we're joined by tony schwartz. friend of "the beat" co-author of "the art of the deal" and his audio book, dealing with the devil, "my mother, trump and me." what do you think of this bridge where he seemed at least somewhat more aware of the prospect of losing than usual to what he put the country through to this first day of the biden transition today? >> well, 100% predictable, ari. donald trump never surprises. he is who he is. when i first came on your show in 2016, right after the election, i said this is about a man without character. let's put aside everything else. he's a sociopath and he proved that all the way through but never more so than during the last couple of weeks when it was time to concede, of course, he didn't and he attacked democracy. but, you know, it reminds me, ari, about favorite rapper from the '60s, joni mitchell who said don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got until it's gone? pave paradise and put up a parking lot, donald trump, time to go, pull up the parking

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joining us right now is tony schwartz.g with the devil, my mother, trump, and me." and, of course, "the art of the deal." so, tony, the president to announce he is going to run in 2024, what do you make of that? >> totally, plausible. makes sense that that's what he would do. he does not want to lose his -- his ability to reach the public. he wants to be the person who is at the front of -- at the front of the line. and i have no idea if that's, in any way, realistic. you know, one of the things that we're not talking about, anderson, is that this man's going to walk out of office into a flurry of potential criminal indictments. and i don't see this as being gerald ford, you know, pardoning richard nixon. i see this as a time where it is critical that the legal process play out. the legitimate, legal process. and i think there's a very good chance that trump is going to find himself, both indicted and potentially convicted. >> on the day the race was called for president-elect -- president-elect biden tweeted this was, quo

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tony schwartz. he has been with us throughout this trump era and has a new audio book, dealing with the devil, my mother, trump and me. for long-time viewers, tony, this is a special moment. for new viewers or people just checking on the news if people wonder about "the art of deal" that made trump a national figure and avatar, tony was a "new york times" writer and helped co-write that and he's come back later and donated province to organizations and charities and talked about why he's a critic of donald trump having worked so closely to him. i give that back story because here you are for the first time since it was called and donald trump became the loser of this race. your thoughts tonight, tony? >> well, you catch me on a night where my mood is not as buoyant as i hoped i would be at this moment. i expected after the election to feel a sense of tremendous relief that biden had won. i'm finding that i don't. and that the reason is that we do have an autocrat in the white house right now. he's t

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and tony schwartz, founder and ceo of the energy project. he's authorize the author of the audible audio book "dealing with the devil: trump, my mother and me." before we get to the rudiments of the transition and what donald trump is leaving in his wake, just knowing him for psychology and being a biographer of his, what do you think is going on in his refusal to accept defeat and in the people around him coddling that refusal? >> well, those are two different questions. so the first, donald trump lives in a world in which you either are a winner or a loser. if you're a loser, you're a nobody, you're destroyed. and so it's literally impossible for him to accept losing. we will never see him concede. and i certainly doubt very highly that he'll show up at the inauguration. in terms of the coddling of the donald trump, i mean, i think that has multiple reasons, but the emotional -- so i think it may be to try to pump up the republican senate races in georgia. it may be that he -- that they just think that he will come down off of this slowly,

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