person to person interview by market truman -- by margaret truman of her parents.hey come across as plain folks will stop >> they were and they value that. they like a good laugh. they were normal people. she was not popular when he left the white house. it took many years for his reputation to be reestablished. >> barber summary people going >> why were so-- many people going to see them? >> he was a hometown hero. they probably thought they go walk up and say hello to the truth as they had in the past. postw did they spend their white house years and they were long was? >> he wrote his memoirs. he never received pension. he needed the money. bess edited every word. that was their project. >> he was intimate to the library. it was a matter of history. he did in the original design himself will stop -- himself. >> if you visit there today you can see the office. one of the striking things is a looks out of his future gravesite. >> the great story what he said i can see bess is going to lay next to me and i will say one day i can see myself a seeing like going to th

who is harry truman grex even his own mother was nervous. >> host: what about bes truman? how did she get there so quickly? seven she is with him there. i don't know. but roosevelt he approved him for vice president and thought it was a good idea saw in washington he was well known but not a household word and roosevelt had known him for 13 years he was just a fixture so the idea of his declining and people did not understand that he could not walk. >> that was kept well hidden >> so the roosevelts in the white house 13 years the longest and the president has been there how does that happen? >> because of his condition and also mrs. roosevelt's nature as you saw the light to have everything around them all the time. they were tabled people and had tables in his things are in easy reach but just as thousands, pitchers, imagine what determines faced with the squares of the wall with the carcass taken up and the transition was they had a little apartment in town and they took the piano. >> host: did they move immediately? >> determines thought they could stay in their apartme

truman, that was the easiest thing to do, but george built the walls, and truman wouldn't hear it. it was gutted, but the stone walls were never touched, and, in fact, they wanted to take a bulldozer in through the door, and they were going to open it up with pix axes, and he saw them, said, stop, and they took it down and reassembled them in the cellars of the house, and the hoys was rebuilt in steel and concrete. the walls, backing of three feet, and is this doing -- nyway, that's a steel frame inside, eight inches from the original stone walls, and each room is a cage. when it was finished, it was believed to be bombproof. and they moved over to blare house where they lived most of the time, and they loved it, had the blare things in it, never decorated, anything like that. >> for a moment. >> he consulted with beth, but because why was this not done in the first term? it was falling down then. they were convinced somehow the press would blame the trumans for bringing down the white house, and so they waited until he was reelected to tackle this project. >> did living in the bla

truman's politics. much so that truman appoints her to the first american delegation to the united nation to get her out of the country. >> she lives in new york city a lot. she stays in a place in greenwich village, right in the village, an apartment. ends up in a sheraton hotel for a while. back to sheraton to try to get a house in manhattan. but eventually retreats back to val kill. >> you both talked about how she used val kill as a political meeting ground. here's a little bit of the public eleanor roosevelt at val kill. >> this is val kill college. the building that operated formally as a furniture factory after the death of fdr. she turned this into her primary residence. that's when it was named val kill cottage. these are the steps and the entrance way that mrs. roosevelt and numerous world figures such as john f. kennedy, nikita khrushchev and other notables would have entered the home with mrs. roosevelt. the desk there is where she worked on her my day column. some of her books, magazine art

constantly reading and talking about it. >> the book on harry truman. he talks about the last 20 years, went home, and sat there and read all the time. i remember i went to see that home and they asked me if i'd like to see a list of all of the books and they gave me a list of the 2,000 books that are still in that house. where did harry truman get in there. he was the last guy to be president. he did not have a college degree. >> he loved reading it as a child. the mother encouraged the habit. he's engrossed as a reader. they could be having an argument and the world could come to an end and harry truman won't look up until they get to the bottom of the page. he spends $5 on a set of mark twain books on a time when they had a lot of must be and read the twain books and loved them a great deal. but i wonder if that point about him not going to college made him feel he had to read in order to keep up with all of the brainy harvard yale types that were in washington. >> did you come across a president that started reading on his own rather than having a f

