. >> tommy thompson left wisconsin from washington. boy, did he working for george bush tommy cut a sweetheart deal with drug companies making it illegal for medicare to negotiate lower prescription drug prices. the cost taxpayers $156 billion have been tommy made millions working for lobbying firm that represents drug companies. >> tommy thompson, he's not for you anymore. c-span: when did he make the decision to go after him on the basis of him being a lobbyist? >> guest: well it's the issue. medicaid should be able to bargain for better prices for america's seniors. the va and medicare which covers over 40 million americans doesn't. seniors need to shoulder these costs and it costs government a lot more money and it costs of medicare a lot more money. i was in the house of representatives at the time that medicare part d, medicare modernization act as it was called and the part d program was debated and passed. i voted no and i felt very strongly that we should not be for bidding our government from creating huge savings. as you saw

do you have an update that most states are led by tommy thompson's and john engler's to deliver? >> no. that's why we are coming back. [laughter] >> we're as good once as we ever were. let me be very: honest. i think most governors and most congressmen and women run for the right reasons. going tohink you are find exceptions. i think most governors, republicans and democrats are dedicated to do what is right and what is best for their state and their people. we have room for one, at most two. the governors have a hard stop at 3:45. yes, in the back. start talking, and we will get it to you. my question is in the context of the economy. they are unable to support very poor people. somehow, it is more important for me to have items, but i should not be responsible about paying my bills, and anything else? thanks. should pay their bills. it is fascinating to me that people will pay phone bill, but a detroit they were not paying the water bill because the state did not collect the water bill. people are smart. people will make rational, economic decisions. part of what we tried to do

it shook things up, it gave the voters like tommy thompson and engler control. but then it turned out the governors became a mashed in politics. they had to do something about daycare. they had to give scholarships for college. they were pulled in all different directions. we gave them the flexibility. so, they had tons of flexibility. but we are still in charge. we still write the statutes. why aren't republicans doing something? it could be changed. for example, we could change tomorrow the statute that the onernors can only spend tanf resh welfare and workfa programs. i think that would be prudent. i know robert would like to but marriage in there -- mr. kaus: take the first part out, spend cash money -- [laughter] mr. haskins: >> when i went back into the senate and we did the reauthorization, at the time, i was disappointed because we had a wave for about 10 years of governors who were willing to take risks, to challenge things from different perspectives, and we saw two of them today in bill keene did some of this. there were a lot of governors have their.

i worked in wisconsin for tommy thompson when the first private school choice build was put together. it was democrats out of the cities. democrats that in the power base of their party that bought school choice across the state of wisconsin. and to me, if you want to look at leadership in the cities, it loans for black and small business owners. these are the things that our party is championing and he sees that and it is frustrating to see. that the democrats going to the cities and i think, take advantage of this boat and provide very little leadership in return. >> are you happy with the hires of steve bennett? >> i go with the flow based on what the campaign wants to do. i think he is doing a phenomenal job. i don't know steve, to tell you the truth, very well. i'm going to get to know m. incumbent is this the proper background? >> i don't know how much of it is true or not and neither do you. so i don't speculate based on what other third parties say about people. i tend to judge people based on what i see and what i interact with. >> one final question when it comes to the issu

up behind the wheel of her can verbal coop she is the driver, the passengers are mouthing it tommy thompson her private secretary, a man polly took toto be a secret service agent, though my research suggested this man was probably tommy's husband. eleanor did not like having secret service around.et servi and so she showed up at this camp which was the first camp for unemployed women. it was the female version of the ccc camp. however eleanor was determined that unlike the ccc camp for men, this particular can would not be segregated. that was really important to her. since it was a pet project of her and it was not located very far from her home was in the bear mountain area of new york, she would go periodically unannounced to inspect the camp to see how things were going. so she would drive up in this convertible coupe, gets out of the car and immediately startset going to the premises. the residents are really excited and they are following her, but polly who is shy and stunned by this unannounced appearance of the first lady and eleanor has not been first lady that long. she is sitting

tommy thompson was one and michigan had a lot of other experience. there were a number of experiments going on around the country a lot of which was borrowed and put into the welfare reform bill. that's where i think experimentation would be good again, in the sense that neither the left or the right has had a good track record at doing what we really want to do which is getting on that letter of upward mobility. i think we need to do a lot more experimentation to see what works and what doesn't work. i think having more experimentation, the the danger is giving money to states without any metrics is just allowing them to spend money or to shift money from one program to another or things like that without any real measures. i think if you point to give them the money there has to be some sort of measures, reducing poverty rates, things like that, that will actually achieve something. i will take one last question in the back. that's yours. then i think we will move on to our next panel. >> what does the federal and state spending line look at when y

