president, i -- i would like to speak today on the toomey amendment, toomey amendment number 115. i rise to argue against the toomey amendment. this is an amendment about energy, and as we all know, energy is a strategic resource for us. every member of our armed forces understands this and they understand it well. energy is essential to our national security mission. everybody knows you don't go out there and move in an aggressive way without good, solid energy supplies behind you. and having access to reliable energy supplies to protect our men and women in uniform is just absolutely essential, no matter where they may be in the world. it is critical to our nation that we have these good energy supplies. and each branch of the armed forces recognizes the importance of biofuels as a critical part of our energy needs. our military faces numerous logistical challenges with its dependence on fossil fuels. increasing diversification through investment and alternative fuels will help the military carry out its mission safely. and without the need to rely exclusively on foreign sources

toomey: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from pennsylvania. mr. toomey: mr. president, i call up amendment number 115 which is at the desk. the presiding officer: without objection, the clerk will report. the clerk: the senator from pennsylvania, mr. toomey, proposes amendment number 115 to amendment number 26. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: yes. the senator from ohio. mr. brown: mr. president, thank you. i ask unanimous consent to set aside the pending amendment and call up amendment number 83. ms. mikulski: mr. president, i object. mr. president, in behalf of senator landrieu and myself, i object to the senator's request. the presiding officer: objection is heard. ms. mikulski: mr. president, before we proceed to the debate on toomey, i say to my colleague from ohio, a strong advocate for working people is appreciated. i really, from the standpoint of discussion, do not want to discuss. you've got some excellent ideas that i hope you and the gentlelady who chairs the homeland security subcommittee could talk about how we could reach some t

. >> no, i was going to say, if pat toomey, take pat toomey, good guy, and you and i both like pat toomeyf he votes to continue the -- if he supports a filibuster that stops background checks from getting to the floor for a vote, it will be at his immense peril, krir chris, his immense peril. pat toomey should say, i agree with the president one way, they deserve a vote and i'm voting to end the filibuster. >> i wish toomey would support that monument in shanksville where the plane was brought down because the americans had the guts to take on the terrorists. that's where i disagree with him. on this issue, let's get back to this issue. is your party smart to become the gun party? are you smart to be the gun party? >> i think what the party has done is let harry reid decide what he's going to do and they're going to play this -- they're not going to be either part of it. they're going to say, listen, we'll take a look, see what the democrats come up with. i think they've been skillful, putting my political hat on, i think in some states -- >> let me get down to -- you're so much smarter t

the toomey procedure would be to record all members as they were recorded on the toomey amendment. >> is there an objection? if not, this amendment will be recorded as failing 12-10. the amendment fails. we will move to center sanders -- to senator sanders amendment. >> my amendment would establish a reserve fund to reduce income equality in the country which may include an increase in the minimum wage -- funds to reduce income inequality in the country which may include an increase in the minimum wage. >> i do not think anyone should vote for this who are not paying their intern's minimum wage. if not, we could not use the toomey rule. >> i would like to see people be paid well above minimum wage. we need growth, prosperity and competition for labor. we need to protect our working people from illegal labor and illegal imports. we need to reduce this debt dragging down our economy. i do not believe the standard approach is good -- the sanders approach is good. >> the clerk will call the roll. [roll call] >> the ayes are 12, the nays 12. >> the amendment is agreed to. we will now move

the toomey procedure would be to record all members as they were recorded on the toomey amendment. >> is there an objection? if not, this amendment will be recorded as failing 12-10. the amendment fails. we will move to senator sanders amendment. >> my amendment would establish a reserve fund to reduce income equality in the country which may include an increase in the minimum wage -- funds to reduce income inequality in the country which may include an increase in the minimum wage. >> i do not think anyone should vote for this who are not paying their intern's minimum wage. if not, we could not use the toomey rule. >> i would like to see people be paid well above minimum wage. we need growth, prosperity and competition for labor. we need to protect our working people from illegal labor and illegal imports. we need to reduce this debt dragging down our economy. i do not believe the standard approach is good -- the sanders approach is good. >> the clerk will call the roll. [roll call] >> the ayes are 12, the nays 12. >> the amendment is agreed to. we will now move to the merkley amendm

