mass amnesty before the new republican congress next month and we should become effort for that, tom tillisrolina joined by democrats of arizona they could include this plan including stephen collins of maine and mitt romney including rob portman and others. if you can imagine someone who is on his way out and in days will be codifying a law that will change the country forever. and clearly donors, it's a shortsighted view and this is okay because it will only offer this to the dreamers. illegal migrants came to this, what will happen next and what will happen last time. incentivizing more foreign nationals to flood into the country and that's the whole point of why obama did this a decade ago so what will happen to the economy which is on the verge of a downturn and everybody knows that. the average dreamer is 28 years old. the average income is $26,000 for the average dreamer. so that is not attacking anybody. it is only a simple observation if the country is getting more poor, you probably don't want a lot more poverty important. and why is that untrue, no one has the ability to say that

. >> harris: look at republican tom tillis working with kyrsten sinema, the president could be there, i think we know what we think about him -- she gets chased into a lady's room by men and the president says that is the way things go in politics. >> and katie hobbs certified her own election, that is another story, she says this is an issue in arizona, for the president to ignore even democrats on this issue, i think it makes him very vulnerable and you need more democrats -- >> marc: it also -- >> harris: karine jean-pierre, the only french i know, went after republicans for stunts when questioned on the border. watch. >> if the president is not taking time to visit the border during his trip tomorrow to a border state, will he do it in the new year? >> i addressed this last week about the president visiting the border, i will not go beyond what we laid out, we believe the question i was just answering to your colleague in the back, is that what congressional republicans going to do to deal with this issue? instead of doing political stunts -- >> harris: okay, let's talk about that

. >> carley: there is a bypass push to get something done led by tom tillis and kyrsten sinema and it boils down to more border funding for border patrol in exchange to pathway for citizenship for dreamers, do you think that is going anywhere? >> we need to address the visa situation, we have upon cas from certain countries. in my district, we rely on worker visas that are seasonal for the tourist season, we don't have enough people to fill the jobs and a ton of tourists and it is multi billion dollar industry here. there are things we can do as long as border security is part of the discussion, i believe republicans and democrats can work together to fix the crisis at the border. >> todd: calling for nonbinary sam britan to be fired after he was caught stealing a suitcase from a minnesota airport. his actions along with lack of transparency when dealing with this matter reflect poorly on department of energy and raise concern to the biden administration priority when appointing high-ranking officials. would this person have this position if they did not satisfy woke bingo scorecard.

. >> there were talks happening quietly between democratic senator now independent sinema and tom tillis. a genuine opening is slipping away. there's the unjust legal limbo by dreamers and then the challenge of managing desperate people seeking refuge in the united states. both will now remain intractable problems for years to come. a deal package, no one's talking about it. as far as sergeant is reporting it is not happening. >> a different name like mad libs. >> that's the latest iteration of this. at the center of the bipartisan gangs to try to come to an agreement on comprehensive iminauguration reform and now a very limited deal. two things. this for that. not comprehensive. it never really achieved escape velocity at all. now looking at the incentives of republicans, compare it to the days to broker big deals on immigration. now this is a republican conference especially in the house out to impeach the secretary of homeland security, that has centered great replacement theory in the fund raising work. insidious racist conspiracy theory. i went to cpac. the rhetoric is dehumanizing.

sources tell cnn that republican tom tillis and kyrsten sinema want to improve border security and providenship for daca and extend the policy for the expulsion of migrants encountered at the souther border. >> they have been working on this for months. there is no text. it is also unclear whether there are enough votes to advance it. joining us now with more, cnn's priscilla alvarez. how far along are they in this process, priscilla? >> well senate aides have stressed that this is a draft framework and as of yesterday afternoon, the white house and senate leadership were not involved in discussion. all of which tells us that this is still a long ways away. but the framework has come together to some except. and it includes a few key points. that is at least $25 billion in funding. that includes for example a pay raise for border patrol agents and resources for u.s. customs and border protection and speeding up asylum processing and that key add that it would extend title 42. that is the public health authority that allows for the expulsion of migrants at the u.s./mexico border. and in ex

senators tom tillis and kirsten sinema have a bipartisan effort to launch a pathway to legitimacy, legitmization title 42. is that legislation going to go anywhere? >> they say it's an old draft that circulating, trying to maybe get the talks, ten republicans to get this across the finish line. when it comes to the 2 million dreamers, also talk that that's not the only 2 million people they would also be extended to sponsoring family members could also come here, a bigger amnesty plan than just helping people brought by their parents. and makes the problem worse according to what is in it, fund new processing centers, and new border patrol agents, so until you make the standard for asylum higher, rather than having to say 2, 3 words about having fear in your home country, this problem will continue to persist. like having a leak in the roof and instead of patching, you put out a bucket and when the bucket fills up, you move it over and put another bucket in. until they fix that, this problem is not going away. >> john: legislation would provide $25 billion. great to get your thoughts on things.

