tony fauci did not change his guidance. he's not deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions. so here he was warning us a again about the perils of sturgis. >> well, i'm very concerned, chuck that we're going to see another surge related to that rally. i mean, to me, it's -- it's understandable that people want to do the kinds of things that they want to do. they want their freedom to do that. there comes a time when you're dealing with a public health crisis that could involve you, your family and every up with else that something supersedes that need to do what you want to do. >> tucker: well, i'm very concerned, chuck. so as tony fauci explained, given how dangerous to public health those bikers at sturgis are, you've got to wonder what the risk the rest of us face might be from barack obama's martha's vineyard birthday party. how you have hundreds of people indoors without masks that haven't proven their vaccination status. if the numbers tell us anything, quit a few of them were not vaccinated. is that acceptabl

tony fauci himself admitted that backy in figure 820.e typical muscovite and a drug store is not reallyhe effective in keeping a virus." today, joe biden's own covid advisor agreed with that. >> we know today that many of the face cloth coverings that people wear are not very effective in reducing the virus movement in or out. either you are breathing out her breathing in. and in the midwest, anyone who is in the midwest can tell you we they can smell all the smoke we are still getting. we need to talk about better masking, we need to talk about and 95 respirators who would do a lot for those not vaccinated or previously infected, protecting them as well as keeping others who might become infected having been vaccinated for breathing out the virus. >> tucker: that was joe biden's covid advisor admitting what we've known for a year and a half. the masked they are forcing you to where it don't actually. now he's allowed to say that. the rest of us -- sky news was just censored in australia for asking questions like this about masks. she ha

the question is does tony fauci know this and is he okay with it?t's a pressing public health question. we called tony fauci to find out. he was not free to do the show. he was too busy, he's a science not into publicity, tied up doing other photo shoots 14 vogue. our loss. what's going to have to go with tony fauci's previous statements? here's what we learned that when large groups of massless people without passports gather in one place, it's a grave danger to america. but only when those people ride harley-davidson's. but on sunday fauci's gold bikers gathering for the annual event in sturgis south dakota. these people are dangerous. some of them went to community college literally and some we didn't go at all. you should be worried. pretty much what he told us last year, that many would die. we checked because numbers are important on a news show, did that happen? what happened to last years 'sturgis. half a million people went, four to 50,000. in the end and the viewer than 0.1% of them got. millions did not die, it was fine. he is not deterre

tony fauci himself admitted that back in february of 2020.k you buy in the drug store is not effective in keeping out the virus. well today joe biden's own covid advisor agreed with that. >> we know many of the facecloth coverings that people wear are not very effective in reducing the movement in or out. in the upper midwest anybody wearing a facecloth coverings can smell all of the smoke. we need to talk about better masking and the n95 masks that do a lot for people not vaccinated or not previously infected and keeping others who might become infected having been vaccinated from breathing out the virus. >> tucker: that was joe biden's covid advisor admitting the masks we wear don't work. he is allowed to say that. the rest of us are. this is the host from sky news just censored in australia for asking questions like this about masks and is the author of what really happened in wuhan? strange to see joe biden's one advisor say something you would be censored for saying in australia? >> the entire news network in australia was censored on yo

he says every time birx you open your mouth, i have spent half my day answering questions about tony faucid fauci is here we are. he was obsessed with this guy wouldn't go away and he couldn't fire . i think they're kind of like we're things that they continue throughout the year was something that drove the president crazy where right before the election the president promised to fire him and he became so obsessed to try to overturn the results he never got aroundto . >> i guess one question is you guys in your book recap this epic fight between the cec and office of management and budget where the office is trying to wait and see the guidelines and can give a specific instance where they're trying to define what social distancing means for restaurants these in this example the cdc ends up keeping to this political pressure and growing up in the area, i assume most people i've always understood the cdc to be an apolitical agency really is this our from being an apolitical agency so i'm curious how does the cdc come back from something like this? institutionally, with their relationship wi

praised the president and right as at 15 days to float the spread clock was winding down, with tony fauci, she marched to the meeting saturday night and the gallop over room which i have never heard of before products in the residence white house upstairs in the president was completely on the ropes, one of his best friends was in the hospital with the crowbar's, he could see the hospital in queens, people laying in gurneys in the hallways and he knew the virus was that all over new york and she brilliantly said the president, that's going to be every hospital in the united states if you reopen and it was a genius thing to say to him so he said okay, we'll extend it for 30 days. in that moment, she played her role perfectly but that only lasted a moment and pretty soon, as soon as the aides got her away from him, he was itching to reopen again and we saw slow reputational destruction of which ended late july and august, she was treated differently than tony fauci, bobble heads -- >> on 14th street. >> exactly. there were signs in people's guards and nancy pelosi, the house speaker went af