would we have gotten pat toomey? karl rove supported arlen specter as far back as 2004 against pat toomey thinking he could not win. arlen specter, later, flipped party when it was convenient and bake the 60th vote for obamacare so we need to be careful about what it means to be electable. at least we are winning elections and bringingp new people in the party. we are not in a position where the democrats can jam something through because of the tea party. >> there is no litmus test for the republican main street. i am happy to have anyone who label himself or herself as a republican and wanted to represent the expire country. we are not talking about electing the governor of south carolina or utah. if we want to be a national party we have to look like america. today, we look like we are a bunch of white guys from below the mason dixon line. you have to talk about issues in a way i have to talk about issues. i never read anything in my republican playbook and i have been a republican since the day i was born, that s

would we have gotten pat toomey?ar back as 2004, against pat toomey with the logic that he couldn't win and arlen specter flips party when it was convenient and became the 60th vote for obamacare and we need to be careful, what it means to be electable and certainly the tea party doesn't bat a thousand but at least we're winning elections, we're bringing new people into the party and we're not in a position where the democrats can jam something through 60 votes in the senate because of the tea party. >> i have to tell you, there is no litmus test. i'm happy to have anybody who labels him or herself as a republican and wants to prep e represent the country. we're not talking about the governor of texas or utah, if we want to be a national party we have to look like america. today, we look like a bunch of guys, white guys, from below the mason-dixon line. >> chris: how do you look more like america. >> you have to talk about issues in the way i have to. for instance, i never read anything in my republican play book and

toomey is a strong sleeper. >> dana: i don't know. i think it's too early.process. i'm not worried about the future of the republican party as much as some people are. i think that this is, this is a good time to get all the graphics together. in the first block bob said no one will remember the white house story next week? canceling of the tours. it bet you money that you would find people will remember the white house tour story for a lot longer than anyone will remember what happens at cpac. >> bob: for sure. >> andrea: anyone scare you? >> bob: rand paul worries me very much and most democrats. there is real fear the guy could take off. >> dana: nice try. >> bob: i was trying to be serious. >> dana: i know your body language to well. >> bob: okay. i think rapid paul for america is a good idea -- rand paul for america is good idea. >> andrea: i like the wisconsin governor. walker. i don't think he is at cpac. i don't know. i like him. coming up, surprise move from the pope, the new pope francis this morning in rome. we tell you about his surprise visit up

you had pat toomey saying, we had a wide ranging discussion about fiscal and other issues. think it was a constructive discussion. krystal ball, those comments strike me as the most positive the president could have hoped for coming out of a discussion like that. >> i absolutely agree, and markedly different than what we've heard from republicans over the past several years. if you think about where they are, i mean, for the president, he wants to get past these budget crises and get on with the rest of his agenda. he has a lot of items that he wants to accomplish in the next four years and a short amount of time to do it. republicans are also leery of focusing their message on what they want to cut. eric cantor and others have said they don't want to be the party of no, they don't want to be the party of austerity, they also want another message. listening to those notes of warmth between the two sides, i have to say like nia-malika, i am cautiously optimistic. >> i want to go back to who paid for this lunch. there are problems for everybody above. our nbc news report says

melissa: senator toomey, thanks so much for coming on. >> thanks for having me. melissa: so it is a bull run on wall street but are the bears getting ready to crash the party? or will the market hang on to these gains? we have our money power panel to spell it out. james freeman, assistant editor on the ws jet editorial page. david waddle, ceo of waddle associates and global market strategist, uri mann is with us. let me start with you. what do you think? are the real fundamentals behind this or is this just the fed at work? >> no. this is, there are no fundamentals behind this. the real economy is definitely stumbling here on life-support and the life-support here is the free money that the federal reserve is printing just like you said. if it wasn't for this money, the profits that these corporations are reporting would just evaporate overnight. so there are just too many bubbles that are affecting the economy today and there's a very good chance that the stock market is going to fall at least five to 10% in the next three months. and it's not just the printing

