as tom shannon likes to say, the challenge for the u.s. and brazilian government is to catch up and line it policy to this reality. and that's wh why tom shannon is here today, help us understand the landscape in this hopeful, hopefully post-snowden air. let me now turn the program over to brazil institute chair tony herrington. tony served as u.s. ambassador to brazil in the clinton administration and is chair of the managing board of the albright group. welcome, tony. >> thank you, jane. >> thank you, jane, and thank you for the fine leadership that you bring to this important institution here in washington, energy and reached of the programs under your leadership. i first met tom shannon in 1999 when i was unexpectedly preparing to go to brasilia as u.s. ambassador. not something i had envisioned, but with a mandate from president clinton to upgrade an important and as most of you know, under attended bilateral relationship. happily, i also met this other fell on the stage, alice otero, about the same time. to folks who accelerated my a

so does tom shannon. is thezil institute premier place in washington for dialogue on u.s.-brazil policy. we were first to honor the president of brazil. we sponsor the brazil economic conference. we host brazilian governors and legislators. air the good, the bad, and the ugly in our relationship. represents the good. he is back in washington as senior advisor to secretary kerry. rumors abouts of his future. brazil is to be in bricks. russo was an alleged target of u.s. surveillance. addressed by mr. sharon. before asking tony to introduce tom, let me applaud the efforts of washington and brazil to move tot the snowden issues and reschedule president rousseff visit to early next year. i strongly disagree with what edward snowden did, but i welcome the public debate about how we should restart, reset what we do on surveillance. as the two largest economies and democracies of the americas, our interests are more convergent than divergent. theom shannon likes to say, challenge for the u.s. and brazilian governments is to catch up and align policies to this reality. that is why

as tom shannon likes to say, the challenge for the u.s. and brazilian governments is to catch up and align policies to this reality. that is why tom shannon is here. he will help us understand the landscape in this post snowden era. let me turn the program over to tony harrington. he served as u.s. ambassador to brazil during the clinton administration. welcome, tony. >> thank you. thank you, jane. thank you for the fine leadership that you bring to this important institution in washington. i first met tom shannon in 1999 when i was unexpectedly preparing to go to brazil as u.s. ambassador. i had a mandate to update an important and under attended bilateral relationship. i also met paulo sotero about the same time. they accelerate my appreciation and understanding of brazil. tom was nsc staff director at the time and it was apparent that he was not only knowledgeable about brazil, but had developed an unusual awareness and affection for the country while serving as assistant to a prior u.s. ambassador. with tom's advice and help, we were a

wilson center knows a lot about brazil, and so does our keynote speaker and good friend, ambassador tom shannon. our brazil institute is the premier place in washington for dialogue on u.s. brazil policy. we were first to honor dilma rousseff and sponsored the brazil economic conference. we regularly hosted brazilian government and legislative in our interest a platform to air the good, the bad and the ugly in our relationship.

as tom shannon likes to say, the challenge for the u.s. and brazilian governments is to catch up and align their policies to this reality. that is why tom shannon is here today, to help us understand the hopefully hostis snowden era. i want to turn this over to brazil institute chair tony harrington. tony served as u.s. ambassador to brazil in the clinton administration and is chair of the managing board of the albright stonebridge group third welcome, tony. thank you, jane. thank you for the final leadership that you bring to this important institution here in washington. of thergy and reach programs under your leadership. 1999st met tom shannon in when i was unexpectedly preparing to go to brasilia as u.s. ambassador. not something i had envisioned, but with a mandate from president clinton to upgrade an important and as most of you know under attended bilateral relationship. happily i also met this other fellow on the stage, paulos otero, about the same time. to folks who accelerated my appreciation and understanding of brazil. an s c s

please join me in welcoming ambassador tom shannon. >> good morning. it is a great pleasure to be here. thank you jane and to the woodrow center. and tom harrington thank you for your work. and thank you paulo. we were talking about the great work the wilson center is doing and as many of you know this is a busy town. and there is a variety of interest and immediate interests. keeping your elected leaders and thought leaders focused on the larger neighborhood is sometimes a challenge. but i think the woodrow wilson center and the brazil institute are doing great work. you have people expressing interest and i am very grateful for the work that is done here. thank you and thank you, paulo and tony. this was build as a conversation with me. i would like to make it a conversation as quickly as possible. and open this up to address your interest and your concerns. before i do that, i want to say a few things and share a few thoughts. i spent four years in brazil nearly. leaving in september and coming back to washington. i have had the good luck by being as

so i don't know if the rules permit this, but given we've heard tom shannon side of the u.s. side of this. could i ask our moderator. what will it take from the brazilian side for us to put this disclosure issue behind us? >> i think it's a recognition in brazil of the importance of the relationship. you can see it coming from the business community that feels that brazil has, in a sense, somewhat isolated itself in the trade arena, for instance. this is daily -- [inaudible] part of the national conversation. you had -- the recent speech in againer have addressing this directly significantly is very close to the president. he's very close to -- who is likely to run for the governor of the -- [inaudible] he's now the minister of development industry of commerce in brazil. so you have this and the signal from society that society is more and more engagement with the united states. this will appear in a debate in brazil. especially i think in a presidential election year in brazil next year. it would be interesting. i personally would love if the candidates all have the capacity

top of another and navigating that can be challenging for some businesses but also, this is from tom shannon, brazil is not for a short time is, not for people go in and come out. it is for people who are prepared to make a long-term commitment simply because it does take a long time to establish and identify and find a way forward and we believe that given the direction brazil is going and the size of the domestic market and given the platform that it could be fur exports into the region and beyond it is attractive to american industries but again, we have clear instructions from the president and the secretary of state and secretary of commerce that the number one priority is commercial diplomacy. this was my priority. and the new ambassador to brazil. all i am not there now i recommend you work closely with the embassy because we will provide all the help we can. >> paul johnson, thank you for putting this together, ambassador shannon, always a pleasure to hear you talk. we have heard over the years about opportunities for trilateral cooperation between the united states and brazil and af

ono one i've found who -- i don't know if the rules permit this, but given that we have heard tom shannon's really tour de force side, the u.s. side of this, could i ask our moderator, paolo, what will it take from the brazilian side for us to put this disclosure issue behind us? >> i think it's a recognition in brazil of the importance of this relationship, and you can see it coming from the business community that feels that brazil has, in a sense, somewhat isolated itself in the trade arena, for instance. this is daily news in brazil. this is part of the national conversation in brazil, very much so. you had the president of the national confederation of industries in a recent speech in denver addressing this directly. he is significantly, he is very close to president yousef, he is very close to -- [inaudible] who is likely to run for the governorship of the state of -- [inaudible] he is now the minister of development, industry and commerce in brazil. so you have this, and you have the signals from society that brazilian societies want more and more engagement with the united states. s

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