, what additional detal sils do you have on the sequence of events? have the agents finished their shift at the white house and then gone to this party? do we know? >> we don't know if they were on duty or not, but you would presume that people going to a retirement party at a bar in downtown washington were pretty much done for the night. my information from sources is that they were returning from this party fairly late, somewhere around 10:00, 10:30 at night. went back to get one of the government cars. i believe one of them, mr. ogilvy is driving out of the white house compound near 15th street according to the sources who have talked to us about this when he comes across the barrier, and where secret service officers and the metropolitan police department are canvassing and securing a scene beca

tom fuentes, our law enforcement analyst, former assistant director of the fbi, he's in ferguson. you were listening very closely to what the police chief had to say. what jumped out at you, tom? >> well i think just the fact that it reminded me when he talked about going to the home and taking the three people downtown for questioning, of the d.c. sniper case when shots were fired, people look up see a car speeding away and call that in as the subject vehicle, and in this case as in many cases, it's just people who heard the shots and are fleeing for their own safety. so i think that he explained that very well but that's why the tactical operation took place at that house. >> tell our viewers where you are standing right now, because the assumption is the shooter or shooters the police chief did use the phrase shooters the word shooters meaning plural were about 125 yards or so more than a football field from the police headquarters where those two police officers were shot and seriously injured. >> based on the limited information we have as far as pinpointing where the shooters

joining us richard quest, peter goelz, tom fuentes and david soucie. recorder and it's usable but they don't have this the flight data recorder how difficult will it be to figure out what happened? >> they will get a picture but it won't be a complete one. it will be challenging to put together the entire accident sequence because the data recorder is really the key document produces the key information. it monitors thousand it was parameters. they've got to find it. >> richard, is it possible that the inside of that flight data recorder -- we heard the president say the shell, whatever that means, was found but the recorder itself the material inside has not been found. is it possible it could be completely destroyed? >> it's possible. but it's perhaps unlikely. the bea person we heard from earlier was very confident that not only would it be found but that the nature of its construction -- it's built to withstand exactly the sort of pressure and forces that this went through. a plane crashing 500 miles an hour into a mountain. this is exactly what it

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. >> cnn law enforcement analysts and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes joining us to talk about this. tom, do you suspect that these two are the only two suspects or that it could be much bigger than these two? >> i think it would have to be bigger christi. i mean if it's just these two, who paid them who wanted them to do this is there a bigger movement behind them? you know we have all those questions coming up. but again, you know, there are so many suspects nemtsov had many enemies, yes, putin was one, people in the kremlin, people on the strongly on the kremlin side or others rivals within the democracy movement so there are many possibilities here of who could have had a motive to have him killed. >> it's said they -- i was wondering how they deduced it to these two. they found the getaway car, forensic evidence but they found this in north d in the north caucasus in a region? southern russia that borders georgia. do you believe that's plausible? i mean geographically they're quite a distance. how would they have tracked them all the way there, let's say? >> well, it's pla

let's talk about this and more with cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuenteson the ground if ferguson. hi tom. >> good morning, carol. >> i talked to a reverend earlier this morning who said there's a different feeling in ferguson between protesters and police. did you notice that last night? >> well actually i wasn't here last night. by the time i got here it was already, you know pretty much over so i wasn't able to tell how that worked out. >> sorry to ask you that question then but it is good to hear that there -- she said there was a better spirit of cooperation between the two groups. she says it's not a turning point though but in your estimation just hearing that it's positive right? >> well it's definitely positive, and see specialespecially for the people in the crowd and the protesters when the shots rang out and the two officers went down that you know what police officers do every day is serious business and, you know it is the only profession in the country that when you get dressed to go to work in the morning, the afternoon, the night, it's the

tom fuentes is joining us now.ou look at the story and you know anyone with a right mind wouldn't go into an airport with a machete and think he is going to come out and get more ammunition that he had left in his car. what is the takeaway from this whole thing for you? >> i think the takeaway is just how severe his mental illness was, and, you know, we have these checkpoints in airports for a reason and in a way, they worked. even though the tsa guards are not armed, there are armed police officers right at the end of all of these checkpoints who can respond. we had this in the los angeles airport a couple of years ago where a l.a. police officer shot the person trying to -- that had already shot tsa guards and run through the checkpoint. now have this guy run through the checkpoint with a machete. but, again, a uniformed police officer saves the day and stops him from getting any further or from actually using the machete against the one female tsa guard that he was chasing. >> do you think that people who are no