i worked in wisconsin for tommy thompson when the first private school choice bill was put together. it was democrats out of the cities, democrats in the power base of their party that fought school choice across the state of wisconsin. and to me, if you want to look at leadership in the cities, it's education reform, it's freeing up sba loans. these are things our party is champing and he says that and it's frustrating to see that the democrats go into these cities, i think take advantage of the vote and provide very little leadership in return. >> are you happy with the hires? >> look, i go with the flow, based on whathe campgn wants to do. i think kelly ann is doing a phenomenal job. i don't know steve bannon. >> we're learning his background and some of it -- is this the proper background that donald trump should be hiring if he's trying to appeal to women for instance? >> i don't know how much of it is true or not, neither doyou. i don't speculate based on what other third parties say abut people. i tend to judge people on what i ee and interact with. >> one final question when

khan who doesn't know me viciously taked me from the stage of the dnc and is now all over tommy thompson v doing the same. nice. the war of words starting after kaiser khan rebuked trump at last week's democratic convention. >> have you sacrificed nothing. and no one. >> trump responding by saying khan's muslim faith might have been the reason she did not speak at the convention. >> i saw him. he was, you know, very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. his wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there, she had nothing to say. probably maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. >> prompting this response from kazala khan. >> can i say that my religion, on my family, on my country, never stopped me saying whatever i want to say. and anybody can see that time was when i was standing there in front of america, without saying a word, i had lots of love. >> prominent republicans stepping forward in support of the khan family including mitch mcconnell and house speaker paul ryan. arizona senator john mccain who trump once said was not a war hero because he was cap

included are former michigan governor, former governor tommy thompson of wisconsin and former senatorissouri. >> today marks the 20th anniversary of the 1996 welfare law. passed by a republican congress of signed by resident clinton, our special program looks back at the senate debate over the 1996 law. her welfare system has failed the very families it was intended to serve. >> i do not know many people who want to humiliate themselves standing on a line waiting for their welfare check. yes, there are some druggies and strikes out there. they are up there. no question about it. it a lot of those people are simply people who have not yet discovered a way out of their misery and poverty. >> we have decided the state and governors and legislators up there in america are as concerned about the poor as we are. as concerned about their well-being and as concerned if we are abouthan the status of welfare in their states. announcer: it includes discussions about how the changes impacted the poor. >> from now on, our ancestors will never have an open-ended cycle of welfare. it will be the dig

former wisconsin governor tommy paul ryan. thompson saii am pud to endorseaul ry. ryan thanked the former government for the suppo. >> well, speaker ryan is hosting two town halls in th district today and wants to talk to the localorkers about business in wisconsin and stopping at 12:45 at a & e tools in racine also in pleasant prairie around 2:30 >> break ground on expansion project, there is a ceremony at 1:00 this afternoon at the site in the city of keel. they are a supplier. wisn 12 news time now is 5:06. right now, we are going to tim. >> thank you, ben. nationwide. thema? >> we are inside of the airport outside of the delta ticketing. we are looking at the line stacking up here. people are walking up and trying to figure out what is going on. this is the board,he board he in therports is showing the flights listed as grounded the flights scheduled to leave on monday after experiencing systems issues. now the airline is not confirming this so us on the phone. i reached out to the delta offis d twitter saying they have experiencedter compu outage, flightsawait

governorormer michigan and wisconsin governor tommy thompson talk about the 1996 welfare law. esther thompson served as the secretary of health and human services. hosted by at an event the american enterprise institute. >> i am going to tell a short and it though. .his room -- a short anecdote this room was filled with posted gingrich and they were about to vote on the merged welfare reform bill. castleresentative mike had come in with a centrist bill at the last minute which was quite upsetting. the rules committee decided that castle could prevent -- present his version. it would be voted on and if he lost, he would lose the support of the ways and means bill. the representative is agitated about this. he is in the back corner, in the closet pacing back and forth with the door open. he sees castle conferring with two or three other people. he says, that is out of protocol. you can't be dealing like that. you have to be on the up and up. he goes over to check it out. he comes back in the closet and says, don't worry about it, they are talking about something else. the repres