pat toomey from pennsylvania and, of course, marco rubio. we brought diversity. we brought energy and most ideasantly i think we brought because we are color blind. if you want to come to the senate and offer a plan to balance the budget we will support you. put your ideas on the table. that is what is lacking in the whole debate. >> i got to say sadly what they also brought us as harry reid as the major leader continuing in the senate. if you looked at the nevada race, sharon engel and richard murdoch in indiana and i forget the name, the witch in delaware. >> chris: kristine o'donnell. >> thank you. we could have functional control of the united states senate. >> chris: there were a lot of establishment republican candidates who went down in the last the election, too. >> went down from the standpoint that they lost to democrats unlike some of these mr. murdoch for instance. we are supposed to wonder chris richard murdoch, indiana. >> why we don't have the women's vote when we have a candidate suggesting that a child born as a result of rape is a gift from god.

pat toomey, he's in a state where he should be on the side of gun control.deology puts him against it. it's awkward for senators. that's why they signed up for the job and ran and are one of the 100 special people in the senate. i believe for a moment harry reid's deal he made in january can do anything to stop it. this is the reason people wanted harry reid to do real filibuster reform. another reason him not doing it was a major, major mistake. >> john, your organization, votevets.org, has a new commercial out that maybe rand paul and some of the others should see. so let's play a clip of it. >> i had to pass a background check to join the marine corps before i could carry a weapon similar to this one in iraq. here at home, anyone can purchase this weapon no questions asked. >> really powerful. you know, you have served two tours in iraq. you had to undergo background check in order to carry that weapon. what is your take on this discussion about whether or not we should have to do background checks? >> well, they're going to try to filibuster. i mean, we

. >> i although would have to see pat toomey in pennsylvania, who i actually like and i think he can be reasonable on so many issues. if pat toomey doesn't sign on to background checks, he won bay point and a half in a big republican year, 2010. he is dead in the philadelphia suburbs, deader than a doornail. >> i the thing is i think that newtown forced people in the suburbs, in the safe suburbs, to finally confront the issue that gun violence can touch them, too. that it can even touch children. it was such a shakeup, i don't think it's temporary. it's so shocking, people in the inner city are dealing with gun violence every day. but newtown shocked the conscience, aurora did as well. newtown, especially so because it was kids. if we can't get gun control now, i would think we probably can't get it at all. >> what's a hopeful sign for the future of gun safety? the fact that chris christie and shaquille o'neal were together, that's the photo. which is incredible even regardless of the fact that they're talking about gun buy-back programs. the height differential is massive-o, a lot t

meanwhile senator pat toomey gave attendees a revisionist history lesson as to who was responsible for the economic recession. >> the fact is the policies that got us into this mess were the policies of a big government, liberal policies of failed monetary policy and encouraging lending to people who couldn't pay loans back. it was the left that got us into this mess. that's a fact. >> and the keynote speaker this year? the future of the party and official ghost of joseph mccarthy summoner, ted kcruz, wo is hell-bent on revisiting the past with his vote to defund president obama. he follows in the proud tradition of past keynote speakers. last year, it was sarah palin. in 2011, allen west, in 2010, glen beck and before that, rush limbaugh. thought leaders? not exactly. the republican party is facing an identity crisis said gop pollster, deceive lombardo. but not that the party doesn't know who it is. it's that the party knows exactly who they are and they don't want to move from a very rigid, defined identity. when the party finds itself out of the mainstream on almost every issue, est

but you've got other guys who i think are very -- pat toomey is a fiscal expert.yotte, fiscal and military expert. ron johnson, a fiscal expert. these guys were at the obama dinner that night, which i approve heartily. and i think they are part of the new leadership. and i think john mccain is way too hard on these guys. >> look, it was not a good moment for john mccain. this is what happens all the time, in fairness to john mccain. you have senators who have been there for a long time starkts to get a little older, in their 70s and 80s, and you have the younger guard come up. and it's good, healthy for a party -- >> he's a great american. >> sure. >> he's a personal friend. >> of course. >> i just don't think he's in the flow. he's not in the swing of things the way the new crowd operates. >> that's my point. it's not personal or particular to john mccain. it's as you get older and you have this older guard it's tie to make way. he overreacted. he got very upset. it looked like one of those get off my lawn moments. you remember that dana carvey sketch in the '80s