let's bring in cnn military analyst mark hertling and former fbi assistance director, tom fuentes. do you think isis is going to respond to boko haram's pledge? we will start with you, general. >> well, joe, it's going to be an interesting dynamic, but i wouldn't lend the intelligence community so far has not lent a whole lot of credence to this announcement by boko haram. they are in the scourge of west africa and entered into parts of chad but they were not accepted by al qaeda. this is an organization that has been despicable in some of its deeds and connects to isis but doesn't seem to have the same legitimacy as a worldwide organization as isis has right now. this is an opportunity for them to gain legitimacy for isis to gain legitimacy as well in terms of a growing organization, but i don't think the announcement is equal to command and control or connection. >> tom, what do you think about this? is this more of an operational alliance or is it primarily for propaganda purposes? >> i agree with the general, it's completely propaganda. it's not a true alliance because i don't

. >>> let's go ahead and bring in former fbi assistant director tom fuentes.hese new reports about lubitz apparent psychosomatic illness, what are your thoughts about security? do they change at all? that kind of -- that kind of illness can sometimes be hard to see. >> that's exactly right, alison. you know, you have to worry about the fact that you can't detect it until, oftentimes, it's too late, as in this case and especially if the person is trying to hide it from the public and from the boss. so, you know, it's a very difficult thing and i think the other concern that i think many pilots have at this point and many passengers is that even with stepped-up testing, it may not be completely reliable. you could be taking somebody from their career that really is fine, you know, that has a false positive in their testing and there could be others that you miss that still get behind, you know, the controls of an aircraft that shouldn't be. i think it's just -- it's not scientific enough to be able to tell with 100% certainty who can fly a plane and who shouldn'

. >>> now let's bring in tom fuentes, the former fbi assistant director and cnn's law enforcement analystom, oftentimes in a situation like this where you have a police-involved shooting, it's politically explosive to bring up the criminal history of the individual who was shot but from an investigative standpoint, is it relevant? >> joe, i think it will be relevant in the long are run if you're trying to establish what the tendencies were of an individual as the individual capable of violence and we understand that grieving parents don't believe that that is possible, that their son is not violent and, you know, so we expect that. but the investigation will be conducted by the state of wisconsin, not by the city of madison. and, you know, we just have to wait and find out more of the facts. additionally, the officer was taken to the hospital also friday night and blood was drawn. so there will be a toxicology report on the officer to see whether he had alcohol or drugs in his system. the same thing will be done through the autopsy of the victim. so, you know, that will lend a little more

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i want to bring in cnn's law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. were able to interview the neighbor next door. she was able to give us some details. can you enlighten us? >> reporter: she described the wal walls that are paper thin. he's able to hear everything that's happening. it's important to know that in this particular case, i know you've covered all of the high-profile cases, is that we don't have a swarm of witnesses coming forward, viral videos. and that's because this happened inside the house. it's important to note that. so this woman who listened to everything, all of the details unfold, she's very, very important. she's already talked to the department of justice. take a listen to what she heard. >> i heard the pounding on the door. >> reporter: was that the police? >> yeah. and he forced the door open and went upstairs. i don't know what happened. i heard just the, you know, scuffling, i don't know. >> reporter: like a commotion. it was loud. >> yes. it was going on. and then -- there was a running down the stairs, i heard the sots.

we are joined by david soucie and tom fuentes former fbi assistant director and richard quest our cnn analyst for aviation accidents. and tom, in flight 9525 there was a smooth conversation between the piet lots in the early part of the flight from barcelona and dusseldorf and then the audio said that one of the pilots left a ndnd he could not re-enter. at first he was knocking polite ly and then hits the door harder and then you can hear him striking the door harder and trying to smash the door down. and he is never able to get in. >> well don, the security measures are working too well to keep the bad guys out and the good guys in. and that is always a question of the fortified cockpit door if you have air marshals on board or the passengers themselves or another member of the crew if something bad was happening in the cockpit, they couldn't get in to do anything about it. >> and the security measures and the airbus doors engineered differently in germany than america? >> well what i would like to have is one of the reporters there to go to the germanwings' airplane and ask to look