candidly the leaders for the project are senator daschle, senator frist and alice rivlin and tommy thompson. win with a discussion about these issues it's so difficult. when the question of were trying to find ways to help support family members, and if you look within the existing system of care, could you allow an individual, could you allow a plan, for example, to provide support for a family caregiver? there is the issue of come as you know i'm sure the labor laws that have recently come out with respect to reimbursement. it seems like there are so few easy answers out there and we're really struggling with them and looking at them to try to strike the appropriate balance by making sure that there is an appropriate number of caregivers. but at the same time that the see of laying out existing care which is a difficult, so much of a long-term services support that are provide our provide out of pocket i family members. the consequence of trying to pay for that and by that out seems almost overwhelming to policymakers. if you have some great suggestions, we would love to hear them. >> i t

will include john angler and tommy thompson of wisconsin.hey were very much involved along with senator jim talent in creation of this law. so that's tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. here is a look at heritage foundation event from last week. we hear in this piece, this clip, who crafted several key components of this law. he talked about the goal back in 1996 and where the federal government is fallen short. >> the goals that we had back then, i think are valid goals. they were not to cut welfare spending. they were not to boot people on to the street, but rather to say that welfare should not be a one-way handout, that welfare should assist people who need assistance, but it should also encourage and essentially demand work and more importantly, i think where welfare reform has fallen short is we were very concerned 20 years ago about the percentage of people who were born outside of marriage which has continued to go up and which is the root cosmonaut only of poverty, but many, many other social problems. we need to do something to address that. i t

tommy joe as if giving it a ride. phils still trail. adrian gonzales is wearing out phillies pitching first multiple homer game since july of last year and dodgers on top 7-to. jake thompsone up five runs, jurors the pitching staff definitely taking a toll >> we're not getting innings from our starters. a lot of that is due to the injuries to the pitchers and young guys and spot starts and things of that nature, but i think during the next week or two, hopefully, we'll get back on track. >> speaking of those injuries, phillies aaron nola goes from the 15-day disabled list to the 60 day dl, the 23-year-old has a sprain in his pitching arm. visited with dr. james andrews, no surgery required but he won't be doing work for the next four weeks, nola spoke to the media. >> i wanted to come back but i wasn't expecting too much being my full self. i'm glad there's nothing surgical, you know, they said it's a sprain, i should be back to normal by the season and going into spring training. >> on to the nfl three measly plays, eagles first team offense barely broke a sweat against tampa bay, the steel ers will play the entire first quarter. carson wentz will not play at all. he wil

tommy joe as if giving it a ride. phils still trail. adrian gonzales is wearing out phillies pitching first multiple homer game since july of last year and dodgers on top 7-to. jake thompsone up five runs, jurors the pitching staff definitely taking a toll >> we're not getting innings from our starters. a lot of that is due to the injuries to the pitchers and young guys and spot starts and things of that nature, but i think during the next week or two, hopefully, we'll get back on track. >> speaking of those injuries, phillies aaron nola goes from the 15-day disabled list to the 60 day dl, the 23-year-old has a sprain in his pitching arm. visited with dr. james andrews, no surgery required but he won't be doing work for the next four weeks, nola spoke to the media. >> i wanted to come back but i wasn't expecting too much being my full self. i'm glad there's nothing surgical, you know, they said it's a sprain, i should be back to normal by the season and going into spring training. >> on to the nfl three measly plays, eagles first team offense barely broke a sweat against tampa bay, the steel ers will play the entire first quarter. carson wentz will not play at all. he wil

like tommy said, there was a tremendous competition in the early 90's. ask governor thompson about something that led to that competition. governor thompson, the reagan white house had an official, chuck hobbs, whose job it was to submitates think of and to the federal government for welfare. he told me he didn't know if any governors were going to meet with him or pay attention to him. planed i got off the prop in harrisburg, pennsylvania, and the governor met with me. -- beginning in the late 80's. can you tell us what you're thinking was at the time? at the end, there's 45 states. he started in the late 1980's. did you know it would be a soon ami? >> i was doing one thing at a time but i was hoping for a soon ami. amtsunami. >> i had a chance to talk to president reagan. he said i was unsuccessful. you and othern governors to come forward with good ideas. i have set it up to make it easy for you. i remember the conversation on a thursday afternoon in waukesha. he said, i'm counting on you to come up with new and innovative ideas. every time i call him, he was there. have p