host: jonathan allen you hinted ith tom perez, what is his message to appeal to voter? uest: i think first of all tom perez has been focused on fundraising and not doing particularly good job of that. it has been difficult for the d.n.c. the party is out of power. packs, lives of super he mccain feinstein, and understand the role of the party is different than it used to be. this is not an organization that to pick candidates and that often back fires. we've seen that on the in the an side some past, the republican national ommittee is doing better in terms of fundraising and coordination, the d.n.c. base.ular with its own half of the democratic party, roughly half the democratic felt like the d.n.c. was unfairly tipping the scales in the last presidential election, to get hillary clinton nominated, trying to hurt bernie start with that bad blood there has been a clash between the two sides that ary sum. hostility had been put aside in donald sumed the minute trump was elected, huge battle for the democratic party between the clinton-type folks and the sanders folks and

i'll ask the dnc chair tom perez that question. while everybody is obsessing over north korea, iran and stormy daniels, the president's long-term legacy is already being cemented on something else. as he names young conservative judges in courts around the country at a record pace. >>> plus, a black graduate student at yale falls asleep on a dorm couch and the next thing she knows, the police are questioning her. why are white americans so quick to call the cops on their black neighbors? >>> when my car hit yet another pothole and had to go to the shop this week, i had to wonder, where is that trillion-dollar infrastructure bill we were promised? to get our roads fixed, are we all going to have to emulate the british activist calling himself wanksy? i'll explain. >>> first, president trump's chief of staff john kelly gave a rare interview this week which aired yesterday on npr. unlike his predecessors, the former general is rarely seen on the sunday morning roundtable circuit. when he speaks, his words receive particular scrutiny.

of justice was aimed, i believe to the detriment of law enforcement, joe arpaio being pardoned, tom perez, a doggedly went after you're arpaio for criminal violations of a court of ordered, imposed, set of rules, the maricopa county sheriff office that that do with antidiscrimination and car stops of hispanics, and president trump pardons arpaio as tom perez, now one of the lawyer history, the leader of the democratic national committee, this is the hard nature of these politicalized organizations. i can't see n any benefit to weaponnized, o'lit sized -- politicized, partisan, cia, irs, doj, name then all, the fall bet industries, i think this president trump's dealing with frustrations are air parents when he says let's tear down the fbi building and start all over again. >> host: a couple of questions and don't have a lot of time left. to kill the deep state you said donald trump must defeat robert mueller's plan to remover him -- remove him from office. >> guest: mueller is out of gas and is now fishing and putting it to an end, the clearest eest -- i recommend filled the hired been wr

and sort of an intense scene in their with bill clinton talking to tom perez and giving instructionst he wants to do with the dnc. which has not entirely worked out. >> just a revisit force in history. if there were the concerns within the campaign about how it was going, what was the response of hillary clinton team? >> i think they took it for granted at the time. essentially they thought they were winning. even on the days where, the not so good days. i think they still thought they were winning. but i think particularly going into the final stretch of the campaign. in the final days of november, there was great optimism there that she would be elected president of the united states. >> and so, within the team there self, with a -- where there are those that said let's have a strategy for that? and if so how is that received? >> i don't think there was ever a time for the end of the campaign in particular where they thought they needed to adjust the message. i think at one point in time they felt like they wanted to end on a positive note and they tweaked it a little to hit donald

where people like keith ellison and tom perez, the head of the dnc want to use that as a message for the november campaign. i get the sense pelosi wants to focus on their message with regard to their policy. how is that going to end up? >> she is the leader so obviously they will have a lot to do with what the members say. the animal comment she made that is misleading. she could have -- he could have called it anything he wanted. but she steps on it sometimes. her district as i said earlier today. she has an 80-% plus district. she is safe in her san francisco district. so to a certain extent she gets distorted when she goes back home and talks to the money people. if democrats want to be viable they will have to go out and talk about taking back the country. david: you have a lame duck leader in the house, paul ryan. he's going away so he's not capable of doing that much in the months he has left. could paul ryan be hurting the gop? could he be holding them back? >> i don't think paul is strong enough. when you don't want to be speaker any more, he should have stepped aside and lef

tom perez went after failed for criminal violations and posed the senate rules at the maricopa officet had to do with antidiscrimination and now as the lawyer leader of the democratic national committee this is the hard nature of these organizations. i can't see any benefit to weaponize, politicized partisan doj, fbi, name them all in the alphabet industry. i think president trumps frustrations are a parent when he says let's peer down the building and start over again. >> host: you must defeat the plan to remove it from office one way or another. the clearest way is to get under the criminal investigation that investigates uranium and targets of the subpoena and gets them to produce all documents from the uranium bribery investigation i believe that he re-signed. >> host: is there anything trump should have done differently in terms of the site acting more quickly in your terms to get rid of him perhaps there's nothing like that. is he responsible for making things so hard on himself? >> guest: there's nothing he can't do that these operatives or media matters motivated group funded