destruction of doctor birx entered with mid july, they august, she was treated differently than tony faucie thought -- >> fourteenth street. >> exactly. signs in people's yards and nancy pelosi, house speaker went after deborah birx, was incredibly the way she was treated differently so we tried to portray her as a person who's very complicated to be understood that, her role in this because we thought something was quite a story. >> one more minute, he described a vivid moment with doctor fauci and his wife, correct me if i'm wrong, whether or not he should resign and i have covid trump want f, you realize i sometime or another had that conversation with a partner or a friend or with himself and fauci, like just about 90% of people trump world makes the decision to stay people do that for all kinds of reasons and doctor birx haves a internal question and makes the decision to stay as well. what you think, what you understand reasons furby for staying and how does this -- almost everyone since trump world, and kind of justify why they believe they need to remain in that orbit. >> i think y

she was treated much differently than tony fauci he was lionized and bobbleheads. >> and drinks on 14th street. >> and, exactly. >> and there are signs in people's yards and nancy pelosi, the house speaker really went after deborah birx for, you know, it was just incredible the way she was treated differently. so we tried to portray her as a three dimensional person who is very complicated and who needs to be understood better her role in this because we thought it was something quite historic. >> sticking with the doctors for one more minute. you described a vivid moment dr. fauci sits down with his wife at their kitchen table and whether or not he should resign. and if you, like i have covered trump long enough, you realize just about everyone in his orbit at some point or another has that conversation with a partner or with a friend or with themselves. and fauci, like just about 90% of people in trump world, makes the decision to stay. and people do that for all sorts of different reasons. dr. birx also has that internal question and makes the decision to stay as well. again, what do

philadelphia is just following advice from tony fauci.january 25th when he told us that multiple layers of maskss are common sense.ua he didn't mention suffocation. of course, the city is notot following tony fauci's advice from two days later on january 27th. that's when he revised his statement and said "the cdc did not recommend that you should wear two masks. so in case it's not crystal clear by this point a year and a half in, we have left the realm of science and we are just making things up to hurt people who may disagree with us. the powerful are doing whatever they feel like doing in the name of science in public health because nobody is stopping them. in australia where there are no restrictions at all apparently the country has declared martial law and now peasants of australia have to find a way to drink alcohol through their face masks and they are. >> there will be no removal of masks to consume alcohol outdoors, they will no longer be able to remove their mask or drink a cocktail at a pop up garden at a footpath as part of

even tony fauci who ordinarily never tells -- only tells the truth and private emails admitted the same public "it's pretty and common sense that outdoor risk is really, really quite low" fauci said. in a study from ireland confirms that this is true. researchers they are considered more than hundred 30,000 covid cases in ireland through march this year, what did they find? they found that only one in a thousand could be traced to outdoor transmission. so as a factual matter, kate brown's order is absurd. but even if you ignore the science and convinced yourself that large numbers of people were catching covid while jogging, you still would not make people wear masks, because drugstore masks, the kind that everyone wears do not work. cloth and surgical masks do not stop covid. that's not a guess, we know. a new study from engineers from the university of waterloo came out this week once again proves that conclusively. the researchers use a mannequin to simulate someone in a large room, some had cloth, some had the blue surgical masks, they found that aerosol drop lips big enough or covi

when she publicly praised the president and right at the 15 day spread tony fauci marched in to the ovaloom which i've never even heard of before but it's to the white house upstairs and the president was completely on the ropes one of his best friends had coronavirus into the president watches tv all the time to see the hospital in queens, people laying in gurneys in the hallways. he knew it was bad. she kind of brilliantly said that's going to be every hospital in the united states if you i be open. so he said okay okay we will extend it for 30 days and in that s moment she played her roe perfectly but it only lasted a moment and pretty soon they got her away and he was itching to reopen again and then we saw the kind of slow destruction of and did during the late july and august. there were signs in people's yards and nancy pelosi and the house speaker went after deborah burks. it was incredible the way she was treated differently. we tried to portray her as a three dimensional person who was complicated and needed to be understood better. sticking with the doctors for one more minute

