trump doesn't hear it. >> tony schwartz, always appreciate your insights here on our "state of mind"ies. up ahead, person number two in mueller's roger stone indictment speaks out. our cameras caught up with him. it's new and only on "the beat." >>> but first, you know what happened. michael cohen says the new york feds investigating new potential crimes involving trump. david kelly, who ran that office, joins me exclusively when we're back in 30 seconds. ♪ don't fence me in. ♪ let me be by myself ♪ in the evenin' breeze, ♪ listen to the murmur of the tall concrete, ♪ ♪ send me off forever, but i ask you please ♪ ♪ don't fence me in. special offers available at your local mini dealer. >>> when was the last communication with president trump or someone acting on his behalf? do you have a general time frame? >> i would suspect it was within two months post the raid of my home, hotel. >> so early fall of last year, generally? >> this topic is actually something that's being investigated right now by the southern district of new york and i've been asked by them not to discuss it. >> mich

tony schwartz, ghost writer, co-author of "art of the deal."hought was striking, the threat, and how much they're a part of the trump m.o. what did you think of that? >> well, i mean, trump was all over you like a wet blanket no matter who you were, trying to impose his agenda on you in every moment. that was true in my own experience, and it was true watching him. i was thinking today oddly about robert trump, his younger brother, who disappeared off into a farm in upstate new york many years ago. but when i was doing this work was the number two guy at the trump organization. and i just watched him over and over be crushed by donald. >> what do you mean by that? >> just do this -- it's like michael cohen. do this, do that, stop, shut up. you know, interesting, for example, what he said about his own son today. he's got the worst judgment on earth. >> right. >> you know, that donald trump would sell out his own children in one moment if it was him or them to go to prison. >> by the way, the president right now is meeting with kim jong-un in ha

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tony schwartz, thank you so much for coming through tonight. >> thank you. >>that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. we were made for this, my friend. this is what we train for. >> i know. that's exactly right. >> thanks a lot, man. much appreciated. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. as we speak, president trump and the north korean dictator kim jong-un have just had their second televised handshake of the trump presidency. they have headed into what is expected to be a short and technically bilateral meeting between these two leaders. of course, the historic first meeting between president trump and the north korean dictator was eight months ago in singapore. so it's happening right now is their second meeting. so what that means in terms of our experience and the news they're making here is obviously we get to see another round of them shaking hands and exchanging pleasantries. we're seeing them now sitting down together to talk. we are not necessarily expecti