working with tom tillis of north carolina, republican. it's not comprehensive at all but. it's a good start here is what they could do. increased border patrol security. increasing pretty at the. border or form asylum. which is really where a lot of these folks are entering. and then clear a path to citizenship for these dreamers. it's not everything. but it's a good start. a lot of democrats, dick durbin, the number two democrat in the senate, and others have joined on to this. the only republican beside tell us who's i know is not in his roy blunt. and he's much retire in a few. days >> ron, you've seen this movie many times over. what are your thoughts tonight? >> there is no secret decoder ring here, alisyn. i've been covering this since the early 1990s as well. one 87. and the border is a problem that is at best managed, not solved. to get a better handle on it, the ingredients of a solution have been the same for 20 years. more money for border enforcement, and more money for the asylum system to clean up this huge backlog in asylum claims. some path to legal status

susan collins, tom tillis, rob portman, have worked tirelessly with me to help get to the number 12. concerns. we talked to outside stakeholders. we are able to craft a substitute that meant people's concerns and goddess over the finish line. i do want to make one point, which is, typically the party leaders actually put a vote recommendation on the tables in front of the well of the senate. in this case, republicans did not, and they deferred to susan collins, susan tillis, and rob portman to put their recommendation for the vote on passage. >> when you look at where we were in 1996 and into that same body, the united states and at, with a democrat except president, eagerly signing the defense of marriage act when he was 18 points headed his reelection campaign and had some political capital to burn if it was gonna cost in that. that is such a perfect story of the way progress works in the senate and how long it takes. if you don't have a 25-year window on these issues, you really understand how they move. >> i have to say that there are real couples across the united states who do

possibility we've seen in a long time, over the last couple of weeks, senators kyrsten sinema and tom tillis, now an independent, caucuses with the democrats generally, and a republican came together on a framework related to both the title 42 issue and related to the so-called dreamers, those who were brought here by parents who were undocumented immigrants. or were born here or are in a state of limbo, still, the side despite all the updates on that. front there was a push to -- try and attach that and dana knows this better than anybody. -- vehicles, the major spending package trying to tack anything you can get on to that and try to move it forward. what was interesting talking to white house officials who knew particularly on the title 42 issue, that's what they've been focused on on the course of the last several weeks, this was the only long term way to address some of these issues, these very clear real, and acute issues. some type of bipartisan agreement. it was made clear about 24 hours ago that there was no appetite to attach it, to move it forward and get things done. there is a

senators tom tillis of north carolina and sinema from arizona, a path for legalization for 2 millionso dreamers in exchange for $40 billion in border protection and security and pushing back title 42 rescission for a year. wall street journal said as the current immigration gridlock helped anyone other than the political extremes. does not help border security as migrants stream across unchecked and does not show that the federal government can solve the problem. finding a way out of this gridlock sounds like a good idea. is this the right plan, the plan being floated by tillis and sinema? >> when you move forward, you just have to make sure that you have the right security measures in place to have the proper vetting. look, there is going to be asylum seekers, individuals that have a true claim, but right now the system as it works is broken and does not work right now because everyone is allowed to just come in, ask for asylum, get released not united states and many we are not going to hear from. so, you need to have the proper steps moving forward and part of those proper steps i

[applause] ♪ senators tom tillis and christensen made headlines saying they wanted to partner and bipartisanigration deal but it's already falling apart on the house i'd republican lawmakers from texas say they'v got their own plan very joining me in washington is one of thos republicans congressman chip roy . >> merry christmas. >> to you as well. you heard your colleague from across the aisle congresswoman escobar and she said republican parachute income, but they have all these negative things to sa and she says you're part of the problem by saying the border as open. >> first of all, it's hard to say we parachute in, the border i represent about 100 miles fro the border if you go talk to th residents along the border, the are happy for us to come down because we're trying to focus o solving the problem. we were in laredo about a year ago all heavily hispanic hispanic democrats, they were just angry at the biden administration and just thankin us for being there because we'r trying to solve the problem that's why my gop colleagues from the texas delegation got together and we introduce th