time of death, 11:41 p.m. ( cheers and applause ) physician on call: tony fauci. cause of death: ...tony fauci. ( cheers and applause ) of course, the only way to stop the virus is to get people vaccinated. but that's quite a challenge, because a new poll found that most americans who still aren't vaccinated say nothing-- not their own doctor, or even paid time off-- is likely to make them get the shot. these people are die-hard pro-dying. ( laughter ) you can have their cold dead hands when you pry them from their cold dead wrists. messaging campaigns don't seem to help here. among the unvaccinated, 70% said the endorsement of a celebrity or public figure they like is not at all likely to get them to take a shot. hey, i'm a celebrity or public figure-- and, dammit, i'm still going to try. so tonight i'm announcing a prize: unvaccinated people, if you get the shot, you will win unlimited oxygen, and a chance to have a private dinner with george clooney, look-alike, dante, my cameraman. ( cheers and applause ) he's just as handsome, and he won't talk your ear off a

." >> so many times people like tony fauci have been moving the goalposts.can people because they think they know better. medical bureaucrats in washington, d.c. have no clear what american people are ready to hear. they should tell the people the facts. let people make up their own mind. i have a lot of faith in the american people but bureaucrats like tony fauci don't [ nautical horn blows ] i mean just because you look like someone else doesn't mean you eat off the floor, or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ (vo) singing, or speaking. reason, or fun. daring, or thoughtful. sensitive, or strong. progress isn't either or progress is everything. ♪ when i was young ♪ no-no-no-no-no please please no. ♪ i never needed anyone. ♪ front desk. yes, hello... i'm so... please hold. ♪ those days are done. ♪ i got you. ♪ all by yourself. ♪ go with us and find millions of flexible options. all in our app. expedia. it matters who you travel with. it takes a certain ki

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, every time you open your mouth i get depressed, i spent half my day answering questions about tony faucithe president of the united states. here we are. he was obsessed with this guy who wouldn't go away. they continue through the year with something that drove the president crazy, right before the election the president promised to fire him and he ended up become so obsessed with trying to re-overturn the results that he never got around to it. >> one question, a pretty a big fight between the cdc and the office of management and budget, trying to weigh in on the cdc guidelines. the specific instances where, quote, social distancing means for restaurants and in this example the cdc caving to political pressure, most people, always understood the cdc to be an apolitical agency, why does the cdc come back from something with relationship with the white house and the public to abuse them in a different way. >> reporter: it is an important point, something we are continuing to cover. it is an ongoing process, scientists who rely on the agency, one important thing about the cdc that makes hi

david: tony fauci you has said we should use the example of the coronavirus to prepare for other potential viruses down the road, and that companies like yours will do that. are you working on that already? noubar: absolutely. absolutely. a very big part of moderna's future will be in being the leading vaccine developer with mrna technology, but also additional new technology we are considering to augment that capability. i should also say, within the broader pioneering context, which i operate in, we have multiple projects as well looking to expand the security net for future pandemics. ♪ david: as we talk today we are in boston and it is probably not a surprise many people would say people from m.i.t. or harvard were involved in moderna. but your background is different than many people at m.i.t. and harvard. you did not grow up in this country, is that correct? noubar: that's right i was born in beirut, lebanon of armenian parents. lived there until the civil war in 1975, and ended up escaping and growing up in montreal, canada. david: you were a teenager when you went to canada. noubar

so we know that tony fauci is strongly in favor ghoulish experiments on bats but those aren't the onlyeriments on animals he has endorsed including experiments on dogs. details straight ahead. introducing xfinity rewards. our very own way of thanking you just for being with us. enjoy rewards like movie night specials. xfinity mobile benefits. ...and exclusive experiences, like the chance to win tickets to see watch what happens live. hey! it's me. the longer you've been with us... the more rewards you can get. like sharpening your cooking skills with a top chef. join for free on the xfinity app and watch all the rewards float in. our thanks. your rewards. >> tucker: we don't want to scare you, but it's our duty to inform you of something that epidemiologists call the super-spreader event in this country. it began last weekend on a $20 million oceanfront estate at martha's vineyard and it is owned by a netflix producer. at the time, was hosting a 60th birthday party under the name barack obama on the party was for himself. we were told the crowd was going to be both vaccinated and more