because truman. roosevelt's position took a pro british empire position right away winston churchill was one of his biggest allies convinced about the necessity to take on the soviets as well as the old hard line so. you were. going on this rollercoaster and it just got worse and worse and we have a minute left but you guys point to figures in history like kennedy gorbachev moments in time that were completely squandered and you guys posed the question. when these moments. and take the right course of history what do you think that answer is i think the answer is if everybody who watches untold history and reason our book that's why we wrote this because we want we know that that. to say the curve of the ball can break differently in different situations especially after the world series and we have to be ready we have to learn the lessons of the past learn where we messed up in the past learn why we made the mistakes of the past and begin to think differently we've got to begin to envision the under

truman would say i -- it is my life and i am not possible today. independent. >> it depends on the woman. if she wanted to get involved, women are so much more out now than they were then. the 1940's and 90 victims. choose our own woman. >> thank you to both of you. -- and the 1950's. -- she was her own woman. -- thank you to both of you. we appreciate your time. thank you to the white house historical association and partners as to the folks at the truman library in the truman house and independence for their help with the video tonight. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> next week on first ladies, mimi eisenhower. share limited relations with the nape -- with the press. she took charge of running the white house and conducting inspections and improving all of may use for berger setting number of state visits. -- menus for a record-setting number of state visits. on november 4, will be live inside the eisenhower farm. purchased in 1950, they spend their time for the r

and by august she is so frustrated with truman that she begins a full port quest on truman's politics much so that truman appoints her to the united nations to get her out of the country. >> and she lives in new york city a lot. she stays in a place in greenwich village, an apartment out of the sherton hotel. back to the village. back to the hotel. and then tried to get a house in manhattan but eventually retreats back to valkill. >> you both talked about how she used valkill as a meeting ground. here's a little bit of eleanor at valkill. >> this is valkill cottage, the building that was a furniture factory after the death of f.d.r. mrs. roosevelt turned this into her primary residence. d that's when it was named valkill cottage. this is the room where many other notables would have entered the home with mrs. roosevelt. the desk here is where she worked on her my day column. some of her book, magazine articles and tremendous corns with the american public. and of course, that's the desk with the misspelled name tag. he crafted the item in his shop class sflog idea that she misspelled

written about, bipartisan, how harry truman picked hoover to run the hoover commission. and people don't do that anymore. and the fact is that fdr said, i'm going to pick the guy i just beat. and i was afraid of him a bit. i'm going to make him my emissary to europe. three, two -- >> he had a famous dinner with wilke the night before his third inauguration. he stayed up until midnight talking, having a few glasses of wine, and gave him a hand-written note as his emissary. wilke went over there, saw what was pledge was going to london, came back, and made an impassioned plea for lease, and it passed, and fdr gave him full credit for it. >> if he survived, he didn't have good health. dead pretty much four years. if he would have survived, the republican party might be a different party if he had won in '48. >> it might very well have. but by supporting len lease, he probably ruined his chances to get that nomination in '44, as you point out. he was ill, so that precluded it.

where did harry truman get his? he was the last guy to be president who did not have a college degree. >> he loved reading as a child. his mother encouraged the habit. it became very engrossed as a reader. his daughter said they could be having an argument and harry wouldn't look up until he got to the bottom of the page. he spent something like $5 on a set of mark twain books at the time when that was a lot of money and he read them and loved them a great deal. but i wonder if that point about him not going to college made him feel like he had to read in order to keep up with all the brainy harvard-yale types who were in washington. >> did you come across any president who started reading on his own rather than having a family that read? >> lincoln clearly. lincoln did not have huge family influences in reading. in fact his father criticized him for his reading. so lincoln really came to it himself and it shaped him and helped him come up from his poor hard scrabble upbringings and really is the one story of a pres