can you get a group of senators, maybe this group, you and toomey and marco and the others, to get thisrowth bill going in the senate? >> i am passionately in favor of tax reform. and i think we need to dramatically simplify the tax code, reduce the burden, both the corporate tax code and the personal tax code. both cases, you know, every year the cost of tax compliance is over $500 billion. >> yep. >> i mean, that's as much as we spend on the pentagon. >> get rid of the loopholes. if the rate is low enough, you don't need loopholes. the incentive will kick in. >> that's exactly right. i would like for every individual to fill out his taxes on a postcard. and that $500 billion is all dead weight lost. as we say in texas, it doesn't produce a single truck oratortia. >> i thought you were going to say all hat and no cattle. i thought that's what you were going to say -- president bush used to say that. how about we get a lower marginal tax rate, individuals and corporations, tied to a sound dollar? now that is 4 to 5% economic growth. >> i think you're exactly right. we've seen qe infinit

and senator pat toomey of pennsylvania described it as good, constructive conversation. the white house says the president picked up the check, but the republicans say they went dutch. >>> positive news about the economy pushed the dow to its second straight record close. wall street traders -- stocks yesterday. the average gained another 42 points but the nasdaq slipped nearly two. asian markets are mixed in today's trading. with japan's index at a four-year high. >>> the city of new orleans will always be special for the baltimore ravens and their fans because the team won the super bowl there last month. >> new orleans is just special period. >> it is. >> so the team has donated two new harley davidson motorcycles to the new orleans police department traffic division. jacoby jones was there to make the donation. >> last time we saw him in new orleans, he was returning the super bowl second half kickoff for a touchdown. >> i'm getting the feeling those guys could speed at will. nobody would ever say that, but come on. >> yeah, those guys have nothing slowing them down.

amendment 115, that upon disposition of the toomey amendment, the senate then proceed to vote on the mikulski-shelby substitute amendment, as amended; that upon disposition of the substitute amendment, the senate proceed to the cloture vote on the underlying bill. finally, cloture is invoked, 30 hours postcloture begin to run as if cloture were invoked at 1:00 a.m. wednesday, march 20. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection, so ordered. mr. reid: i note the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: the presiding officer: mr. leader. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent that the call of the quarrel vitiated. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: i ask that the senate proceed it 00 period of morning business with senators allowed to speak up to ten minutes each. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed to s. res. 81. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: s. res. 81, commemorating march 19, 2013, as the 40th anniversary of national a

. >> senator pat toomey says the goal wa is providing possibility for the president to agencies like the pentagon to carry out more strategically. >> he can go on the defense side, he can go to his agency and department heads on the nondefense side and say you have been used to budgets that keep growing and growing, that is what has been happening. >> some republicans and democratic leadership do not want to give the executive ranch more power to move money. >> republicans should give flexibly to cut wastefulness, flexibility to ask the richest of the rich to contribute a little bit more. instead they have completely been inflexible. >> a plan that included new revenue have to be nonpartisan budget office said it would actually increase deficits by $7.2 billion over the next decade. it failed 51-49. meanwhile in interview for an upcoming fox documentary, the senate republican leaders is facing another deadline shouldn't have gotten to this point. >> there's n there is no reasonn 11th hour deal. why are we here? why are we here? at the 11th hour. no more 11th hour deals. >> predicting

senator toomey one of many senators invited to the jefferson hotel in washington.t of the republican senators who attended. then today, representative paul ryan, of course, the vice presidential nominee. the budget committee chairman at lunch along with chris van hollen on the set last knight. speaker of the house is optimistic, but maybe not too optimistic. >> now he is going to -- after being in office now for four years he is actually going to sit down and talk to members. that is a sign, hopeful sign, i'm hopeful that something comes out of it. but if the president incysts on tax hockeys we aren't going to get far. if the president doesn't believe we have a spending problem i don't know that we ole get far. but i'm optimistic. >> bret: bring in the panel. jason riley, editorial member of the "wall street journal." a.b. stoddard from the hill. sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. jason, welcome back. your thoughts on the outreach? >> i think the president is scared. he is on the offensive. poll numbers are down a little bit. "wall street journal" poll said t