anthony fauci to discuss what this means and what this doesn't mean. tonyme, i know the answers to these questions, but many people don't get it so let's dialogue this the way it's happening all over this country right now, which is if someone's vaccine hesitant or not sure about the booster, they say i don't get it. if the vaccine is a must have, what does it mean that i'm being told the resistance is getting so low that you need another one? it makes people suspicious. what do you say? >> well, i think it's obvious that it's understandable, chris, how you could get a little bit confused by this. the vaccines do work, and they do work well. that's the reason why we still very, very much encourage people to get vaccinated, the 90 plus or so million people who have not yet gotten vaccinated. the issue is that over the recent weeks to months, what we've seen in the context of the delta variant, which is now well over 90% of all of the isolates are delta variant right now, we're seeing, as you correctly pointed out, a diminution over time of the response. it s

>> tony fauci. >> sturgis was a mistake. sturgis was a mistake., get the shot. ( gunfire ) i shoulda said vaccination. >> announcer: it's the "late show" with stephen colbert! tonight: planes, trains, & bipartisan deals! plus, stephen welcomes alan alda gabriel iglesias featuring jon batiste and "stay human." and now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, it's stephen colbert! ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: hey. hello. hey. have a seat. >> jon: all day. >> stephen: good to see you. hey! please, have a seat, everybody. thank you so much. welcome one and all to the late show. i'm your host, stephen colbert. ladies and gentlemen, something incredible happened in the u.s. senate. because they passed a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill. (cheers and applause) to put that into perspective: if you took 1.2 trillion $1 bills and laid them end to end, they'd make better roads than what we're driving on now. which why we need the bill. now, something. this wasn't a 50-50 party line split. the number of senators who voted for the bi

lisa: we have heard from tony fauci that we will not see additional lockdowns, yet florida is seeingts on hospital staff as they deal with the surge, the intake patients coming in their doors. what is the potential threshold at which point it becomes a public health problem once again? we don't want to go back to a time when you're setting up tents and hospital beds outside in order to do with capacity. dr. beyrer: we were down to about 12,000 infections per day. we are now back to 80,000 infections per day. we are -- that is largely because of this more infectious delta variant. we had seen really a stalling in the vaccine effort, but it has been picking up in the last two weeks or so. fortunately, people are starting to move. as far as lockdowns and shutdowns, i think dr. fauci is generally right, but the exception that is likely to be where vaccine coverage remains too low. in places like florida, other states in the south. we have already seen missouri and arkansas with low immunization coverage. lisa: the emotional effect of going back to wearing masks is greater than i thought.

then early august and then to say he goes to fauci i spent half my days answering questions about tony faucihe president of the united states. then he says here we go. he's just obsessed with a guy who would not go away and he could not fire him. there was a weird dance. >> so that site between the cdc and omb when they tried to weigh in on the guidelines they tried to define what social distancing means and the cdc with the political pressure that the omb is exerting so i always understood to be in a political agency so how does the cdc come back from something like this with the white house and with the public who could abuse them in a very different way. >> spent this is what we continue to cover how it rebuildse itself and then there is the ongoing process that just came to its knees that stand everyone especially public health and those who rely on the agency but the one thing that makes their job hard it's not a regulatory agency but advice for the state they don't have any power they are supposed to have the most up to date science and one of the biggest disasters and so that was so u

. >> doctor, redline or your reaction to what your friend tony fauci said there. do you agree or disagree, and how much do these new numbers worry you? >> while they worry me a lot, brian. i think all of us in the fields are concerned that we're seeing such a huge surge. this is not a minor blip, this is a major, unpredicted, huge increase in number of cases and the number of hospitalizations. the reports that you cited earlier, we are just absolutely shocking. icu beds filled up in state after state, present a very dangerous situation for people. and as far as mandates are concerned, i am extremely concerned that we allow any exceptions to people getting vaccinated. of course the federal government can't issue a mandate in a federalist deciding, but state governments can, cities can as mayor de blasio did last week in terms of new york city mandating proof of vaccination to get into restaurants, gyms, indoor events and so on. i think, especially now with children about to return to school, 50 to 60 million kids going back into classrooms, we need to absolutely ma

we have tony fauci to make on the vaccine confusion and mask madness. but first, of afghanistan.ur reporting others. you know the desperation on the ground, it's youobvious. you know the americans are not sure if they'll bring them home. the question is what will our government do about that reality? that is our focus here. and the answers so far, frankly, are too slow and too little. how can you accept the state