in the end, it was the korean war that brought truman's efforts to an end.n lyndon johnson signed medicare into law 20 years later, it was the efforts of harry truman he credited with making it possible. in the early 1970s, senator ted kennedy worked behind the scenes with president richard nixon to find a compromise national health care plan. nixon was facing the usual opposition from the usual suspects and kennedy dreamed of a single payor system. but compromise seemed within reach. >> the purpose of this program is simply this -- i want america to have the finest health care in the world. >> but on the very day in 1974 that nixon sent a message to congress proposing a comprehensive national health insurance plan, the house of representatives voted to investigate him over the watergate scandal. the kennedy/nixon talks ended, the nixon presidency ended and the issue of national health care didn't come to the forefront for another two decades. >> nothing is more important than ensuring every american has comprehensive health care benefits that can never be t

next week, it's bess truman. going to leave you this week with a little bit of eleanor roosevelt from 1953 talking about what it means in her view to be a liberal, we thank doug brinkley and alita black. >> thank you. >> this is a -- you have been -- become known as the leader of what is loosely called the liberal movement in this country or what used to be called the liberal movement. some people call them do-gooders and the rest of it? could you define a liberal for us? >> it's very hard to put in a few words what a liberal is. a person who kept an open mind, was willing to meet new questions with new solutions, and thought that you could move forward you didn't have to always look backwards and be afraid of moving forward. >> next week, first lady bess truman. unlike her predecessor, eleanor roosevelt, she did not hold press conferences, she refused media requests, and she spent much of her time as first lady back home in independence, missouri. when she was just 5 years old, she met her future husband, harry

and rose mary truman, ceo of advanced innovations. and ron ire an entrepreneur at nih.ave the same question for all three of you which is basically you're all working to try to transform science into medical products that will help people. how are we doing? is there science that could help people that is being left behind on the lab bench so to speak and is not getting to people? >> absolutely. and that's one of the most frustrating parts of our job. so in any discussion that we do, that we make, regarding innovations, we need to put it in the context of the mission of research and academia, which is creating new ideas and opening the ideas to the public as soon as possible. and so the mission is that our innovations come through and they're sitting there. >> and the challenge then is how do you get that to turn into a -- >> how do we get into it into a stage that it will be effective for the general public. >> and rose mary, you spent a big part of your career working with nih and working with industry. what are you seeing? you know, is there a lot that is being left b

was it fdr, truman, jfk or nixon?nswer is, richard nixon, who made the change back in 1971. >>> all right. we got some more questions for you this morning in our "first buzz." first up with that, what do you have, bill? >> public policy polling, let's play a game. do you have a higher opinion of congress or blank? are you ready? >> these are what you think the answers are. >> congress or miley cyrus? >> oh, congress. >> miley cyrus. >> congress by 15%. very good. congress or twerking? >> twerking. >> twerking? congress won again by 4%. how about another one here? congress or dog doo-doo? >> i'm going to go with congress. >> dog doo-doo by 7%. >> i thought there was a trend here, bill. >> if congress wants to feel good about themselves, congress did beat vladimir putin and anthony weiner, so they have that. >> scientific right there. >> you're going to put the silent treatment on a lot of people now. >> it's friday, we might as all go out to enjoy the weekend. there's a restaurant that says, if you're coming to my rest

you don't know with truman capote what's real and what's not. he claimed later that everything was real except i think the last chapter, which was a little odd because the last chapter is probably the most artificial of all the chapters and the most dead and seems the most real, you know. so, it's hard to say what's... . c-span: so what's your claim when it comes to your book? >> guest: well, here is what i took from that was that there is, you know, the sheer power in the way he manipulated scenes, you know, the sheer -- the technical aspects of narrative, you know. that's about all i can get from truman capote in that book, because you just don't know anything. you don't know what he used and what he had access to. so what i came around to finally was -- ok, i've got a lot of material about what happens before these killings, what happens afterwards, theories about what happens during the killings. it occurred to me that, you know, if you were to watch a trial on court tv, let's say -- obviously the trial begins on one day and ends on another.