tom fuentes, the former assistant fbi director was pointing out momentsing that it's very difficult, almost impossible to get anywhere near the actual buildings inside. >> and there are a lot of warnings coming off of any public roads anyone can make a mistake but there are a lot of warnings heading into this facility. you can see a checkpoint right there. we'll follow this closely. evan reporting two men, from his sources, two men tried to ram the main gate to enter the nsa headquarters at fort meade. their intentions so far unclear. >>> new revelations from the germanwings flight that the co-pilot was suicidal in the years before he got his license to fly. >> information from the 24-year-old coming a short time ago from the german prosecutor's office. they draw a distinction, though, on if lubitz was believed to be suicidal at the time of last week's crash. listen here to a little bit more. >> these documents don't show any hint of being suicidal or being aggressive against other people. >> various reports say evidence shows lubitz had been taking anti-psychotic injections, antidep

and i want to bring in now, tom fuentes, the former fbi assistant director. tom, you know derrick just using the word there, which i had mentioned, the word "lynching." that's the word that comes to mind when you first hear about an african-american man hanging from a tree by bedsheets. we do not know in this case if this was a racial hate crime, if this was a lynching if this was suicide, we don't know. but given the basic facts that we have right now, what goes through your mind? >> well what goes through my mind is that the almost a century of more of lynchings that have gone on that were considered by the fbi to be domestic terrorism. so if he was hung for those reasons, white supremacist group or somebody wanting to retaliate because of his involvement in killing a white woman or some other reason that's racially motivated like that and designed to send a message to other blacks that would be considered an act of domestic terrorism. and that's why the fbi is so heavily involved already, right from the beginning, because you don't want to let time elapse a

also joined by our law enforcement analyst here at cnn and also former fbi assistant direct tom fuentes weighing in from washington. richard, i need you to weigh in on the two-man cockpit lish. seven different airlines -- >> this has just happened. >> let me list the first seven. these are the airlines that have essentially jumped on this two-person cockpit bandwagon, lufthansa, easyjet, air berlin, emirates airlines, air canada, we westjet and norwegian. >> another recommends to all countries in the union that they immediately implemented two-crew rule, including one qualified -- the agency publishes a recommendation to ensure at least two crew, including one qualified pilot, in the compartment at all times of flight. >> that's a terrific recommendation. >> they'll do it. this is more, you do it or else. >> okay. >> this day will go down in history of aviation. this is the biggest day we've had since the wright brothers, maybe. but this is a big deal. because for 17 years with the faa, me and a bunch of other professionals, nick sabbatini, other people in the faa have been trying to te

i will get tom fuentes's input in just a minute. vinnie tell us a little bit more about sort of what you heard and what people were saying. i know you spoke to someone at the hotel where the first shooting took place. what did they tell you? >> well she just said that a couple people got shot over there. what she told me was two, and she was just leaving the hotel and she was on foot when i was at the corner. she just said that they got maybe one of the employees or something, and someone just went on a rampage. you know that's just what i know. that's what i seen. actually over here it looks like it's dying down. people are starting to leave, maybe because they caught the guy. you know more than i do. that's just what's going on here. a lot of activity lot of detectives lot of stuff like that, you know in the area. a lot of the streets were closed down. >> yeah certainly. it seems that they still remain that way as they are putting a suspect in custody. vinnie thanks so much for telling us what you saw. i want to go now to the vice

tom fuentes, evan perez, thank you for that. we'll watch this live picture from maryland. we'll bring it to you just as soon as that begins. >>> in the meantime, another very big story that we're following, official public confirmation that germanwings co-pilot andreas lubitz had at one time been treated for suicidal tendencies. in a statement you may have seen live here on cnn, the dusseld f dusseldorf, long before this, before ditching his airbus into the southern french alps, murdering all 150 people on board that aircraft. the prosecutor says there is no recent evidence of psychosis, nor of physical illness concerning lubitz's eyesight or anything else for that matter. >> we don't have any documentation that says that regarding his sight, any problems that he might have had or might have assumed to have. there isn't any documentation that says that this is caused by an organic illness. >> over the weekend the german newspaper "bild" was publishing a virtually unprecedented leak, the transcripts of flight 9525's cockpit voice recordings. it covers ten or more minutes of