my colleague tony fauci said that earlier this morning. >> he did. >> we want to protect our childrenave more kids in the hospital right now covid-19 than during this entire pandemic. almost 90% of teachers and other staff at schools are immunized. let's make that 100% and push on the 12 to 17-year-olds that can get vaccinated to protect them and their classmates from other outbreaks that will wreck the idea of everybody coming back into the classroom. we have so many things we can do right now. let's do them. >> it all starts and finishes with getting vaccinated. dr. francis collins, thank you for joining me today. >> glad to. >>> and in our next hour, my colleague craig melvin talks with health and human secretary xavier becerra about how his department is handling the pandemic and the vaccine challenges they face ahead. >>> up next we're a half hour away from the critical vote in the senate on the massive bipartisan infrastructure bill. congresswoman debbie dingell talks about how the bill could be received in the house and what it will take for progressives to vote for it there. p

this is something certainly that tony fauci and others have been talking about months and months. this is a good thing, saying the two doses of it work well. three doses even better especially against the delta variant wreaking so much havoc and killing so many people. this really is not such a big deal. when you walk into a cvs or walgreens for your shampoo or your tooth paste, you will just go and get a vaccine as well, and that's it. and let's talk about the groups that will be at the highest priority. what sources are telling cnn is that right now the highest priority is immuno compromised. those folks are already able to get their shirt shots. health care workers and nursing home residents and staff would be next on the list and then older populations. really kind of the same order that we saw at the beginning of the rollout. and really that's for two reasons. one, those are the folks who are most at risk, and those are the folks who got it longest ago. the thinking is that after eight months we may be seeing some waning immunity, and so we're trying to start with the people

the only way to protect them -- and i heard tony fauci today on the news explaining this very carefully. you protect those children by surrounding them with adults who are vaccinated. so teachers, and day care workers and others absolutely need to be vaccinated. and then, secondly, you put them in masks so that they, in spite of the fact that that's an abnormal place for a kid to be, they don't really like it a lot, my younger grandchildren have gotten used to it. it's a way to keep them safe and secure. and what we see is children's hospitals across this country are beginning to fill up with sick children. most children don't get terribly ill. we don't know what the long term effects will be on all kids, but there are children who will get very sick from this disease, which is preventable. so it is really frightening to watch politics be played not with themselves -- i can guarantee you that most of the legislators, most of the governors who are putting these bans in place have been vaccinated themselves, have taken care of themselves and their families, have accepted the health insura

it's become a religious doctrine and the high priest is tony fauci. this is not science.s is sciencism. and here is the problem with religious edicts from quote, unquote, experts. they lead the stories like this. in june. the university of washington medical center reportedly began removing patients from transplant lists that they were waiting for if they are in fact unvaccinated. no heart transplant without a covid vaccine. in alabama dr. jason valentine announced he will stop treating unvaccinated patients. just shame on him. familiarize yourself with the hippocratic oath. shame on you. today, by the way, it was announced that quinnipiac university will no longer provide wifi access to unvaccinated students. and this is all while restaurants, gyms, and potentially flight and interstate travel segregation has begun to descend over this country. this is insanity. it is religious devotion and we are spiraling out of control. so, for just one moment, let us step out of this church of group think and sensors and share some truth. here we go. five truths about code. number on

tony fauci funded with your tax dollars, he funded it in the wuhan lab. didn't he?once again run afoul with twitter, the social media giant suspending the georgia republican's account for a week, this time for her tweets saying the fda shouldn't approve covid vaccines and, quote, these vaccines are failing and do not reduce the spread of the virus and neither do masks. before the suspension, twitter issued a disclaimer at the bottom of her tweet saying this tweet may be misleading. >> twitter doesn't give three strikes. they give five strikes. right now she is on her fourth strike. >> responding to the suspension, greene issued a statement. >> i heard alabama might be one of the most unvaccinated states in the nation. [ applause ] >> it all came right after greene kept spouting lies about dr. anthony fauci at an event in alabama. >> he funded covid-19. the gain of function research, that is his baby, that is his experiment. and he's getting to watch it in the real world. >> greene is hardly the sole offender. social media platforms have faced criticism for months fo