>> next week, first lady bess truman. unlike her predecessor, eleanor roosevelt, she did not hold press conferences, she refused media requests, and she spent much of her time as first lady back home in independence, missouri. when she was just 5 years old, she met her future husband, harry who was 6. she got married 30 years later. despite her reputation as a silent partner, president truman nicknamed her the boss. she helped to edit speeches when he was a senator and earned a salary in his office. a look at the life of bess truman on first ladies influence and image on c-span and c-span 3 as well as c-span radio. >> thomas donahue said his organization has not made a decision about challenging democrats in 2014. this is event is hosted by the "christian science monitor." it's an hour. >> thanks for coming. bruce johnston, the chamber's executive vice president of governmental affairs. the chamber is the world not for profit business. we welcome him back. mr. donahue led the chamber since 1997. he served for 13 years as

i didn't catch what she said. >> caller: i heard carl truman. we are going to move on to a net in hayward, california. and that, after you. >> caller: good afternoon. mr. atkinson, as i just heard recently a short 12 lock and i started with the first look, an army at dawn. i just want to say how much i appreciate what a great writer you are to succeed we can clearly get the overall picture and then with carrot there and personalities, the drama of the situation. >> guest: thanks very much. i appreciate that. >> host: is that it? no questions? >> guest: on her face but page, michael posts i would like to hear mr. atkinson's take on the broad front versus single sold press debate. does he think that eisenhower spread for a strategy with the most expedient way for a single bolt dressed of the possibility of shortening the war but they did to this comment is eisenhower make a mistake in not trying to take berlin. ask others a lot there. i'll try to be sustained. that issue is hotly debated at the time. it was hotly debated in the years after the war

. >> joining us is truman heintz, a former army intelligence captain and drone pilot.oining us by skype is the dean of aviation and public services at utah university. in our google hangout is trevor tim an activist with the electronic freedom foundation, and steve, a drone pilot and the superintendent of shark, an animal protection group. pierre, you are an army intelligence captain and a drone pilot, and really there are so many other uses. give us the 101 on the vast array of drones. >> sure, lisa. number one they come in all shapes and sizes, so they could be as small as the size of your hand or as big as a 737 bowing. >> wow. >> they can fly for minutes or days on end. and thirdly, the sen source you put on them. you can have full-motion imaging or just to detect heat. in the military we use them number 1 for lethal purposes, but that's a small sliver of what the military uses drones for. in most cases we're using them to gather intelligence. so as we transition, i think we'll see that drones can be used for firefighting, for search and rescue, and border patrol,

and that's the beginning of their formal courtship in 1910. >> beth truman, as we continue series. are as part of our marker profile series, c-span said down with west virginia democrat senator joe manchin who discussed his political career, his time in the senate, the legacy of his up inessor and growing farmington, west virginia. this is about half an hour. >> senator joe manchin. democrat of west virginia. you are a true native. >> absolutely. >> where were you born? >> the hospital closest to my home town of farmington. that was where i was raised and grew up. >> how many brothers and sisters? >> two brothers and two sisters. there are five of us. i have about 20 cousins. we were raised really close together. and my grandparents were called momma and poppa. it was mayberry. >> what were your parents like and did you talk politics? >> we talked about it. it was a part of life. it wasn't something i desired to be in. i enjoyed being around it. my uncle was a flamboyant politician. he was the youngest house of delegates number -- member back in 1947 or 1948, he was elected. 1948.

. >> the courtship of beth wallace and harry truman began here at her home in independence, missouri. >> when my grandfather visited independence, this is in 1910, he often stayed across the street at the nolan house which is where his aunt and his two cousins lived. one afternoon he was over there with his cousins and the family and his aunt brought in a cake plate that my great-grandmother madge gates wallace had given her a cake and mrs. non-had cleaned the cake plate and asked if anyone would take it back. moved at ther speed of light, grabbed a plate and came over here and rang the bell in the hope that my grandmother would answer the door and she did. she invited him in and that is the beginning of their courtship in 1910. >> beth truman as we continue .ur series on first ladies the remarks from former secretary of state hillary clinton. she spoke recently at a center for american progress conference. [applause] birthday.appy it is exciting for me to come at the end of what has been, by all accounts, a fabulously stimulating and exciting day, filled with leaders and thinkers abo