not the correct -- because exactly what would happen miles, is what tom fuentes has criticized the ceo out information that hasn't been verified which then has to be corrected and that's what happens if you rush it out before it has had a chance to be verified. >> all right. hold on a minute. i want michael to button this up for us. michael, go ahead. weigh in on this debate. >> well i agree with richard on this. i think that we have no knowledge that any of these likes are in fact going to be validated. we don't know -- the investigators -- it's always a series of things. we know the pilot, what he did from the tape. we haven't found the flight data recorder. this is hampering the investigation and there's no reason to believe that there won't be other views on this and then each day we'll respond. >> these reports are amazing, going back over these last several days i've covered a lot of these plane crashes. i don't think i've ever seen information come out as quickly like this over the past week. guys stand by. we'll have much more on the breaking news. the crash of flight 9525 new

i want to bring tom fuentes into this.ice at that news conference earlier in the day, they assumed the shooter was using a hand gun from 125 yards, that's what they said that's more than a football field, to do that and hit two police officers one in the shoulder one in the cheek, from 125 yards with a hand gun, you've got to be an excellent marksman to even think about doing that, right? >> that's true. as a former firearm instructor and s.w.a.t. team member that is an amazing shot if that's what they were aiming at. we have four shots fired hitting two officers standing next to each other. it looks like that that's the intention was to shoot those officers or just the police line in general. that's incredible marksmanship. >> some people have been saying it's almost impossible for one individual with a hand gun to do that to be so precise, it must have been a rifle with some sort of sophisticated capability. >> if it was a rifle, the officer that was shot in the face would be dead. the speed of a rifle, a rifle bullet tr

. >> let me get tom fuentes to weigh in on this. you became an fbi agent.se suggestions of police brutality, that maybe a white kid at this university would have been treated differently than a black kid. what goes through your mind when you hear that? >> you would like to believe that's not true when you hear something like that. you know, again, it does happen so frequently that you don't know for sure what happened in this case. the problem here is that they go from checking his i.d. and asking him a zip code to the next minute he's on the floor -- on the sidewalk bleeding from the head profusely. what happened in between? we don't know. i think what surprises me this many days into it is are there no witnesses to this? did nobody see the altercation that started with the police and the argument with the police and him? >> there are. >> i haven't heard -- >> let me get don lemon. >> there are witnesses. there are people -- some people don't want to come forward because they don't want to inflame the situation. there are people out there who say that mart

tom fuentes is cnn's law enforcement analyst.ding to timecodes, the girls may have waited in the bus station for 18 hours, so with this worldwide alert that these three girls had left great britain, what kind of information would have been provided in order to know who to be on the lookout for? >> that's a good question fredricka. you don't know what the british sent to the turkish authorities and how well they disseminated it to bus stations and train stations and all the other place that is one would use to get transport into syria. so we just don't know what details they provided or failed to provide. >> it's presumed at this point -- it's been so long now, they are likely in syria. there is no tracking them down but what if anything can -- whether it be scotland yard other even u.s. authorities learn from how these young ladies have traversed, their entry points? what can they learn to either prevent or try to catch up with the next batch of young girls that are lured into isis and go by way of, say, turkey? >> i think the pr

also joining us are tom fuentes and sunny hostin.k it's possible they drop the charges given all the commotion right now, what was a relatively minor infraction if there was any at all? why not simply drop the charges? >> i think that makes a lot of sense. i wonder if that will happen on thursday. i'm sure the prosecutors are looking at this. i think what's interesting is that these officers claim that they stopped him for having a fake i.d. if you look at the charges, he wasn't charged with having a fake i.d. that's the first thing. the other thing that prosecutors will look at is the fact that these are very -- what he was charged with, which i think is public -- swearing and intoxication in public the vice president of uva says that the breathalyzer test showed he wasn't intoxicated. finally, i think the prosecutors are certainly going to have to look at the fact that these are low-level misdemeanors if anything. under the virginia criminal code they don't require arrest. so when you sort of look at that and you look at these pict

that's a good point. >> we want to bring in tom fuentes joining our panel, as well.as been told to the prosecutors told the media. but also interesting, tom, that he has told the families and what's an interesting point there, the families of the pilot and co-pilot are being kept separate from the families of the victims and an important thing to see happen right now. >> sure. for their own safety mikaela. they have somebody to blame specifically. it's not, you know an act of god or a mechanical thing that couldn't have been foreseen. if this was deliberately done we're talking mass murder. on the point of calm and calmly breathing the person in the cockpit was. we've often seen in a case. once a person decides to end it all, however they decide to do it there's often times a serenity and a peacefulness that comes over them that they're totally relaxed, totally calm and two about their business of engineering the death. >> that is a shocking thing to consider. >> so wait, let's fit that in, tom. >> the prosecutor is speaking with a lot of confidence here. you know in