but let's take a listen to something that tony fauci told our colleague last night.et's take a listen to what he had to say. >> i do hope it's going to be within the next couple of weeks. i hope it's sooner than the end of month. >> if the full approval of the vaccine for over 12 accelerated to a couple weeks from now, do you think that time frame changes for under 12s? >> it will be regulatory decision, erin. we're collecting the data right now for what we need to make that determination. >> what i heard is these are two separate things, getting full approval for the shot for 16 and older versus authorization for younger children. the reason for that the younger children you need to let clinical trials play out. that data needs to be analyzed. those are two separate processes. brianna? >> elizabeth, thank you for that. >> thank. >>> louisiana hospitalizations are surging to record levels. administrators report acute staffing shortages and emergency rooms packed beyond capacity. we are joined from baton rouge. you just received new information from the largest hospit

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>> you know, first of all, tony fauci is right, i've worked with him since the aids epidemic. delta variant in the u.k. it's starting to drop already so i think we are going to be able to do it. president biden was very reluctant to do mandates. it was a political third rail but he saw cases really spiking, people in the hospital, he had a seat change and all in on mandates now. you can't have a national mandate. that's a big misconception. the president has no power to require that but he has and can require it of the military, the entire federal work force. i'd like to see him do a proof of vaccination system so that it makes it easier for states and cities to actually require proof of vaccination and he can use federal funding as a condition. and he's already starting to think about that. the white house has been very actively trying to think what can we do? one of the things they're trying to do is get hospitals and long term residential care settings to require vaccines as a condition of medicate and medicare funding. >> you think he could require it on planes and trains,

tony fauci and one of the viewers thought i referred to him as tiny fauci. i did not.motorcycle rally in south dakota. listen to this. >> i'm very concerned, chuck, that we're going to see another surge related to that rally. there comes a time when you're dealing with a public health crisis that could involve you, your family, and everyone else, that something supersedes that need to do exactly what you want to do. dagen: he staying silent on president obama's birthday party, the lollapalooza music festival in chicago, how about the illegal border -- the migrant crisis, the flood of people coming across the border. again, where is the outrage over that? or his shame, if you will, governor. >> well, of all the things that you just mentioned, i think the border crisis is the one that is most hypocritical. because that's one where these are not tax paying, law abiding u.s. citizens, they're illegals who have no right to cross the border in the first place. typically, if it's a serious pandemic, you close your borders, you say you can't let people in. countries all over t

she topically praised the president and right as the 15 day sloped the clock was winding down, tony faucied in on a saturday night in the yellow oval room which i had never heard of before, the residence of the white house upstairs and the president was completely on the ropes, one of his best friends was in a, with creditors, the president watches tv all the time and could see the hospital in queens, people late and gurneys in the hallways and he knew the virus was bad because it was all over new york. ... as soon as the age got her away from him she was itching to reopen again and we saw the reputational destruction of doctor birx which ended with alice entering the picture. she was treated differently thantony fauci . he was lionized and a bobble head >> on 14th street, right. >> nancy pelosi, the house speaker really went after debra birx four, it was incredible theway she was treated . he tried to portray her as a three-dimensional person who was very complicated and who he understood better because it was quite historic. >> to continue with the doctors, you described this vivid mome

not that tony fauci really deserves much attention at this point.uthorization i believe they submitted in terms of the data, more data in fact than just a standard vaccine approval. so the data that they submitted was quite significant even at that time. number one. number two, to james' point, these mandates are on the way. amy coney barrett who heard this emergency request or reviewed it, she denied the request without comment and without referring it to the full high court for consideration and didn't even require the university to respond to the request. so this, as the journal points out, she doesn't view this matter as even a close call. so -- because it does leave room for medical exemptions, religious exemptions, it's not a one size fits all policy. maria: all right. let's slip in a quick break and then we are talking about afghanistan, it is on the verge of collapse. former trump deputy national security advisor kt mcfarland is here as three more cities in afghanistan fall to the taliban overnight. then rebounding above pre-pandemic levels,

. >> tony fauci you said we should use this example of what happened with the coronavirus to prepareiruses down the road. are you working on that kind of thing already? >> absolutely, absolutely. a very big part of modern's future will be -- moderna's future will be in being the leading vaccine developer. within the broader pioneering context, we have multiple projects as well looking to expand the security net for future pandemics. anna: that was moderna's cofounder and chairman. you can catch the full interview tonight at 7:00 p.m. in london. let's go straight to the bloomberg business flash. here is annabelle droulers in hong kong. >> most fed officials agreed last month that they could start slowing the pace of bond purchases later this year, judging that enough progress has been made towards their inflation goes but the late july minutes from the central bank meeting show they do not have agreement on the timing or pace of tapering asset purchases. -- has reported first-half revenue growth ahead of analyst estimates after the payment processor said customers locked down preferen