joining us from washington senator pat toomey in pennsylvania who attended a meeting with president obama late last night. so, take me through this meeting. who was there? when did you know about it? and what happened? >> well, i guess there were a dozen republican senators. we -- plans just got finalized early yesterday or maybe late the day before. we went there. the president was there with his chief of staff. >> bill: where were you? >> we were at a hotel. i think it's the jefferson hotel in washington. >> bill: right. >> yeah, the president was very cordial. everyone was cordial. we had a candid conversation. most of it was around fiscal issues. the president listened to every one of the republican senators made several comments. and the president -- he was engaged. he was paying attention. >> bill: this is is a departure. this hasn't really happened for a long time, correct? >> nothing like this has ever happened since i have been in the senate. >> can i, senator, with all due respect take credit for this? since, you know, we have been absolutely pounding on him this week as you pro

and suddenly pennsylvania senator pat toomey is attacking cuts in his local army depot. so when the chickens come home to roost, it's a different story. >> right. reverend, what you're saying, this is politics unusual. all of a sudden they've realized that because they've let the sequestration stall where it is today, they are actually feeling the pain back in their home districts. that's not news. that's something they should have known before going into this. but what e.j. is saying is that when we start looking at our budget priorities and what we decide to cut as americans and the fact that, sure, paul ryan is saying that the biggest thing is we need a smaller government but he's asking middle america to sacrifice and that's not a social contract. that's not a functioning government. what we need to do is say a lot of grassroot mob by llie zags a that the young kid doesn't get laid off. >> e.j., they reached out at republicans again today to make a deal on the budget. list sej to put forth a balanced approach that includes smart spending cuts and new revenue and that

. >> there were benign comments but putt toomey's speech, here he is discussing his version of the 2008s. >> the fact is the policies that got us into this mess are the policies of a big government, the failed monetary policy and encouraging lending to people who couldn't pay loans back. it's the left that got us into this mess. >> john: the only way the left got us into this mess is if you want to blame roosevelt for making glass-steagall which was repealed decades later. how did the left get us into this mess? >> the right will always look for an excuse to blame the left. it's as if bush never happened. everything that happened during bush that was bad was clinton's fault. anything-- >> john: we can give clinton credit for the repeal of glass-steagall. sucking up to the right is not being left. >> the senator you saw was a pin for billionaires for decades pouring vast amounts of money into senate races all over the country to elect the most conservative corporatist members of the body they could. >> i just think it speaks to the irony of all of these wall street folks who are you know

. >> sarah palin jumped in early and supported rand paul, marco rubio, tim scott, pat toomey, jeff blakend myself. >> let's bring in our thursday political power panel. karen hunter, chip saltzman, good to see both of you. chip, this ad comes after palin's cpac speech. is this about palin lining himself up for political comeback or is it more about keeping herself relevant? >> i think it may be a little bit both. i'm not going to try to second guess sarah palin because i usually guess wrong. the one thing she says is i'm here and i'm going to play in primaries and general elections. her rate of primary elections has been pretty good. >> from a democratic perspective, is it a good thing sarah palin is billing herself as the future of the gop? >> i love it. i absolutely love it. i think it's great, you know? they took a straw poll at cpac. did she make the top five? >> no. >> as far as being a queen maker, she couldn't do that for herself and mccain. i love sarah palin being in this, yes. >> but the ad itself seems a little odd. i guess the timing of it. why now? >> as we're getting into t

included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> the fact of the matter is the white house is changing how they're doing their outreach. this is different. almost everyone admitted after the dinner that it was more productive because the republican leadership was not in the room. in an interview with speaker boehner, who doesn't want to lose his job, pretty much agreed. >> so no more big top down deals, no more obama-boehner top-down deals or really -- >> those haven'