truman, jfk or richard m. nixon? the answer when "early today" returns. >>> before the break we asked which u.s. president changed the celebration of the columbus day national holiday from october 12 to the second monday in october? and the answer is richard m. nixon. he made the change in 1971. cake walk in the deciding game in the american league division deciding series. justin verlander no-hitter. into the seventh inning. then this single for oakland. take a look. they get the single, but that's it, tigers win 3-0. off to the championship series for the third straight year. >>> nfl thursday, the giants eli manning leads the league now in interceptions. three last night makes 15 total. on the flip side jay cutler connects for two touchdowns. chicago wins 27-21. new york is 0-6 for the first time since the 1976 team. college football, number eight louisville against unranked rutgers, cardinals quarterback teddy bridgewater was middling, but did connect for two touchdowns, rutgers loses 24-10. minnesota's maya moore

gee, they'll say, it is a shame they don't make them like harry truman anymore.un yea wny way og written and rewritten. i think we have seen enough evidence already and the prediction is that a few decades from now, when enough years have passed and the historians are able to put this era into some meaningful context, my prediction is the chapter on the obama president will begin on 2010 in the state of delaware. >> christine o'donnell, virtually unknown a few weeks ago, but this morning officially the gop candidate for the senate seat vacated by the vice president. >> i think that will be the perfect place for history to start the story of what we're living through right now. not just the shutdown, not just the debt ceiling craziness, but the political stalemate that basically defined washington for the last few years and promises to do so all the way through to the end of barack obama's presidency at least. it is the perfect place to start the story of this period of political history. the perfect place is to -- excuse me, is that republican primary in delaware

neil, you're, of course, way too young, but some of us recall that sign that sat on harry truman's deskhe buck stops here." someone should call the truman library and get a facsimile of that particular little stand for the president's desk and indeed for a number of the cabinet officers' desks. >> well, you know, i think you have to brace americans who are getting surprised, pat buchanan, by these premium increases or getting dumped from their policies and being led to believe that they're part of bad apple plans or just a brush-up course in basic economics that you can't promise something for nothing and assume you're going to pay nothing or less. maybe some will in this program, but i think what all is said and done, a lot of americans are going to find that's not the case. isn't it the president's responsibility to say, you know, here's your wake-up call time. this is law, as you say, but now i can let you in on a dirty little secret, that you are going to pay through the nose. >> look, this is a debacle, the whole thing. not simply the website, but the very fact that he went out and

look, on obama care, this started in 1945 with truman wanted national health insurance. the democratic party took almost 70 years to get -- to put -- >> but democrats, not republicans. >> but to put it in place, for obama to get it there. it was stopped with clinton, we saw that. we finally get it there. he's not going to -- to think the democrats, after 70 years of fighting for this are going to give up, that's what's crazy about the republican straetagy. >> you're going to have to elbow your way in. >> six republicans are benefitting from the current unpleasantini unpleasantness. they live in trenton, new jersey, madison, wisconsin, indianapolis, indiana, and columbus, ohio. they're republican governors christie, jindal, perry, scott walker, mike pence, and john kasay. because they are going to, all of them, contemplate running for president, i suspect, and have one great argument on their side. i wasn't part of that. >> the guy living in lancing, michigan, rick snyder is thinking about it. >> let's talk about 2014. i thought that was crazy, not 2016. >> karl, there ha

look, on obama care, this started in 1945 with truman wanting national health insurance. democratic party -- >> i knew it was somebody else's fault. to put it in place, for obama to get it there and it was stopped with with clinton. we saw that. we finally get it there. he's not going to think the democrats after 70 years of fighting for this, are going to give up and smau negotiate it away, that's what's crazy about what -- >> this panel is a contact sport. elbow your way in. >> for ul the talking, six republicans who are benefitting from the current unpleasantness. clinton, new jersey, madison, wisconsin, indianapolis, indiana and columbus, r ohio, they are republican governors christie, jindal, perry, scott walker, mike pence and john casing because they are all going to contemplate running for president and have one great argument on their side. >> let me -- >> on this side, too. >> rick schneider was thinking about it and jeb bush. >> let's talk about 2014. >> carl, there has been some commentary that the president, you say destroyed the parties, but he wants to posi