100,000 cases a day and that's what we're doing again and we'll get up to 200,000 cases a day as tony, dr. fauci has said. you know, right now we've got to vaccinate as aggressively as possible, and the other thing, pamela, that i'm really concerned about is down here in the south school starts sooner rather than later, so a lot of schools are opening in august in louisiana where the epidemic is the worst, they are already starting next week and that's going to be an accelerant, and so what we really have to start thinking about is also and no one is talking about is vaccine mandates to schools to keep our adolescents safe in the junior high schools, middle schools and high schools, and i think we'll have to be forced to look at that seriously, but a now in addition to the hospitalizations we're seeing pediatric icu admissions going up, pediatric hospitalizations and that will put a lot of pressure on governors to say where are we at with this? at what point does ideology become less important than the future of our children? >> yeah. those numbers going up on pediatric patients is really concer

tony fauci said he backs the idea of covid vaccine mandates for school children, for kids to attend school use of these vaccines in kids under 12. public school district in culver city, california, has gone through with this, mandating shots for staff and students for those eligible. what about vaccines for kids under 12, dr. adalja, and are they going to be necessary? >> so we haven't seen the data yet from the clinical trials but i expect they're going to show that those vaccines to be safe and efficacious in the age group of 5-11. the readout on the data is probably coming in the next two months or so, hopefully by late fall we'll have enough information about whether or not an emergency use authorization can be put into place. i suspect it will be. i think when it comes to schools, the priority of has to be in-person schooling and we do have very high levels of community spread of the delta variant and no children are spared from severe consequences of disease, they're not going to be spared from people trying to put them back into virtual learning. one way to make the school more resi

not to mention what tony just said, what dr. fauci are vaccinated, they don't go to the hospital. there's a huge difference between being vaccinated and not being vaccinated and how likely you are to be hospitalized even if you catch the virus. there's an enormous difference, a 90% difference. we don't need to go through this again. >> louisiana is dealing with the aftermath of hurricane ida. icus there are 80% full. nearly half are covid patients. we also know hospitals in kentucky are overwhelmed by a new all-time high of covid hospitalizations. how worried are you about the strain on our hospitals? i just had a physician from our lady of the lake in louisiana talking about the strain on staff and the system. >> it's a tremendous strain. without the hurricane. with the hurricane, it's a double strain, because some facilities have been shut down and people are being forced to congregate in a time when the virus is rampant. there will be more infections. but even without the hurricane, you go to those states that are low vaccination r

tony. i degree with dr. faucit everybody vaccinated but that's the problem, and we -- you know, the mandates will only get us so far, and i think the public service announcements will only get us so far. there is one thing the biden administration has not done that i think is going to be essential if we're really going to get to that benchmark of stopping transmission and that is we've got to dismantle the disinformation empire. and that's what the biden administration so far has been unwilling to do. you know, they have gone after facebook and social media companies and they're important for the transmission of this and certainly have a role but they've not wanted to take on what i call the three-headed monster, which is the political aggression from the far right, number one. number two, the disinformation dozen identified by the center for countering digital hate. those are non-governmental groups and the third, which surprises some is the russian government launching an aggressive program of weaponized health

dagen: but, we are still getting wonky advice from doctor tony-- doctor dr. anthony faucir schoolchildren in the u.s. there's a school district in san diego requiring masks for children even outside and at the bus stop. doctor, to be clear, the vaccine is not yet recommended for children under 12; correct? >> correct. we might have emergency use authorization by the end of this year, but right now it is 12 years old and not. a vaccines essay lives they can prevent infections, but right now just a 12 and up and as far as wearing a mask outdoors in the blistering heat, i think that isn't necessary with the risk of transmission extremely low especially when it's extremely hot outside. you can come into trouble having children wearing masks outdoors. i don't think that is necessary unless you are literally neck and neck close to other people who potentially have been contaminated with covid. dagen: what i am talking about because again, anthony fauci has been in favor of a masking as well. it just-- i don't even know how you enforce keeping masks on little kids if they are hav