joining me is tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. spoke to a senior fbi official and they say they have discovered no links to terrorism. he's under observation for mental health issues and there are no charges to be filed. the fact that he's mentally ill, they will most likely not use the justice system and will get him the treatment he needs. >> you can hear him screaming, please stop please stop. he sounds almost like he's becoming almost apologetic. >> it sounded like that yeah. that once he was tackled and on the floor of the plane and they had subdued him, that he was apologizing and acting a little bit hysterical. he doesn't sound like a person that is very sane. >> and a sane person would know that that cockpit door that's secure that's locked. after 9/11 pilots all commercial pilots they don't fly with that door open. >> that's true. the same person would know not to shout "jihad" because there could be an air marshall on that plane that is going to shoot you dead. you don't actually do that unless you're committing jihad. >

our senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin antonio french and law enforcement analyst tom fuentes.rces. what are they telling you about this justice department report? >> wolf we expect this report will be made public tomorrow. the justice department met with officials from ferguson this afternoon to tell them what they are about to publish and really this portrays a department that has deep deep problems. i'll give you a few statistics from the report that is going to be revealed tomorrow. 85% of the vehicle stops from 2012 to 2014 the justice department took a look at their books. 85% were of african-americans. 93% of arrests were of african-americans. 90% of citations were of african-americans. again, going back to michael brown and the incident there, the killing of michael brown by a police officer, 88% of use of force the ferguson department use of force was against african-americans. you can see that what people were protesting there was something that there was a problem with the police department. >> the city itself ferguson about 67% african-american. the police force was

let's bring in richard quest, tom fuentes miles o'brien, ruth winters-green and michael goldfarb.arer picture of lubitz's background his health issues. he received is therapy for suicidal tendencies years earlier before he became a commercial pilot. here is the question. why was he allowed to fly this plane if in fact he had suicidal tendencies and major mental issues years earlier? >> and that is an excellent question to which nobody has yet come up with an answer. wolf i think we know that when the final report comes out, this is going to be a classic case of the facts falling between all the stalls to create tragic results. i'm giving you an unsatisfactory answer. but that's how these cases happen. somebody gets through the system which can never be foolproof. everybody says who knew? of course the man put -- dropped out of air training because allegedly of depression. he had a depressive incident and suicidal thoughts during that period. within two years, he is flying -- two or three years he is flying for a mainline airline in europe. of course something has gone dramatically

nick we will get back to you as well. >>> i want to bring in peter goelz, david soucie tom fuentes andecorder. >> the massive intensity of this accident might lead that they will not find it if it came apart. it's not 100% invulnerable to the destructive forces of an accident of this magnitude. they do a good job. they survive tremendous pressures. but, boy, it would not surprise me if they did not get it all back. >> usually, they're in the tail the back of the plane. this plane smashed head on into the mountain. >> that's right. they're located in the tail. with the understanding that if the plane is crashing head first, that the energy will be somewhat dissipated by the time it reached the tail and that the boxes would be given a greater chance -- >> based on all the information they have released so far, how important is the information on the flight data recorder? >> i think it's important, wolf. but it's not critical like in many of the cases that we investigate. i think in this situation, they have a very good idea of what happened and how that plane ended up being flown into th

tom fuentes, you are a former fbi assistant director.n what was done in neighboring jennings missouri dissolve the police force there? >> i think that people that ask for that should be careful what they ask for. that means there will be no more local control over policing of that town. if it goes to st. louis county they will have to contact the chief of st. louis county sheriff's office to determine what kind of policing. the efforts are going to be very difficult. what i would hope is that the community and the police department work together and the unfortunate thing is that this mayor was elected in 2011 with 11.7% of the eligible voters of ferguson coming out to vote. what i would hope is that the people work to take control of their own city, to get the people in there who will represent them and be what they want in terms of a government in terms of a police department. giving the police department away to the sheriff's office i don't think is the right answer. >> we're going to take a quick break. stand by for the start of the n