and our senator here know pat toomey is a good guy. is he going to vote so we don't even get a vote on common sense legislation? >> it is interesting. the mayors against illegal guns are out with a new ad. we know that gabby giffords and her husband said it is so easy to go through background check to get a firearm in their state. but you have this cbs news poll that shows support for gun control laws now at 47%. right after newtown, 57%. again, going back to perspective. is 100 days a long period of time or are people expecting too much too soon? you can look at it both ways. nevertheless, what is the next strategy for the president and the white house? we saw his emotions tick up. we saw the families again. what is the next strategy? is it to continue to take it on the road? you mentioned denver. >> again, taking it on the road and as well, bringing it back to the white house. during the time the congress is back in session, before the vote and while they're still out. and you have to remember as well. you have something that is real

richard burr, tom coburn, pat toomey, to name just a few of those who will be at the dinner tonight.rms of what gets accomplished, i don't expect a deal from a grand bargain, but, look, there's no ticking time bomb. there is no stark deadline that they are trying to meet for a fiscal fight, which is really different from what we have seen in past weeks. so this really gives them the opportunity to have some type of conversation on these issues that have so starkly divided them. as you point out, it comes against the backdrop of president obama not reaching out enough to lawmakers on the hill, and also against the backdrop of house speaker john boehner saying he's not planning to negotiate with president obama moving forward. so, there is some hope this will begin to move the conversation forward. president obama will be on the hill next week, and my sources here at the white house say that we can continue to expect to see this type of outreach from the president. chris? >> perhaps the beginning of a beginning happening tonight at the jefferson hotel. we showed the picture of it. that

instead, the president is talking to tea party folks like ron johnson and pat toomey without the normalon. now, here is what could be on the political menu. the main course is reportedly budget issues, but the president could add some sides like immigration reform and gun control. you guys want to talk about that. at the same time, the president meets with willing republicans, there are new signs of obstruction just down the street. this is live. you are looking live at senators ron paul, ted cruz, john cornyn, and also senator lee as they stage an old-fashioned fill buster to block the president's nomination of john brennan, cia director. they've been talking for almost nine hours straight so far. and then of course there is karl rove, who says the president's bipartisanship is actually an evil plot to take over congress in 2014. >> the second term is a political legacy. that means you then deal with all of these issues from a political perspective. not from a perspective of how do we resolve them, be how do we use them politically. that's not good for the country. >> yeah, carl, how d

pat toomey will have a tough re-election no matter who runs against him.ve one. kelly ayotte is from a real state which is always purple, that's new hampshire. there are some people that want to know what a general election looks like. it'll be good for them to sit down with the president? >> it will be very good for them to sit down with the president. but the environment, the jefferson is not the place you want to develop relationships. he should have taken them to the white house. taken them on a tour of the white house. >> they are so neutral territory. >> this is the way you look at things, the new journalists today. what in the world besides metaphor does neutral territory mean? it's a metaphor. what does it mean neutral? how is a hotel more neutral than meeting at the white house? >> i think there are a lot of neutral things going on here. number one, graham is the one who assembled this group. and the other being the white house extended the invitations. it's away from the white house. it's in d.c. obviously this is a really swanky hotel. >> i woul

she supported marco rubio, jim scott, pat toomey, nicki haley, jeff fisher, jeff blake and myself. >>ion is 20 months away. the last thing we need is washington, d.c., vetting our candidates. >> i would not be in the u.s. senate today if it were not for governor sarah palin. >> jason, what's the point? >> i think it's a great ad. and i think it's a good commercial for sarah palin. look, she's out there trying to make sure that she stays relevant and that's really important for somebody who hasn't served in office for several years, who actually had a bad record of endorsing candidates in 2010. the issue is sarah palin she's a bit old hat. she's, like, boy bands and "desperate housewives" and she's not that relevant today, but i think it was an important part of the process. >> amy, what do you think? >> i would agree with that she's trying to stay in the mix. sarah palin is able to chip up crowds and raise a lot of money and was very influential in the last two election cycles in her support. i think of nicki haley, for example, in south carolina, if you remember the momma grizzly bea