sheriff's office that had to do with anti-discriminations of car stops and they pardoned him as tom perez a lawyer, the leader of the democratic national committee this is the heart nature of these politicized organizations. i can't see any benefit to weaponize, politicized, partisan the cia an, fbi, name them all n the alphabet industries. i think the frustrations in dealing with this are apparently what's. on the fbi building and start all over again. >> guest: >> host: a couple things i want to get her to tell the deepest a.q. said he must defeat the plan to remove him from office one way or another. do you want to elaborate on that one? >> guest: i think it's clear this investigation as i said has come to an end. robert mueller is out of gas. he is now fishing. and putting it to an end in the clearest way and i recommend this and articles i've been writing and in the book is to get robert mueller and her criminal investigationundercrimt an honest grand jury that investigated targets and subpoenas robert mueller to produce documents from the investigation and at that point in the inves

every time tom perez opens his mouth, 100 democrats leave the party and become independent.ight be right. she might be the only effective person in the party right now that's left in tatters after obama and hillary. the reason why they are doing so poorly with trump as no one has a plan for immigration to counter any of what he has done with north korea or isis. how can they prove they can do better in any of these arenas without a plan? there only plan is to go after the guy. the only plan they have is to wish karl marx a happy birthday. >> kimberly: dana, it's pretty interesting. plenty of democrats feel bullish about the midterm elections, they might have a good chance. she is saying listen, we are going to live without vote. >> dana: where she gave this talk i think is important. it would have been just a local story but now because everything is national, it becomes a national story. she was in congressman seth moulton's backyard. he is one of the guys who wants to challenge her. he is in his local media -- she is in his local media. just like yesterday in the west virg

the question is that enough of a plan to prevail in joining me the chair of the dnc, tom perez.e labor secretary. you cam on my sirius xm radio program to announce the new unemployment figures. i have to mention you would have loved an unemployment figure as a labor secretary. >> when barack obama made those courageous investments in future. i'm glad to see they continue to pay off by there's so much more unfinished business here. the reason that i saw your polls and polls ebb and flow but wasn't ebbed and flow was democratic inthenthusiasm. we flipped over 40 seats in various races and we're winning because we're fielding great candidates. we're organizing every year and we're focusing on the issues that people care about. wages continue to remain flat. we're focused on health care because it's a right for all and not a impressiprivilege for a f. we're focused on making sure that people have access to quality education whether it's in oklahoma and west virginia, ad az and we're winning because we've been able to show that the democrats are fighting for public education in our f

and it's tom perez's mistake to make, i guess. >> well, you know, you're absolutely right.is is what every republican wants to run against. they want to have something to fix that, you know, run against hillary clinton, run against nancy pelosi. so that helps them frame their message. you know, because one of the big questions of course in this campaign is going to be will voters be voting for or against, you know, the republican governor, the republican senator, or is this all going to be a referendum on donald trump? well, a lot of republicans would rather have it be a referendum on nancy pelosi. >> of the two parties, charlie, when the call goes out, we need everybody back at the clubhouse. we need all hands, would you say the republican party is better at that, letting bygones be bygones? have they become really able to overlook a lot more than the democrats? >> yes. well, obviously they have. but on the other hand, they have a real significant problem this year because they have been, particularly in the congressional polls that i've heard about, are hemorrhaging suppo

tom? >> alex perez for us. alex, thank you. >>> next, to the resignation at a popular university. thespre enidsc uof down over a sex assault scandal involving a gynecologist. abc's will carr picks up the story in los angeles. >> reporter: tightthe southern california out amid a sex abuse scandal rocking the campus. >> the whole exam felt really wrong, but -- i kept saying to myself, "he's a doctor, he's a doctor at usc. usc wouldn't hire a doctor that would do anything wrong." >> reporter: more than a dozen women, including lucy chi, now suing the university and the school's former gynecologist, dr. george tyndall, alleging he sexually harassed and assaulted female students for decades. d he stood there watching while i did so. reportedly, usc was aware of dr. tyndall's inappropriate conduct before i was even born. >> reporter: "the l.a. times" reporting usc struck a secret deal with tyndall, allowing the disgraced gynecologist to resign with a financial payout. with pressure mounting, president c.l. max nikias announcing friday he will step down. in a public letter, usc's board w

perez joins us live by the middle school where that shooting took place. alex, that student telling you not even bullets could stop the teacher from taking down the alleged gunman. >> reporter: that's right, tom. that teacher just remarkable. first, throwing that basketball to distract the gunman, and then running towards him -- >> that was our alex perez reporting there. >>> we move on now to the other major headline. the stunning fall of one of the most powerful men in hollywood. harvey weinstein charged with raping two women in new york. the disgraced movie mogul smiling as police led him from the precinct in handcuffs. over the last seven months, nearly a hundred women coming forward with allegations of his harassment and his abuse. tonight, what his lawyer said outside of court, adding to the anger of his accusers. here's abc's linsey davis. >> reporter: a sight dozens of his accusers had hoped for, but thought may never come, harvey weinstein, turned himself in to new york city police. >> harvey! what took you so long? >> reporter: the once booming presence on the red carpet. today faced a gauntlet of cameras and jeers. inside he was booked and fingerprinted but ever the hollywood produ