also this week, last-minute immigration reform push led by kristen sinema and tom tillis, failed to gainion. -- republicans won't support any additional resources or support -- they will, however, happily demonize migrants for their own political game. -- it is a rough place for the biden administration to be. -- to actually support asylum seekers. editor and columnist for msnbc daily, hayes brown, joins me now. also with us -- the president and ceo of lutheran immigration and refugee services. talk us to the stakes here, both for migrants and for the states that are close to the border. >> yeah, thank you so much for having me on. this is where we need to remember a little bit of historical context. trump, both literally and figuratively, has bill walsh at the border. and title 42 was one of his most potent tools. it effectively halted -- under the pretense of public health. of course, the loudest voices in the room right now are yelling that the sky is falling, but this is really a return to the rule of law and i think it just bears repeating, people have a legal right under u.s. and i

i'm hopeful that something will come of the discussions between kyrsten sinema and tom tillis in northa. you know. but really -- >> let's talk about what sinema and -- are working on, right? the stuff in there for dreamers. it's a pretty big number, i think you could argue. those also a lot of stuff there around border security -- if they're -- if republicans are as committed to border security as they proclaim today and they can't get behind this, what does that say? >> it means, basically, that they're not serious about border security or focusing on our broken immigration system. they just want to use the issue of immigration as their number one bogeyman around campaign time. so that's the hurdle we have to get over there. -- vote in earnest to fix our broken immigration system, at least with respect to daca recipients, and you, know we're in a short timetable to do that. but we came close in 2013, 2014, and the senate passed a concrete variance of immigration bill. but john boehner that the times refused to put it on the floor to vote, and since then, there's been more money for mo

and again, they didn't campaign on fake republican senator tom tillis, who has always railed against limits on foreign workers, is workingn with democrat kirsten sinema to finalize a permanent giveaway to companiea s who wanp as much cheap laboras p as possible. now, you're supposed to believo that tillis, out of his deep patriotic concern forin the nation, is working overtime to fix our current border woes. "the washington post" lays it on thick saying, besidesin protecting two million dreamers, the cinema until this draft would allocate money for border security, the hiring of more officers and pay raises for agents.. okay, this bis a total lie. biden's dhs could be doing the border enforcement right rig now, but of course, they refuse to . and insteaourse thd they're wav po many illegals into the country as possible. sssoso negotiating with the whie >> te on immigration now is like negotiating with a hostage taker. >> title forty is lifted may twenty third. what does success for your plan? look like if it works as you intend? >> success looks like it looksp like the orderly implem

tom tillis, who a lot of folks voted for in 2020, he got about 18%. he was an architect of that. what happens is, then on moral mondays, -- had 17 people, they began to leave that. it goes statewide. they call back a lot of those rights. that's what led to declaring racial gerrymandering illegal. they had state supreme court. we talk about the courts, we have to also talk about republicans, they're looking a state courts. the reason biden wins pennsylvania is because you have smart justices of the pennsylvania state supreme court. what do they want to do? they try to go to a single member districts to guaranteed and have a statewide election. again, we have a federally appointed supreme court. our states, our justices, they are elected. when we're talking about electoral politics, we rarely ever talk about judges who are running. when we have to also be doing, when i talk about collecting the dots and walking people through, educating our people to understand, you can just yell, expand the courts, if you want them to voters in your stage. the state courts matter, and that's also

they get the election results, voting suppression in 2010, tom tillis, who a lot of black folks voted for in 2020, about 18%, he's the architect of that. what then happens is we, what -- they begin to leap back and go statewide. they hauled back a lot of those rights. that's what led to declaring racial gerrymandering illegal. they banned it in the state supreme court. we are talking about the courts. we have to realize the public is looking at state courts. the reason biden wins pennsylvania is because you had smart justices on the pennsylvania state supreme court. why do they want to? do they try to go to every district a guarantee it has statewide elections. again, we have a federally appointed supreme court. many of our states, our leaders are elected. we talk about politics, we have our talk about judges who are running. we have to also be doing, connecting the dots, walking people through, educating our people to understand, you can't just yell expand the court if you want to be voting for who runs your state. the state courts matter. that's also where democrats are not paying m

that's why i rejected the partisan echo chamber and partnered with my good friend, senator tom tillis on a bipartisan proposal to help solve some of the real problems our border communities and immigration system continue to face. just as we have on a number of complex issues, from gun violence to marriage equality and religious freedoms, we focus on our shared values and shared goals. before we could tackle the issue of a backlogged asylum issue or the status of undocumented residents, we knew we had to focus first on securing the border, a problem as big as our broken border needs a smart, comprehensive solution, and that solution starts by investing in the brave men and women who keep our border safe, a robust, well-trained and well resourced border patrol, office of field operations and air and marine operations force are critical to secure the border, to keep our community safe, and ensure the fair and humane treatments of migrants. senator tillis and i focused on boosting pay, increasing forced sizes and providing our agents an officers the equipment -- and officers the equipmen