i love tom massie. thomas massie and i are friends. he's a principled man.i knew he was going to be knowing this, but he is a very consistent person and i like that. >> yeah, that consistent on this front is definitely something that tom massie is. democrats believe that what this cr does, and we just heard from a democrat earlier in the show, brad schneider, saying this is they believe that. why why they're voting against it. they say is that this cr would allow the white house to accelerate to go even further in dismantling agencies and programs that you have funded, which congress, which is congress's job giving elon musk and donald trump more the ability to go further and faster with slashing the government. is that what this does? >> it is not that at all. i know, you know, i kind of feel for the democrats because really they have no leader, they have no message, and they have no vision right now. and they're flailing like a drowning victim out in the deep ocean. and i think the cr is a lifeline for the american people if they don't want to grab hold of

another quote from tom massie.it passes this week, the cr obligates trump from now until september to spend the same amounts of money on generally the same things biden spent money on in his last 15 months in office. is that the kind of fact that could blow things up for the speaker? >> well. >> that's a true statement from tom massie. and yes, he is a ha no. by the way, having served on the appropriations committee, we used to have a word for a year long continuing resolution failure. that means congress is not doing its job. i mean, a year long continuing resolution in many respects does does kneecap the administration, particularly the pentagon. they're not going to be able to move money where they need it. that's why we have an appropriations process. and as jake has pointed out correctly, you know, i'm kind of skeptical that they have the votes to pass this thing. they will need 6 or 7 votes, seven democratic votes in the senate. they have 53. they'll need 60 votes for an appropriations bill. they don't i don'

and he does have the outside tom massie, who i'm not sure what he's doing.ost people are listening to trump and the republican party. >> lawrence: i just think the democrats they have forgotten that they lost the last election. they speak in these absolute terms as if they won. and it's like the american people want this. i mean it was just two months ago where you guys lost and you said the same thing. >> ainsley: all the profanity just screaming against trump. what do you stand for? they haven't changed. >> lawrence: zero. >> ainsley: everything is just anti-trump. the rest of the country ready to move forward and they liked what trump was saying about the border. about trying to draw down inflation. would and we saw what joe biden brought to the table. they supported him. then we learned over the weekend that he is using auto pen. joe biden was using auto pen to sign his name. he was using an auto pen. >> brian: someone was using it. >> ainsley: who was in charge of our government. >> brian: for four years. i love what senator kennedy said to me over the

will he campaign against tom massie he invited a primary challenge to?l tell. >> we'll see. >> read the truth and draw your own conclusions. >> all right, james and james, thank you very much, guys. >> thank you, sir. ♪♪ (applause) ♪♪ now joining jake sherman, house appropriations, mario, and deb debby wasserman schultz. >> this is a timely conversation for a bunch of reasons because the wall street journal had a story about the ascendence of florida in washington. with two floridians, a big deal and the cr on the floor. let me introduce two of our panelists, two of the senior appropriators, when the process is in full swing. mario has been in congress since 2003, a district that ventures from miami all the way to naples, i was surprised to see, i didn't realize that. he has a legendary family in florida and brother lincoln, who recently passed away -- our condolences to you -- was in congress. and i'd go on with his brother. and state and foreign operations. >> which we changed the name. >> to what? >> nsrp. national security state and related programs.

trump emphasized how much he wants it by going after tom massie, who right now is the lone definitive no vote from the republican party, which means that johnson can't afford to lose another vote. that's sending a message to that group of four wayward republicans to not stray far from the flock here when it comes to that vote. so i'd be very surprised if they lose any votes in that regard. and republicans do seem very confident that they will ultimately come around, although all four have yet to say definitively how they plan to vote. as for the democrats, they're keeping their powder dry on this, katie. they won't say whether or not they have all of their members on board, but right now they're striking a chord of unity, which means, at the very least, they're going to force republicans to pass this with only republican votes. >> kimberly, it's going to go to the senate. they're going to need democrats in the senate. and the calculation changes up there in the upper chamber. what should democrats do, in your opinion? >> well, it's clear what they're trying to do now. they could follo