so as harry truman, the buck will stop with me. >> gloria borger is here.the president is under a lot of pressure right now. >> yeah. >> apparently didn't know about angela america's cell phone if you believe this latest report. he didn't know there were significant problems before october 1st rollout of the obama care website but he has often said the buck stops with him. >> i think the buck does stop with him. i think there are two different things here. the website is one thing. and i was talking to senior administration official who sort of explained to me what we all know that many times the president is the last to know things because there's a huge funnel of things that come into the white house. the job of the white house chief of staff and senior advisors to decide just what gets to the president's deck and what does not get to his desk. a lot of things don't even get to the white house. when it came to the web site, the question is, what did kathleen sebelius know? what got to her desk? you might be surprised to know a lot of times when things go

the issue with health care has always in the same when clinton and harry truman tried to tackle it. you have access and cost. obamacare seems to be on half given all the interest in the sign-ups to be dealing effectively with an access question. more people will be covered. the long-term issue is exploding costs and there is a general view that obamacare has not tackled that. that is the next health care debate to come. >> when they try to get these -- the board to go after the cost and look at outcomes, they are called death panels, you cannot pay doctors under this bill for dealing with people because we spend 1/5 of our health care on the last two weeks of life. when you talk to republicans, it is like a hot button issue. how did health care like abortion and guns? it is individual mandate. called individual responsibility it might have worked better because in fact a big part of the resistance comes from young people who did not get insurance because they did not think they needed and they were writing the system in emergency rooms so they have to for co- -- $100 a month pay ins

something democrats have been trying to do since harry truman.t was never going to happen. >> let's figure why he made the mistake. it's smart to learn. i'm going to go back to chip on this question. you know, back in the '60 campaign nixon thought he could carry the south because all the business guys out there, business guys with some money in their pockets were all downtown atlanta that day. and he got the idea because they're applauding him, i'm going to carry georgia. i'm going to break this solid south. he didn't. he was misled by leading indicators. was cruz overwhelmed by all the applause meters at all those right wing events and town hall meetings thinking that echo chamber was the congress? it was the republican caucus, it was the world? is that what happened to him? >> maybe visions of '16 kind of blinded him. like how does he win before '14 and especially this with obama care. when you're trying to figure what was going to be a win, i think at that point they felt like getting it delayed for a year, defunding it. using that as a way t

this is the biggest gd deal since truman, if the president didn't know a couple days before how bad it was, what is he, hitler in the bunker? >> that is objectionable. >> almost as objectable as the hitler reference. >> he's like nixon. is that better? but if he's not getting a flow of information, it means that the leadership problem here starts at the top and goes all the way through people like sebelius. >> it's your legislation. >> fine, fine. we can jump up and down about this. met me get to my question. i want to ask you a question. obviously, this is bad. the president says it's bad. >> he offered no -- >> he gave a whole press conference about it yesterday. but here's what's interesting to me. you say it's abysmal. you have people screaming and yelling, and this thing, obama care, is more popular now than it was two weeks ago. more popular than it was before -- let's look at some of these numbers. the numbers are unbelievable. this thing is moving up in popularity, despite the shutdown, despite ted cruz, despite the glitchy rollout. how do you explain the fact that despite the

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still jerk you know and rumor truman and they all made an agreement at that time that all wars would be fought in third world countries and there'd be no direct objective the military could achieve in which to declare victory it's true every war in my lifetime has been in the third world country and there's been no objective that can be achieved to declare victory i'm tired of war i'm sick of going to war i'm sick of our spending larry we spend more on defense than the top twenty five. countries combined after twenty six and twenty five of them are our allies why do we need to spend all this money on defense lagnado and spending hard not to argue ijaz you're a supporter i guess of the occupy wall street movement yes it's into what happened to it i don't know i just went down there because i'm a supporter of the first amendment larry and the first amendment says you out you used to have the freedom to partition your government and protests you don't now now they passed a law they can arrest you for that i think i know we're going to go with this or did you make of the n.s.a. surveilla