toomey: mr. president, to further follow up on further clarification here, if the administration seems to be unwilling to state unequivocally that they recognize that they do not have the legal authority to kill a noncombatant american on american soil, did they suggest under what circumstances they would? did they suggest a process by which they would idea an american citizen, noncombatant on american soil that might be subject to being killed by a drone strike? mr. paul: well, mr. president, there has been a white paper that was released that goes through a series of things. they do have a step or a process they go through in determining who to kill. the problem i have is that in foreign countries, i don't know the exact number because it's classified, but in foreign countries, many of the people being killed aren't actively engaged in combat. and i'm not saying that's right or wrong or making an opinion on that, but i'm saying that's not a standard i can live with in the united states, so let'

and today senator pat toomey sending support to senator rand paul, for next time.aul. and yesterday senator paul was spotted eating milky ways duri during the speech. and justin bieber fainted during back stage at a concert and given oxygen and finished the concert before going to the hospital and moments ago bieber tweeted getting better and thanks for everyone for pulling me through. figuring out what happened, thanks for the love. and posting a picture of himself in the hospital. it looks like he's doing much better. and "the view" is leading one of the leading ladies. joy behar departing the view and contract will not be reviewed. her departure will leave barbara walters as the large original member of ""the view." they have been on the show since the 1997 premier. finally, a washington d.c. weather man taking heat for predicting the snow that never came. and demarco says nobody put baby in the corner, tucker barnes was put in timeout after yesterday's forecast. and nobody said that weather forecasting was a perfect science. it's your time to hash it out. use h

toomey. >> that's quite a list. here to talk about it are my guests.an when she goes down that list, it's pretty effective. she did endorse a lot of winners. jamal? >> yeah. but she is a political reality tv star. she is not actually i think a relevant person to the process. jay-z and beyonce go out and endorse candidates and do events. that doesn't make them people you necessarily want to have lead the country or participate in serious policy debates. >> i think she was nowhere before sarah palin came in and endorsed her. she is still a relevant force and having this pac i think will determine the next two years whether she can stay there. this is the first step. >> we're hitting the part of the cycle where her influence is probably as big as it's going to bement we're going into a mid-term election. these tend to be low turnout elections. this is all about getting out your base. that is what sarah palin excels at. >> in primaries. i mean we're talking about effective primaries. general election not so much. but in a primary you have five or six candi

. >> reporter: another republican- - pat toomey of pennsylvania-- said the smart way is to rule out taxes and let the president decide the best way to implement spending cuts. >> it's not necessary if we pass this legislation because it would give the president the flexibility to cut the items, that would not be disruptive to our economy, not be disruptive in any meaningful way. >> reporter: the white house rejected that idea out of hand. spokesman jay carney called it "the worst of all worlds." >> this bill is an effort to shift the focus away from the need for the congress to work toward a bipartisan compromise that would avoid sequestration. >> reporter: in the end, neither side could get the 60 votes needed to bring up its bill. the stalemate guaranteed the sequester will take effect before tomorrow ends. at the same time, the top house and senate leaders are due to meet with the president, at the white house. it will be their first formal discussion on the matter. >> sreenivasan: wall street mostly marked time today, in the run-up to the federal budget cuts. the dow jones industria

pat toomey, the senator from pennsylvania who i like as a person and who's shown some willingness toperate with the president on budget issues. you know that 90% of pennsylvanians are for universal background checks, are you when the time comes to get that vote, are you going to put up a no vote on universal background checks? you do so at your own peril. no ifs, ands, buts about it. >> do you think, governor that a well-mobilized army like this that is strategically used could be the beginning of others learning how to do this and set a whole new pattern in american politics? >> well, it could, reverend. but understand, a lot of these people are deeply committed to the president. it's the president's leadership. the big test of whether he's changed politics, and you hit it on the head, is after the president is out of office. will ofa still exist? will it help the next president if the next president is a progressive? will it stay in operation? or was it just wedded towards this one very charismatic, remarkable man? >> all right, governor ed rendell and celinda lake, great to have y